sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

[Will55]

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

That is in the animations and filters, most of the ones I use now look much better as far as quality goes.

Exactly what animations are you using then? I ask as mine are a hotch-potch of SL DLs. 

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

 

That actually is in Spank that Ass, for some strange reason. disable that for male characters and you won't hear that dialog anymore.

I do not like SM and even beating a slave makes me grind my teeth so that mod and its stat loss are leaving. I only kept it for the slap when a slave gives me a mouthful.

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

 

I would so love to see a good sized dungeon or prison or something that was specifically designed to have multiple cells and house a good number of slaves or prisoners for that matter. Would really love if it was done in a way that the end user could put their own torture devices in using the various available ZAZ/DD placement tools. Even using the ones that come with HSH would be a nice addition. But yes I totally agree, we need more places to hold our slaves with alot more room. Kinky Prison was a good start but long since abandoned and the navmesh is all kinds of fucked up and doesn't work. Would love if someone took that one over and fixed the issues with it and expanded on it more.

Currently I have 42 slaves and 36 are in the Abandoned Prison (6 in Vuoksi) which has lockable cell doors. I have no game house and my char's level is low.

The prison could hold quite a lot more and a mod is direly needed which simply cleans up the prison*(fixing cave ins, repairing damage, locked trapdoor over floor exit etc.). I am certainly no modder but the job does not seem that difficult seeing as the meshes etc are all there already and even expansion would be easy . I must look and see if anyone has made such a mod as it seems so obvious.

 

Hmm I added this and it went west: no one has rehabilitated the prison. Someone (a woman I would expect) turned it into a home with a little bridge over the river but that is about all. I am quite surprised.

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

TMPIN0 is the main core CPU temp and you definitely do not want that to spike up that high. It should with a properly cooled case and cpu should never go above 60-65 deg C honestly. I don't think mine has ever hit above 55 tbh.

I was in a conversation about this for several days on a technical website some years ago and that was purported but shot down by both the Intel and the MS tekkies but in neither case could they say exactly what it means. Nor did the resident Dell expert. I have liquid cooling and use a HD external fan on the "open box" and nothing affected the ups and downs of that temp reading. 

However, I am still unwilling to have it go that high and I appreciate your advice.

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

1. Where do you find her outside of the opening scenario vanilla start? I thought she was one of the ones that died during Alduin's attack that frees you? If she's elsewhere I so want to add her to my "collection" of annoying or otherwise pita npc slaves worthy of the whip .

21 hours ago, Martok73 said:

2. That sounds like a mod conflict with another mod that modifies either the PC or NPCs. You can try moving racemenu lower in the load order along with any PC Body mods you have installed and see if that helps any.

1. Post Dragon in Helgen, I did the Stormcloak ride this time instead of my usual imperial one as I heard that you could obtain imperial steel plate this way and I was quite surprised to run into her( she was wearing it...funny that !). Once enslaved, I forced her to follow until I could tie her down then TP'd her to Vuoksi when I reached it.

2. Thank you! I shall do just that.

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by Will55

[terrorofmorrowind]

This is possibly and ancient question by now but I found 2 caged females in Pinewatch. Are they part of a quest or are they free for the taking? I mean don't mind if I do lol.

[DonQuiWho]

27 minutes ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

This is possibly and ancient question by now but I found 2 caged females in Pinewatch. Are they part of a quest or are they free for the taking? I mean don't mind if I do lol.

 

I took them ...Nothing seems to have broken so far

 

I can't remember if I checked first before I did, but you could select a few things in the console and see what info is available about them.  Eg, the cages, and of course, the NPCs themselves, to check out what the last mod that changed them was

[terrorofmorrowind]

1 minute ago, DonQuiWho said:

 

I took them ...Nothing seems to have broken so far

 

I can't remember if I checked first before I did, but you could select a few things in the console and see what info is available about them.  Eg, the cages, and of course, the NPCs themselves, to check out what the last mod that changed them was

Yeah I know. But never hurts to ask. I personally think they were used as "test subjects" to see if everything was working properly or not. I took em too btw. I think that "Ingrid" character is supposed to be from Helgen. Not sure where that khajiit originally came from though.

