Molltov Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Are all the contraptions supposed to have struggle animations? A bunch don't for me including the torture pole. I've run fins and have no errors on that front and many of the other contraptions do have animations
Elsidia Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 10 hours ago, iquitous said: I just avoid those outfits now. List of outfits name? i can look on it in xedit, outfit studio. or maybe not outfits but shackles?
Elsidia Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 31 minutes ago, Molltov said: Are all the contraptions supposed to have struggle animations Seems no. Also animations is endless.
zarantha Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Skullriot said: i've been searching but i can't find a storefront mod that's for this version. Is there one out there? What do you mean by storefront? A store in game? There's Laura's bondage shop (from comments others have made) and Deviously Cursed Loot has a couple places you can buy or sell devices.
luggawag Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 5 hours ago, zarantha said: What do you mean by storefront? A store in game? There's Laura's bondage shop (from comments others have made) and Deviously Cursed Loot has a couple places you can buy or sell devices. I installed deviously cursed loot but i only want the shop, so in trying to troubleshoot it it just ended up being more trouble than it's worth. I didn't realize laura's bondage shop was up to date with all the items and worked in SE, so I will take a look.
Kimy Posted March 15, 2021 Author Posted March 15, 2021 Devious Devices 5.1 - Added: New MCM Toggle "Use Animation Filter for Creatures" that if disabled, will make DD bypass the animation filter completely when creatures are present in any animation. Otherwise, the filter will at least try to hide restraints etc. This toggle is meant as a debug/fallback solution if users are experiencing filter-related issues with creature animations. - Fixed: The animation filter is now using a workaround preventing it from occasionally replacing animations when SexLab's internal state isn't ready for it. Stuck/Stacked/T-boned etc. animations should no longer happen. - Fixed: The API function GetWornRenderedDeviceByKeyword(Actor a, Keyword kw) no longer returns non-DD items as valid results. This will also prevent SwapDevices() from mistakenly deleting non-DD items from the inventory. - Fixed: The MCM "Use Bound Animations" toggle actually works now! - Fixed: The prisoner chains had its HDT setup fixed. The item should no longer glitch. - Fixed: The Heavy Bondage effect is now removed properly upon device unlock. - Fixed: If the DestroyOnRemove device property is set to true, the item will now also get properly removed if the device is not a quest device. - Fixed: DD For Him had several devices fixed. - Fixed: The vibrate effect message has been shortened to fit in one line. - Fixed: Straitjackets that would realistically allow vaginal/anal intercourse now do so. Install instructions: Just install, no new savegame required. 9
NiX10 Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Nice, what about the 3bbb bodyslides?, i know its prob common question and it might be annyoing, but it would be nice to have proper physics on new devices.
Dude2000 Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, NiX10 said: Nice, what about the 3bbb bodyslides?, i know its prob common question and it might be annyoing, but it would be nice to have proper physics on new devices. Yes, I would like to support this. For me it is a necessary condition before the update. Or is the previous version still good? Perhaps if no devices were changed...
NiX10 Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dude2000 said: Yes, I would like to support this. For me it is a necessary condition before the update. Or is the previous version still good? Perhaps if no devices were changed... this still works but you won't have breast physics on new devices that version 5.0 added
zarantha Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, NiX10 said: Nice, what about the 3bbb bodyslides?, i know its prob common question and it might be annyoing, but it would be nice to have proper physics on new devices. 23 minutes ago, Dude2000 said: Yes, I would like to support this. For me it is a necessary condition before the update. Or is the previous version still good? Perhaps if no devices were changed... 3BBB is not popular enough to be included. So it will not be officially included until/if it reaches CBBE and UNP popularity. Until then, use the 4.3 conversion. It's missing the new outfits, but everything else will work. Grummkol is working on updating the bodyslides. Or if I get annoyed enough at it enough myself, I may do my own unless he finishes first, but don't expect me to do it soon. I spent 4+ months on the CBBE SE bodyslides, not looking forward to doing more. 1
Herowynne Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 @zarantha I downloaded and installed DD 5.1 and compared it to DD 5.0 plus your 5.1 delta patch. I installed the UUNP version in the FOMOD. It seems like DD 5.1 is missing several Bodyslide files that were included with DD 5.0. Some files are different, which is to be expected. The missing files seem like a problem. The files are mostly related to the Heretical restraints and piercings. Spoiler differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01x2 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01x3 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01x4 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - Prisoner Chains (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - Prisoner Chains (NOHDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - Prisoner Chains (NOHDT).osd differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\HR_HarnessBoots01HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\HR_HarnessBoots02HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\HR_HarnessGlovesHDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BBYoke01\HR_BBYoke01.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BBYoke01\HR_BBYoke01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BreastChainCollar\HR_BreastChainCollar.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BreastChainCollar\HR_BreastChainCollar.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarness\HR_ChainHarness.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarness\HR_ChainHarness.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessArms\HR_ChainHarnessArms.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessArms\HR_ChainHarnessArms.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessBustier\HR_ChainHarnessBustier.