Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Fulanoo]

Is there a way to fix the staring contest without starting a new save?

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, Fulanoo said:

Is there a way to fix the staring contest without starting a new save?

I managed to clear Adrianne using some console commands. I don't remember exactly what I used but I started here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim_talk:Idolaf_Battle-Born

[Fulanoo]

On 5/6/2021 at 2:48 AM, Monoman1 said:

I managed to clear Adrianne using some console commands. I don't remember exactly what I used but I started here: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim_talk:Idolaf_Battle-Born

Thanks, gonna try that

[Monoman1]

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[Highborn]

Nice. I wasn't going to use the Amputator Framework on my end, so removing the hard requirement is great to free an .esp space. However, I'm going to wait for a more stable version.

 

 

[Monoman1]

10 hours ago, Highborn said:

Nice. I wasn't going to use the Amputator Framework on my end, so removing the hard requirement is great to free an .esp space. However, I'm going to wait for a more stable version.

Not having amp framework means you can't get mother back into the house (and into her cage). Which in turn means you need to keep paying 100 gold for her upkeep instead of 50 when she's back. 

Just a heads up. 

[Monoman1]

Posted 2.6 with a few bug fixes. 

[Monoman1]

19 minutes ago, tamai said:

 

With 2.5 and 2.6 I cant seem to relieve tension with father anymore, using SLSO not sure if its on my end but it worked with the older version

Seems to work ok for me in a quick test. Did you make him cum? Which sex act was it (blowjob etc)?

[Monoman1]

40 minutes ago, tamai said:

yea tested on a new save and still have the same issue

Just so we're on the same page I started a new game but I can't seem to find any issue. But it's occurred to me:

 

Is it the case that you're getting a notification "Father looks tense" in the beginning but you are not getting dialogue to 'ease his tension'? 

 

If so that notification is a bit of a false positive (bug). Until he approaches you and demands intimacy there's no obligation to have sex with him. The mod only starts progressing your lewdity after that initial approach. I think the new favor apology system should also begin/increase your lewd progression.

 

In the beginning you are only required to provide father with food and drink and clean the house. The initial approach for intimacy needs at least 20 Favour before starting. 

[Monoman1]

1 minute ago, tamai said:

Have to do some more testing to see if im just being stupid here x_x

Is 'use separate orgasms' on? Do you get a message "I failed to get father off (Favour -X) ?

[Monoman1]

Just now, tamai said:

plus i remember the dialogue option disapearing before "can i relieve some tension" so i thought thats what shoudl happen

Despite what the message says Father's arousal doesn't count - it's not based on arousal. It's actually just a timer. 

[Highborn]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Not having amp framework means you can't get mother back into the house (and into her cage). Which in turn means you need to keep paying 100 gold for her upkeep instead of 50 when she's back. 

Just a heads up. 

But what happens if I manage to get the whole money to cure her? The scenario where she comes back without being locked in the cage should work normally?

[Monoman1]

30 minutes ago, Highborn said:

But what happens if I manage to get the whole money to cure her? The scenario where she comes back without being locked in the cage should work normally?

Haven't touched the escape side of the mod all that much. If it worked before it should still work now. Too busy adding slavery content and hooks to try and make you stay to look at escapes 

[lcewolf]

10 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Haven't touched the escape side of the mod all that much. If it worked before it should still work now. Too busy adding slavery content and hooks to try and make you stay to look at escapes 

Thank you for all that.  When our father will ask us to remain naked, do you plan to confiscate any related liscense?

 

I like the new dog in the house. Once you have made some content about him i hope it will be related to the quest with the bound. I always hope that the orignal maker will block the first option at some point.  Like with Brunbar with his dog at some point he is not interresting with someone who walk out the dog. He need a remplacement bitch.

[Tenri]

59 minutes ago, tamai said:

Also I get in the dwemner milking machine and it does nothing it just keeps saying my resistance is decreased, but the milk machines in town work

That milking machine is from the ZaZ framework, when you install MME there should be an option to make ZaZ milkers work like MME milkers you will need that.

[Pris Manny]

I need some light..

When the dialog with tthe soldier in watchtower bring to sex act, the anim just dont happen, and the favour count normally. Am I did something wrong?

Also when I get to the party quest, the game cracks after I get the supplies at the Honningbrew Meadery. It cracks too, if I start the quest talking dad, asking for a way to get mom back.

 

Any suggestion that can I try to fix that? Am I forgeting something?

 

TKS ❤️ 
I Love the mod!

[JB.]

On 5/7/2021 at 4:21 PM, Monoman1 said:

Stage 1: Eyeshadow & lipstick,

Hey Monoman, where can I buy those? I have visited every possible store in Whiterun.

 

Ouch, now I see on the YPS page that there is a vendor on Solitude ... ?

