Submissive Lola: The resubmission

[Gräfin Zeppelin]

Awesome, thank you.

[donttouchmethere]

5 hours ago, shiagwen said:

If no answer comes i have no choice but deinstall the mod .

Hey, that would solve your whipping scene issues ?

 

Okay, just_Gina is way more helpful than me. I wasn't even sure what you are asking for.

[just_Gina]

@shiagwen  If no answer comes i have no choice but deinstall the mod .

 

i assume you're referring to the tell people you're a slave quest. i believe that it picks NPCs at random. Couriers don't have regular NPC dialog. Best off going back to earlier save, 

Move out of the exterior cell so the courier isn't an eligible NPC and continue from there. 

 

Had a similar problem and that is how i solved it.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

@shiagwen @just_Gina

I have the same problem sometimes, once with courier, more times with NPC from Troubles of Heroine. Basically any NPC with blocking dialogue you can't get rid of will give this issue. I mentioned it to Troubles of Heroine developer @DSHV but I am not sure there is an easy solution. He said quote "If only somehow remove mod's NPCs from the pool of possible NPCs, who start conversations (with special faction or something)." 

 

@HexBolt8

Not sure if this is something that could be implemented in Submissive Lola or not? Is there any special faction used for courier so that he can normally be excluded? Can we implement the same solution for NPC from Troubles of Heroine?

 

You can use stopquest to clear it if you need to because of this issue though.

 

Example: 

- Confessions quest in console type "stopquest vkjConfessions" or for the "I am famous" quest type "stopquest vkjNewBuddy".

[Hex Bolt]

16 minutes ago, RMCW said:

Not sure if this is something that could be implemented in Submissive Lola or not? Is there any special faction used for courier so that he can normally be excluded?

There's no faction or keyword for couriers.  There are actually 5 Courier NPCs in Skyrim.  I had already excluded the mostly commonly used one by ID in my development version, but that's not available yet. 

 

There are several NPCs that can refuse to interact with you.  In my testing of Confessions, I had trouble with Gulum-Ei in the Winking Skeever.  The recommended solution for Confessions is to do both confessions with the other NPC, since it's very unlikely that both NPCs won't talk to you.  As encouragement to only do that when needed, you receive a larger score reward if you confess to both NPCs rather than just one, but at least you have the option to complete the quest.  There is no workaround for I Am Famous other than stopping the quest.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

4 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

There's no faction or keyword for couriers.  There are actually 5 Courier NPCs in Skyrim.  I had already excluded the mostly commonly used one by ID in my development version, but that's not available yet. 

Nice one great stuff.

 

5 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

The recommended solution for Confessions is to do both confessions with the other NPC, since it's very unlikely that both NPCs won't talk to you.

Ah didn't know you could do that thanks.

 

Regarding Troubles of Heroine:

If DSHV adds a special faction to his NPCs, could you exclude them from these quests? Currently using that mod but it has a lot of dialogue blocking NPC I ended up switching off.

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, RMCW said:

If DSHV adds a special faction to his NPCs, could you exclude them from these quests? Currently using that mod but it has a lot of dialogue blocking NPC I ended up switching off.

I don't know if I can do that as a soft dependency.  I'd prefer to handle problems like that generically by giving you another NPC to talk to.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

17 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

I don't know if I can do that as a soft dependency.  I'd prefer to handle problems like that generically by giving you another NPC to talk to.

Right OK you will know best. Have to say Skyrim development is a nightmare! Makes me really appreciate all the hard work the community have put into these mods. Simple programming concepts seem to go out of the window in this development environment.

 

I have a couple of ideas for solutions to the problem you may like:

A) vkjNewBuddy to have a chat option on owner to say something along the lines of "I can't find the person you want me to talk to" where you will get a new NPC.

B) Instead of just 1 NPC target, give 3 where you can choose any of the 3.

[Hex Bolt]

3 minutes ago, RMCW said:

I have a couple of ideas for solutions to the problem you may like:

A) vkjNewBuddy to have a chat option on owner to say something along the lines of "I can't find the person you want me to talk to" where you will get a new NPC.

B) Instead of just 1 NPC target, give 3 where you can choose any of the 3.

That's exactly what I had in mind.  The first option is nicer but I'd have to think about the best implementation.  There are other things I was hoping to work on as well, though it's a busy weekend so there might not be much time for a couple of days. 

[Diziet]

uhm, i am a bit thick sometimes... if i get this right, if i want to give this mod a shot, i should disable sexlab survival and devious followers, correct?

 

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

10 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

That's exactly what I had in mind.  The first option is nicer but I'd have to think about the best implementation.  There are other things I was hoping to work on as well, though it's a busy weekend so there might not be much time for a couple of days. 