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessBustier\HR_ChainHarnessBustier.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessLegs\HR_ChainHarnessLegs.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessLegs\HR_ChainHarnessLegs.osd differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessBoots01HDT\HR_HarnessBoots01HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessBoots02HDT\HR_HarnessBoots02HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessGlovesHDT\HR_HarnessGlovesHDT.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_NippleClamp01\HR_NippleClamps01.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_NippleClamp01\HR_NippleClamps01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing01\HR_Piercing01.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing01\HR_Piercing01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing03\HR_Piercing03.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing03\HR_Piercing03.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots01\HR_RestrictiveBoots01.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots01\HR_RestrictiveBoots01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots02\HR_RestrictiveBoots02.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots02\HR_RestrictiveBoots02.osd differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderGroups\DD Framework UUNP.xml missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderGroups\DDX_Heretical.xml missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_BreastChainCollar.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarness.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessArms.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessBustier.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessCuffs.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessLegs.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessBoots01HDT.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessBoots02HDT.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessGlovesHDT.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_NippleClamps01.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_Piercing01.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_Piercing03.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_RestrictiveBoots01.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_RestrictiveBoots02.osp
zarantha Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Herowynne said: @zarantha I downloaded and installed DD 5.1 and compared it to DD 5.0 plus your 5.1 delta patch. I installed the UUNP version in the FOMOD. It seems like DD 5.1 is missing several Bodyslide files that were included with DD 5.0. Some files are different, which is to be expected. The missing files seem like a problem. The files are mostly related to the Heretical restraints and piercings. Reveal hidden contents differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01x2 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01x3 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - CollarChain01x4 (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - Prisoner Chains (HDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - Prisoner Chains (NOHDT).nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\DDX - Prisoner Chains (NOHDT).osd differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\HR_HarnessBoots01HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\HR_HarnessBoots02HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDHotFix\HR_HarnessGlovesHDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BBYoke01\HR_BBYoke01.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BBYoke01\HR_BBYoke01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BreastChainCollar\HR_BreastChainCollar.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_BreastChainCollar\HR_BreastChainCollar.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarness\HR_ChainHarness.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarness\HR_ChainHarness.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessArms\HR_ChainHarnessArms.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessArms\HR_ChainHarnessArms.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessBustier\HR_ChainHarnessBustier.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessBustier\HR_ChainHarnessBustier.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs\HR_ChainHarnessCuffs.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessLegs\HR_ChainHarnessLegs.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_ChainHarnessLegs\HR_ChainHarnessLegs.osd differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessBoots01HDT\HR_HarnessBoots01HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessBoots02HDT\HR_HarnessBoots02HDT.nif differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessGlovesHDT\HR_HarnessGlovesHDT.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_NippleClamp01\HR_NippleClamps01.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_NippleClamp01\HR_NippleClamps01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing01\HR_Piercing01.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing01\HR_Piercing01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing03\HR_Piercing03.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_Piercing03\HR_Piercing03.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots01\HR_RestrictiveBoots01.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots01\HR_RestrictiveBoots01.osd missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots02\HR_RestrictiveBoots02.nif missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_RestrictiveBoots02\HR_RestrictiveBoots02.osd differs CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderGroups\DD Framework UUNP.xml missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderGroups\DDX_Heretical.xml missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_BreastChainCollar.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarness.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessArms.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessBustier.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessCuffs.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_ChainHarnessLegs.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessBoots01HDT.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessBoots02HDT.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessGlovesHDT.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_NippleClamps01.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_Piercing01.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_Piercing03.