All things Cyberpunk 2077 General Thread

[ss4141]

53 minutes ago, ValkyrieSins said:

I don't think you understand what a single player story driven game is. And I'd like for you to point out at least 5 games that match Cyberpunk 2077, Elder Scrolls, Witcher, Fallout, Mess Effect, Dragon Age, that also include an endgame that you can repeatedly farm after beating the entire story. 

 

And I hope you don't attempt to point out games that have Newgame plus as "endgame"
Please, I will be waiting.

 

I will not explain over and over to someone doesnt want to understand what is the meaning of end game content. Its Mass Effect btw lol. Again  If 70-80 hours of play is worth waiting 8 years for you i have nothing to say.

Edit: I couldnt stop myself. Do you know how many hours needed to complete Skyrim with all side quests? Or Witcher? These are the games dont need end game content because they give enough time to play and enjoy the game. They are no match with CP2077

[EnferIain]

Why argue about singleplayer endgame when you can just play Warzone? POGGERS

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Icekream said:

I mean cmon, people are fine with ubisoft bioware and ea releasing the same game with a different skin each time. On top of that how many times does skyrim need to rerelease for people to see the industry is running out of ideas for sandbox rpgs?

I don't think the industry is running out of ideas but I have to take exception to calling these games sandboxes, they're themeparks with a half-sandbox really, with that said I think the people in suits are holding it back with their desire to never ever deviate from the existing successful formulas. Breath of the Wild demonstrated that you could make the open world in these kinds of games feel drastically different and I feel quite strongly that true-sandbox RPGs will eventually become a mainstay in the genre eventually -- they just haven't been properly explored with a AAA budget yet. Mount and Blade / Bannerlord while weak in an RPG sense show promise for that kind of format, people want to simply occupy a living breathing changing world where their story and experience is truly emergent. This desire for emergent storytelling I think is also seen in many other games, Minecraft, Dwarf Fortress and Rimworld for example. Exploration of a world and the mechanics of that world giving the player a story as opposed to anything else.

 

5 hours ago, Icekream said:

I think the bar for games has significantly lowered since early access became a thing. I get people are disappointed with cyberpunk, but if you remove the hype or expectations of the game and look at it in a vacuum, back in 2012-16, everyone would have loved it. Now it's just an average game with a fun template, which most new games are at this point.

Not really sure about this. I think all the critiques of the sandbox would still exist... But you're right that the expectations would be lower. People are now at a stage where they expect an advancement on Skyrim and GTA5 from a AAA title. Nor does it help that this world's sandbox feels worse than Witcher 3 due to the poor AI, GTA has set expectations for basic interactions people expect within a city game such as reactive ambulance and police callouts when things happen in the world, and far far better traffic.

It doesn't help that RDR2 has been a thing that actually does take a step forwards. Meeting all the basic expectations of the genre while also delivering that cinematic immersiveness on top.

[Bazinga]

4 hours ago, ss4141 said:

I will not explain over and over to someone doesnt want to understand what is the meaning of end game content. Its Mass Effect btw lol. Again  If 70-80 hours of play is worth waiting 8 years for you i have nothing to say.

Boy aren't we entitled. ?

[ValkyrieSins]

6 hours ago, ss4141 said:

I will not explain over and over to someone doesnt want to understand what is the meaning of end game content. Its Mass Effect btw lol. Again  If 70-80 hours of play is worth waiting 8 years for you i have nothing to say.

Edit: I couldnt stop myself. Do you know how many hours needed to complete Skyrim with all side quests? Or Witcher? These are the games dont need end game content because they give enough time to play and enjoy the game. They are no match with CP2077

Ah, so with your own logic then, Horizon Zero Dawn is a trash game because it only took 60-70 hours to 100%? Or breath of the WIld which took about 80 hours. Or how bout Bioshock, a game that's considered a master piece, that takes 15 hours to complete, or how bout all the Metal Gear Solid games that take 20-30 hours to complete.

 

Your logic is so stupid it's incredible that you are even trying to argue that 70-80 hours isn't worth it. There are hundreds of games that are master pieces that take 10-30 hours to complete, there are hundreds of games that are widely considered as great games that take 60-70 hours to complete.

