SexLab Confabulation (September 16, 2020)

[Narcolepsy]

14 hours ago, HabibHanson said:

Always glad to see an update for you, made my day. Got another idea that I pitched to Troubles of Heroine with no response, figured I would give you the chance to look at it and see if it would fit for you too.

Nobody has done anything expanding upon Ysolda after she gets the mammoth tusk, a follow-up quest where you help or just watch her go and 'learn' from the khajiit merchants would be a neat idea.

I can see about adding something for Ysolda later on.

11 hours ago, Highborn said:

Thanks for the update, @Narcolepsy  !

 

By the way, I know you're already done with the Dark Brotherhood, but I was wondering if you could make one last thing that I always searched but I don't think anyone has done with their questline yet: the possibility of quitting the Dark Brotherhood in a more 'immersive way', without using console command or spells.

 

I wish I could experience the life of an assassin doing the sex content of your mod, but not being comitted for life with siths and the institution. It's the main reason I don't play as DB anymore, for the role-playing standpoint, it's like you are associated forever with the siths and the evil side, there is no redemption, unless you pretend to ignore all that happened, with no resolution in-game.

I like the idea, and I can look into possibly adding a way to leave the DB.

4 hours ago, karlpaws said:

Your bulleted list of things to wait is if we are upgrading the mod while in a play through, correct?  Not in between doing various quests or otherwise playing the mod?

They are things to do if you already have the mod installed in your game and are interfacing with it's sex dialogues and scenes. The waiting two in-game days is because there are some OnUpdateGameTime and OnUpdate events that may be running.

1 hour ago, karlpaws said:

A couple things noticed

 

I used a bear potion near two bears, and both sexed my PC but only one died. Intentional?

Used a wolf potion at the same time, and while the wolf was peaceful while the potion was in effect, no sex while I was near it for 2 minutes

That wolf remained calmed and another wolf I found later was also calmed but a bear I found was not.

 

Wolf stayed friendly even after a save, exit and reload.

The potions should only work for one creature at a time, did it start a FCC animation or were you able to have sex with each one separately with a single potion?

 

The potions work by first adding the player to the relevant creature faction, which makes them passive. Then it searches for random actors around the Player which match certain races. This includes the Player, as Skyrim doesn't have a good searching function. Once it finds an actor that matches the races, it starts a 2p sex animation. After sex it kills the creature and then 10 seconds later ends the effect of the potion and removes the player from the creature faction. Taking another potion, either the same kind or a different one, should cancel any other aphrodisiac potions you currently have in effect.

 

If any wolves are still friendly to you after the potion has ended, you can try taking the potion again to clear the faction or use the console command Player.RemoveFromFaction 0003E691.

 

41 minutes ago, waiyan said:

I don’t mean to be ungrateful but when do you think the final version will be done? Just speculation. I can wait. I’m just curious.

No final version for a long time. There are still the College of Winterhold, Bards College, Civil War Factions, Main Questline, Dawnguard/Vampire, Dragonborn, and various misc quests that will get coverage in the future.

 

12 hours ago, DarkOneM said:

 

 

4 hours ago, karlpaws said:

 

I'll keep these suggestions in mind.

[karlpaws]

47 minutes ago, Narcolepsy said:

The potions should only work for one creature at a time, did it start a FCC animation or were you able to have sex with each one separately with a single potion?

It seemed to activate both animals at the same time and they looked like they were both doing the same animation, but it was FC, not FCC.

47 minutes ago, Narcolepsy said:

The potions work by first adding the player to the relevant creature faction, which makes them passive. Then it searches for random actors around the Player which match certain races. This includes the Player, as Skyrim doesn't have a good searching function. Once it finds an actor that matches the races, it starts a 2p sex animation. After sex it kills the creature and then 10 seconds later ends the effect of the potion and removes the player from the creature faction. Taking another potion, either the same kind or a different one, should cancel any other aphrodisiac potions you currently have in effect.

