Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Cerral]

I started a new game, and the father already gave me the quest and ..... everything worked this time. I don't know what fixed the problem, but it works.

 

Thank you all for helping me, you are great. ? ?

[bubba999]

Just gave this a try. Really nice! I do have a question... when does the party end? My girl has been doing other tasks and partygoers are still standing around her house...

[safado]

1 hour ago, bubba999 said:

Just gave this a try. Really nice! I do have a question... when does the party end? My girl has been doing other tasks and partygoers are still standing around her house...

 

I think the goal is to try 20 times or more complete the request from the guests.  You choose what to "satify" as requested or ignore, is role play.  Stuff for "father" or other tasks do not count.  The total guest satisfaction value only counts at the end for father "favors" at a fixed rate. 

Total satisfaction:

(sat) >= 20 gives 10 favor , 1 depravity, 1 Sub ;

(sat) >= 15 < 20 gives 5 favor , 1 depravity, 0 Sub ;

 (sat) >10 < 15 gives -5 favor , -1 depravity, 0 Sub

 (sat) <= 10 gives -10 favor , -1 depravity, -1 Sub

 

Originally it has a logic issue that the party do not account for time duration, so it never expires until successful tries count reached.  Ignoring request will not count for goal, but let you control depravity/submission values. Depravity/submission values generally are used for trigger threshold to more humiliating tasks, but not always.  

Do not know if it has changed. Do not think so.  Have not experienced the party again by chance, many more options now.  

 

 

 

Edited October 18, 2021 by safado

[lcewolf]

2 hours ago, safado said:

 

I think the goal is to try 20 times or more complete the request from the guests.  You choose what to "satify" as requested or ignore, is role play.  Stuff for "father" or other tasks do not count.  The total guest satisfaction value only counts at the end for father "favors" at a fixed rate. 

Total satisfaction:

(sat) >= 20 gives 10 favor , 1 depravity, 1 Sub ;

(sat) >= 15 < 20 gives 5 favor , 1 depravity, 0 Sub ;

 (sat) >10 < 15 gives -5 favor , -1 depravity, 0 Sub

 (sat) <= 10 gives -10 favor , -1 depravity, -1 Sub

 

Originally it has a logic issue that the party do not account for time duration, so it never expires until successful tries count reached.  Ignoring request will not count for goal, but let you control depravity/submission values. Depravity/submission values generally are used for trigger threshold to more humiliating tasks, but not always.  

Do not know if it has changed. Do not think so.  Have not experienced the party again by chance, many more options now.  

 

 

 

Perfect Answer. I wasn't aware we could end the party without 25.

[safado]

3 hours ago, lcewolf said:

Perfect Answer. I wasn't aware we could end the party without 25.

 

Because i have not done the party in a while, I try to track the code for the party.  It does not have a standard quest setup.  ?

Instead it runs scripts "fragments" in the dialogue chain.  Eventually it gets to the dialogue that has the script tracking completion, the guest line "Hm. Tell me, what can you offer?".   Every time that line is display it run a script that check the value of global property "pchsTaskParty" is 20 or higher.

 

At the start of serving guest the value of "pchsTaskParty" should be already 4 (getting the mead and returning give 4 completed request) and you need to add 16 or more.  Every dialogue line that is a request will add 1 to "pchsTaskParty" if completed with or without satisfactory resolution.  Some request like giving mead or snacks can be ignored and the party will never end.  Others has branching and can give negative satisfaction but still count as request completed.

 

Eventually when the goal (20+) is reached the next guest dialogue with the line "Hm. Tell me, what can you offer?" will end the task with a fade out. 

I did not saw a timestamp as part of the script, but one is part of the chance trigger to start the dialogue from father starting the Party task again, a cooldown timer.   

 

 

Edited October 19, 2021 by safado

[Iroha]

pchsWartimes timeoff fix.esp

small fix for timeoff dialogue condition, which can deny getting timeoff if PC already gone far in serving. (wartimes v 8.2)

 

[Whizkid]

the default Y key for the uiextension is there a condition for it to activate, i restarted a new game using the beta version and nothing happens when i press the Y key, tried changing it to another key and it still doesnt activate the uiextension dial, the g key for survival works, tried re-install couple of times but it just doesnt popup do i need to wait for the quest line to progress further before it will work as I am at the initial stage of go buy herbs for ma.

 

 

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Whizkid said:

do i need to wait for the quest line to progress further before it will work as I am at the initial stage of go buy herbs for ma

Yes. 

[Whizkid]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Yes. 

thanks hehe

[Monoman1]

So I've been back playing a little skyrim lately (haven't been for months). Some problems I'm coming up against:

1. SLSO failing to orgasm for some reason. Bar fills but he doesn't 'pop'. Used to happen the odd time. Now it seems like >=50% of scenes. Annoying. Orgasm conditions on/off doesn't seem to matter. Any ideas? Haven't updated SLSO lately. Should probably do that. 

