OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, AthenaESIV said:

Heyo Osmel o/

 

Was reading you had concerns with SLSO and beta9, have you happened across Ed's update he posted yesterday for SLSO yet?

 

Just waiting on your recommendation on that beta + SLb9 + SL Utility +   Thanks for all your awesome mods!

 

I haven't checked the new SLSO but for the description should be safe. 

If you want to use the SLU+ remember that the SLU+ files can't be override by any Mod

 

[Guest AthenaESIV]

1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

If you want to use the SLU+ remember that the SLU+ files can't be override by any Mod

 

 

I would NEVER!

 

Edited August 9, 2021 by AthenaESIV

[fantajoakkh]

About v20210807

 

Lip sync - lip movement is too short, too small and not smooth. lip movement is better when SUP is not installed.

 

Camera shake - The screen does not shake even if set to a value higher than 0.

Edited August 13, 2021 by fantajoakkh

[OsmelMC]

8 hours ago, fantajoakkh said:

About v20210807

 

Lip sync - lip movement is too short, too small and not smooth. lip movement is better when SUP is not installed.

 

Camera shake - The screen does not shake even if set to a value higher than 0.

First: the camera shake is just when the player cum in first person. And of course you have to enable the "Use Cum" option or none of the cum related effects will work.

 

Second: the LipSync now have few options you can configure to make it more at your personal taste with all the possible consequences that comes with that.

 

The LipSync advanced configuration is on the "Expression Editor" page, you have to make Click on the "To Edit the OpenMouth & Lip Sync" option and the lipSync advanced configuration will be showed at the end of the page.

Edited August 13, 2021 by OsmelMC

[Lilzt3hcat]

Just tried out the latest update, seems to fix all the problems I was having earlier. Thank you.

[fantajoakkh]

12 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

First: the camera shake is just when the player cum in first person. And of course you have to enable the "Use Cum" option or none of the cum related effects will work.

 

Second: the LipSync now have few options you can configure to make it more at your personal taste with all the possible consequences that comes with that.

 

The LipSync advanced configuration is on the "Expression Editor" page, you have to make Click on the "To Edit the OpenMouth & Lip Sync" option and the lipSync advanced configuration will be showed at the end of the page.

 

 

Thank you. Your answer was helpful.

[OsmelMC]

Good news. I finally got the Skyrim SE.

[adminIsFucker]

FNIS Sexy Move Patch doesn't work for me in LE. The behaviour is exactly the same as without it.

 

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, adminIsFucker said:

FNIS Sexy Move Patch doesn't work for me in LE. The behaviour is exactly the same as without it.

 

The patch is just for "ZaZ Animations Pack" and "Devious Device Integration", so this patch won't be helpful if another Mod is interfering with the walk Idles.

 

To be properly installed need:

 

1. You must have the "ZaZ Animations Pack" or/and "Devious Device Integration" already installed and enabled before install the patch. That way the setup will detect the correct version to install.

 

2. You also need the original "FNIS Sexy Move" installed and enabled.

 

3. Make sure that the Patch files be overriding the files of the original "FNIS Sexy Move".

 

 

[agiz19]

23 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

First: the camera shake is just when the player cum in first person. And of course you have to enable the "Use Cum" option or none of the cum related effects will work.

 

Second: the LipSync now have few options you can configure to make it more at your personal taste with all the possible consequences that comes with that.

 

The LipSync advanced configuration is on the "Expression Editor" page, you have to make Click on the "To Edit the OpenMouth & Lip Sync" option and the lipSync advanced configuration will be showed at the end of the page.

hey these are some nice additions but after quite some testing different parameters and options I can confirm that lipsync transition and every expression and open mouth are just not smooth well nonexistent, it goes like this : Expression plays - then mouth opens like 15% - then audio moan plays and mouth opens as defined in open mouth section and closes when audio is over without any kind of transition its just these 3 steps of 3 stages repeating over in cut cut cut fashion - there is no transition between expressions or open mouth/lipsync regardless of what settings put in, with other 2 options in lipsync mouth  doesnt even open ever just audio plays but expressions change in the same fashion described above , I will upload a video soon to get the better idea since its quite hard to describe this... In last version prior to 07082021 the mouth didnt open as well when the moans played and i switched your voice script with the one from here 

  and transitions were smooth except the moans played every other mouth opening.

 

EDIT: pics of settings and ingame scene example - moan plays 2-3 times(her current SLSO bar is at 90%) its quite quiet but it doesnt matter mouth keeps opening regardless the audio is played or not(sometimes hot moans are played sometimes mild after SLSO bar is more than 30% full)

 

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

 

Edited August 14, 2021 by agiz19

[OsmelMC]

@agiz19

 

The Moaning and the Lips Sync have none practical solution. 

 

If you was here for the last months, you may be seen the debate about this subject.

 

Like I said many times the Lips Sync new options will not fix any of the sync issues because can't be fixed without make useless and incompatible all the currently available SexLab Voices Mods. 