Your a legend, no rush.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

14 minutes ago, Diziet said:

uhm, i am a bit thick sometimes... if i get this right, if i want to give this mod a shot, i should disable sexlab survival and devious followers, correct?

 

If your on SE there is a patch. If LE you can patch yourself with instructions provided by Herowynne in this thread.

 

The mod works without, its just the force greet that doesn't work properly.

 

Edit:

Reposting links from Herowynne:  

Devious Followers work better with Submissive Lola,

Sexlab Survival work better with Submissive Lola.

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, Diziet said:

if i get this right, if i want to give this mod a shot, i should disable sexlab survival and devious followers, correct?

In addition to what's been said, my understanding of the conflicts is that they are limited.  I know that a DFC conflict was occurring if your DF is a hireling rather than a regular follower, and SL Survival's conflict seemed to be related to begging and being gagged and/or bound.  You might not see those situations, and one of them (DFC?) can be handled by clicking a "..." dialog option to get where you want to go.  IF there are no other conflicts, you might not need compatibility patches.  Those who are more familiar with the problems might be able to further clarify. 

[Zor2k13]

What was this trophy thing I might have seen mentioned here earlier? Maybe I read it in the update logs? 

 

Would you say this mod has better whoring gameplay than maria eden LE? Hell, if you could just eventually emulate the whoring and auction stuff and outfit management from maria eden LE that would give us all a reason to finally drop maria eden LE and save on the script load it has. So far there is no other mod where a child npc in skyrim tells the player they don't talk to nasty whores and refuses to talk lol.

[Reaper121]

Managed to get the Forced Prostitution event to happen, or try to.  Same as what I last asked about, I get various ways of saying "You're going to go make me some money with your body" and every time the conversation ends with a "don't leave town until you're finished.  No traveling until your body has earned me enough coin." However the quest fails to start.  Using 1.0 and your latest patch.  MCM option to "make me a whore now" also doesn't trigger the quest, though it seems to trigger the last line of the quest start dialogue.

[darktej]

25 minutes ago, Reaper121 said:

Managed to get the Forced Prostitution event to happen, or try to.  Same as what I last asked about, I get various ways of saying "You're going to go make me some money with your body" and every time the conversation ends with a "don't leave town until you're finished.  No traveling until your body has earned me enough coin." However the quest fails to start.  Using 1.0 and your latest patch.  MCM option to "make me a whore now" also doesn't trigger the quest, though it seems to trigger the last line of the quest start dialogue.

I too am unfortuanately having that issue..with the recent patch.

[Zor2k13]

While in game the hishi penta simple and top items are not visible. I checked in xedit and the model files could not be resolved. What am I missing here?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Zor2k13 said:

What was this trophy thing I might have seen mentioned here earlier?

It's the city event that can occur in Riften, if you have Simple Slavery installed.

1 hour ago, Zor2k13 said:

Would you say this mod has better whoring gameplay than maria eden LE? Hell, if you could just eventually emulate the whoring and auction stuff and outfit management from maria eden LE that would give us all a reason to finally drop maria eden LE and save on the script load it has.

I don't know; I haven't played ME.  What I can say is that the intent here is simply to leverage (make use of) the existing Radiant Prostitution mod rather than reinvent the wheel by trying to build a bigger better prostitution mod.  It does have a basic prostitution option with minimal functionality for those who don't have RP.  All that this mod does is to force you into prostitution to service a set number of clients, with an optional objective to do a few more.  You can set it to be quite burdensome if you want a game where you're forced into prostitution for long periods, but that's as far as it goes.

 

Also, to be clear, neither MrEsturk nor I have anything against TDF Prostitution.  We're just unfamiliar with it because we don't use it, so trying to integrate it as a soft dependency is more than we care to take on.  If someone who's knowledgeable about the inner workings of TDF would like to like to look at how it too could be integrated (without script patches or a hard dependence) and report on how it could be done, that's something I'm willing to tackle.

24 minutes ago, Reaper121 said:

Managed to get the Forced Prostitution event to happen, or try to.  Same as what I last asked about, I get various ways of saying "You're going to go make me some money with your body" and every time the conversation ends with a "don't leave town until you're finished. 

This one has me mystified.  Two others have reported this problem, but someone else says it's working, and I'm unable to reproduce the problem myself, and I spent a lot of time looking at this with nothing to show for it.  It always works for me.  If you can, please try it with this modified script.  The only change is the addition of 3 pop-up messages that you can't miss.  Please "StopQuest vkjPimpedBasic", then "StartQuest vkjPimpedBasic".  You should eventually get to the point where you can say "I shall do as you say".  That triggers the script that advances the quest to stage 5.  The modified version that I linked simply shows messages about its progress while it does its thing.

