Sexlab Survival

[Fulanoo]

Suggestion: Add event similar to bump spank if PC is wearing a revealing armor (SOS option to show pubic hair) and is not wearing anything on slot 52, people you bump or just on proximity can come over and pull PC's pubic hair (maybe reducing it by one size?)
 

[Majin Buu]

Does Sexlab Survival have guards charge you a crime of 75 septims if drinking skooma when Misogyny & Inequality Guard Behaviour - Drugs is enabled? Trying to figure out which mod if adding to my crime when character drinks skooma and still happens when I have Drugs option disabled.

[Monoman1]

53 minutes ago, Majin Buu said:

Does Sexlab Survival have guards charge you a crime of 75 septims if drinking skooma when Misogyny & Inequality Guard Behaviour - Drugs is enabled? Trying to figure out which mod if adding to my crime when character drinks skooma and still happens when I have Drugs option disabled.

No 75 sounds like an odd number for SLS. 100, 250, 500 are more SLS sounding. Also, I can't think of any bounty that's not issued via dialogue and not just via a notification. 

1 hour ago, Fulanoo said:

Suggestion: Add event similar to bump spank if PC is wearing a revealing armor (SOS option to show pubic hair) and is not wearing anything on slot 52, people you bump or just on proximity can come over and pull PC's pubic hair (maybe reducing it by one size?)
 

Maybe could do something around that. Dunno about dropping one level per event though. I don't think my PC would ever have pubic hair at that rate. 

[Clockwinding]

58 minutes ago, Majin Buu said:

Does Sexlab Survival have guards charge you a crime of 75 septims if drinking skooma when Misogyny & Inequality Guard Behaviour - Drugs is enabled? Trying to figure out which mod if adding to my crime when character drinks skooma and still happens when I have Drugs option disabled.

That should be from Skooma Whore : Addicted addon

[divinefire]

I dunno if your going forward with dancing in the future but I would like to see a private dancer option as well with it. You could maybe tie it in with begging and if you perform badly you get degraded and no tip kind of like if you do bad with sex and orgasm. If you do good then the clients arousal goes up and its easier to perform sex acts while begging so you do not get degraded with that either. I think I read somewhere you were thinking of have dancing lvls and advancement system kind of like sex experience that you could tie in with it. Anyway just some thoughts.

 

Also I play with Family Ties mod, this playthru is the Carlotta option which I live in that house until I can afford something. All the family options have stash inside their house. Its technically Carlotta's house so not sure if a property license could apply to that if your still looking for other mods to use it like wartimes.

[Fulanoo]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Maybe could do something around that. Dunno about dropping one level per event though. I don't think my PC would ever have pubic hair at that rate. 

How about a variable to count how many times the event happens and also a MCM option to select how many times that event needs to happen in order to reduce one level?

[boita]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Ah ok. Think this bug was brought up earlier. 

The way SLS tracks what homes you've bought is pretty simple - If the key is ever added to your inventory then you are considered as having bought the home and the script stops checking for the key. The problem of course is that the dude gives you the key to do the quest and I guess takes it away again. Think windhelm is the only place that has this thing. 

 

As for fixing it. There's no way because it's a script var. I'd have to write code/menu to do it. 

Ok, thanks for the explaination. Yeah, I updated from 0.602, reason why this only happens to me now. I'll continue roleplaing that some confusion happened at Windhelm and go with it, atleast it's not game breaking. Or ... maybe the easy propriety can give me access to the Windhelm home. So many new features for me

[Nazzzgul666]

17 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Side point: I never noted this but it should be pretty obvious from reading the changelog. Stash stealing has been amped up on steroids (especially if you 'default' the settings) and with the stealing of dropped items it changes things a fair bit. You need to be careful. The basic idea is to encourage you to either keep stuff on you (so that you can be caught and it can be inspected/confiscated) or put stuff in a safe stash which either involves buying a home (see new 'easy homes' options) and paying for a property licence or some other arrangement of convenience (currently either the wartimes scenario or the kennel deal. Hopefully expand it later to marriages). 