 

The new options will only allow you change the behavior of the moaning in order to make it less wrong.

 

By the way the Default configuration is the same LipSync that comes with the original SexLab and changing the configuration will change the Lips behavior in all the possible ways.

 

When I said "All the possible ways" is all the possible ways. Skyrim comes with just few functions to control the audio (basically play and stop) I can't even know the duration of the audio. Still I managed to bring you all the possible combinations of those functions in just few options.

 

You have to read all the discussion about the SyncLips and the Expressions if you want to know the details. All the issues you are noticing are already explained and even with suggested solutions.

 

WARNING: The scripts of my SexLab Utility Plus can't be replaced by any other Mod, not even a previous version of the SLU+. That will cause many script errors and some things will stop working or even CTD.

 

 

I cleaned my hands like Pontius Pilate...

 

 

Edited August 14, 2021 by OsmelMC

[agiz19]

1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

@agiz19

 

The Moaning and the Lips Sync have none practical solution. 

 

If you was here for the last months, you may be seen the debate about this subject.

 

Like I said many times the Lips Sync new options will not fix any of the sync issues because can't be fixed without make useless and incompatible all the currently available SexLab Voices Mods. 

 

The new options will only allow you change the behavior of the moaning in order to make it less wrong.

 

By the way the Default configuration is the same LipSync that comes with the original SexLab and changing the configuration will change the Lips behavior in all the possible ways.

 

When I said "All the possible ways" is all the possible ways. Skyrim comes with just few functions to control the audio (basically play and stop) I can't even know the duration of the audio. Still I managed to bring you all the possible combinations of those functions in just few options.

 

You have to read all the discussion about the SyncLips and the Expressions if you want to know the details. All the issues you are noticing are already explained and even with suggested solutions.

 

 

 

 

I cleaned my hands like Pontius Pilate...

 

well I am around  but I havent seen any debates about this subject nor solutions....And the problem is not the sync I can live with audio moan not playing each time when mouth opens it doesnt bother much(I could say its more realistic) but its quite annoying when the mouth doesnt open/close smoothly like it did before 2 versions back, also Im using a custom voice I put together from various audio files which are all 2seconds long and 1.2 second option makes lips and audio sync to the dot when audio is played on all  type of  moans every other number I tried was out of sync in my case- and this is not the problem I was describing, the thing is mouth open/close regardless of the size or shape of the mouth opening was always a smooth transition with SLU+ until june and august versions now its not as shown in the video if you only look closely at opening/closing of the mouth is just not smooth( ignore the audio and sync and expression). 

 

Ill just try replacing voice pex file with the old one from the thread I linked above that was working smoothly.

 

Edit: Using slBaseVoice.pex from The Still Prevalent Lip Sync Issue thread solves the mouth animation and it is smoothly transitioning from one to the other.

Also no issues or CTDs, all your functions from open mouth/lipsync work without issues. As I said I was using this pex file for every version of SLU+ before except june version had some minor issues with audio not playing each time, just now august version as you said: 

• Prevent the Moaning for enjoyment lesser than 30 because the lips almost don't move under that value and is better just prevent the moaning  - after 30 enjoyment everything is in sync when audio plays and when reaching 80/90 enjoyment each opening of the mouth plays the moan

Edited August 14, 2021 by agiz19

[a117]

Great mod:) I use it all the time!
This has been the case with every Ver for Utility. They seem to like gaps in the walls, sometimes happens by furniture. Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
 

[adminIsFucker]

11 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

The patch is just for "ZaZ Animations Pack" and "Devious Device Integration", so this patch won't be helpful if another Mod is interfering with the walk Idles.

 

To be properly installed need:

 

1. You must have the "ZaZ Animations Pack" or/and "Devious Device Integration" already installed and enabled before install the patch. That way the setup will detect the correct version to install.

 

2. You also need the original "FNIS Sexy Move" installed and enabled.

 

3. Make sure that the Patch files be overriding the files of the original "FNIS Sexy Move".

 

 

Done all three.

I had issues with Dynamic Animations Replacer, but unlike FNIS Sexy Move, it resets to proper state when I reload.

FNIS SM, on the other hand, just loses it completely, with or without this patch.

 

I've looked at the script code, only difference I see is GetRef being replaced with GetActorRef, no additional conditions when executing SetAnimGroup.

How about running something like

bool Function IsWearingRestraints()
    return PlayerRef.IsEquipped(<armbinder reference>) || PlayerRef.IsEquipped(<yoke reference>)
EndFunction

before setting new animation?

Edited August 15, 2021 by adminIsFucker

[XarisZ]

In the Fomod the option Extra(without animations) means without the original SL animations?
Description doesnt say anything.

[OsmelMC]

11 hours ago, a117 said:

Great mod:) I use it all the time!
This has been the case with every Ver for Utility. They seem to like gaps in the walls, sometimes happens by furniture. Is there anything I can do to prevent this?
 

