Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

45 minutes ago, muhavaux33 said:

I'm already using 5.0 and built all the restraints before posting here, so I'm going to guess that the only option left is to manually adjust. How do I do that? what is ymmv?

 

ymmv - your mileage may vary.

i don't get clipping with them, you are.

 

There's four bodyslide files for armbinders - ok, i found the problem, maybe. There's supposed to be four files, looks like i missed the leather elbowbinder. it's in the group, i don't see the sliderset.

DDA - CBBE SE - Armbinder
DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteArmbinder
DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteElbowbinder
DDX - CBBE SE - Elbowbinder

 

anyway, to adjust, you would open the project in outfit studio and inflate the mesh until it's not clipping anymore. this is hard to do with the armbinders, because the standard pose doesn't put the arms in a position where you can see the clipping. You have to guess based on what you see in game. I've had to use the mod 'in game bodyslide launcher' to kind of do it live. launch bodyslide, then launch outfit studio, adjust, save, flip to another outfit in bodyslide, flip back to the armbinder/elbowbinder (so the new mesh is loaded), build it, unequip the armbinder in game and then reequip so the changes show up. rinse, repeat until clipping is fixed.

 

there's no non-annoying way to fix the armbinders. if you aren't doing it in game, you're doing the same steps with exiting and relaunching the game in between instead of unequip/equip

 

Edit: I need to figure out what the hell I was doing with these. I'll put the files up on the troubleshooting post some time over the weekend.

 

[WhatRules]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

I don't know for sure. back up your esm and files before trying this.

There's sound descriptors for suits and dresses for different speeds in DDx, this might be the sounds.

 

you can try these one at a time to be sure it doesn't cause CTDs:

1. just get rid of the .wav files

2. remove the .wav files from the sound descriptor in the esm

3. remove the sound descriptor entirely

 

 

Thanks for the explanation. I also realized you can just replace the sounds with silent sounds, and there is no risk of CTD. Too bad I didn't think of that before asking. Sorry for making you post all that, but it's good to know anyway.

[muhavaux33]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

ymmv - your mileage may vary.

i don't get clipping with them, you are.

 

There's four bodyslide files for armbinders - ok, i found the problem, maybe. There's supposed to be four files, looks like i missed the leather elbowbinder. it's in the group, i don't see the sliderset.

DDA - CBBE SE - Armbinder
DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteArmbinder
DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteElbowbinder
DDX - CBBE SE - Elbowbinder

 

anyway, to adjust, you would open the project in outfit studio and inflate the mesh until it's not clipping anymore. this is hard to do with the armbinders, because the standard pose doesn't put the arms in a position where you can see the clipping. You have to guess based on what you see in game. I've had to use the mod 'in game bodyslide launcher' to kind of do it live. launch bodyslide, then launch outfit studio, adjust, save, flip to another outfit in bodyslide, flip back to the armbinder/elbowbinder (so the new mesh is loaded), build it, unequip the armbinder in game and then reequip so the changes show up. rinse, repeat until clipping is fixed.

 

there's no non-annoying way to fix the armbinders. if you aren't doing it in game, you're doing the same steps with exiting and relaunching the game in between instead of unequip/equip

 

Edit: I need to figure out what the hell I was doing with these. I'll put the files up on the troubleshooting post some time over the weekend.

 

Okay thank you, if the slaver's armbinder was added as an own option in bodyslide shouldn't that be able to fix the issue automatically by building like everything else? Also, I have a different question out of this topic:
how do you get this kind of hogtie position?
 

[ajmccssjoer]

Hi, when my character is equipped with a devious device her body disappears and then when the devious device comes off, her body reappears. Would love to see her body with the devices on her. Could you suggest how I could solve this problem.

Thank You

BashLoadOrders.dat

[muhavaux33]

5 minutes ago, ajmccssjoer said:

Hi, when my character is equipped with a devious device her body disappears and then when the devious device comes off, her body reappears. Would love to see her body with the devices on her. Could you suggest how I could solve this problem.

Thank You

BashLoadOrders.dat 825.04 kB · 0 downloads

Did you remember to build the outfits in bodyslide?

[ajmccssjoer]

I never knew you had to do that. I will try that and let you know how I make out.

Thanks

[Dead Endv1]

Do corsets cause staggering when shouting? I'm trying to find out if its a setting from another mod or something inherent to corsets.

 

If it is a feature is there a way to alter it? 

[afshin76]

Is there a 3ba version of this?

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, Dead Endv1 said:

Do corsets cause staggering when shouting? I'm trying to find out if its a setting from another mod or something inherent to corsets.

 

I have never tried to shout while wearing a restrictive corset, so I cannot confirm that feature, but it does conceptually make sense.

 

Google found a post from 2015 that does confirm what you are asking about:

 

 

[22tank]

 I'm getting no animation I loaded in and stuck some devices on my PC and no animation my hands just disappeared so I thought I forgot to run FNIS but when it ran it showed it detected them but still nothing I really can't give much more detail as I just started my game I can give my load order if needed its a pit of degeneracy tho

[keitsoru]

On 2/17/2021 at 2:54 PM, Daemones said:

Seem to be having a problem similar to zarantha.

 

DD Corsets seem to not show, but the item is in my inventory. When trying to equip I get the regular message of manipulating the locks or putting it on outright. I upgraded from 5.0 to 5.1 but issue persists

I'm having this exact same problem, and I'm at a loss for what's causing it. I've batch built the DD meshes several times, I've confirmed they're going to the right place. Corsets refuse to show up.