 

Quit acting like an entitled brat just because the game didn't live up to the hype for you

[ss4141]

59 minutes ago, ValkyrieSins said:

Ah, so with your own logic then, Horizon Zero Dawn is a trash game because it only took 60-70 hours to 100%? Or breath of the WIld which took about 80 hours. Or how bout Bioshock, a game that's considered a master piece, that takes 15 hours to complete, or how bout all the Metal Gear Solid games that take 20-30 hours to complete.

 

Your logic is so stupid it's incredible that you are even trying to argue that 70-80 hours isn't worth it. There are hundreds of games that are master pieces that take 10-30 hours to complete, there are hundreds of games that are widely considered as great games that take 60-70 hours to complete.

 

Quit acting like an entitled brat just because the game didn't live up to the hype for you

This is my last replay. I am getting sick of arguing with a cp2077 fanatic. Mgs and Bioshock are not same genre and you know how many hours to finish the game before buying. I dont understand why do you mindlessly defending the game even my first comment was a "suggestion" Do you know what is a suggestion before defending anything? I wasnt saying the game is bad or trash. I was saying it needs more content to keep players. What is wrong with you to cant get right. Anyway say what you want. I am done.

[ValkyrieSins]

1 hour ago, ss4141 said:

This is my last replay. I am getting sick of arguing with a cp2077 fanatic. Mgs and Bioshock are not same genre and you know how many hours to finish the game before buying. I dont understand why do you mindlessly defending the game even my first comment was a "suggestion" Do you know what is a suggestion before defending anything? I wasnt saying the game is bad or trash. I was saying it needs more content to keep players. What is wrong with you to cant get right. Anyway say what you want. I am done.

Cyberpunk 2077 takes around 70-90 hours to complete, that's more content than Horizon Zero Dawn which takes 60 hours to complete, that's more content than Breath of the Wild to complete, both games are arguably BETTER than Cyberpunk 2077. Why aren't you complaining about those games? Breath of the Wild was all about running around and collecting seeds, yet everyone is okay with that.

 

Your argument and suggestions literally make no sense at all and falls in on it's self if you have any type of gaming knowledge.

[ToJKa]

So, turns out it also has a save file corruption bug.

Some say it happens if you have more than 65535 items in a single playtrough (game runs out item IDs), others say it happens when save file size reaches 8MB.

 

Whatever the case, shouldn't be an issues if you don't abuse crafting.

[FauxFurry]

1 hour ago, ToJKa said:

So, turns out it also has a save file corruption bug.

Some say it happens if you have more than 65535 items in a single playtrough (game runs out item IDs), others say it happens when save file size reaches 8MB.

 

Whatever the case, shouldn't be an issues if you don't abuse crafting.

I have save files from The Sims 4 the are hundreds of MB. I think that one reached 1 GB. The Sims 4 is still a 32-bit executable (on Windows, anyway).

There really is no reason to have such puny save file limits in a 2020 game. 

[FauxFurry]

A lot of the disappointment resulting from more unreasonable expectations could have been avoided had people just listened to this guy here:

 

[landess]

"Player Expectation"

 

I believe that says more than anything else concerning this title. I saw the trailer for it a few years ago. The cinematic one - then I ignored the game pretty much till I bought it. I don't have thoughts, feelings, or EXPECTATIONS beyond it being able to run on my system, which it does almost flawlessly. A few graphical issues do crop up on extended play sessions a quick save/load fix every time.

 

I never watched video's, or skulked around forum's much in the way of 'camping' the game launch. My own restraint in this has proven to me this was the best way to approach the whole thing since I have been quite satisfied with my purchase and experience. Sorry for people so caught up in the Media, be it promotional or social, that now have them bent over so hard without lube they continuously cry out in pain.

 

As for some of the things mentioned like a save game memory cap or other minor graphical problems, I do hope they get most of it squared away soon. The mention of 'multiplayer' does make my eyes do 360's in their sockets though.... Fuckin' multiplayer!