 

The problem here is the table. Those tables are not really furnitures and even when have a front and back side most of the time the author's of the room don't care about that and place the table's at any position.

 

You can rotate the tables with this issue using the console before be used again. The command is something about angle

[OsmelMC]

4 hours ago, XarisZ said:

In the Fomod the option Extra(without animations) means without the original SL animations?
Description doesnt say anything.

 

Without Animations means that the limit on the amount of Animations won't be changed. That option was necessary because some user can't use the version that expand the amount of Animations beyond the 1000

 

[OsmelMC]

6 hours ago, adminIsFucker said:

Done all three.

I had issues with Dynamic Animations Replacer, but unlike FNIS Sexy Move, it resets to proper state when I reload.

FNIS SM, on the other hand, just loses it completely, with or without this patch.

 

I've looked at the script code, only difference I see is GetRef being replaced with GetActorRef, no additional conditions when executing SetAnimGroup.

How about running something like

bool Function IsWearingRestraints()
    return PlayerRef.IsEquipped(<armbinder reference>) || PlayerRef.IsEquipped(<yoke reference>)
EndFunction

before setting new animation?

The script file is just to fix one error made by the author of the Mod. The patch is on the ESP file.

 

If you are using Dynamic Animation Replacer is almost sure that some of the mods related is the responsable, and you will need a patch for that Mod too.

[awy7903qt6]

Sexlab Utility Plus does not seem to be compatible with SLSO.

SLSO gauges are not moving.

 

My load order looks like this

SexLab Beta 9

Sexlab Aroused Redux SSE

SLSO

SLSU+

2000 Slots

[Lilzt3hcat]

Expressions are fine for me now after tweeking.

But... even on a new game I'm getting regular crashes while saving since updating. >_<

 

16 Aug 07:28:14 Game has crashed with exception address 0x672B10! - seems to occur randomly sometime shortly after a scene has played and the game is saved, be it auto or normal (or if something causes a save while in a scene).

 

 

Edit: Yeah went back to an old save with v20210217 and I no longer get that crash or at least if it does to happen its vastly more rare (Hasn't happened so far).

Edited August 17, 2021 by Lilzt3hcat

[OsmelMC]

10 hours ago, Lilzt3hcat said:

Expressions are fine for me now after tweeking.

But... even on a new game I'm getting regular crashes while saving since updating. >_<

 

16 Aug 07:28:14 Game has crashed with exception address 0x672B10! - seems to occur randomly sometime shortly after a scene has played and the game is saved, be it auto or normal (or if something causes a save while in a scene).

 

 

Edit: Yeah went back to an old save with v20210217 and I no longer get that crash or at least if it does to happen its vastly more rare (Hasn't happened so far).

 

Just clean the save with ReSaver.

That type of crash report is usually related with corrupted save or DLL files issues.

If you are using SE update to BETA 9 and don't let the BETA 9 files be overriding by any Mod except SLU+. The PapyrusUtil on the BETA 9 is newer than the officially released and seems to crash when is override by the previous version. 

 

[Lilzt3hcat]

4 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

 

Just clean the save with ReSaver.

That type of crash report is usually related with corrupted save or DLL files issues.

If you are using SE update to BETA 9 and don't let the BETA 9 files be overriding by any Mod except SLU+. The PapyrusUtil on the BETA 9 is newer than the officially released and seems to crash when is override by the previous version. 

 

Using LE, and sadly like I said even was happening with a new game. ☹️

[OsmelMC]

4 hours ago, Lilzt3hcat said:

Using LE, and sadly like I said even was happening with a new game. ☹️

Send me the Papyrus log.

[Gudulba]

Armbinders on NPCs don't seem to work anymore after updating from SexLab Beta 8 to Beta 9 (at least that's when I started noticing it). -> see screenshot in spoiler section

 

Beta 8 without your FNIS Sexy Move (Patch): armbinders were sometimes working correctly

Beta 8 with your FNIS Sexy Move (Patch): armbinders were always working correctly

Beta 9 with your FNIS Sexy Move (Patch): armbinders never work

 

What could be the cause?

 

Spoiler

 

 

[OsmelMC]

8 hours ago, Gudulba said:

Armbinders on NPCs don't seem to work anymore after updating from SexLab Beta 8 to Beta 9 (at least that's when I started noticing it). -> see screenshot in spoiler section

 

Beta 8 without your FNIS Sexy Move (Patch): armbinders were sometimes working correctly

Beta 8 with your FNIS Sexy Move (Patch): armbinders were always working correctly

Beta 9 with your FNIS Sexy Move (Patch): armbinders never work

 

What could be the cause?

 

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SexLab and the Device Idles are not related in any way. You can try running the FNIS again but the picture in your comment is from the NPC and the NPC's are know for have issues with the DD Idles because they use spells to start the idle and that method use to fail a lot.

 

Are you tried my Fix for the DD 5.1? One of the fixes on the Fix is related with the spell that affect the NPC's