Submissive Lola: The resubmission

[Teddar]

So, I thought I would try out Serana as a mistress after completing her quest line. But she doesn't have the dialogue to start the enslavement. Neither does Valerica even though I can recruit her as a follower?. I don't have issues with getting enslavement dialogue to show up for any other follower that I have tried out including custom followers. Do you need to do something different with Serana? If its a bug, is there a quest set stage that I can try in order to force her to try to enslave me or to get the dialogue branch to show up?

[darktej]

6 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

That matches what Naps-on-Dirt saw.  Unfortunately, I can't explain it.  It's as if your game can't find the script that runs when you say "I shall do as you say" and your owner responds.  And that script hasn't changed since August 6, which was before 1.0.  The modified script that I provided is identical except for adding 3 pop-up messages to confirm that it's running.  It has to show you at least one pop-up message -- but it doesn't.  That shouldn't be possible.  I can't understand it, particularly when it works for some players and not others. 

 I will try uninstalling and reinstaling 1.0 with the patch.  will see whether that hopefully works.

[shiagwen]

whipping again stopped by low health, not by time. time was set by 66sec. lvl 16, 260 hp

 

i have to say that not enough of the right kind is happening. run lola run comes more than enough, but for example no DDs or anything for the naked body in towns. only the collar. simply naked. on the other hand so often kneel down and nothing happening. dialogues and situations repeating and others in mcm, dont come up.

[darktej]

7 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

That matches what Naps-on-Dirt saw.  Unfortunately, I can't explain it.  It's as if your game can't find the script that runs when you say "I shall do as you say" and your owner responds.  And that script hasn't changed since August 6, which was before 1.0.  The modified script that I provided is identical except for adding 3 pop-up messages to confirm that it's running.  It has to show you at least one pop-up message -- but it doesn't.  That shouldn't be possible.  I can't understand it, particularly when it works for some players and not others. 

@HexBolt8 so I uninstalled everything and reinstalled both 1.0 and the recent patch. Didn't work. So I uninstalled and installed the Sept 2nd patch. Didn't work. Uninstalled that patch as well. So was trying it with only 1.0 and the quest started up. So what I did then was  copy vkj_zStartPimped and vkjpimpedbasic. And then reinstalled the Sept 4th patch and overwrote the two script files. And it was working. don't know whether this is recommended but at least this is working for now.

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, audhol said:

add SLS begging to count as a client for the pimping quest

Unfortunately it's really not practical.  This mod uses its own basic system and its client counting, or Radiant Prostitution and counting by RP client alias. 

7 hours ago, audhol said:

I don't quite understand how to set up the gold control

The loot sharing setting takes new gold that you pick up (with a few exceptions) but it doesn't touch gold that was in your inventory.  Owner expenses does that, when the owner feels poor.

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, Teddar said:

So, I thought I would try out Serana as a mistress after completing her quest line. But she doesn't have the dialogue to start the enslavement. Neither does Valerica even though I can recruit her as a follower?. I don't have issues with getting enslavement dialogue to show up for any other follower that I have tried out including custom followers. Do you need to do something different with Serana?

A follower must be in CurrentFollowerFaction to be eligible as an owner.  Also, it looks like there's a bug with the 24-hour lockout on re-submitting to the same NPC after leaving enslavement, in that it applies to all NPCs.  I'll fix that, but for now try waiting 24 hours past when you left enslavement, if that's something you recently did.

[audhol]

15 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Unfortunately it's really not practical.  This mod uses its own basic system and its client counting, or Radiant Prostitution and counting by RP client alias. 

OK fair enough I do use RP which is where most of my gold has come from thanks to being pimped out! Now I understand it's only gold that you pick up that counts as shared not from rewards or selling. If I set the poverty lvl really high i'll always be at 0 gold so I guess @CaptainJ03 solution is the only one that would work to be in a "gold control" system.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, darktej said:

So was trying it with only 1.0 and the quest started up. So what I did then was  copy vkj_zStartPimped and vkjpimpedbasic. And then reinstalled the Sept 4th patch and overwrote the two script files. And it was working. don't know whether this is recommended but at least this is working for now.