Thought about this and how it makes the game really difficult. I'd still like to go out and play... Skyrim, you know, but just disabling the licences or make them really cheap feels like cheating. xD

The idea i had was that you can store 1 item somewhere, most obvious place i guess would be some haystacks in the stables as all bigger cities at least have them already. You can sneak in, activate the haystack and get a popup, not sure how to chose something... maybe simply equipped armor/weapon? Same way you get it back, but there's a chance you have to calm an animal so it won't alarm everybody, or the stable boy...

If get caught sneaking in to place something all kinds of blackmail could be imaginable, from regular visits to payments or tasks, otherwise this "safe place" might become unsafe or so... 

[Lupine00]

41 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Thought about this and how it makes the game really difficult.

I never used stashes at all, so the other changes are (ironically) just making things easier for me to access "home" locations.

 

I do end up spending a lot of time as the follower's pet, one way or another.

That doesn't prevent playing Skyrim altogether - but there's a lot less access to good armor and weapons, and spells are hard to get.

 

With the DFC licensing just piling debt onto you, you can keep on keeping on adventuring, but as a slave you're in a debt race against license costs you didn't used to have to deal with. That's something I should address, but strangely, not one single player has brought it up yet.

 

If  you use the SLTR slavery, it's a bit different, and you lose the license handling, which can make some things easier, and you don't have to pay off your debt with that mode ... ah ... but that's not really released yet. I'm just doing a mechanic to manage how debt is handled on returning to freedom after a stint as Lola.

[Nazzzgul666]

13 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I never used stashes at all, so the other changes are (ironically) just making things easier for me to access "home" locations.

 

I do end up spending a lot of time as the follower's pet, one way or another.

That doesn't prevent playing Skyrim altogether - but there's a lot less access to good armor and weapons, and spells are hard to get.

 

With the DFC licensing just piling debt onto you, you can keep on keeping on adventuring, but as a slave you're in a debt race against license costs you didn't used to have to deal with. That's something I should address, but strangely, not one single player has brought it up yet.

 

If  you use the SLTR slavery, it's a bit different, and you lose the license handling, which can make some things easier, and you don't have to pay off your debt with that mode ... ah ... but that's not really released yet. I'm just doing a mechanic to manage how debt is handled on returning to freedom after a stint as Lola.

Currently i'm using Lola instead of DFC, i thought it might be too much overall, plus i haven't played forquite a while and want to get a clue which dialogue actually comes from which mod, which can be really difficult using several doing similar things. So i'm not sure about your license stuff.^^
Otherwise, well... what i'm mostly struggling with are dragons. I don't have a follower that uses bow as first weapon and it gets confiscated every time. Plus, several followers from ToH have a flee package at least for stronger enemies. I can't carry a bow around either. Admittedly... placing one item would not really solve that as arrows would be needed as well, but arrows are something i can make with campfire. Bows too, still... having a good one would make quite a difference. 

What's SLTR though?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Thought about this and how it makes the game really difficult. I'd still like to go out and play... Skyrim

Funny. Think I've done more actual playing skyrim since running the beta. I'm with Lupine. For me, most of this update is carrot. And less stick. I know I keep banging on about it but I'm doing the wartimes scenario. Because I'm a 'resident' I haven't been saddled with a DF yet. That affords a huge amount of freedom. As soon as you get a DF, time is money. You've got to rush to make that gold. Inevitably, this leads to you making mistakes/becoming overwhelmed and ending up enslaved and beginning your downward death spiral of enslavement. 

 

Like I said I've not got a DF yet which affords time. I can build basic skills:

• hunterborn - I'm capable enough now that hunting/dressing/butchering/cooking isn't going to take all day - which would have previously piled on DF debt and ran down the duration of my licences (assuming I could afford any). Making me further rush and take risks to make gold
• Between sleeping in the kennel and keeping in favor of the step father I've been able to get 2 licences for practically free. One from the kennel guy which if you don't want to get fucked all night will cost 40 gold per night for the cell. And another by doing what your told by your step father and exchanging favor for gold. 
• Using bikini breakdown  I've been able to procure a basic iron bikini and begin bikini training. 
• I've time to train my feet for heel walking in YPS fashion. 
• No tolls to pay - I can pass into and out of town easy enough and don't need an escort. If I'm carrying something I shouldn't be carrying then I can try going in via the sewers to sell it etc. Then all I have to worry about are guard enforcers and not getting my licences wet. (didn't think I'd like this mechanic but it's grown on me). 
• For the first time ever I think, I've seen my STA masochism actually drop 0.5 points
• Had time to get some basic perks - crafting in particular. 
• My PC is surprisingly not addicted to cum. 