 

 

[FauxFurry]

7 hours ago, landess said:

"Player Expectation"

 

I believe that says more than anything else concerning this title. I saw the trailer for it a few years ago. The cinematic one - then I ignored the game pretty much till I bought it. I don't have thoughts, feelings, or EXPECTATIONS beyond it being able to run on my system, which it does almost flawlessly. A few graphical issues do crop up on extended play sessions a quick save/load fix every time.

 

I never watched video's, or skulked around forum's much in the way of 'camping' the game launch. My own restraint in this has proven to me this was the best way to approach the whole thing since I have been quite satisfied with my purchase and experience. Sorry for people so caught up in the Media, be it promotional or social, that now have them bent over so hard without lube they continuously cry out in pain.

 

As for some of the things mentioned like a save game memory cap or other minor graphical problems, I do hope they get most of it squared away soon. The mention of 'multiplayer' does make my eyes do 360's in their sockets though.... Fuckin' multiplayer!

 

 

Hype is one of the most dangerous controlled substances due to its effects on one's perceptions of reality as well as its toxicity. It is smart to never start.

[Fyourcouch]

man you guys arguing about which game is better, im just here for some CG titties and waiting for skyrim sex slaves to get ported to cyberpunk

[iguchi]

Even without hype the game is not up to par. You guys are being ridiculous. 

 

The game as far as open world content goes, offers less than any triple A open world game we have seen in the past 20 years and even some indies. Think I am exaggerating?

 

The way traffic, pedestrian and police AI and general functionalities is a work of amateurs. The police spawning near the player when he commits a crime is pathetic and even worse that it trigger during gun fights that the player didn't even initiate and affects only the player. No open world game has such an unprofessional looking game design, you can name any of them - Sleeping Dogs, Saints Row, GTA, any of the shit that Ubisoft makes, Yakuza/Ryuu ga gotoku. GTA 1 in 1997 with the top down view had the open world done more competently in many, many ways.

 

We are at a point where you can't say implementing these things is hard, because it has been done better by literally any company that has ever attempted it. I think we might be able to find open world games with better designed open world elements in some indie games made by 1 guy who still lives with his parents.

 

And that is just one thing out of a list of things that we can say about this game that are not only done bad from a game design perspective, but that are done without the bare minimum competency expected.

 

I'm not talking about hype or expecting the game to be the best thing in the universe and perfect. We talking basics, fundamentals. The simple things we expect to be in there. 

 

The game feels like a huge waste of potential mostly everywhere you look at it. It's like in every corner of the map there is something interesting, but also couldn't help but think this could have been so much more. Hopefully CDPR opens up their game for modding, I think the incentives to do this have become larger now, they are aware that this is a highly requested thing and at this point they might need to do what they can to gain back some sort of .

With some mods on Nexus reaching the 20 million downloads mark, they should make this game mod friendly. 

[Cozza]

 

Even without hype the game is not up to par. You guys are being ridiculous. 

 

The game as far as open world content goes, offers less than any triple A open world game we have seen in the past 20 years and even some indies. Think I am exaggerating?

 

The way traffic, pedestrian and police AI and general functionalities is a work of amateurs. The police spawning near the player when he commits a crime is pathetic and even worse that it trigger during gun fights that the player didn't even initiate and affects only the player. No open world game has such an unprofessional looking game design, you can name any of them - Sleeping Dogs, Saints Row, GTA, any of the shit that Ubisoft makes, Yakuza/Ryuu ga gotoku. GTA 1 in 1997 with the top down view had the open world done more competently in many, many ways.

 

We are at a point where you can't say implementing these things is hard, because it has been done better by literally any company that has ever attempted it. I think we might be able to find open world games with better designed open world elements in some indie games made by 1 guy who still lives with his parents.

 

And that is just one thing out of a list of things that we can say about this game that are not only done bad from a game design perspective, but that are done without the bare minimum competency expected.

 

I'm not talking about hype or expecting the game to be the best thing in the universe and perfect. We talking basics, fundamentals. The simple things we expect to be in there. 