 

Just to be really clear and avoid any misunderstanding, the installation requires that 1.0 be installed, after which the latest patch should be installed, overwriting the 1.0 files.  Last, the linked script should be installed.  It would help too if you can report the last thing your owner says.  You need not quote the entire thing, but a verbatim quote of part of it (to uniquely identify which record is firing) would be very helpful.  I want to help, but without more data I can't do anything more.

[Hex Bolt]

12 minutes ago, Zor2k13 said:

While in game the hishi penta simple and top items are not visible. I checked in xedit and the model files could not be resolved. What am I missing here?

Devious Devices 4.3, and running BodySlide on it.

[Zor2k13]

Yep just noticed this while browsing it in xedit seems I haven't updated from 4.2 yet.

 

If you can you should try ME LE edition or try to find a video of it for the prostitution stuff. Zaira would never use LAL alternate start mod so we can't get a whoring LAL start in ME. The quickstart addon for ME screws up the player and screws up helgen plus many important npcs big time. Basically you end up naked in a cell for character creation and get trained by some ugly imperial guy then decide where to go, released as a free whore to an inn or get sold or get owned as a slave. Released as a free whore gets you a ring that makes bandits screw you instead of fight you so stroll through bandit camps without fighting. The outfit management combined with the whoring stuff is the best part of the mod really. You can perma change npcs outfits so they start the game with them and all kinds of stuff. 

 

I tell you what, if you can get a LAL start mod for submissive lola going that would go a long way for it. Choose some npcs to be owned by from vanilla game or add your own too. Haelga in riften quickly comes to mind. Just don't pick any from markarth or windhelm and it should be fine.

 

With all the mods here for sex there seems to be only one big thing missing and that is some other land for just sex mods where it looks much like skyrim but there are no vanilla quests and various annoying things like blood on the ice quest or whatshername in markarth stabbed to death right away happening. Really wish there was some kind of debauchery land mod where it was just normal towns and villages only with kinky slavery accepted as normal and anything else that sex mods from here needed. 

[darktej]

22 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Just to be really clear and avoid any misunderstanding, the installation requires that 1.0 be installed, after which the latest patch should be installed, overwriting the 1.0 files.  Last, the linked script should be installed.  It would help too if you can report the last thing your owner says.  You need not quote the entire thing, but a verbatim quote of part of it (to uniquely identify which record is firing) would be very helpful.  I want to help, but without more data I can't do anything more.

Read your earlier posts and tried the patch which you linked. The issue is whether I refuse or accept ...nothing happens. when I refuse...they say something like "you better do it. move your ass" (paraphrasing here) and when I accept....just don't leave town until you have earned me enough coin (something like that). previously after this if I had refused..my pc would get a shock and the quest "pimping my adventurer" would start. if I accepted it of course the quest would normally start up. now it is not starting unfortunately. 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, darktej said:

Read your earlier posts and tried the patch which you linked. The issue is whether I refuse or accept ...nothing happens.

That matches what Naps-on-Dirt saw.  Unfortunately, I can't explain it.  It's as if your game can't find the script that runs when you say "I shall do as you say" and your owner responds.  And that script hasn't changed since August 6, which was before 1.0.  The modified script that I provided is identical except for adding 3 pop-up messages to confirm that it's running.  It has to show you at least one pop-up message -- but it doesn't.  That shouldn't be possible.  I can't understand it, particularly when it works for some players and not others. 

[audhol]

          I've been playing with SLR for a few days and I think its really well done, a nice balance of domination and affection loads of variety and it seems very stable (SE version) I only had one small problem (which was me being dum) if you set the nudity rule to be player home only without having a home the quest will hang. The owner says about the clothes being too much but doesn't strip, then if you strip they will say about what they have to say being easier but it doesn't trigger not a bug but just impossible conditions from my mcm choices causing the quest to hang.

 

 

        I don't quite understand how to set up the gold control, I want it so the owner takes all my gold and I just have the allowance but it doesn't seem to work how I think,

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            Also is there anyway to add SLS begging to count as a client for the pimping quest just to give it a bit more variety (Ideally if I was being picky the owner would watch you like the confessions quest and give you the hard paddington bear stare with loss of submission if you refuse what the client wants)

 

 

          Anyway thanks again to both of you for your work on this mod.

 

 

 

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, audhol said:

        I don't quite understand how to set up the gold control, I want it so the owner takes all my gold and I just have the allowance but it doesn't seem to work how I think, (...)

Just roleplay that for yourself and give Mistress all your gold as a starter. If you set the anti-cheat option, that you cannot take gold from Her, then you should remain w/o any gold.

[audhol]

34 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Just roleplay that for yourself and give Mistress all your gold

Yeah I could do that but then I would have to give her gold every time I got some, she never takes any off me once she's over her poverty limit. I figured it would work similar to pet collar where any gold over your allowance goes straight to the follower and if you have less than your allowance they would give you some back as long as they were above their poverty setting.