 

I'd forgotten how nice it is to just wander aimlessly in Skyrim. But this scenario is limiting. I haven't been able to make it very far before I have to run back to make the step father dinner or I've got to be back in the kennel before midnight. I think Redorans Retreat is as far as I've gone. Eventually I'm going to have to get out of that predicament because it's not practical to run back every time the house is dirty. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. 

 

46 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Bows too, still... having a good one would make quite a difference. 

You see. I consider dragons to be end game content. I'm usually at least level 20 before I even try to kill the first wounded dragon and going through bleak falls is hell. This is what I totally hated about the Fallout 4 opener. "Here's a set of power armor now kill that deathclaw". And you've done it. Beaten the game. Well done. Alt + F4. 

 

My point is, if you're at the dragon part then really you should be rocking a full set of licences IMO. Of course I'm not telling you how to play your game. That's why options exist. I'm just explaining my 'design choice'. 

 

  

46 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

What's SLTR though?

Submissive Lola The Resubmissioningningiign ?

[Monoman1]

15 hours ago, divinefire said:

I dunno if your going forward with dancing in the future but I would like to see a private dancer option as well with it. You could maybe tie it in with begging and if you perform badly you get degraded and no tip kind of like if you do bad with sex and orgasm. If you do good then the clients arousal goes up and its easier to perform sex acts while begging so you do not get degraded with that either. I think I read somewhere you were thinking of have dancing lvls and advancement system kind of like sex experience that you could tie in with it. Anyway just some thoughts.

Yea stuff like that was planned but I just burnt out on doing comments. The problem with having a good 'crowd noise' is that you need lots of different voice types saying/doing lots of different things. And doing voices for, what ~20 different voice types is.... exhausting. I'll probably chip away at it now and then when it suits. 

15 hours ago, divinefire said:

Also I play with Family Ties mod, this playthru is the Carlotta option which I live in that house until I can afford something. All the family options have stash inside their house. Its technically Carlotta's house so not sure if a property license could apply to that if your still looking for other mods to use it like wartimes.

Yea. Looks like an interesting mod I could hook into. Are there any drawbacks to it though? I mean is there some point where you can lose access to the house and have to fend for yourself? 

 

Don't think property licence will apply. It's part of the benefit. Also too much work to implement probably. 

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Currently i'm using Lola instead of DFC, i thought it might be too much overall, plus i haven't played forquite a while and want to get a clue which dialogue actually comes from which mod, which can be really difficult using several doing similar things. So i'm not sure about your license stuff.^^

You should probably look at what has actually been happening with DFC, and SLTR, and licenses...

 

Also, DFC is supposed to pause automatically when you're enslaved as a Lola, but Hexbolt made the ZAP events an option you have to turn ON, so many people may not even be aware that was how it was intended to work.

You can pause manually, even if you don't have that on, so the only reason to be running SLTR and DFC at once is because you planned to.

 

DFC's next release will be able to put you into SLTR instead of DFC enslavement (there's a preview of this on the forum).

 

License handling is a helpful feature for exactly those people who find SLS licenses unmanageable on top of DFC expenses. It consolidates them all into one lovely DFC debt. The follower buys the licenses you need and charges you ... something ... that you can configure in DFC. There are some other options, but that's the core of it. That means that you can always afford licenses, but you may end up in DFC debt because of it.

 

The big benefit is you don't have that initial blocker where you can't even leave town due to lack of licenses. Just find an "escort" and sign your life away, and they'll happily show you the adventuring ropes ... probably some adventuring yokes, shackles, armbinders and pet-suits later.

 

The next, next release (the one after 2.14.0) will have some improvements for how licensing interacts with slavery.

Slaves won't get armor/bikini, clothes, or weapon licenses, because they won't need them!

That might impair your ability to sell things, but that will be OK because your follower will understand and manage those dangerous items for you.

Slaves will still get a magic license, if they want one, and a whore license, whether they want one or not.

[Nazzzgul666]

41 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

 

Submissive Lola The Resubmissioningningiign ?

