Executaball Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Golgo13 said: Hide contents Hm... Strange... That just was created when you created a new profile? I see you under 'Default' right now, does switching to your new profile also still give those backup files? They might be created some other patching / merging tool you used. If you do not need the backup to be there, look into MO2/mods/ and delete those backup files / folders. Edited July 19, 2021 by executaball
xyzxyz Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 I think the horny Mysterious stranger should keep her mask on during sex. It would make more sense story wise.
Golgo13 Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, executaball said: Hm... Strange... That just was created when you created a new profile? I see you under 'Default' right now, does switching to your new profile also still give those backup files? If I have multiple working setups, I'm fine with multiple profiles. For now, while I have zero setups working, I'm only working with the one profile. The MO2 video tutorial I followed to install the basics suggested configuring MO2 to work with only one profile, total. To keep my options open, I configured it to allow multiple profiles, anyway, should I desire them in the future. But, I don't need six boat trailers for one boat that can't even float.
Executaball Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Golgo13 said: If I have multiple working setups, I'm fine with multiple profiles. For now, while I have zero setups working, I'm only working with the one profile. Oh I thought you meant you created a new profile when you said "slimmed down loadout". Sorry, um... Okay... firstly are you sure your game is fully vanilla? Have you ever attempted to install mods directly into the game? If not can you check the MO2/mods/ folder and delete any folders not having the name of mods in your load order? You probably will find those 'backup' folders / files. 40 minutes ago, Golgo13 said: The MO2 video tutorial I followed to install the basics suggested configuring MO2 to work with only one profile, total. To keep my options open, I configured it to allow multiple profiles, anyway, should I desire them in the future. But, I don't need six boat trailers for one boat that can't even float. Okay... That's all fine. So you're still following the video so far? Anything not worked? At what point in following the video did you create / find the unmanaged backup files? Seems very strange they would pop up randomly... Edited July 19, 2021 by executaball
Golgo13 Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, executaball said: Okay... firstly are you sure your game is fully vanilla? Have you ever attempted to install mods directly into the game? If not can you check the MO2/mods/ folder and delete any folders not having the name of mods in your load order? You probably will find those 'backup' folders / files. The only things I ever added directly to the game files were necessary components of SKSE that needed to be installed there. The big selling point of MO2 is that it keeps your game vanilla, and even I'm not stupid enough to foul that up-- I was even uncomfortable as I dropped the SKSE components directly into the game files. As I believe I mentioned earlier, MO2 provides an option for deleting those files. I'll screencap the options presented. I'm just nervous b/c MO2 has done some baffling (to me) things when I've deleted files from its menu in the past. Spoiler 50 minutes ago, executaball said: At what point in following the video did you create / find the unmanaged backup files? Seems very strange they would pop up randomly... I quit following the videos when I finished watching all of them (I wish the guy had made one for installing Wrye-Bash on MO2...); that was well over three months ago. They never mentioned anything like this, which is why I was so blindsided by it. This did, indeed, pop up randomly as f***.
Executaball Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Golgo13 said: As I believe I mentioned earlier, MO2 provides an option for deleting those files. I'll screencap the options presented. I'm just nervous b/c MO2 has done some baffling (to me) things when I've deleted files from its menu in the past. Reveal hidden contents Yes, just go ahead and delete those files. So was the mod part of your original load order? And does a version of that mod still exist in your actual checkboxed load order? If not you should redownload and re-install those mod backups you are deleting back into your load order.