That's what I thought from what I observed.  I suspected it was because the two bears were right next each other and the player that happened that way.

47 minutes ago, Narcolepsy said:

If any wolves are still friendly to you after the potion has ended, you can try taking the potion again to clear the faction or use the console command Player.RemoveFromFaction 0003E691.

I will try that tomorrow.

[Loller99]

Will the patches work with se? Especially ''solutions'' one, since there's no SE version of it

[Highborn]

3 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

 

I like the idea, and I can look into possibly adding a way to leave the DB.

Nice, thank you!

[Narcolepsy]

52 minutes ago, Loller99 said:

Will the patches work with se? Especially ''solutions'' one, since there's no SE version of it

Yes all the patches should work fine in SE. I will eventually setup a fomod with seperate LE and SE installs and patches to match.

[shiagwen]

Do you know this one ?  Spell works on all types o fhumans and creatures..

 

i didnt test the update yet, i am curious about follower.

i have my doubts creature potion is a good idea.

1. available in thieves guild - not everybodies starting location

2. works only at one creature - and the rest of them  ?

3. must be taken out of combat - usually they surprise me from somewhere. i dont use compass

4. creature is killed from potion - no skill points

What would be better ?

With Defeat i already get a better result. Surrender on creaatures, let all of them around fuck pc, 6 wolves if you lucky. and they fuck pc each two times, single or threesomes , or more,  And they also fuck the follower.  After that you have 12 seconds to run back, prepare for battle , get your skill points. With option to be left in wilderness or rescued to tavern. Sorry, no need to buy Potions in thievesguild.

Confabulation makes a good job  on dogs and horses.

To go for the wild ones, there is hardly no other way than to go into the bounty quests., as i always said. Plus new bounty quests for creatures dens. 

Aela is just one of four Questgivers in Warriors Guld, you cant pick her out for creature sex in general.

[Veldon]

Concerning the Vanilla quests for the college it would be great if the PC could make an arrangement with the Caller, so that the NPC becomes more valuable instead of ending up as a one-time enemy or a mere background character. If ypu are interested I could develop a short storyline for that part.

[mhj54322]

I don’t know why I can only get oral sex with sibbi sex sence, sometimes I can get to the second sex sence, but nothing happens later, is there any way to skip it?

[Narcolepsy]

21 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Do you know this one ?  Spell works on all types o fhumans and creatures..

 

i didnt test the update yet, i am curious about follower.

i have my doubts creature potion is a good idea.

1. available in thieves guild - not everybodies starting location

2. works only at one creature - and the rest of them  ?

3. must be taken out of combat - usually they surprise me from somewhere. i dont use compass

4. creature is killed from potion - no skill points

What would be better ?

With Defeat i already get a better result. Surrender on creaatures, let all of them around fuck pc, 6 wolves if you lucky. and they fuck pc each two times, single or threesomes , or more,  And they also fuck the follower.  After that you have 12 seconds to run back, prepare for battle , get your skill points. With option to be left in wilderness or rescued to tavern. Sorry, no need to buy Potions in thievesguild.

Confabulation makes a good job  on dogs and horses.

To go for the wild ones, there is hardly no other way than to go into the bounty quests., as i always said. Plus new bounty quests for creatures dens. 

Aela is just one of four Questgivers in Warriors Guld, you cant pick her out for creature sex in general.

SexLab Fuck 'Em Up works by reusing a mass calm spell and letting you start a simple sex dialogue with an npc. Then it causes a damage over time effect to affect the npc. This is fine for a generic spell, but doesn't make sense for a potion effect which is made to target a certain race of creatures.