I see. And kinda agree, dragon stuff... in most games i completly avoided it/never played one char far enough to feel right for it, but i started this game with Shrouded secret out of curiosity and many things only trigger after you come back from high Rothgar, so now i'm lvl 5 encountering dragons... and i don't think Naked Defeat is able to calm these properly to rape me even. ;(

I also don't have hunterborn, never tried it honestly... generaly i'm not that eager for hunting and simply didn't care enough to add another mod i'll hardly ever use just for SLS features. That i added campfire and Frostfall is also simply due to your mod, and it's nice but... i already CTD occasionally when i get wet after beeing raped due to too many things going on at once. It's not bad enough to restart all over again with a different mod list, i really hesitate to add more, though.^^
Wartime scenario is that start by PCS? That requires sanguines debauchery? Another mod i'm very hesitant to add... admittedly didn't check it in quite a while but it never felt that great to me and added more issues than gains for me. I wanted to give wartime a try but rather like "I'll play that, then start a new game without SD+".

 

  

15 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

You should probably look at what has actually been happening with DFC, and SLTR, and licenses...

 

Slaves will still get a magic license, if they want one, and a whore license, whether they want one or not.

I probably should, but this game was meant mostly to test Lola and i didn't see much point in adding a mod i would not use. Sounds like i might be wrong, but... as mentioned above, i'm hesitant to add anything more, my game already isn't the most stable.
Speaking of whore licences... what exactly do these do? I think i bought one out of curiosity and didn't notice any change, but i didn't try it very long, crashed and my save was before the purchase, didn't bother to buy it again.

Didn't whore all too much either, i used DCLs whoreing feature a few times, i guess i need other mods to react to SLS not having a license?

[Nymra]

4 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

I see. And kinda agree, dragon stuff... in most games i completly avoided it/never played one char far enough to feel right for it, but i started this game with Shrouded secret out of curiosity and many things only trigger after you come back from high Rothgar, so now i'm lvl 5 encountering dragons... and i don't think Naked Defeat is able to calm these properly to rape me even. ;(

 

 

Good point... I think dragons were exempt because they fly or stuff. 

But because they fly they broke when used in Defeat, if I remember correctly.

Does SL defeat support dragons? 

maybe it is possible to make a custom scenario for them. But I always forget they exist, I disabled dragons ins 2017 and never looked back,. haha

[Lupine00]

6 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

Wartime scenario is that start by PCS? That requires sanguines debauchery?

I don't think it does.

 

It's a bit sketchy though. My comments on its forum go into more detail. I think MM patched some things, but ... quite a few things would need patching TBH.

[Nazzzgul666]

4 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

Good point... I think dragons were exempt because they fly or stuff. 

But because they fly they broke when used in Defeat, if I remember correctly.

Does SL defeat support dragons? 

maybe it is possible to make a custom scenario for them. But I always forget they exist, I disabled dragons ins 2017 and never looked back,. haha

I thought Defeat struggled with Dragons but found a solution in the end... might be wrong, though. Where it works for sure is Shout like a virgin, you might ask Virgin Marie if you want to.

2 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I don't think it does.

 

It's a bit sketchy though. My comments on its forum go into more detail. I think MM patched some things, but ... quite a few things would need patching TBH.

It's listed as hard requirement so i guess it does?

[Monoman1]

12 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

It's listed as hard requirement so i guess it does?

I removed display model as a requirement. 

 

Requirements in my version are:

Dawnguard.esm **

SexLab.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Dragonborn.esm **

SD Cages.esp **

HearthFires.esm **

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Amputator.esm **

 

That's a lot still tbh. 

When I have the time I must have a look and see why the ** marked mods are requirements. I'm fairly confident at least a few of them could be removed. I have them anyway but still...

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3347941

 

Edit; now that I look at the masters are all out of order. Could have sworn i sorted them. 

[Lupine00]

10 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

It's listed as hard requirement so i guess it does?

I think that may be a mis-description.

 

It requires SD Cages, but it doesn't have SD+ as a master. It would be strange to make it a soft-dep then describe it as a hard requirement.

 

SD Cages does not require SD+, in case you were thinking that.

[Nazzzgul666]

22 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I think that may be a mis-description.

 

It requires SD Cages, but it doesn't have SD+ as a master. It would be strange to make it a soft-dep then describe it as a hard requirement.