[CliftonJD]

18 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

I added this line to stop the hooker from doing the masturbation scene if no choice was made. But as it is now the training dialogue don't shows up again if you talk to the Hooker again at once.  is there a standard 'never mind' dialogue?

As I wrote it was something stupid... I'm going to test the training now and check on the the other stuff... 

that dialogue is set to reset each time its shown, never mind topic won't help with a reset timer, would need a new way to handle how often training can be done.

18 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

problem you're seeing with them not knowing each other.

starting to see this bug in training the new hookers past the third and when training an old hooker with a new hooker, and when taking a new hooker off the clock. gotta be "something" else we're missing that identifies the hookers to each other

 

17 hours ago, Martok73 said:

So is there anyway to fix it so it reads the right name and stop calling all slaves by their base id type?

we'll have to send the correct name to a message, thinking about trying the method used by the slave info spell

18 hours ago, Martok73 said:

Would really love if it was done in a way that the end user could put their own torture devices in using the various available ZAZ/DD placement tools. Even using the ones that come with HSH would be a nice addition.

not sure if its a zaz 8 issue or an sse issue, the slaves no longer see zaz furniture different from other skyrim furniture. dd furniture hasn't been explained to the slaves yet, so we don't know if it will have the same bugs as the zaz furniture

8 hours ago, Will55 said:

Ahaaa! I unticked the esp in the RIGHT MO2 box(to save reLOOTing) and the scripts will still be there. That explains it all. Many thanks!

welcome

 

1 hour ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

This is possibly and ancient question by now but I found 2 caged females in Pinewatch. Are they part of a quest or are they free for the taking? I mean don't mind if I do lol.

1 hour ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

Yeah I know. But never hurts to ask. I personally think they were used as "test subjects" to see if everything was working properly or not. I took em too btw. I think that "Ingrid" character is supposed to be from Helgen. Not sure where that khajiit originally came from though.

yes, they're free for the taking and used as test subjects, or examples, of the "enslave faction" feature

[Martok73]

12 hours ago, Will55 said:

Martok73's suggestion seem a good one as I am already ignoring LOOT with not a few mods.

LOOT is a decent starting place and can give a rough idea where to start with sorting your load order, but it's not the end all be all solution.

 

11 hours ago, Will55 said:

Exactly what animations are you using then? I ask as mine are a hotch-potch of SL DLs. 

I use the new updated animations by Billy, and Leito, also have Anubs and Ayasato. Sexual Vampire Feed are really nice for a vampire playthrough to add sex to feeding on your victims. It adds both sex animations combined with feeding animations and a dialog option to initiate it which makes decent enough sense. The best animations tho are Billy and Leito ones tho. Billy are very smooth and look pretty good imho.

 

11 hours ago, Will55 said:

I do not like SM and even beating a slave makes me grind my teeth so that mod and its stat loss are leaving. I only kept it for the slap when a slave gives me a mouthful.

Not a huge a fan of S&M either, but the mod fit two of my characters thus I used it for them. For the rest of my characters tho it is disabled. As to "beating" a slave, just IRL sometimes the only way to ensure compliance and obedience is to whip them. Some slavers actually whip them, others spank them, others "beat" them, and other use various other methods, so it's really up to you how you choose to RP it in game in order to get a slave to submit. However as history has shown, adding pain to the punishment accelerates the process of getting someone to submit and comply. Corporal Punishment always worked well for my father, lol. I never did the same thing twice to get the short end of a hickory switch. LOL.

 

11 hours ago, Will55 said:

Currently I have 42 slaves and 36 are in the Abandoned Prison (6 in Vuoksi) which has lockable cell doors. I have no game house and my char's level is low.

But doesn't that area respawn? I mean isn't there enemies in that place at some point? How do you get the cell doors to lock without console commands? Never thought of using that place but will look more closely at it now.

 

11 hours ago, Will55 said:

I was in a conversation about this for several days on a technical website some years ago and that was purported but shot down by both the Intel and the MS tekkies but in neither case could they say exactly what it means. Nor did the resident Dell expert. I have liquid cooling and use a HD external fan on the "open box" and nothing affected the ups and downs of that temp reading. 