Are you installing manually, or with a mod manager?

 

vkj_zStartPimped hasn't changed, but the other script has.  I can compare differences.  Did the the dialog play out exactly the same before and after you got the quest working?  Specifically, did you get to say "I shall do as you say"?

[darktej]

1 minute ago, HexBolt8 said:

Are you installing manually, or with a mod manager?

 

vkj_zStartPimped hasn't changed, but the other script has.  I can compare differences.  Did the the dialog play out exactly the same before and after you got the quest working?  Specifically, did you get to say "I shall do as you say"?

as far as I can tell they played out exactly the same.

 

when I accept "Just don't leave town until you have finished. No travelling until  your body has earned enough coin."

 

and when I refuse "You'd better start looking for clients if you know what's good for you. Move your ass."

 

only difference is this time the quest started up.

 

And I use Nexus mod manager. to install and uninstall.

[Hex Bolt]

15 hours ago, darktej said:

only difference is this time the quest started up.

If you get a chance, try it again please with this modified script.  I made a minor to change to the updating.  To be sure you're getting a clean start, you should "StopQuest vkjPimpedBasic" before trying it again, even if the quest has ended.

 

[darktej]

3 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

If you get a chance, ty it again please with this modified script.  I made a minor to change to the updating.  To be sure you're getting a clean start, you should "StopQuest vkjPimpedBasic" before trying it again, even if the quest has ended.

vkjpimpedbasic.7z 3.55 kB · 0 downloads

thanks will give it a go. 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, audhol said:

Now I understand it's only gold that you pick up that counts as shared not from rewards or selling.

No, loot sharing also transfers gold to the owner when you sell things (confirmed in my testing), and though I haven't tested it it should also work for rewards.  Or it tries to.  If another mod is interfering with your gold or doing special handling of items as they enter your inventory, then the gold transfer can't work.  A lot of mods have their fingers in that process.  There are also exceptions.  Gold is NOT transferred in these cases:
- Gold that you take from a container you own (such as in your house).  Unowned containers are not owned by you.
- Gold that you take from your owner's inventory.
- Gold that you give yourself with the console.
- Gold from any source during forced prostitution.

[darktej]

@HexBolt8 tried your patched script...unfortunately the quest would not start up. will get the dialogue by the owner but the quest will never fire up. so went back to the 1.0 script and presto it starts again. strange maybe some mod is interferring with the updated script? but nonetheless the 1.0 script works.

[Herowynne]

12 hours ago, Zor2k13 said:

LAL start mod for submissive lola

Here is how I do that: Use LAL to start at an inn in the town where your desired master resides. Use Submissive Lola’s MCM to start its quest, then talk to your desired master. It is very fast and straightforward.

[Herowynne]

12 hours ago, Zor2k13 said:

Really wish there was some kind of debauchery land mod where it was just normal towns and villages only with kinky slavery accepted as normal and anything else that sex mods from here needed.

You can get something similar to that with a combination of Slaverun and Sexlab Survival.

 

Sexlab Survival has an MCM option to start Slaverun immediately, and Slaverun can be configured to automatically enslave all towns with a short delay.

 

That combination makes Skyrim similar to what you described - a land of debauchery where you can’t really do the vanilla quests.

[audhol]

53 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

A lot of mods have their fingers in that process

Thank you for the response I will have to check my load order because a lot of my gold came from quests contained in lauras bondage shop (LBS?) I understand why forced prostitution wouldn't take gold as the owner has already taken their cut.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, darktej said:

tried your patched script...unfortunately the quest would not start up. will get the dialogue by the owner but the quest will never fire up. so went back to the 1.0 script and presto it starts again.

Thank you for trying.  I'm in a really difficult position because I can't get the quest to fail to start, so I can't test changes.  I can't even see anything that looks wrong. 

