Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

26 minutes ago, kapibar said:

 Well, shit. It doesn't work for me. I only have info about resistance decrease and that's it.

That message is SLS bondage furniture effects. Unrelated to MME. 

 

Check your load order for conflicts on the MME patch. 

[kapibar]

50 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

That message is SLS bondage furniture effects. Unrelated to MME. 

 

Check your load order for conflicts on the MME patch. 

I have MME fairly high, above everything that could potentially overwrite it. I assume this potion has to be checked during installation.

[Monoman1]

Check record xx026D2E in Zaz. It should look like this: 

 

Spoiler

 

If the script is not attached with the winning override (right most column) then the script will not be attached in game. 

 

Note that 'Milk Mod Economy Addons Merged.esp" is my own esp of merged addons for MME. 

[kapibar]

1 minute ago, Monoman1 said:

Check record xx026D2E in Zaz. It should look like this: 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

If the script is not attached with the winning override (right most column) then the script will not be attached in game. 

 

Note that 'Milk Mod Economy Addons Merged.esp" is my own esp of merged addons for MME. 

I' ll do a double check to be sure and get back to you with an update. Thanks!

[Ruffled Pigeon]

8 hours ago, Silvain said:

 

I don't think Ashal is the right person to bother with this. If you have the same person post on the Nexus page of PapUtil (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13048?tab=description). I already filed a bug report concerning this, but somebody else confirming the same bug is always helpful in getting more attention. So could you make a short post there describing your issue/confirming the bug?

Ashal is the maintainer of PapyrusUtil actually ?

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 OK, I know what was wrong. The issue was that MME adds additional patch for ZAZ, which I didn't notice. This patch was in the wrong place in the load order. Thanks for your help.

[Silvain]

14 hours ago, Ruffled Pigeon said:

Ashal is the maintainer of PapyrusUtil actually ?

 

Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for clearing that up. ^^

[Ruffled Pigeon]

I have made a hacky fix for the Special Edition Nylons problem.

I have hardcoded the Index lookup, not ideal but it works and it's better than nothing for now.

 

This is for Skyrim Special Edition only!

Simply overwrite Monomans YPS Tweak with this

Monoman YPS Tweak v1.6 SE-Patch.zip

 

I've probably made a mistake or two in there, so if you get the wrong or no Overlay tell me the item ?

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 you seem to know your stuff (d'uh), so if you don't mind I'll poke your brain about something. Actually, you're partially to blame for the situation and it is somewhat relevant to the topic, so... Here's the problem: I use Beeing Female for pregnancy management. Everything was fine and dandy until I installed MME (this is where you come in - I did it to fully appreciate your work ). It would seem that MME notification resets BF body changes (pregnancy belly). I disengaged all MME functions related to changing the body size, but it would be nice to get notifications from the mod. Unfortunately they too do the resetting, so I'm in a pickle. Do you know this problem or could provide a solution?

[lcewolf]

On 5/16/2021 at 3:42 AM, Monoman1 said:

I suppose you can set impossible conditions on topic xx20A960

Like Player GetItemCount Gold001 < 0

Well if you want to speed things up a bit you can

Set pchsFatherForceGreetGlobal to 1

to fire a FG. But the outcome is random and based on conditions still. "I need to check up on you" always has a chance to play instead of other FGs so you might have to do it multiple times. 

I was unable to use the command for deactivate the license giving by father( clothing,armor and bikini armor.) ( Player GetItemCount Gold001 0)

 

But since you unlock the number of favor require in MCM menu it did the trick. Thank you.

Maybe eventually we will be able to pick in the mcm menu the ''license'' gived by father?

 

I have to report a probably a missing part. When the PC is on Diet, For 50 gold my father give at my pc food/drink. Do you plan to change the food by Cum eventually?

 

There also when our father ask us to serve the dog, it's dosen't take count if our mother is back or not.

[AoE_Freak]

In one of the patch notes, it says "If Devious devices is installed..." I thought devious devices was a requirement for this mod, since Sanguine Debauchery requires it and that is listed as a hard requirement for Wartimes. Am I wrong? I don't care much for devious devices, so if I can play this without that installed, I'd prefer that. I tried just deactivating DD and running it like that, but that just made the game crash on startup.

 

One other question: do you need to have Bathing in Skyrim installed in order to get the cum quest? I still haven't gotten it despite swallowing father's cum multiple times, and I wasn't sure whether it was due to not having BiS or just some side effect of me updating the mod without making a new game.

 

This mod is awesome! 