 

 

A small report on my new game: 

 

Father has given me the money to buy those makeup. Since he was hungry, I talked to give him the food before going out to shop. But from each dialogue I had 7 points subtracted for not having the lipstick that he had just requested (Father? Do you want something to eat? Father? About your food. Here's your food). In seconds I finished with -57 points lol.

[Monoman1]

32 minutes ago, JBpy said:

Ouch, now I see on the YPS page that there is a vendor on Solitude .

There's a vendor upstairs in Arcadias. I wouldn't expect you to go to solitude every day for lipstick. That would be madness. Though the one in solitude is the only one that'll do piercings for you for some reason. 

 

35 minutes ago, JBpy said:

Father has given me the money to buy those makeup. Since he was hungry, I talked to give him the food before going out to shop. But from each dialogue I had 7 points subtracted for not having the lipstick that he had just requested (Father? Do you want something to eat? Father? About your food. Here's your food). In seconds I finished with -57 points lol.

Yes. I've now capped favour loss max to -5/-10. He's dead serious about that lipstick

 

But the whole massive favour loss is to place much more importance on the apology/ punishment mechanic. I've no idea if its balanced as I haven't truly played it yet but the idea is that punishments will push your 'lewd boundaries' out more/faster so that you can recover that favour. I pulled 80% recovery out of my ass. I'm sure it'll be a slider in the end so you can set it to whatever you want. 

[tholos]

Hello, I wanted to try this mod but I'm getting some troubles if anyone knows what can cause that I'd be grateful !

I'll give all information I can to help you out

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To start:

- LE Edition and all Vanilla DLCs

- I have all download requirements (ZaZ 8.0+, Alternate Start (+Death Alt), Amputator Framework 0.7, SDenhanced+ (SDPlus20210131 + SDResources20201225), Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.3 (not last which is 6.3.10, will DL soon/later), Display Model v206, SD Cages 361 (last is 381), Devious Devices 5.1, SkyUI 5.1, Beeing Females 

- I disabled many plugins to see if there is conflicts (for instance Laura's Bondage Shop, I don't know if there is compatibility issues but seeing that house cell close to the pchsHouse, I wondered)

- I have the latest version of Wartimes (20200920) installed from the Download section (I saw Monoman1 has made a Tweak version, not installed yet as the base mod seems to not working correctly)

- I made 5 same attempts in order to get the same route in a new game

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Judging by the flow chart provided, it seems something is not working well or at least I am doing something wrong or not playing correctly the enslavement part from Sanguine Debauchery.

Once I give back the golds to my Father where I learn Mother is no longer there, I pass out, end up in the cellar with Father looking at me in the dark.

After the conversation ends, I get a collar and SD's quest "Enslaved" begins.

At this moment, Father just instantly disappears/teleports and go back to the living room where all furnitures are replaced by ZaZ ones.

At this point, I can only do two things:

-1: Talk to Father engaging with the "Father ?" line: From there, I can say to whip me (well this is odd, my character get stuck, animations of whipping visually not showing (this might be an issue with SD call I guess ?) but after the whipping ends (which I don't see) I get all the whips marks all over my body and can move again.

I can ask to punish me by adding devices: I always get "[SD] equipdeviceby STRING failed: Clamps" and trying to add something I don't remember right now in the _sdxx_ queue punishment.

I can engage sex, relieve devices and the last one tell "What will happen to me ?".

No matter what I choose, I don't think this progress to the next stage of the quest. Not 100% sure, maybe 95% but the sqs [quest] doesn't change. I guess I should have some changes in values right ? I can see pchsFatherRep in the flow but I don't see any. 

What should I normally have at this point ? I can use pose from Wartimes's MCM like Cooking Pot or hands behind back but I think it doesn't change a thing expect visually.

 

-2: Talk to Mother engaging with "Mama ?" line: First time speaking I can ask what happened to her arms (she's correctly amputated and always in the house once enslaved and leave the cellar which is empty) and after that I can just tell you what will happen to us and tell her Father do "things" with me.

 

Annnd that's it. I don't know what should be the correct behaviour, what went wrong, any help is appreciated ! I can move out of the house, the collar vibrates but Father still stays in the house.

 

One more thing: I'm not experienced with SD enslavement so when I'm trying the mod I just pass time to the following next day where my score is in negative until 3-4 days where my "Owner" (that's what Father is called) get enough and get rid of me. (Go to auction)

Should I do something to trigger or move on to the next stage ? 

 

Thanks for reading, I'll be glad to get some helps and even if you don't have the answer, I'd like you to tell me what am I supposed to get once I leave the cellar after enslavement. (Father teleports out ? SD+ slave starting ? Mom always in the house ?)

 

 

[matt66]

So am I right that you are to use the SLS function "collet cum" to fill the empty cumtainer ? because when I do it still leaves the empty one and when i try to give one I've filled it does not show up in the pop up screen for father and he just gets pissed.