 

The game feels like a huge waste of potential mostly everywhere you look at it. It's like in every corner of the map there is something interesting, but also couldn't help but think this could have been so much more. Hopefully CDPR opens up their game for modding, I think the incentives to do this have become larger now, they are aware that this is a highly requested thing and at this point they might need to do what they can to gain back some sort of .

With some mods on Nexus reaching the 20 million downloads mark, they should make this game mod friendly. 

 

Well they did mention in the 1.05 patch notes info coming soon.

Removed debug console to prevent functions that could lead to crashes or blocked quests. This doesn't mean we don't want to support the modding community. Stay tuned for more info on that.

Guess we will wait and see. I hope they do allow full modding, it would be the easier option to quiet the fans complaints about the world lacking interactivity. Probably less work too.

 

[Kpnut]

 

A lot of the disappointment resulting from more unreasonable expectations could have been avoided had people just listened to this guy here:

 

 

 

"Player Expectation"

 

I believe that says more than anything else concerning this title. I saw the trailer for it a few years ago. The cinematic one - then I ignored the game pretty much till I bought it. I don't have thoughts, feelings, or EXPECTATIONS beyond it being able to run on my system, which it does almost flawlessly. A few graphical issues do crop up on extended play sessions a quick save/load fix every time.

 

I never watched video's, or skulked around forum's much in the way of 'camping' the game launch. My own restraint in this has proven to me this was the best way to approach the whole thing since I have been quite satisfied with my purchase and experience. Sorry for people so caught up in the Media, be it promotional or social, that now have them bent over so hard without lube they continuously cry out in pain.

 

As for some of the things mentioned like a save game memory cap or other minor graphical problems, I do hope they get most of it squared away soon. The mention of 'multiplayer' does make my eyes do 360's in their sockets though.... Fuckin' multiplayer!

 

 

Same here, I watched the gameplay video and then promptly forgot the game was even in development until around August this year when a mate reminded me of it and while it could definitely use some improvements I've overall enjoyed my time with the game. At least the multiplayer is going to be spearate to the single player a la GTA online or Red Dead online.

[MarikoSha]

I love this game  

I´m not a hardcore gamer or someone who digs into forums or gaming news.

But I love the cyberpunk scheme.

 

So I got the game without barely knowing anything about it except for basic informations, some screens and - of course - if it might probably run on my system.

So I got it a few days ago...

 

Sure, even I notice some bugs but for linking into another world for a few hours this game gives me everything I need.

I like the atmosphere of NC, the characters and their background and how it affects me and this whole cyber-dystopia thing.....

I can spend hours just traveling around, watching everything what happens and just playing side missions without progressing the main plot...

Maybe there could be a little more adult stuff but I don't want to blame the developer for cutting that down for mainstream compatibility  

 

I love it!  

[Aria]

This guy has a great take on it.

 

[landess]

 

The simple things we expect to be in there.

 

 

"Player Expectation"

 

I believe that says more than anything else concerning this title.

Thank you for 'proving my point'.

 

 

[iguchi]

 

 

Thank you for 'proving my point'.

 

 

 

Oh whoopsie... I said that I had expectations. So you must be right then isn't it? Damn.

You still paid triple A money for what is a very recent release and with that you definitely expected triple A quality - or I guess maybe not isn't it. You expected nothing. Read nothing about it before buying. Knew nothing about it. First open world game you ever played in your life too I guess, so nothing to expect out of an open world game that just released, since you can't compare it with anything.

You didn't know anything about the game before buying it, but I hope now you figured the reason why what you are saying is dumb.

 

I'm sorry man, but that kind of argument is just excusing developers who release games in a subpar condition and subpar not only concerning bugs and crashes. 

 

By the way the game looks amazing. It is visually impressive, you can keep posting pictures of it. Too bad they didn't let them finish it. And now their reputation is gone straight into the mud, with lawsuits, refunds and game pulled off the store. Sizzle then crash and burn. These companies are never gonna change and keep doing that kind of thing and you are here to ensure that too, I guess.

 

Now hopefully they let us mod the shit out of this, so the community can try to do what they couldn't and also boobs. 