 

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, AoE_Freak said:

In one of the patch notes, it says "If Devious devices is installed..." I thought devious devices was a requirement for this mod, since Sanguine Debauchery requires it and that is listed as a hard requirement for Wartimes. Am I wrong? I don't care much for devious devices, so if I can play this without that installed, I'd prefer that. I tried just deactivating DD and running it like that, but that just made the game crash on startup.

DD's not a hard requirement so I doubt the crash is this mod. 

Zaz is the only non-vanilla requirement at this point.

2 hours ago, AoE_Freak said:

One other question: do you need to have Bathing in Skyrim installed in order to get the cum quest? I still haven't gotten it despite swallowing father's cum multiple times, and I wasn't sure whether it was due to not having BiS or just some side effect of me updating the mod without making a new game.

Only requirement is that you swallowed his cum. Apology sex doesn't count currently. Fixed next version. 

 

5 hours ago, lcewolf said:

Maybe eventually we will be able to pick in the mcm menu the ''license'' gived by father?

I won't be going crazy adding options. You'll have to make do with setting favour required to 100.

5 hours ago, lcewolf said:

I have to report a probably a missing part. When the PC is on Diet, For 50 gold my father give at my pc food/drink. Do you plan to change the food by Cum eventually?

It does currently. But you need to be forbidden from bathing. Fixed next version

5 hours ago, lcewolf said:

There also when our father ask us to serve the dog, it's dosen't take count if our mother is back or not.

You mean the dialogue mentioning her? It's a minor issue tbh. But it still makes sense that your mother would be in charge. She doesn't have to be present in the room. 

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 I don't know if it's a problem of my setup or a bug, but after becoming slave wife the milking machine disappears, but the father still demands a quota of milk. Don't know if this is intended or not.

 

Btw.: Are you planning on expanding marriage slavery? Some kind of ceremony maybe, additional tasks...?

[tamai]

4 hours ago, kapibar said:

@Monoman1 I don't know if it's a problem of my setup or a bug, but after becoming slave wife the milking machine disappears, but the father still demands a quota of milk. Don't know if this is intended or not.

 

Btw.: Are you planning on expanding marriage slavery? Some kind of ceremony maybe, additional tasks...?

 

can confirm it disappeared at one point for me too.

[Silvain]

On 5/17/2021 at 4:58 PM, Ruffled Pigeon said:

I have made a hacky fix for the Special Edition Nylons problem.

I have hardcoded the Index lookup, not ideal but it works and it's better than nothing for now.

 

This is for Skyrim Special Edition only!

Simply overwrite Monomans YPS Tweak with this

Monoman YPS Tweak v1.6 SE-Patch.zip 112.06 kB · 5 downloads

 

I've probably made a mistake or two in there, so if you get the wrong or no Overlay tell me the item ?

 

Played around with it for a bit and it works flawlessly so far. Thank you for doing this.

[lcewolf]

On 5/12/2021 at 6:00 AM, Monoman1 said:

 

v3.1

- Fix for naked reputation scan not stopping when failing supply run.

- Supply run will lock your end table. 

 

 

 

 

Are we suppose to made the supply run naked?

 

Never see that it could be indeed interresting.

 

The only thing i found out of the context it's our home outside door's is locked when do the quest. I just teleport father for complete it then he unlock the door.

[AoE_Freak]

On 5/18/2021 at 2:40 AM, Monoman1 said:

DD's not a hard requirement so I doubt the crash is this mod. 

Zaz is the only non-vanilla requirement at this point.

 

On 5/18/2021 at 2:40 AM, Monoman1 said:

Only requirement is that you swallowed his cum. Apology sex doesn't count currently. Fixed next version. 

Thanks for the helpful answers! I love all the work you've done making this mod better.

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, lcewolf said:

Are we suppose to made the supply run naked

Shouldn't have much choice as all your clothes should be gone. Your only choice should be to wear a hood or not wear a hood. I recommend wearing a hood. 

3 hours ago, lcewolf said:

The only thing i found out of the context it's our home outside door's is locked when do the quest. I just teleport father for complete it then he unlock the door

You're supposed to use the door on return. 

[Monoman1]

19 hours ago, tamai said:

 

can confirm it disappeared at one point for me too.

 

On 5/19/2021 at 7:47 AM, kapibar said:

@Monoman1 I don't know if it's a problem of my setup or a bug, but after becoming slave wife the milking machine disappears, but the father still demands a quota of milk. Don't know if this is intended or not.

 

Btw.: Are you planning on expanding marriage slavery? Some kind of ceremony maybe, additional tasks...?