2. Something new seems to be interfering with brutus. I've borrowed him but when I mount him he jumps back on his legs and tosses me off. "Your horse is frustrated". What mod is this? Appears to break SLS creature fondling too.

 

As for an update, I've just been doing some minor tweaking. QOL/consistency improvements. Nothing major. Motivation to mod + free time is low lately. But before I finish up here I would like to see:

 

1. Expansion of the supply run. Right now I'm thinking Belethor will eventually extort a blowjob from you. If you refuse he'll destroy your reputation and you'll instantly jump to 'slut reputation' around Whiterun making buying/selling basically worthless. Eventually after that Father will make you do the run without your mask thus destroying your reputation anyway. At which point Father will offer to sell things for you minus a little slice for him. Making him pretty much your sole merchant in Whiterun. Perhaps the supply run task should just end at this point. 

 

2. Some kind of forge set up. Maybe in the basement. New job to make horse shoes to sell or something maybe. 

 

3. Clean up the endings. Difficult one this since I've not actually made it as far as the end. 

 

4. Minor feature to gain bonus favour while watching Mother getting fucked. More stages watched = more favour. 

Edited October 22, 2021 by Monoman1

[Clea Strange]

9 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

So I've been back playing a little skyrim lately (haven't been for months). Some problems I'm coming up against:

1. SLSO failing to orgasm for some reason. Bar fills but he doesn't 'pop'. Used to happen the odd time. Now it seems like >=50% of scenes. Annoying. Orgasm conditions on/off doesn't seem to matter. Any ideas? Haven't updated SLSO lately. Should probably do that. 

2. Something new seems to be interfering with brutus. I've borrowed him but when I mount him he jumps back on his legs and tosses me off. "Your horse is frustrated". What mod is this? Appears to break SLS creature fondling too.

 

 

 

This is the problem I have been having to I think, not sure. i say that cause I always fail at pleasing father

[Monoman1]

13 minutes ago, Hiderius said:

 

This is the problem I have been having to I think, not sure. i say that cause I always fail at pleasing father

Yep. It's annoying for me but at least I know how to counter the outcome (reset favour + punishment). Must be almost mod breaking for you guys. It's funny. I've never seen much discussion on it over in the SLSO thread. Is it just some combination of mods or does base SLSO have the issue. It's hard to know. 

[divinefire]

It could be because the animations tags do not allow it. Most of my foreplay animations at the beginning would never orgasm hence I could not progress. I redid all my foreplay tags with slate and adjusted sextag.json to work. If they were not tagged with any job(foot,blow,boob,hand) then I would never advance. After progressing to blowjob/vaginal/anal with father everything worked. This was an older version of wartimes so maybe its not the problem now but I kept updating it with my slate tags because it helps other mods I have play out as well. I know sometimes begging in survival would pick an animation that was impossible to orgasm so I would always fail too.

[jperrins66]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

2. Something new seems to be interfering with brutus. I've borrowed him but when I mount him he jumps back on his legs and tosses me off. "Your horse is frustrated". What mod is this? Appears to break SLS creature fondling too.

 

I believe it's the player horse setting in Aroused creatures.

 

[Monoman1]

30 minutes ago, divinefire said:

It could be because the animations tags do not allow it. Most of my foreplay animations at the beginning would never orgasm hence I could not progress. I redid all my foreplay tags with slate and adjusted sextag.json to work. If they were not tagged with any job(foot,blow,boob,hand) then I would never advance. After progressing to blowjob/vaginal/anal with father everything worked. This was an older version of wartimes so maybe its not the problem now but I kept updating it with my slate tags because it helps other mods I have play out as well. I know sometimes begging in survival would pick an animation that was impossible to orgasm so I would always fail too.

Mmm. I'm not sure about that. I think disabling orgams conditions should circumvent that particular issue. I've no doubt that tags are an issue though. This seems like something different. I'll keep an eye on the tags though. 

[carolight]

Really nice mod, I especially like the outfit / fashion checks system as it forces you into the role, maybe an expansion of this so as others npc can check that you are maintaning your required outfit/fashion, word could get back to your father if you fail to adhere to his stipulations.

[ucglow]

On 10/22/2021 at 5:40 AM, Monoman1 said:

1. SLSO failing to orgasm for some reason. Bar fills but he doesn't 'pop'. Used to happen the odd time. Now it seems like >=50% of scenes. Annoying. Orgasm conditions on/off doesn't seem to matter. Any ideas? Haven't updated SLSO lately. Should probably do that. 

 

Also try Sexlab 1.63 Beta 9 + SLSO 1.7.3 + SexLab Utility Plus v20211020 + Sexlab Aroused modular 5.1 (found in its thread) for the 'pop' not working. I updated all of these mid playthrough, and it has improved the no 'pop'.

Edited October 23, 2021 by ucglow

[lcewolf]

6 hours ago, Hiderius said:

 

This is the problem I have been having to I think, not sure. i say that cause I always fail at pleasing father

Yeah i notice that too. With SLSO It's become quite difficult to make people orgasm and even more your character. For counter that new effect. I  change the personnaly of my pc to Submissive kind and avance stage manually. Skooma help but the "Orgasm bar" go really slow and sometime remain stuck until i advance stage.