 

SD Cages does not require SD+, in case you were thinking that.

Nope, i was talking about that:


That it's not required is good to know though, i don't mind the other depencies all too much. I usually have amputator anyways cause it doesn't hurt when not used and SD cages, well... shouldn't hurt either. Display model should play in a similar category. I'm not really hitting any .esp limits or so, i'm just scared to add anything that might run any scripts... I'll probably start a new game soonish, Public whore checks like every 2 seconds if it should do something which will be changed in future versions and allow me to add some other stuff again.

Plus i'm not all too convinced of shrouded secret, i mostly was interested in the start quest which is removed in the current version, plus i didn't like it all too much that my male follwer has dialogue to get buttfucked by his female slave. But now that i have it i want to play a bit more with it to see a bit more content.  Shouldn't be too script heavy but...

From the descirption page though a lot of scenarios will get you enslaved by SD+, i assume not having it will do.. nothing then?
@Monoman1 When you provide more patches for it... what i'd be really grateful for would be having Fertility mode as alternative to Beeing female. BFs scans on all females in a room always caused stack dumps for me in a cell with more than 5 NPCs. Although... seeing the other content it's probably not... supposed to be seen, kinda. Like, i'd miss most content that way.

[divinefire]

43 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Yea stuff like that was planned but I just burnt out on doing comments. The problem with having a good 'crowd noise' is that you need lots of different voice types saying/doing lots of different things. And doing voices for, what ~20 different voice types is.... exhausting. I'll probably chip away at it now and then when it suits. 

Yea. Looks like an interesting mod I could hook into. Are there any drawbacks to it though? I mean is there some point where you can lose access to the house and have to fend for yourself? 

 

Don't think property licence will apply. It's part of the benefit. Also too much work to implement probably. 

Yeah there is no way to loose the house, its not really the PC's. I kind of use it as a starting point until I can get a house of my own. I have had the mod in my load order even before I found your mod. I thought of it as a snowberry start, Its no way as intense as wartimes.  You have to excempt the stash in or little sis takes all your stuff lol. I just thought i would mention it since you did some work with wartimes and were looking at other mods you might want to play around with survival.

[divinefire]

Also if your wanting another challenge way the play the mod I play survival with lola with a very demanding master for gold. Lola is very awesome in the fact you can adjust alot of stuff to make it very easy or very hard. I also play with the sexlab adventures patch with survival license with pretty hefty fines. Needless to say my PC has to please the guards with sexlab paycrime daily plus what I have to make for the lola master so she stays busy. Serving tables with radiant prostitution, sex with clients for sexlab approach/sexlab drunk, pickpocketing jerks who treat her bad or won't pay are all part of the daily routine. Thats why I was eager for dancing as it could mean a forth profession haha.

[Krashark]

About cum: is there any plan to add craftable potions to "ease" the cum addiction over the time, like the lactacid remedy in Milk Addict?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, divinefire said:

Lola is very awesome in the fact you can adjust alot of stuff to make it very easy or very hard

I tried Lola. But it just doesn't seem to be to my personal tastes. It all seems fairly.... optional. By that I mean you can tell your follower to go fuck herself and ok you get a whipping or some shocks but that's it. I don't see any real motivation to comply. It also struck me a bit odd that my PC would reject whatever small errand the follower had in mind by telling her in no uncertain terms to 'Go fuck herself' and then willingly submit to a whipping... My general roleplay approach is resistance until broken type affair (Not wanting to be a slave but gradually accepting it and maybe eventually wanting it). Whereas Lola is more about reluctant experimentation from what I've played (PC is unsure but open). The two approaches are pretty dissimilar IMO. 

 

I probably didn't give it enough of a chance tbh. But my game is borderline dumpster fire anyway. I had that saving with no papyrus chunk problem again yesterday. Perhaps it's something to do with my failing disk. Doubt it though. 

[Monoman1]

7 minutes ago, Vaccinated Alligator said:

About cum: is there any plan to add craftable potions to "ease" the cum addiction over the time, like the lactacid remedy in Milk Addict?

Maybe sometime. 

Try disabling 'cum blocks recovery' or something like that it's called. It stops addiction decay if there's so much as a drop of cum in/on you. 

I find it's a good bit more controllable then.