You'll have to get the id of the machine and enable it again. Not sure if you should continue to have access to free lactacid forever though. 

 

As for expanding... the great thing about this mod is the possibility of the scope it could have. There's a million ways things could be expanded. As for it actually happening, it depends on time and interest. Pchs is also interested in adding a new scenario so I can't hold him up forever. 

[kapibar]

1 minute ago, Monoman1 said:

As for expanding... the great thing about this mod is the possibility of the scope it could have. There's a million ways things could be expanded. As for it actually happening, it depends on time and interest. Pchs is also interested in adding a new scenario so I can't hold him up forever. 

This mod is actually one of the most intresting projects in recent years and the way pchs expanded on its original concept is amazing. However you managed to not only expand the expansion, but go even further in its development. At this moment this is the most underappreciated project on LL and I believe it doesn't get the love it deserves. It would be great if the "marriage slavery" was developed, because at this moment the story hits a dead end after the birth. Playing role play style the PC is completely and utterly at her father's mercy, has no way to go and knows nothing except sex and abuse. I don't see any possible scenario in which a person that was corrupted into beeing a voluntary sex slave could just leave her abuser and child behind and go do some adventuring quests. I actually managed to break the loop via Deviously Enslaved which forced my character into leaving home (Simple Slavery).

Anyway, these are just my thoughts on the subject. As much as I love what you and pchs have done, I believe there's a lot of room for development and I can't wait to see where will you go with this mod.

[lcewolf]

12 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Shouldn't have much choice as all your clothes should be gone. Your only choice should be to wear a hood or not wear a hood. I recommend wearing a hood. 

You're supposed to use the door on return. 

I am going to try with a new fresh game because i didn't get strip or anything. Do you have a patreon or something Similar @Monoman1?

 

 

[thranoshue]

Any chance of this have an update? I really want end the story 

[lcewolf]

4 hours ago, lcewolf said:

I am going to try with a new fresh game because i didn't get strip or anything. Do you have a patreon or something Similar @Monoman1?

 

 

lol interresting thank you with a fresh start it's working

[Highborn]

1 hour ago, thranoshue said:

Any chance of this have an update? I really want end the story 

I mean, the objective of the mod is to roleplay as a slave until you decide to run away and start your adventures. I don't think the story is supposed to have an ending after you become a slave. The only stuff to add is more tasks to do I guess.

[lcewolf]

6 hours ago, thranoshue said:

Any chance of this have an update? I really want end the story 

5 hours ago, Highborn said:

I mean, the objective of the mod is to roleplay as a slave until you decide to run away and start your adventures. I don't think the story is supposed to have an ending after you become a slave. The only stuff to add is more tasks to do I guess.

It's mostly an unending blackmail.

 

Our father must always have leverage to keep the PC under control. It is blackmail. The PC love her mother and he use that again her.

He enjoy showing he's in control of the situation.

 

There is something missing to make that thing credible. What would make the PC do such unnatural things?

Why not do the basic things and harvest the amount more slowly?

Because actually its possible.

 

This pressure effect is missing from the main quest. YPS-immersive remove some of our gold but not enough.

What would make our PC freak out to say I absolutely must have more money faster!

Probably just raising the amount required per day could have caused this effect.

If it takes 2 days, collect the amount for one mother's day care should be suffisant.

 

The amount to be collected on the other hand to bring mother back actually is too easy to have $ 2000 is really too low.

After less than 2 weeks I can bring mother back. Why father will accept to return at her former life.

Why and how could our father let our PC go and come back to his former life?

He will never be able to be satisfied with what he had before. Each of his sentences reminds

us when he compare the PC with her mother. He don't want her back at all. He poison her own wife

to get rid of her. He desire something else.

 

I would find it more logical if the amount of $ 2000 would make our mother come

home and have her arms and legs amputated. The PC will be forced to collect another larger amount for restoring her mother.

 

Subsequently another complication which would force the PC to have to accept the father's request to become a mother.

Our father, he wants to have his own children. Why put so mush effort to break the mind of her daughter to let her go?

He is happy the way the PC serve him. He want her to be her Slave-wife.

 

The way our father sees it, he likes to have a control effect on the PC. He has pushed the limits of the

PC ever further towards the perversion he desires.  He has used this tactic before to make her docile

and make her do unimaginable out of love for her mother. What wouldn't she do out of love for her own child?

 

The psychological effect of mod on such taboo subjects made it one of a kind.

 

PCHS had not fully finished the main plot but I am sure he would ad liked what Monoman1 did with is mod.