 

If you (or anyone) would like to try another test, maybe we can narrow down the source:

 

Spoiler

• Get your installation working as you did before, by copying the vkjpimpedbasic script from 1.0.
• Install just vkj_zStartPimped from the attached file.
• StopQuest vkjpimpedbasic, then StartQuest vkjpimpedbasic.
• The quest should start and you should see annoying progress messages.
• Exit the game and now install vkjpimpedbasic from the attached file.
• StopQuest vkjpimpedbasic, then StartQuest vkjpimpedbasic.
• Do you see those progress messages?  If so, which ones?
• If the quest started, then "sqv vkjpimpedbasic" and see if ::PauseGoldSharing_var is true.
• If the test failed, are you using SE?  I wonder if this a SE incompatibility.
• To clean up afterwards, copy those two files from 1.0 so your quest works again.

PimpedScripts.7z

 

 

[darktej]

32 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Thank you for trying.  I'm in a really difficult position because I can't get the quest to fail to start, so I can't test changes.  I can't even see anything that looks wrong. 

 

If you (or anyone) would like to try another test, maybe we can narrow down the source:

 

  Hide contents

• Get your installation working as you did before, by copying the vkjpimpedbasic script from 1.0.
• Install just vkj_zStartPimped from the attached file.
• StopQuest vkjpimpedbasic, then StartQuest vkjpimpedbasic.
• The quest should start and you should see annoying progress messages.
• Exit the game and now install vkjpimpedbasic from the attached file.
• StopQuest vkjpimpedbasic, then StartQuest vkjpimpedbasic.
• Do you see those progress messages?  If so, which ones?
• If the quest started, then "sqv vkjpimpedbasic" and see if ::PauseGoldSharing_var is true.
• If the test failed, are you using SE?  I wonder if this a SE incompatibility.
• To clean up afterwards, copy those two files from 1.0 so your quest works again.

PimpedScripts.7z 3.99 kB · 0 downloads

 

 

thanks for the detailed test. first up I use LE version of Skyrim. I used  vkj_zStartPimped first and followerd your method. quest started up and the number of customers was updating properly. then I tried vkjpimpedbasic and unfortuntely ...quest does not start up as usual. if the other people who are currently having the issue are able to solve their issue with your test then please don't mind me..I  will use the older script files for now. thanks again.

[Hex Bolt]

@darktej, thank you for testing.  Did you see all 3 pop-up progress messages (like "Ready to start prostitution") on the first test that worked with the older vkjpimpedbasic?  And no progress messages on the second test that failed?

[darktej]

22 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

@darktej, thank you for testing.  Did you see all 3 pop-up progress messages (like "Ready to start prostitution") on the first test that worked with the older vkjpimpedbasic?  And no progress messages on the second test that failed?

I did get a pop up with your recent vkj_zStartPimped and the old vkjpimpedbasic. but when I change to the newer vkjpimpedbasic...I am force greeted by the owner but quest doesn't start and no pop up's are there.  on another note is it normal for the owner not to receive any cut of the gold during the pimp quest. eventhough I set it to 50% and even 100% their inventory does not have any gold in it.

[Hex Bolt]

8 minutes ago, darktej said:

on another note is it normal for the owner not to receive any cut of the gold during the pimp quest. eventhough I set it to 50% and even 100% their inventory does not have any gold in it.

The owner receiving a cut of the gold is new functionality added in the new script.  The older 1.0 version doesn't do that.  Thank you again for testing.  I'm still not sure what the problem is or how many people are affected.  It's very strange.

[darktej]

2 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

The owner receiving a cut of the gold is new functionality added in the new script.  The older 1.0 version doesn't do that.  Thank you again for testing.  I'm still not sure what the problem is or how many people are affected.  It's very strange.

ah lol. just my luck  anyways thanks for the help. I will see what else I can do. 