[landess]

 

So you must be right then isn't it?

My entire point is the disappointment is based on player expectations, with them being so high for this release that no game could've made everyone happy. While I see 'everyone' has some form of ideas concerning how THEY would've like the game to be, it is what it is for now.

 

"Like it or leave it, but please stop bitching about it" - is something that will free people from this self-imposed struggle they appear to be dealing with. I thought the new Star Wars was an abomination. So I don't watch them - I 'let it go' and moved on. Why give ones self ulcers over something out of ones control?

 

People can try all day to piss in my cornflakes, but it ain't happening - keep your nasty cornflakes to yourselves - I'm not having it. Sorry Cyberpunk 2077 didn't ship with lube......  Some people really need it.

 

Attacking my views is a form of 'cancel culture' - another thing I have a problem with in this world, more than a fuckin' game.

 

(BTW - Thanks for liking the screenies - and yes, hopefully serious mods come to this title)

 

 

[prinyo]

 

"Like it or leave it, but please stop bitching about it"

Not sure what you think a thread called "All things Cyberpunk 2077 General Thread" on a discussion forum website is about.

 

 

I thought the new Star Wars was an abomination. So I don't watch them - I 'let it go' and moved on.

Great. What you should not do now is visiting discussions about Star Wars and getting triggered that people have opinions that they discuss in the discussion forums.

[FauxFurry]

This entire debacle just reinforces my belief that more video games should just be digital version of table top games with fully visualized version of actions normally left up to the imagination rather than these playable Hollywood movies with a sprinkling of playable filler tossed in that AAA-developers keep trying to fob off on everyone. 

 

Cyber Punk 2077 isn't a bad video game version of Blade Runner 2049 but it isn't the best kind of adaptation of the Cyber Punk 2020 board game. Maybe Cyber Punk Online will finally hit the mark?

[Celedhring]

On 12/16/2020 at 9:29 AM, ToJKa said:

First game since Mass Effect 3 where i can headshot people trough walls

 

That assassination gig in a warehouse, playing the sneaky, headshotty type, climbed to the roof and tried to find the target trough the skylights. No luck, but minimap revealed that there is someone in a backroom that can't be seen from the roof. So got down, found the target, and headshotted him trough the wall

 

 

I got the Mail Slot achievement in Mass Effect 3.  (involves shooting through the viewer slot in riot shields)  Got a kick out of that one. ?   Still experimenting with sniper rifles to see which I like the  best.  The Widowmaker is hella fun.  Powering up a shot and BOOM.

[furkancankaya]

 

I read some people give a 10/10 score to this game and it's really unbelievable for me. I understand you might like it but don't forget there is a lot of missing features they did remove or simply didn't add to the game. The game is all about the main story I'm sure some of you already know but even side quests were part of the main story they just separate them. They were talking like '' this game is going to be the revolution of gaming'' all I see Billie Eilish's song and Keanu Reeves's hype...

 

People keep crying about bugs(they are right ofc)but my point even without bugs or glitches game is so empty. There is really nothing to do besides quests. You cant even go inside of buildings there are few buildings that let you go in because they have a quest in them. Character customization was so simple and basic. You cant even add some sliders like being bulky, skinny, or fat. Also, NPC characters can be full chrome but you cant do that. I'm not even talking about changing your appearance after you start the game because you can't change it at all. And it's funny because people can change every inch of their body in the cyberpunk universe but u can't even change your hair.Shops in the game have random items. You go to an expensive shop and check their inventories and you see cheap clothes, that's really annoying.

 

The only thing game has is a story but even the story is decent. They said your choices and dialogs will affect the game ending but that's not true at all. I have finished the game and you can choose ending at the last quest nothing affects the game's ending before that quest.

 

They lied to us about everything in this game. I really don't understand how people don't see that. Anyway, I'm not saying the game is shit or bad but this game would be a masterpiece if they didn't rush and design details or RPG elements 1 more year. Maybe if we would get cyberpunk in 2021 or 2022 we could talk about how beautiful the game is.

 

Also, don't forget they change the game category to action from RPG. LOL

 

Sorry for my English.