killer905 Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 10 hours ago, DSHV said: Just wait 2 days. Yes, it's okay, he just won't give his quests and that's it. 2.2.0 Public Release: Reveal hidden contents -Bug fixes; -Bearer of Unbearable Bears - Deal with Temba's new bear problem after bringing her bear pelts; -Pursuit of a Shadow - Start of your doppelganger’s questline. Speak to Fellrim the Beerbane in Riften, near Honeyside. Rework of its questions; -More dialogues for the Fattig’s friends; -Sex spells: Reveal hidden contents Summon Lusty Familiar (Ghost Wolf – Eternal Rider) – Blue Palace, on the table in the throne room; Summon Tasty Familiar (Ghost Horse – Meaty) - The Bannered Mare, in the deer on wall; Summon Nasty Familiar (Ghost Skeever - Lord) – Ratway Vaults, on split-up loot table; Summon Beasty Familiar (Ghost Bear – Honey Soul) – Bearer of Unbearable Bears quest; Summon Masty Familiar (Ghost Troll - Fatty) – Under Brelyna Maryon bed, Hall of Attainment. Dirty Mind – simple mind control spell - Midden, near Hides-In-Dark’s bedroll; Pocket Remorse (Vengeful Spirit) - Forgotten Regret, Revenge Room; -Slave Elisif for Ulfric – Speak to Elisif the Fair after Stormcloak’s win; -Small scene where Delvin is peeking Vex. Talk to Delvin to start, then go south from Merryfair Farm; -Fighting Pride - first in series of quests about Lydia improving her dear thane. Talk to her at Breezehome after you complained about your enslavement and remained a slave; -Splinters for Ass - Bold Nord twins in the Braidwood Inn, Kynesgrove you can take care of. Softer dominators than the rest of the mod's followers; -Prisoner Rehabilitation Program: Good ending for Ogre, twins Atael and Kayus, new prisoner - Wild Cat; -New quests and options to old Catherine's Whoring quests: The Annual Rite of Renewal, Red Room, Weird Place, Wrothgarian Mountains, Sanguine, Thalmor; -Quests for Calder, Bandit Queen (Ask any innkeeper for rumors), continuation of Jordis' saga - Hunters and Preys (3 werewolf pelts in the Falion home), all by killer905. -Serpent’s quest – Visitor: Inspector; -TroublesofHeroineSE2.2.0Merged by judge007. This version includes two add-ons. So I have already started working on Problems of Survival 1.1. I checked some of the new content, but: Shazira (?) She still wears Jordis dress even after we order her to give back to us. (She remains dressed) Aela is naked - I don't know if it's supposed to be like that on wildlands
marymuir2 Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 10 hours ago, DSHV said: Just wait 2 days. Yes, it's okay, he just won't give his quests and that's it. 2.2.0 Public Release: Hide contents -Bug fixes; -Bearer of Unbearable Bears - Deal with Temba's new bear problem after bringing her bear pelts; -Pursuit of a Shadow - Start of your doppelganger’s questline. Speak to Fellrim the Beerbane in Riften, near Honeyside. Rework of its questions; -More dialogues for the Fattig’s friends; -Sex spells: Hide contents Summon Lusty Familiar (Ghost Wolf – Eternal Rider) – Blue Palace, on the table in the throne room; Summon Tasty Familiar (Ghost Horse – Meaty) - The Bannered Mare, in the deer on wall; Summon Nasty Familiar (Ghost Skeever - Lord) – Ratway Vaults, on split-up loot table; Summon Beasty Familiar (Ghost Bear – Honey Soul) – Bearer of Unbearable Bears quest; Summon Masty Familiar (Ghost Troll - Fatty) – Under Brelyna Maryon bed, Hall of Attainment. Dirty Mind – simple mind control spell - Midden, near Hides-In-Dark’s bedroll; Pocket Remorse (Vengeful Spirit) - Forgotten Regret, Revenge Room; -Slave Elisif for Ulfric – Speak to Elisif the Fair after Stormcloak’s win; -Small scene where Delvin is peeking Vex. Talk to Delvin to start, then go south from Merryfair Farm; -Fighting Pride - first in series of quests about Lydia improving her dear thane. Talk to her at Breezehome after you complained about your enslavement and remained a slave; -Splinters for Ass - Bold Nord twins in the Braidwood Inn, Kynesgrove you can take care of. Softer dominators than the rest of the mod's followers; -Prisoner Rehabilitation Program: Good ending for Ogre, twins Atael and Kayus, new prisoner - Wild Cat; -New quests and options to old Catherine's Whoring quests: The Annual Rite of Renewal, Red Room, Weird Place, Wrothgarian Mountains, Sanguine, Thalmor; -Quests for Calder, Bandit Queen (Ask any innkeeper for rumors), continuation of Jordis' saga - Hunters and Preys (3 werewolf pelts in the Falion home), all by killer905. -Serpent’s quest – Visitor: Inspector; -TroublesofHeroineSE2.2.0Merged by judge007. This version includes two add-ons. So I have already started working on Problems of Survival 1.1. What is problems of survival?
edp554 Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) is the merged version standalone or does it need the non-merged one? still not sure exactly what the merged one is for Edited July 19, 2021 by daanish0250
Corsec Posted July 19, 2021 Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) Does this mod require a new game start, or can it be safely added to an ongoing savegame? And how safe is it to update to a newer version with an ongoing savegame? I'm aksing because this mod is still being developed and has frequent updates. I don't want to miss out by installing it with a new game now but miss out on updates later. Edited July 19, 2021 by Corsec
zhuguannan123 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 got the mod of FO4 and TOH is still updating? The dedication!