[darktej]

@HexBolt8 hi again. was curious..so decided to look at the esp in the creation kit. my knowledge is very basic. but still was curious to see what's up. I decided to see the vkjpimpedbasic quest. there I saw there were two scripts vkj_qPimpedBasic and vkjPimpedBasic. I could not access vkj_qPimpedBasic...and when I did...it had no properties in it. So I uninstalled the Sept 4th patch and just had 1.0 installed. And decided to check out the CK. there I could access the script vkj_qPimpedBasic and it had four properties Alias_owner, Alias_Player, Alias_Title and Forcegreet Scene. and they were all filled. don't know whether this is useful info or relevant. but this is what I found. 

[Hex Bolt]

10 minutes ago, darktej said:

don't know whether this is useful info or relevant. but this is what I found. 

It could be relevant to the problem you've been having, depending on how you use your mod manager.  I install entirely manually to avoid mod manager weirdness, so I can't offer advice on mod managers.

 

The Sept 4 patch doesn't have the vkj_qPimpedBasic script because it hasn't changed since 1.0.  Same for vkj_zStartPimped.  The main script for this quest, vkjpimpedbasic, did change to add support for owner gold and loot sharing, so it is in the patch.

 

What the CK sees should be all or nothing.  If it can't see the magic that your mod manager works, then it shouldn't find anything.  But if it can, and if your installation is correct, then it should see the 1.0 files and the Sept 4 overwrites for the files that changed since 1.0.  It's not right that it can't find the properties for one script but it can for the other.

 

It might not be coincidence that the full 1.0 release works for you but the patch doesn't.  Are you really really sure that your mod manager is overwriting 1.0 files with Sept 4 patch files?  Are you possibly running the Sept 4 patch alone without 1.0 when you activate it in your mod manager?  The problems you've experienced are inexplicable to me, I can't find anything wrong and I've looked hard, but a bad installation would explain things. 

 

If you have any doubt about how your installation is working, merge the two sets of files with Sept 4 overwriting 1.0 as needed.  I believe that if you unzip 1.0 into your data folder, then unzip the patch on top of that and overwriting, that should overwrite whatever your mod manager is trying to do and give you a complete up to date installation.  If you don't like it that way, you can undo it by deleting this mod's texture folder and the esp file, and deleting all script files named *vkj*.*

[darktej]

7 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

It could be relevant to the problem you've been having, depending on how you use your mod manager.  I install entirely manually to avoid mod manager weirdness, so I can't offer advice on mod managers.

 

The Sept 4 patch doesn't have the vkj_qPimpedBasic script because it hasn't changed since 1.0.  Same for vkj_zStartPimped.  The main script for this quest, vkjpimpedbasic, did change to add support for owner gold and loot sharing, so it is in the patch.

 

What the CK sees should be all or nothing.  If it can't see the magic that your mod manager works, then it shouldn't find anything.  But if it can, and if your installation is correct, then it should see the 1.0 files and the Sept 4 overwrites for the files that changed since 1.0.  It's not right that it can't find the properties for one script but it can for the other.

 

It might not be coincidence that the full 1.0 release works for you but the patch doesn't.  Are you really really sure that your mod manager is overwriting 1.0 files with Sept 4 patch files?  Are you possibly running the Sept 4 patch alone without 1.0 when you activate it in your mod manager?  The problems you've experienced are inexplicable to me, I can't find anything wrong and I've looked hard, but a bad installation would explain things. 

 

If you have any doubt about how your installation is working, merge the two sets of files with Sept 4 overwriting 1.0 as needed.  I believe that if you unzip 1.0 into your data folder, then unzip the patch on top of that and overwriting, that should overwrite whatever your mod manager is trying to do and give you a complete up to date installation.  If you don't like it that way, you can undo it by deleting this mod's texture folder and the esp file, and deleting all script files named *vkj*.*

ok I will give it a go by uninstalling and then manually installing. I may have found something interesting. till now I was playing without Radiant Prostitution. It used to work without any issues. But now I installed Radiant Prostitution and the quest starts and updates properly. but the owner does not receive any gold. but as you said I will try uninstalling and reinstalling manually without Radiant Prostituion for now. thanks again.