[Monoman1]

21 minutes ago, matt66 said:

So am I right that you are to use the SLS function "collet cum" to fill the empty cumtainer ? because when I do it still leaves the empty one and when i try to give one I've filled it does not show up in the pop up screen for father and he just gets pissed.

Ah crap. Your cum potions are all missing a keyword I only added in my Dev version so far. I'm still in the middle of working on it so I can't post an update.

 

How good are you with TesEdit? 

If you add keyword with FormID 1179C5 named '_SLS_CumPotion' to SL Survival,esp. And then attach that keyword to all the full cum potions (not the empty one or the spent one). Then it should start working for you. 

[matt66]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

 

How good are you with TesEdit? 

 

 

Well I guess I'll find out in the next few hours lol, Thanks for the reply

 

Update : well did that but still did not work for me, but maybe I did something wrong

[Vuzzar]

2 hours ago, matt66 said:

when i try to give one I've filled it does not show up in the pop up screen for father and he just gets pissed.

 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

If you add keyword with FormID 1179C5 named '_SLS_CumPotion' to SL Survival,esp. And then attach that keyword to all the full cum potions (not the empty one or the spent one). Then it should start working for you.

 

I had the same problem and looking through the scripts to find out why it doesn't detect cumtainers I found that it is indeed looking for a keyword that doesn't exist in the latest version of SexLab Survival. Creating the _SLS_CumPotion keyword with FormID xx1179C5 and adding it to every cum potion did make the cumtainers appear in the gift menu. However, Giving father what was requested always end up with him being disappointed for some reason. Setting the variable pchsMetCumQuota to the same value of pchsRequiredCumQuota before giving him the cum seems to fix this.

 

Here are some other bugs I have found as well:

• After completing Brumbar's task for the first time and going back to do it again, The pop-up to choose in what way you want to accomplish the task (take them on a walk or be the hounds bitch) won't appear when interacting with the door until the 2nd option (be their bitch) is unlocked.
• In the western watchtower task, giving Gerald a blowjob after having offered him vaginal sex at least once will make the task not go on cooldown and will never be available again. Setting the variable pchsTaskSoldiers to -1 after the deed is done will make it go on cooldown.
• Sometimes, I get the "I am disappointed. Why are you not complying with my request?" forcegreet even when complying with the request. For example, He will say he is disappointed the player is not wearing heels even though she is wearing heels.
• Father will never forcegreet the player to ask her to serve him naked from now after she helped him relieve some tension using her cunnie. This is because the variable pchsPCGaveVaginal is not set to 1 after having vaginal sex with father. Setting the variable to 1 manually through console will make the forcegreet available.
• Since version 2.5 and 2.6, it is possible to have to relieve father's tension before he first forcegreet the player to ask her to. This is because now the party task gives depravity points and for the "Girl, your Mother is gone so long already, I am getting a bit...*tense*." forcegreet to happen, depravity must be equal to 0 and Favor must be equal or greater than 20. If the party task is completed before the player has at least 20 favor and father forcegreet, it will never happen and player will have to relieve father's tension without knowing she has to (well the notification and dialogue will appear, but it's not immersive).
• Sometimes the player's idle is changed during dialogue and is not then reset which makes the player unable to move until idle is reset (can be done manually by using the mod's "carry meal pot" or "carry drink tray" hotkey twice). This happens during the forcegreet while player is giving birth when agreeing to become father's slave wife and when asking for forgiveness.
• Not a bug, but a pop-up debug message appears everytime sex is triggered for NPCs in the house. I think there is also one that appears when the timer to ask for forgiveness expires.

 

Some comments and ideas:

• The SexLabNoStrip keyword should be added to YPS stockings.
• Player can ask father for license from his friend at the kennel, but if she has never been to the kennel or father never talked about him, how can she know he has a friend at the kennel? A new task could be added involving the kennel which could then unlock asking for licenses.
• During the third fashion forcegreet, father could acknowledge the player's body hair. If father has seen player naked and shaved, instead of saying "Up to now you just been letting that little bush of yours grow wild. That's going to change. From now on you'll keep it tidy, you hear me?" he could say something like "I see you've been taking care of yourself down there. This is good. Keep it that way." This forcegreet could also only happen if player had sex with father or has been seen naked in some other way.
• As it is right now during the dog task when going in and submit, the same thing will always happen. The first two dogs will mount the player (implied vaginal) and then the last one will go for the butthole (implied anal). Maybe after the first time, the player could actually choose how she wants to please the dogs. Animations should also be correctly filtered for the appropriate act (it is not the case right now, same thing for the horse task).
• The dialogue tree appears during some forcegreet when it should not. For example, when father forcegreet to say he is disappointed because the player has not been complying with his request, the player can appologise before the second half of the dialogue where father says the reason he is disappointed in the first place. Player should only be able to reply after.