Alturistix Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 15 hours ago, Golgo13 said: It's in the mod's description page. It's not a "workaround," it's the way the mod author informs you to utilize the mod. MO2. Uhh, are you using SL anim loader? if so, did you register the anims? cause, i forgot to and my anims didnt run except for a few. And try creating a new game without SF framework, cause it conflicts with literally everything and is very fragile (when i used it). on my pc it caused lots of corrupt saves, and ruined my immersion cause of constant CTDs
judge007 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, DuskGuard said: Why is the merged version smaller in size? Merged version in .bsa unmerged version - loose figure it out
DSHV Posted July 20, 2021 Author Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, xyzxyz said: Anything new for dom male players? Dirty Mind spell, Slave Elisif for Ulfric, Delvin is peeking Vex, Hunters and Preys. Bearer of Unbearable Bears and Bandit Queen have submissive options, so watch out. 17 hours ago, executaball said: Do you have the NPC names for all child NPCs in ToH? 17 hours ago, judge007 said: Probably a question to ask @DSHV Only Pirve. Maybe someone uses the child's voicetype for fun, for example someone huge, but I'm not sure. 17 hours ago, xyzxyz said: The ghost bears sometimes disappear after 2 seconds of the animation. He must appear, do his dirty deed on Temba, and then disappear. And if he does not have time to disappear for the first time, he will still disappear by the timer. You can wait until he disappears before spekings with Temba. 16 hours ago, xyzxyz said: You need some extra dialogues for female bandit subjects in Bandit Queen. Yes, I overlooked that they are random bandits and can be women. 9 hours ago, killer905 said: Shazira (?) She still wears Jordis dress even after we order her to give back to us. (She remains dressed) Aela is naked - I don't know if it's supposed to be like that on wildlands Strange, it's should work. It's just simple akSpeaker.RemoveItem(Clothes, 1) code. Aela is based on real Aela and using her inventory. Maybe your real Aela naked too? 9 hours ago, marymuir2 said: What is problems of survival? Fallout 4's version of TOH. 6 hours ago, Corsec said: Does this mod require a new game start, or can it be safely added to an ongoing savegame? And how safe is it to update to a newer version with an ongoing savegame? No, pretty save to install and unistall. This mod just adds new NPCs and quests, no ongoing heavy scripts. The only problem can be the mod's perks, but it's should be fine too - they all positive and not change base actor's values. 4 hours ago, zhuguannan123 said: got the mod of FO4 and TOH is still updating? The dedication! Yes, I decided to alternate them for now. Edited July 20, 2021 by DSHV Grammar
judge007 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, daanish0250 said: is the merged version standalone or does it need the non-merged one? still not sure exactly what the merged one is for Merged version DOESN'T require previous version Merged with the Troubles of Heroine Dawnguard & Bragonborn Plugins @DSHV it's standalone & the reason it's smaller is it's in BSA, was loose file when I got it Edited July 20, 2021 by judge007 1
Corsec Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, DSHV said: No, pretty save to install and unistall. This mod just adds new NPCs and quests, no ongoing heavy scripts. The only problem can be the mod's perks, but it's should be fine too - they all positive and not change base actor's values. Thanks for the response. I was wondering because I've already joined the Companions. If I join the Companions and then install TOH, will that then break the Sexist Companions quest?
DSHV Posted July 20, 2021 Author Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Corsec said: If I join the Companions and then install TOH, will that then break the Sexist Companions quest? No, Aela gives these quests in random order.
killer905 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 5 hours ago, DSHV said: Strange, it's should work. It's just simple akSpeaker.RemoveItem(Clothes, 1) code. Aela is based on real Aela and using her inventory. Maybe your real Aela naked too? LE: https://redgifs.com/watch/frighteningrevolvingvirginiaopossum And well this time Aela had armor so script not load property i think.
DSHV Posted July 20, 2021 Author Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, killer905 said: https://redgifs.com/watch/frighteningrevolvingvirginiaopossum She wears ClothesFarmClothesVariant02 in her outfit. And the same clothes are removed. I checked it several times. I don’t know what’s wrong. As a last resort, I can make her naked and dress her when spawning, but then she will walk naked, even if PC leaves her clothes on.
killer905 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 1 hour ago, DSHV said: She wears ClothesFarmClothesVariant02 in her outfit. And the same clothes are removed. I checked it several times. I don’t know what’s wrong. As a last resort, I can make her naked and dress her when spawning, but then she will walk naked, even if PC leaves her clothes on. hmm, i check ID clothing what she have and what she gime 0006c1d9 so totaly strange with this.