 

Regarding the potion:

1. His location in the Ragged Flaggon is on purpose, as it is the seediest part of Skyrim. Also you do not have to belong to the Thieves Guild to go down there and talk to him.
2. The potions are single use, single target. Meaning when you take one, you will attract one creature to have sex with you and kill it. Then the effect wears off. You can use another potion afterwards if you want. There are potions for nearly all the different creatures in Skyrim.
3. Them having to be used outside of combat is a result of how adding the player to factions works. If you are in combat, regardless if you are added to their faction, they will still be hostile to you. Ideally you would take these to get rid of a creature that you already know about.
4. Other forms of death by sex will result in no skill points regardless. If you really want skill points, you should be trying to kill them normally.

Not everyone runs defeat, for me it is especially unreliable in properly running. Also using defeat requires you to purposely lose to the creatures, which may not fit some rp of some players. If it works better for you, then by all means use defeat instead of the potions.

 

The giant potions can be used to complete the giant bounties btw. You can use a mod like SexLab Fuck 'Em Up to do the other human related bounties. Or something like Deadly Drain. This mod is not really combat focused and as such the bounties are outside the scope of this mod.

 

Aela's Animal Extermination quests have creature sex, because they are the only ones that actually involve creatures. Skjor's Escaped Criminal is also covered with sex options, and Farkas' Hired Muscles quest is covered by Solutions. 

 

19 hours ago, Veldon said:

Concerning the Vanilla quests for the college it would be great if the PC could make an arrangement with the Caller, so that the NPC becomes more valuable instead of ending up as a one-time enemy or a mere background character. If ypu are interested I could develop a short storyline for that part.

Feel free to, it would help me easily implement something for her if I had something to work with instead of trying to come up with it on my own.

[killer905]

Truth or Dare would suit "College of Winterhold". I don't know if this is possible but of course it's only a suggestion. 

Would some Hmm party for College of Winterhold? Sex, orgy (we have 2 orgy to FG and TG: D and i think 3 th orgy is too much) etc. (only a suggestion) even a challenge would fit "who does a better blowjob"

Maybe instead of adding a follower in MCM Menu, it's better to give the dialogue option "Do you want to join my sexy adventures?" if this is possible .

Would use some dialogue for a follower when we choose her to participate in sex "Sex with Nord? Hmm, always" "What? Sex with a horse, are you serious? *sign* Okay but this one time" Alternatively, add for follower question about the idea of having sex with an animal or other race of humans / cat-humans / elves.

[Narcolepsy]

8 minutes ago, mhj54322 said:

I don’t know why I can only get oral sex with sibbi sex sence, sometimes I can get to the second sex sence, but nothing happens later, is there any way to skip it?

Try using the console command "Set SC_MJCounter to 1" if he doesn't give you the dialogue after the BJ scene. Then increase by 1 for each sex scene afterwards if it doesn't continue. The last sex scene with Sibbi ends with SC_MJCounter being 8.

[mhj54322]

1 hour ago, Narcolepsy said:

如果他在BJ场景后没有给您对话， 请尝试使用控制台命令“将SC_MJCounter设置为1 ”。如果以后没有继续，则为每个性爱场景增加1。与Sibbi的最后一次性爱场面以SC_MJCounter为8结尾。

Only when Set SC_MJCounter to 3 is used, the scene becomes a blowjob, and nothing happens with other numbers.

[zzki9lerzz]

Hi, i got a quest with horse, but when i press nothing happen, no talk menu no ride no anything. Need some help pls ? ❤️

 

 

[xyzxyz]

Is there a male-female-wolf animation for the scene with Aela and the wolf?

[Narcolepsy]

1 hour ago, zzki9lerzz said:

Hi, i got a quest with horse, but when i press nothing happen, no talk menu no ride no anything. Need some help pls ? ❤️

 

 

Are you on SE or LE? You can try using the load an earlier save and using the auto-start horse sex option in the MCM.

11 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Is there a male-female-wolf animation for the scene with Aela and the wolf?

MNC and Anubs both have MFC animations for wolves, although I can't recall if that scene calls specifically for FFC or properly sorts tags by gender.