[Tenri]

11 hours ago, tholos said:

Hello, I wanted to try this mod but I'm getting some troubles if anyone knows what can cause that I'd be grateful !

I'll give all information I can to help you out

________________________

To start:

- LE Edition and all Vanilla DLCs

- I have all download requirements (ZaZ 8.0+, Alternate Start (+Death Alt), Amputator Framework 0.7, SDenhanced+ (SDPlus20210131 + SDResources20201225), Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.3 (not last which is 6.3.10, will DL soon/later), Display Model v206, SD Cages 361 (last is 381), Devious Devices 5.1, SkyUI 5.1, Beeing Females 

- I disabled many plugins to see if there is conflicts (for instance Laura's Bondage Shop, I don't know if there is compatibility issues but seeing that house cell close to the pchsHouse, I wondered)

- I have the latest version of Wartimes (20200920) installed from the Download section (I saw Monoman1 has made a Tweak version, not installed yet as the base mod seems to not working correctly)

- I made 5 same attempts in order to get the same route in a new game

________________________

 

Judging by the flow chart provided, it seems something is not working well or at least I am doing something wrong or not playing correctly the enslavement part from Sanguine Debauchery.

Once I give back the golds to my Father where I learn Mother is no longer there, I pass out, end up in the cellar with Father looking at me in the dark.

After the conversation ends, I get a collar and SD's quest "Enslaved" begins.

At this moment, Father just instantly disappears/teleports and go back to the living room where all furnitures are replaced by ZaZ ones.

At this point, I can only do two things:

-1: Talk to Father engaging with the "Father ?" line: From there, I can say to whip me (well this is odd, my character get stuck, animations of whipping visually not showing (this might be an issue with SD call I guess ?) but after the whipping ends (which I don't see) I get all the whips marks all over my body and can move again.

I can ask to punish me by adding devices: I always get "[SD] equipdeviceby STRING failed: Clamps" and trying to add something I don't remember right now in the _sdxx_ queue punishment.

I can engage sex, relieve devices and the last one tell "What will happen to me ?".

No matter what I choose, I don't think this progress to the next stage of the quest. Not 100% sure, maybe 95% but the sqs [quest] doesn't change. I guess I should have some changes in values right ? I can see pchsFatherRep in the flow but I don't see any. 

What should I normally have at this point ? I can use pose from Wartimes's MCM like Cooking Pot or hands behind back but I think it doesn't change a thing expect visually.

 

-2: Talk to Mother engaging with "Mama ?" line: First time speaking I can ask what happened to her arms (she's correctly amputated and always in the house once enslaved and leave the cellar which is empty) and after that I can just tell you what will happen to us and tell her Father do "things" with me.

 

Annnd that's it. I don't know what should be the correct behaviour, what went wrong, any help is appreciated ! I can move out of the house, the collar vibrates but Father still stays in the house.

 

One more thing: I'm not experienced with SD enslavement so when I'm trying the mod I just pass time to the following next day where my score is in negative until 3-4 days where my "Owner" (that's what Father is called) get enough and get rid of me. (Go to auction)

Should I do something to trigger or move on to the next stage ? 

 

Thanks for reading, I'll be glad to get some helps and even if you don't have the answer, I'd like you to tell me what am I supposed to get once I leave the cellar after enslavement. (Father teleports out ? SD+ slave starting ? Mom always in the house ?)

 

 

That all seems to be working the SD functions for whipping and adding devices aren't working but the Wartimes functions themselves seem to be, you reached the forced slavery ending for the mod.

On the flowchart that would be one of the red endings off of Get stage = 190.

At this point in the mod is should work like normal SD+ enslavement to Father.

There are the few dialogue options added by wartimes but other than attempting to trigger SD+ events they don't do anything.

 

If you want to get the bulk of the mod you have to be a good girl during the opening quests.

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Antaufein said:

Here are some other bugs I have found as well:

Great feedback

 

Buuut the thing is. I literally just put a fork in v2.9. It has a lot of tweaks, improvements and fixes. So much so that it's just one line of the changelog - I didn't really keep track of everything. After updating if you can keep an eye out for the same bugs and post again if they still happening (Just copy and paste). I would have already posted 2.9 but I need to bring SLS beta up with that missing keyword. Spinning plates job.... 

 

I'll keep an eye out for these things myself. I'm pushing to get back to playing the game. Agreed on the NoStrip for stockings. 

 

@Anyone interested. 

I'm still interested in seeing if we can do the same for bra's/panties as is done for stockings in YPS tweak 1.5 - Underwear applied as race menu overlays. If anyone is interested in trying to make textures for this, get in touch. 

 

Because the textures are basically painted onto the skin - I reckon panties would be the easier. Bras often have straps or whatnot that are sometimes not flat against the skin.