However, I am still unwilling to have it go that high and I appreciate your advice.

As a former MS Engineer, Mainframe programmer and network engineer, I can assure you it's linked directly with the CPU core temp. Yes you can cool it down and keep it low, turn off your fans and liquid cooling and watch what happens to that number. LOL.

 

11 hours ago, Will55 said:

1. Post Dragon in Helgen, I did the Stormcloak ride this time instead of my usual imperial one as I heard that you could obtain imperial steel plate this way and I was quite surprised to run into her. Once enslaved, I forced her to follow until I could tie her down then TP'd her to Vuoksi when I reached it.

I honestly never knew this was even possible. Is there anywhere else you can find her in game as I haven't done a "vanilla" start in literal years. Are you talking about the little player home that Elinora made right outside of Riverwood?

 

3 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

we'll have to send the correct name to a message, thinking about trying the method used by the slave info spell

It'll be really nice if you can get it to work as it's really annoying and immersion breaking having mods refer to slaves as their base id type and not their name

 

3 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

not sure if its a zaz 8 issue or an sse issue, the slaves no longer see zaz furniture different from other skyrim furniture. dd furniture hasn't been explained to the slaves yet, so we don't know if it will have the same bugs as the zaz furniture

A tad bit confused here, as of this writing in my game at least, I have no issues with slaves seeing and using the torture devices that can be added in game via the HSH spells. They also do not "sandbox" in them and only use them for "punishment" animations while one is training another. I also have ZAP Helper that adds the ability to place ZAZ devices and the slaves use those just fine as well without sandboxing into them on their own. So I'm really confused as to what you mean they don't see them differently? HSH gives you the ability to add in ZAZ furniture devices when you place house cells, camp cells via a spell, and I've never had any issue with slaves using the furniture during training session for punishments, nor had any issues with them just randomly hoping into them just sandboxing either. Now with the helper addon I have I can even lock them into furniture via dialog and they stay put and don't escape.

 

3 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

yes, they're free for the taking and used as test subjects, or examples, of the "enslave faction" feature

Ha, I never knew this either and always thought they were part of the mod that adds in slaves to bandit camps, lol. Good to know it's part of PAHE, so they're just examples of how that one selection works then huh?

Edited February 1, 2022 by Martok73

[bnub345]

3 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

not sure if its a zaz 8 issue or an sse issue, the slaves no longer see zaz furniture different from other skyrim furniture. dd furniture hasn't been explained to the slaves yet, so we don't know if it will have the same bugs as the zaz furniture

 

Something to consider here, if the slaves are in the tied state while in the furniture, you will never be able to use furniture anims on them because SL will think they are tied and use tied anims. But if you don't put them in tied state they will probably not stay in the furniture.

[Pfiffy]

@CliftonJD:

 

After checking the properties over and over again and comparing them against each other several times, I feel a bit ashamed... I didn't see it... maybe I just didn't see it anymore. 

 

In my last run I was able to bribe all six Hookers, I left out my favorites and checked other NPC's. I think this part is fixed.

I'm testing the recruited followers as Hookers today and how far the training is working.  It seems like the old Hookers make more trouble than the new ones. I tested different combinations. Starting with the new Hookers I can start 3 training scenes: example: 4+1, 5+2, 6+3 I tried different combinations and they worked, but as soon as I start with one of the old Hookers I can just start 2 Scenes and the last 2 Hookers don't offer the dialogue to train with each other. (At least I did something right....) 

Edit: They still show the two other training options. (train with the PC and train alone) so it seems like a minor bug. At least I can go for a longer test now and get ready to test the rest of the mod. 

 

 

 

Edited February 2, 2022 by Pfiffy

[Martok73]

4 hours ago, bnub345 said:

 

Something to consider here, if the slaves are in the tied state while in the furniture, you will never be able to use furniture anims on them because SL will think they are tied and use tied anims. But if you don't put them in tied state they will probably not stay in the furniture.