[fiewiel]

Its not because corsets are hidden? (default - not)

[keitsoru]

1 hour ago, fiewiel said:

Its not because corsets are hidden? (default - not)

No. I left the device hider on default settings. I've tried a fresh game.

The corsets that don't show up are able to be taken off, even when I get the message box and the option to lock it on.

I found two corsets that do show up, but then I start getting spammed with the message box.

 

EDIT: Given the above, I'm convinced something is causing the script not to fire on most of them, or to fail.

 

EDIT 2: It was Devious Adventures, which, thinking back, that makes sense. It hasn't been updated since late 2020. Credit goes to @alternateaccounts for tracking down the culprit previously. They just posted it over on Devious Adventures and didn't follow up here.

[zarantha]

On 3/5/2021 at 1:24 PM, muhavaux33 said:

Okay thank you, if the slaver's armbinder was added as an own option in bodyslide shouldn't that be able to fix the issue automatically by building like everything else? Also, I have a different question out of this topic:
 how do you get this kind of hogtie position?
 

 

All armbinders, regardless of what they are called in game use the same 4 meshes. A separate bodyslide is not needed. Slaver's armbinder is not from DD, but from DCL. Still DCL uses the DD meshes, so still no separate bodyslide is needed.

 

Slaver's Armbinder (dcur_hq_armbinderRendered / dcur_hq_armbinderInventory in the Armor section) = zadx_ElbowbinderEboniteAA (In DDx Armor Addon section)

 

zadx_ElbowbinderEboniteAA is the "DDX - CBBE SE - EboniteElbowbinder" - you should have that in bodyslide already - that is in DD 5.0 bodyslides. But as I mentioned before, I think I might have tweaked that more for DD 5.1, but since Kimy hasn't published the full mod conversion I gave her yet, it's not available. I'll go fix the outstanding stuff I have (leather elbowbinder, male SMP chains) and remind her again.

 

Try to struggle to get out of the items for the hogtie.

[zarantha]

16 hours ago, afshin76 said:

Is there a 3ba version of this?

 

Not updated for the new stuff in 5.0/5.1 yet, but yes.

 

 

[zarantha]

15 hours ago, 22tank said:

 I'm getting no animation I loaded in and stuck some devices on my PC and no animation my hands just disappeared so I thought I forgot to run FNIS but when it ran it showed it detected them but still nothing I really can't give much more detail as I just started my game I can give my load order if needed its a pit of degeneracy tho

 

Don't use DDa items to test with, use the DDx armbinders.

[afshin76]

5 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Not updated for the new stuff in 5.0/5.1 yet, but yes.

 

 

Would it break anything if I use this with 5.0?

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, keitsoru said:

I'm having this exact same problem, and I'm at a loss for what's causing it. I've batch built the DD meshes several times, I've confirmed they're going to the right place. Corsets refuse to show up.

 

My issue was never that corsets didn't show, but that they weren't using the combined mesh. That was my misunderstanding, they don't show as combined any more.

You've got a different issue.

 

If you've got DD for Him, try upgrading to DD 5.1. The upgrade files are on the troubleshooting post.

Make sure you don't have any other mods overwriting DD, with the exception of DCL. Old patches will break things.

Go through the conflicts in the troubleshooting post and make sure you don't have the conflicting mods. The symptoms may not always be the same.

 

[zarantha]

13 minutes ago, afshin76 said:

Would it break anything if I use this with 5.0?

 

No, it's just that your only options for bodyslides for the new items will be for CBBE SE, not 3BA. Your breasts may sometimes bounce out of the outfit, but that should be about all that happens.

[muhavaux33]

29 minutes ago, zarantha said:

Try to struggle to get out of the items for the hogtie.

what do you mean struggle? I'm asking how to get that hogtie position not how to struggle out of it

[zarantha]

7 minutes ago, muhavaux33 said:

what do you mean struggle? I'm asking how to get that hogtie position not how to struggle out of it

 

You need another mod to get into it. It's used in some of the DCL quests / traps that I'm aware of. I got stuck in that position once and had a hard time getting out, especially with all the reiklings not leaving me alone. I ended up loading a previous save because i was so screwed. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

It's called dcur_hogtie or maybe DCLHogtie, but I've no idea how to call idle animations on demand. I think elsidia explained to you on the DCL thread.

[22tank]

11 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Don't use DDa items to test with, use the DDx armbinders.

 

worked thx i was using the item spawner mod so if anyone else uses that dont go to deviousdevicesassets.esm go to deviousdevicesintergration.esm

[SacredDatura]

Couple of installer-related questions:

 

- does anyone have a video of what the cedec0 and MaikCG animation styles look like in motion? I've always used the default FeuerTin one but I'm a bit curious what the other ones look like.

 

- what is the red dress shown in this screenshot?

 

 

Thanks.

[zarantha]

On 3/4/2021 at 11:46 PM, muhavaux33 said:

This happens when wearing the "slaver's armbinder"
https://ibb.co/YcpSfzC
also, the armbinders which can be put on and on freely (the ones that aren't locked) glitch and cut half of my arms and don't put them inside the armbinder:
https://ibb.co/2WwGnfV
 

what is wrong?

 

Try the bodyslide files on the troubleshooting post to see if that fixes the slaver's armbinder (elbowbinder) for you.

 

 

[ajmccssjoer]

On 3/5/2021 at 4:59 PM, ajmccssjoer said:

I never knew you had to do that. I will try that and let you know how I make out.

Thanks

Thank you I followed your instructions and now they appear.