 

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

1. Expansion of the supply run. Right now I'm thinking Belethor will eventually extort a blowjob from you. If you refuse he'll destroy your reputation and you'll instantly jump to 'slut reputation' around Whiterun making buying/selling basically worthless. Eventually after that Father will make you do the run without your mask thus destroying your reputation anyway. At which point Father will offer to sell things for you minus a little slice for him. Making him pretty much your sole merchant in Whiterun. Perhaps the supply run task should just end at this point. 

 

 It's good to know! I can wait to see that happen

 

If you turn father as pretty mush the sole merchant (Great idea btw), are you going to restrains food as well from the inn?

It's not really compatible with cum slut. But i don't know if you have projet like this with SLS?

 

For my part i use TES5EDIT and change the foodlist in SLS for only cum bottle when begging same for the drink.

 

Edited October 22, 2021 by lcewolf

[Whizkid]

stallion problem after getting quest and after talking to Skulvar, pchsTaskHorse will immediately be set to 4, auto completing the task without having to interact with the stallion, taskHorseCount > 0 and  taskHorseSexCount > 0, 

 

solution to allow the menu to popup and interact with the stallion is to set pchsTaskHorse to 2, this allow me to interact with the horse as the dialog menu will then popup allowing me to select the options available.

 

edit: same problem with the dogs, need to set pchstaskdogs to 2, as it will auto set it to 4 after getting the task from brumbar, what i did was interact with the gate then via console set pchstaskdogs to 2, then click on carpet inside the cage

Edited October 23, 2021 by Whizkid

[safado]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 

2. Something new seems to be interfering with brutus. I've borrowed him but when I mount him he jumps back on his legs and tosses me off. "Your horse is frustrated". What mod is this? Appears to break SLS creature fondling too.

 

 

Current Aroused Creatures have a creature Interaction/dialogue feature and a Player's Horse "May Refuse" feature base on arousal.  All configurable.  Maybe is that.

 

 

 

[Whizkid]

quest yps01 (pierced ears), quest is showing "I need to find a way to wear these earrings", but I had already visited solitude and had my ears pierced active spell effect "pierced ears active effect is showing up, question is how can I complete this quest do I have to wait or is there something missing, sqs yps01 shows the following,

 

Stage 0 1

Stage 10 0

Stage 60 1

Stage 110 0

Stage 120 0

Stage 130 0

Stage 140 0  <- this stage actually shows pierced as complete but manually setstage via console, but doesnt show up as pierced.

Stage 500 0 <- this will complete this quest if setstage manually via console

Stage 920 0

 

is this normal or is something wrong, how can i reset this or complete this quest.

 

[lcewolf]

1 hour ago, Whizkid said:

quest yps01 (pierced ears), quest is showing "I need to find a way to wear these earrings", but I had already visited solitude and had my ears pierced active spell effect "pierced ears active effect is showing up, question is how can I complete this quest do I have to wait or is there something missing, sqs yps01 shows the following,

 

Stage 0 1

Stage 10 0

Stage 60 1

Stage 110 0

Stage 120 0

Stage 130 0

Stage 140 0  <- this stage actually shows pierced as complete but manually setstage via console, but doesnt show up as pierced.

Stage 500 0 <- this will complete this quest if setstage manually via console

Stage 920 0

 

is this normal or is something wrong, how can i reset this or complete this quest.

 

Did you you speak with Bjorlam before use the carriage ?

 

Because after have some piercing you have to speak again with Bjorlam and return home.

It's suppose to complete the quest after that.

 

 

[eicosa]

Father keeps teleporting into me getting very angry that I bumped him. It would be fine if it happened rarely but it's started happening 4 times a day, sometimes 2 or 3 times in a row. Can we just disable the bumping?
It's a similar problem with physics objects too, he will throw them around the room randomly when he sits down, and if they hit the PC he gets mad. The idea of it sounds like roleplay but the reality is just glitchy, spammy and annoying

[Whizkid]

57 minutes ago, lcewolf said:

Did you you speak with Bjorlam before use the carriage ?

 

Because after have some piercing you have to speak again with Bjorlam and return home.

It's suppose to complete the quest after that.

 

 

yep, took the carriage and ported over to solitude, when into solitude to tris and had the piercing done but I remember there was a message pops up before the warning about clothes blocking the slots, i dont know what that error meant but i then proceeded to leave and talk to bjorlam again to port back to whiterun, thats when i noticed that the quest showing up as not completed.

 

question is can i setstage to 500 or how can i trigger it to complete, i tried going back to solitude to tris and the other girl but the option to remove the melded earrings is there but somehow the npc refused to unweld it and keeps saying i had to have it pierced...

 

 

[carolight]

For anyone having trouble pleasing father during the hand job, it would always fail...

For me, turned out to be a simple oversight, I had never ticked the enable orgasms/effects in sexlab. Now it works.