I use this to "lock" npcs in the ZAZ furniture and it works really well too. Can place it as well, and when a npc is locked in, SL will take them out just long enough to fuck em' then this addon will put them back in the furniture. There is a patch for PAHE that fixes it so npcs locked in won't try to escape, which is nice, but I they do no appear to gain any pose training while locked in zaz furniture.

 

[CliftonJD]

8 hours ago, Martok73 said:

Now with the helper addon I have I can even lock them into furniture via dialog and they stay put and don't escape.

if the slaves saw the furniture properly you wouldn't need an external mod to lock them into it without escape....they would see it as zaz furniture and be unable to escape from it merely for it being zaz furniture.

this:

4 hours ago, Martok73 said:

There is a patch for PAHE that fixes it so npcs locked in won't try to escape, which is nice, but I they do no appear to gain any pose training while locked in zaz furniture.

this is my point, if the slaves were able to see zaz furniture in se like they do in Le, you wouldn't need a patch to prevent escape. seems the pose training was never added to zaz furniture even when it was working tho

8 hours ago, Martok73 said:

so they're just examples of how that one selection works then huh?

ya, it was meant as inspiration to any modders out there who would choose to add free slaves to the world

8 hours ago, bnub345 said:

 

Something to consider here, if the slaves are in the tied state while in the furniture, you will never be able to use furniture anims on them because SL will think they are tied and use tied anims. But if you don't put them in tied state they will probably not stay in the furniture.

restrained in furniture is set to be completely inescapable...if the feature still worked as intended, i wouldn't mind needing to fix the animation tags to fit

7 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

@CliftonJD:

 

After checking the properties over and over again and comparing them against each other several times, I feel a bit ashamed... I didn't see it... maybe I just didn't see it anymore. 

 

In my last run I was able to bribe all six Hookers, I left out my favorites and checked other NPC's. I think this part is fixed.

I'm testing the recruited followers as Hookers today and how far the training is working.  It seems like the old Hookers make more trouble than the new ones. I tested different combinations. Starting with the new Hookers I can start 3 training scenes: example: 4+1, 5+2, 6+3 I tried different combinations and they worked, but as soon as I start with one of the old Hookers I can just start 2 Scenes and the last 2 Hookers don't offer the dialogue to train with each other. (At least I did something right....) 

hopefully this fixes that last part as well:

pimping corrections 2.esl

• hookers 2 and 3 training fixes for hookers 4 and 6- (both had hookers 4 and 6 mixed up)
• hooker 5 training fix for hooker 4 -hooker 5 is assigned to a different quest hooker for this training
• hooker 6 training fix for hooker 2- same problem as hooker 5
• dance for cash fix for hooker5-wrong quest again
• off the clock fixes for the 3 new hookers (minor fixes to hooker 4, minor fix to hooker 5, and some major fixes with hooker 6
• quest property fixes to configmenu - dancescene1 is listed twice, should be replaced with dance scene 2
• quest fixes for giscenes for hooker 4 and 5 - wrong scenes
• quest property fixes to the 3 new dancer gi scenes- also wrong scenes

 

[kohlteth]

21 hours ago, Will55 said:

Currently I have 42 slaves and 36 are in the Abandoned Prison (6 in Vuoksi) which has lockable cell doors. I have no game house and my char's level is low.

The prison could hold quite a lot more and a mod is direly needed which simply cleans up the prison*(fixing cave ins, repairing damage, locked trapdoor over floor exit etc.). I am certainly no modder but the job does not seem that difficult seeing as the meshes etc are all there already and even expansion would be easy . I must look and see if anyone has made such a mod as it seems so obvious.

 

Hmm I added this and it went west: no one has rehabilitated the prison. Someone (a woman I would expect) turned it into a home with a little bridge over the river but that is about all. I am quite surprised.

 

Have you checked out "Dread Prison" although for some reason HSH sees it all as one cell, but that houses a few of "Slavers Hideout" which has a fantastic "basement" area, I just wish it was accessible straight from the outside, so to speak.   I also use Fort Blackmoor Mod, that one works well., 

[shoka]

Quote

retired the leveled actorbase enslavement option

 

So, with version 8, is it no longer possible to enslave leveled NPCs?