Executaball Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) Hey all, Just to update here: Updated voice pack for Troubles of Heroine v2.2.0 in Generation 2 is now live. The file size is much reduced from 7.08GB → 1.94GB (Around 72% smaller) due to greatly reduced redundant lines. Quality and pronunciation models are improved. I've attached some samples beneath in the zip so you can have a try, I've included one example of two voice lines both from Gen 1.3 and the new Gen 2 model. Enjoy and let me know if you encounter any problems ^^ ToH v2.2.0 Gen2 Samples.zip Edited July 20, 2021 by Executaball 5
Golgo13 Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) On 7/19/2021 at 1:21 PM, Executaball said: Yes, just go ahead and delete those files. So was the mod part of your original load order? And does a version of that mod still exist in your actual checkboxed load order? If not you should redownload and re-install those mod backups you are deleting back into your load order. All but one of those mods was in my original load order. Specifically, I really wanted to try "Serana Dialogue Add-on," but deleted it after I took a peek at all of the ToH content and saw that they could possibly conflict. That didn't cause this issue at the time, and I was already having the primary issue of losing control of my character at the time I installed it when a sex scene was compelled by ToH immediately after some other ToH command. Moreover, I still only suspect that they could be incompatible. I'm mentioning it, however, because of my suspicions that it could, somehow, some way, be implicated as a secondary (or tertiary, etc.,) cause of my issues. Everything I've ever downloaded-- whether I never checked the box to install the mod, at all, or if I unticked it-- has remained as an unchecked box on the menu, until now. That is, unless I completely deleted it from the menu, in which case I've had various results seemingly based on the Wheel of Chance: from what's happening, now, to being "installed" despite absence from the menu. Hence, my hesitance to outright delete things from the menu if I can at all help it. As long as it remains on the menu, at least I maintain some control over it. But, no, other than the untickable box versions, no visible trace remains of those particular mods. I came here seeking advice; you were kind enough to offer it to me, so, WTH... the absolute worst that could happen is I have to do what I was on the verge of doing, anyway; and if you're actually advising it, I can most likely relieve myself of concern about that contingency. Thx, as always, for the assistance. Edited July 20, 2021 by Golgo13 Awkward wording.
Executaball Posted July 20, 2021 Posted July 20, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Golgo13 said: from what's happening, now, to being "installed" despite absence from the menu. Uhm... Okay... So, you're saying you have unticked / removed mods within MO2 and you've experienced them still being installed in your game? That is... really strange. I'm not even sure to begin to speculate on how that occurred. But regardless, we'll try to figure out how to fix your ToH and character control issues for now. I'm curious - how did you build your load order? Did you install a light base and add on heavier mods one at a time? Or did you create that load order of yours all in one go? The problem here is that the first step to most troubleshooting of Skyrim mods is to figure what mod is causing the issues you are having. Since now you are experiencing issues when using Troubles of Heroine but from the sounds of things your issue has nothing to do with Troubles of Heroine itself or a direct conflict with it and another mod, it's something much more nuanced, and likely ToH's script load just tipped your load order / save file over the breaking point. We can do more digging if you provide me your papyrus log at the time of the problem, and we can go over and monitor your tickrate, but honestly this will take much longer than simply starting a new profile on MO2, having a very light load order, and start testing the game for stability from there. You need to know what works before being able to tell what doesn't work. So disable everything but Sexlab and a few frameworks for example, do LOOT and FNIS, (don't worry about any merging and patching, there's no point complicating things if you're experiencing issues this major, we can worry about optimization later), then launch a new game from the start menu, test and make sure everything works. Then exit, enable some more mods, again LOOT and FNIS, and another new game to test for stability. Then by the end, load everything that is stable, create a new game and play from there. Ideally not adding / removing any mods during your playthrough. The reason for this: 1. Very likely that your method of disabling all mods and saving has done irreparable damage to your save file. 2. I'm not sure your original load order was stable to begin with, I'm not sure what compatibilities there are from the information right now. Just in general right now, since you want to play Troubles of Heroine, what your goal is right now, should be to establish a minimum working load order just to get Troubles of Heroine running, then you can add more mods for personal preference afterwards. Then as you add, you will discover what mods are or are not compatible with ToH. You are doing the reverse right now of dropping ToH into a load order with maybe 10+ incompatibilities you don't know about, then trying to reverse-engineer the incompatibilities. (To be fair, I didn't do this, like you I also added ToH to my existing load order, which you absolutely can do, just make sure you are aware that it will be a lot more difficult to try to find incompatibilities if you don't know exactly how your load order works and what kind of script load and record edits your mods are doing.) Also, I can't really find the post where you put up your load order, but I remember seeing quite a few mods there I personally wouldn't consider using for stability reasons. I'm not sure when you got into the whole SE thing, but many older mods that were hastily converted over from LE (and especially ones not done by the mod author) are extremely unstable, and many have new dedicated SE versions available. Also if I recall correctly your mod order (left list of MO2) looked pretty weird in terms of order. For now, before anything else, can you just send me a few screenshots of the left side list of your MO2? Edited July 20, 2021 by Executaball 1
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