[DarkOneM]

If still need ideas for the College how about a quest to get a spirit of a horse as mount, like the one of headless horseman you can see at night. Once the quest is completed you could summon it just like Arvak, or make it lesser power... oh, and since this is sexlab site I guess you could even "recharge" it with life after each summon or something.

 

On the side note there are quite a few quests (Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood) where you pose as a whore. The thing is... you have absolutely no problems convincing the other party even if you wear a full set of daedric armor... totally not suspicious... I think it would be more immersive if that worked only if you wear tavern clothes, (EditID with TES5Edit: ClothesWenchClothes01). Could make it craftable at tanning rack... or just make the guy with potions at Ragged Flagon include those in the list.

 

Great mod.

 

 

[Veldon]

47 minutes ago, DarkOneM said:

 The thing is... you have absolutely no problems convincing the other party even if you wear a full set of daedric armor... totally not suspicious... I think it would be more immersive if that worked only if you wear tavern clothes, (EditID with TES5Edit: ClothesWenchClothes01). Could make it craftable at tanning rack... or just make the guy with potions at Ragged Flagon include those in the list.

 

Great mod.

 

 

Better add the clothes to one of the merchants: Buyable only by having sex with him / her.

 

 

 

As for the new quests (Thieves Guild and Maven):

Is there a difference if you choose a stallion for Maven (palomino / brown horse) in the Windhelm quest without having sex with it?

Can you annoy Maven by making the wrong choice and be punished for your poor choice afterwards?

[Narcolepsy]

7 hours ago, DarkOneM said:

On the side note there are quite a few quests (Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood) where you pose as a whore. The thing is... you have absolutely no problems convincing the other party even if you wear a full set of daedric armor... totally not suspicious... I think it would be more immersive if that worked only if you wear tavern clothes, (EditID with TES5Edit: ClothesWenchClothes01). Could make it craftable at tanning rack... or just make the guy with potions at Ragged Flagon include those in the list.

Hey, who says you can't get sexy in Daedric armor, Haelga in Riften sure can. I can make it so that to do the DB sex assassinations you shouldn't be wearing their uniform, same with Thieves Guild sex stuff with pickpocketing and Goldenglow.

 

7 hours ago, Veldon said:

As for the new quests (Thieves Guild and Maven):

Is there a difference if you choose a stallion for Maven (palomino / brown horse) in the Windhelm quest without having sex with it?

Can you annoy Maven by making the wrong choice and be punished for your poor choice afterwards?

No difference. I did this in case the user wanted to skip beastiality, but didn't toggle the option in the MCM.

[iggypop1]

Hi thanks for your updates very nice mod

 

Have just played the Maven quest.....and i must admit i had hoped for some ZAZ..stuff in there, but very nice anyway.....another thing as i dont play with defeat mods would it be possible to make the potiondealer in thieves guild sell the falmer aphrodiciac....or aphrodisiacs for all hostile creatures?

[Narcolepsy]

5 hours ago, iggypop1 said:

Hi thanks for your updates very nice mod

 

Have just played the Maven quest.....and i must admit i had hoped for some ZAZ..stuff in there, but very nice anyway.....another thing as i dont play with defeat mods would it be possible to make the potiondealer in thieves guild sell the falmer aphrodiciac....or aphrodisiacs for all hostile creatures?

I tend to avoid using ZAZ and DD stuff, as I personally don't use them and I kind of want this mod to be fairly standalone from other SexLab mods. I might eventually make a patch to include some of those things much later on.

 

Falmer and other creature aphrodisiacs will be introduced in the next update. If you want, you can use console or a mod like AddItem to get them right now, since they are already in the mod, just not yet for sale.

[DarkOneM]

8 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

Hey, who says you can't get sexy in Daedric armor, Haelga in Riften sure can.