 

Is this because of the actor base being edited? Can we make this an option? I typically deal with this by adding many, many more bandits to the game.

[DonQuiWho]

10 hours ago, Martok73 said:

I use this to "lock" npcs in the ZAZ furniture and it works really well too. Can place it as well, and when a npc is locked in, SL will take them out just long enough to fuck em' then this addon will put them back in the furniture. There is a patch for PAHE that fixes it so npcs locked in won't try to escape, which is nice, but I they do no appear to gain any pose training while locked in zaz furniture.

 

 

Hi

 

How did you get the PAHE patch to work?  I found it ages ago but It has Chesko's Wearable lanterns maked into it as a master dependency and I can't see any way of removing the master file reference WITHOUT actually adding the Chesko File into the game first - as without it, TESEDIT5 won't let you open the patch   ? 

 

Do you know where to find the 'demastered' version?  The mod author seems to say, basically, 'I use it like this in my game, so tough. DiY'  Which is not much help to non techs like me  ?

[pinky6225]

2 hours ago, shoka said:

 

So, with version 8, is it no longer possible to enslave leveled NPCs?

 

Is this because of the actor base being edited? Can we make this an option? I typically deal with this by adding many, many more bandits to the game.

 

The leveled actorbase enslavement option in the MCM was to try and correct the issue with the naked bandits which didn't work

 

You can still enslave them the same as before its just that V8 continues to have the naked bandit bug dispite numerous attempts to fix it, so if seeing unenslaved bandits being naked freaks you out (due to having enslaved another one with the same form ID) then the only real way to avoid it is to only enslave unique NPC's

[Will55]

15 hours ago, Martok73 said:

I use the new updated animations by Billy, and Leito, also have Anubs and Ayasato. Sexual Vampire Feed are really nice for a vampire playthrough to add sex to feeding on your victims. It adds both sex animations combined with feeding animations and a dialog option to initiate it which makes decent enough sense. The best animations tho are Billy and Leito ones tho. Billy are very smooth and look pretty good imho.

I have >14000 animations all picked, more or less at random. I will have to trim them.  I really do not like the Anubis ones as they all wear thin after a while . But nevertheless, Thank you!

15 hours ago, Martok73 said:

 

Not a huge a fan of S&M either, but the mod fit two of my characters thus I used it for them. For the rest of my characters tho it is disabled. As to "beating" a slave, just IRL sometimes the only way to ensure compliance and obedience is to whip them. Some slavers actually whip them, others spank them, others "beat" them, and other use various other methods, so it's really up to you how you choose to RP it in game in order to get a slave to submit. However as history has shown, adding pain to the punishment accelerates the process of getting someone to submit and comply. Corporal Punishment always worked well for my father, lol. I never did the same thing twice to get the short end of a hickory switch. LOL.

I tried several times to make a vampire char in not a few TES games including ESO and could just not "get my teeth into it" (sorry!) as I felt like Brad Pitt did.

15 hours ago, Martok73 said:

 

But doesn't that area respawn? I mean isn't there enemies in that place at some point? How do you get the cell doors to lock without console commands? Never thought of using that place but will look more closely at it now.

I am not certain but I don't think that the ghosts respawn. Should be interesting if they do as some of those girls even without weapons are deadly including the vampires.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/16389     lockmaster. 

15 hours ago, Martok73 said:

 

As a former MS Engineer, Mainframe programmer and network engineer, I can assure you it's linked directly with the CPU core temp. Yes you can cool it down and keep it low, turn off your fans and liquid cooling and watch what happens to that number. LOL.

I just did a Prime 95 stress test and had to stop it as it hit 104 C while the cores all hit the 90s I think that I have a problem and my l have to strip it all down.  

I never doubted that it was relevant, I just passed on the confusion and disagreement it created when I asked. The problem isn't new.

15 hours ago, Martok73 said:

 

I honestly never knew this was even possible. Is there anywhere else you can find her in game as I haven't done a "vanilla" start in literal years. Are you talking about the little player home that Elinora made right outside of Riverwood?

I guess that she could be resurrected if you do the imperial run but like Susanna the Wicked (who can only be rez;d in the hall of the Dead once murdered unless you grab her when she is still warm although I have never tried that (on this run I will duplicate her, grab the original (EFF or enslave) and Calixto can kill the copy, I get the impression that she can only be rez;d inside the Helgen run before you exit as I remember trying and failing to rez her ages ago outside of Helgen. post dragon.

Addendum: I just tested that with an early imperial save and yes she can be rez'd and this time she killed my char in secs. when I tried to enslave her lol !

 

yes it is the little shack outside of Riverwood. It has multiple external mesh problems but is handy in the beginning especially as it has an enchantment altar. There is also a deserted but furnished farmhouse (in my game) NW of Bloated Man's grotto and east of the nearby dragon mound. It has 2 levels and I am yet to use it but a nice place to dump keepworthy followers while waiting for a house.

 

 

Edited February 2, 2022 by Will55

[Will55]

4 hours ago, kohlteth said:

 

Have you checked out "Dread Prison" although for some reason HSH sees it all as one cell, but that houses a few of "Slavers Hideout" which has a fantastic "basement" area, I just wish it was accessible straight from the outside, so to speak.   I also use Fort Blackmoor Mod, that one works well., 

Yes I did, but like so many "house" mods the creator cannot resist a load of superfluous NPCs and quests that destroy its value.

Never looked at Ft Blackmore. So I will do so. Thank You!

[pinky6225]

15 minutes ago, Will55 said:

Yes I did, but like so many "house" mods the creator cannot resist a load of superfluous NPCs and quests that destroy its value.

Never looked at Ft Blackmore. So I will do so. Thank You!

 

If your after a empty huge place to keep slaves you might want to try -

 

As the temple comes with cells for PAH / Non-PAH slaves

Edited February 2, 2022 by pinky6225

[Will55]

To pinky6225:

Thank you! I will have a look although MB is a disgusting daedra with a nice mace.

 

BTW & OT!

 

Has anyone else had the pleasure of meeting Salonia Carvain whilst walking through Skyrim?

This was my second time in some >12 run-throughs and so I was forewarned: she is a rude, arrogant snobbish bitch who along with her milk-drinker husband is trying to get to Solitude to attend VV's wedding so as to suck up to the emperor. You can meet her twice: before and after the wedding: she is equally rude.

 

So I decided to duplicate her and enslave the copy so as not to "rock the boat" but the original attacked me and the copy & husband ran off together and are still looking for Solitude.

As a slave she was an incredibly rude one so I ticked the DOM esp box to see how to deal with her and now I have tame pussy cat slave with all bar 2 stats at 100. Unfortunately it makes me cringe (rather like the slaves sucking up in the first Dune (old)movie) when she speaks until you ask her how she feels then you see the hatred. Interesting!

[Gukahn]

6 minutes ago, Will55 said:

 

Few steps ahead of you, the entire thieves guild is enslaved and sold, well i keep Karliah for a longer while.. She is hard to train.. Entire Brotherhood Minus Babette is next ?

 

(Now i am disgustingly  rich..)

Edited February 2, 2022 by Gukahn

[terrorofmorrowind]

16 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

Few steps ahead of you, the entire thieves guild is enslaved and sold, well i keep Karliah for a longer while.. She is hard to train.. Entire Brotherhood Minus Babette is next ?

 

(Now i am disgustingly  rich..)

Yeah, if you do your job well. You can pocket like 20000 to 40000 each, depending on what race your slaves. Redguards seem to go for 40000 when they are fully trained, while nords and bretons seem to go for far less most of the time.

[Gukahn]

6 minutes ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

Yeah, if you do your job well. You can pocket like 20000 to 40000 each, depending on what race your slaves. Redguards seem to go for 40000 when they are fully trained, while nords and bretons seem to go for far less most of the time.

That makes sense in some way, seeing on how rare redguards are in skyrim they should be worth more then nords and bretons who have a far bigger population number ?