Oh, I'm sure she can, but... she is not exactly a whore ... well, not a prostitute at least. Anyway, what I meant is that when the player pretends to be a whore (a prostitute) one should look the part. And tavern clothes in some more popular mods represent exactly that. It was the only reason I suggested that outfit in particular.

 

Well, it doesn't really matter I guess, It was just for a flavor anyway.

 

Another suggestion regarding College where the professors send you on an errand to clean up their mess.

 

Drevis Neloren: not long ago he has visited the Inn at the city and ran into a Jarl. The rude fellow has started insulting him out of nowhere and Drevis used his newest spell to calm him down. It worked flawlessly at that time, but... there seemed to be a side effect... the Jarl is now completely horny and all women in the city are in constant danger... some men too. Head down and use a regular calm spell to cancel the effect. Just be cautious the Jarl doesn't see you... 

 

[iggypop1]

17 hours ago, Narcolepsy said:

I tend to avoid using ZAZ and DD stuff, as I personally don't use them and I kind of want this mod to be fairly standalone from other SexLab mods. I might eventually make a patch to include some of those things much later on.

 

Falmer and other creature aphrodisiacs will be introduced in the next update. If you want, you can use console or a mod like AddItem to get them right now, since they are already in the mod, just not yet for sale.

Thanx for not using DD stuff.......but zaz is just a resourse.to draw from ...DD is much to much IMO.......im playing with the mod amorous adventures.....that vanilla feeling makes sense.....when making your mod, do you think about that mod....ie can it play together with your planned updates?

[Veldon]

On 9/11/2020 at 3:44 AM, Narcolepsy said:

Hey, who says you can't get sexy in Daedric armor, Haelga in Riften sure can. I can make it so that to do the DB sex assassinations you shouldn't be wearing their uniform, same with Thieves Guild sex stuff with pickpocketing and Goldenglow.

That would be add to the gameplay as it would make sense to go there in disguise and not with the obvious hint to be a spy.

 

On 9/11/2020 at 3:44 AM, Narcolepsy said:

No difference. I did this in case the user wanted to skip beastiality, but didn't toggle the option in the MCM.

Could you expand the quest by including a punishment option if you chose - with or without the "test" - an inapt horse?

F.e. you might have to collect and sell horse semen for Maven until she got her money back. Or you might get a whipping and have to persuade the stable master in an unusual way to take the horse back.

 

 

I found an annoying bug with the Vex quest. If you save and reload between standing at the stables with Vex and speaking to her, Vex turns around and walks back.

[Narcolepsy]

19 hours ago, iggypop1 said:

Thanx for not using DD stuff.......but zaz is just a resourse.to draw from ...DD is much to much IMO.......im playing with the mod amorous adventures.....that vanilla feeling makes sense.....when making your mod, do you think about that mod....ie can it play together with your planned updates?

I probably won't do any tie-ins with other mods, at least not until I finish with all that I want with this mod at first.

1 hour ago, Veldon said:

I found a annoying bug with the Vex quest. If you save and reload between standing at the stables with Vex and speaking to her, Vex turns around and walks back.

Are you using the latest update? This sounds like the issue I found earlier where quest aliases were being emptied on load, which breaks things like the following NPCs.

 

You can see if the problem is there by using the console command "SQV SexLab_Confab" and seeing if there are aliases that are filled. Save, and load that save and use the same command. If the aliases now show "None" then the issue is there.

 

You could try "StopQuest SexLab_Confab", then "StartQuest SexLab_Confab" if that is indeed the issue, and see if it solves the problem. Just make sure you do it when not in the middle of one of this mod quests/scenarios and without someone following you through this mod.

[Oroborus]

On 9/9/2020 at 2:03 PM, Narcolepsy said:

I can see about adding something for Ysolda later on

HabibHanson is wrong, SS Revisited gives an option for her.

 

On 9/9/2020 at 2:03 PM, Narcolepsy said:

Dragonborn

Troubles of heroine managed to cover it faster, but i think we could use it and make better version.