[Will55]

59 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

Few steps ahead of you, the entire thieves guild is enslaved and sold, well i keep Karliah for a longer while.. She is hard to train.. Entire Brotherhood Minus Babette is next ?

 

(Now i am disgustingly  rich..)

How did you find Vex? IMO oral sex with her would be very risky, submission 100 or not.I wa sahppy to cheat with her by using Bewitch. I actually felt for Sapphire (did the AA one with her) while Karliah always seemed a sexpot.

I wonder if you could duplicate Babette, then change her appearance via Proteus(I am guessing as I have not really looked at the new version) into an adult. Perhaps the duplication might make her NPC normal unlike most children in Skyrim. I like children in RL and even have some, but the little horrors in Skyrim really can annoy you.

Find something to spend that money on is the hardest thing in the game. Someone suggested the stats potions mod at 50k a hit. But by then you scarcely need more help.

[Will55]

BTW Pfiffy/Clifton

 

The 3 Hookers when set to "find clients by yourself" actually works and well.

I am yet to see if they turn up on your doorstep when you fast travel (or player.moveto )elsewhere (with them on follower "relax"). but so far it works really well.

This was always a bugbear previously as you had to spoon feed them. Now it almost hard to catch them on their feet. ?

 

Well Done!!!

[Gukahn]

38 minutes ago, Will55 said:

How did you find Vex? IMO oral sex with her would be very risky, submission 100 or not.I wa sahppy to cheat with her by using Bewitch. I actually felt for Sapphire (did the AA one with her) while Karliah always seemed a sexpot.

I wonder if you could duplicate Babette, then change her appearance via Proteus(I am guessing as I have not really looked at the new version) into an adult. Perhaps the duplication might make her NPC normal unlike most children in Skyrim. I like children in RL and even have some, but the little horrors in Skyrim really can annoy you.

Find something to spend that money on is the hardest thing in the game. Someone suggested the stats potions mod at 50k a hit. But by then you scarcely need more help.

 

Vex was also not easy. Had to involve an entire orc tribe plus a troll to get her sexlevel over the cap to sell her as a hooker... ? Thank Talos for Pet Collar so i could cook and clean. After the third Gangbang it got repetitive.

Sapphire trained mostly with Skeever. I put a Pig nose on her and sold her to the Dunmer Farmer couple just outside of riften. Little Piggy does farm work now. (Had to reload or she would work for battle borns.. Didn't felt right.)

 

 

As for Babette..Nah it's not worth the hassle really. Destroy the dark brotherhood enchanced will get me to kill her. That's enough. I don't really mind age swapping her but i don't really care enough. There is a mod that replaces her with a down scaled breton, this makes her adult but it's not intended to age  her up and i felt kinda creepy just looking at her so i changed her back. Killing her has to suffice.

 

I actually have to redo somethings, updated a mod might have to make an entire new save if i have no choice, so i can enjoy enslaving vex and co again.. Right after i turned the dawnguard fems into Gman Bimbos.. And uninstall seranas dialogue addon.It's very good but it hijacks my slaver playthrough quite a bit. As for spending money.. Yeah no, i like being challenged a bit in combat, so making my character even more powerful.. Better vampires and sacrosanct makes him powerful enough  ? playing a invincible god is not may thing.

But maybe while i am ad it i will find some real estate mods or i tweak honed metal.

 

[Will55]

To Pfiffy/CliftonJD

 

I spoke too soon. I finally managed to get a hooker high enough to have her work alone (at the Nightgate Inn).

 

There was NO speech line to allow this.

There were only choices for the three minor towns (F, M & D) available as solo hooker sites.

This is totally contrary to the previous version where I could place them, more or less, where I liked.

 

That has effectively iced this playthrough and I am abandoning it until this is fixed.

I have had one hooker with over 40 clients for a while although she is now only a follower, and I was going to employ her as a solo just before I left Nightgate inn with my 3 others all over 40 clients( + 8 training =72+) as this inn was a frenzied place.

Much as I appreciate the "find clients by yourself" improvement, this is lethal to my hooker game.

I thought about concentrating on AYGAS and HSH for hookers instead but TDF is my core so that is that.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Will55