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_RestrictiveBoots01.osp missing CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_RestrictiveBoots02.osp I reworked the SMP chains so that they shouldn't CBBE or UNP specific, and they should all be in DDHotFix except for the chain harness. Otherwise I just copy/pasted UNP in there from the LE 5.1, and maybe cleanup up duplicates in addition to adding the binder bodyslides.. This last rework included the male and beast races too, and changed the SMP xml names so they won't conflict if Kimy includes the PE xmls again in her patch updates. So yes, the modded ones should be fine. I see what happened. I cleaned up the 00core folder so it was just ddhotfix (trying to save some space), because CBBE has it's own versions of those files. Heretical was not in UNP, it's in core for some weird reason. I blame the fk'd up file structure. These should be all that's missing. I have them in my modded files so I know what needs replaced with the new versions, hopefully that will prevent me from missing them again. Let me know if you see any other issues with the UNP stuff. I really hate UNP now, you know. ? UNP Heretical DD 5.1 SE.7z
Wonders of Eros Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 12 hours ago, zarantha said: 3BBB is not popular enough to be included. So it will not be officially included until/if it reaches CBBE and UNP popularity. Until then, use the 4.3 conversion. It's missing the new outfits, but everything else will work. Grummkol is working on updating the bodyslides. Or if I get annoyed enough at it enough myself, I may do my own unless he finishes first, but don't expect me to do it soon. I spent 4+ months on the CBBE SE bodyslides, not looking forward to doing more. Listen, this is your mod, so I will not flame you for not supporting CBBE 3BA, but do not lie to these people. A quick glance at the clothing section on the SSE nexus is more than enough to inform anyone that CBBE 3BA and BHUNP have largely supplanted vanilla CBBE and UNP in popular use. TBD, CBBE SMP and CBBE SMP 3BBB are the only other popular options, but these were already starting to fall out of favor in spring of last year, and I suspect these will eventually stop being supported considering how much traffic has been rediverted to CBBE 3BA (or to BHUNP among Japanese and Korean users). The vast majority of female clothing mods released on the nexus within the last 16 months support CBBE 3BA, and in the few cases where they do not, they almost always have support for CBBE 3BBB SMP, which is much less popular but very similar to CBBE 3BA. Seeing as we are all sex fanatics here on LL, my intuition leads me to suspect that people in our community are probably far more likely - than your average non-NSFW SSE player - to use body physics. I think it is highly unlikely that people on here have stuck to vanilla CBBE or vanilla UNP. 1
Elsidia Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, Coalstorm said: I think it is highly unlikely that people on here have stuck to vanilla CBBE or vanilla UNP. It's taste of own sense. I have body physics on CBBE using HDT SMP. Also breasts physics on 3BBB was awful. When player run breasts hanging on your back. But when starts sex scene... i'm not say anything. I delete 3BBB at the same moment)
zarantha Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Coalstorm said: Listen, this is your mod, so I will not flame you for not supporting CBBE 3BA, but do not lie to these people. See, that's the thing. It's not my mod. I can't add in something kimy doesn't support. Kind of a bummer, since I do prefer 3BBB. The other issue here is adding another set of bodyslides will increase the download size and we already have people bitching about it being 2gb zipped. Body physics are there, even for the 'base' mods. You don't need 3bbb/bhunp to get SMP physics. What those bodies do is add in vagina and anus meshes, and increase the number of bones in the breasts to give a better movement. CBBE SE == 1,305,858 unique / 4,192,568 total UNP SE == 942,814 unique / 2,739,139 total 3BBB (CBBE 3BA) == 224,595 unique / 530,559 total CBBE SMP (3BBB) == 176,300 unique / 312,718 total BHUNP == 76,136 unique / 173,380 total TBD == 126,636 unique / 247,721 total https://www.loverslab.com/topic/69936-devious-devices-framework-developmentbeta/?do=findComment&comment=3159287 Quote Generally, my stance regarding supporting new body mods other than CBBE and UUNP is that it's not going to happen unless there are dramatic changes in the popularity of body mods. I don't know the current situation, particularly not SE-side (I have no SE installation), but unless a new body took over at least 1/3 of the market, I'd not even think about supporting it. Ok, not quite what I remembered, so that is on me. So 3BBB yes is at the point where she will consider it now. BHUNP is still not even close. 3BBB wasn't last year when I asked her about it, and it's still no guarantee she will allow it. If she does, it won't be fast. It will take me months to go through and update what's clipping now and add the new outfits. I have asked again on the dev thread. Edit: fixed the numbers. 3
mikesolo1975 Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Coalstorm said: Listen, this is your mod, so I will not flame you for not supporting CBBE 3BA, but do not lie to these people. A quick glance at the clothing section on the SSE nexus is more than enough to inform anyone that CBBE 3BA and BHUNP have largely supplanted vanilla CBBE and UNP in popular use. TBD, CBBE SMP and CBBE SMP 3BBB are the only other popular options, but these were already starting to fall out of favor in spring of last year, and I suspect these will eventually stop being supported considering how much traffic has been rediverted to CBBE 3BA (or to BHUNP among Japanese and Korean users). The vast majority of female clothing mods released on the nexus within the last 16 months support CBBE 3BA, and in the few cases where they do not, they almost always have support for CBBE 3BBB SMP, which is much less popular but very similar to CBBE 3BA. Seeing as we are all sex fanatics here on LL, my intuition leads me to suspect that people in our community are probably far more likely - than your average non-NSFW SSE player - to use body physics. I think it is highly unlikely that people on here have stuck to vanilla CBBE or vanilla UNP. people stop please whith that. i use cbbe 3bbb body and devious devices 4.3 for now. i am waiting too for the bodyslides files. but we need have the patience . the modders and the supporters have a life and family too. you say zarantha its a liar. sorry for that but your are crazy or what. zarantha is the personne helps more people than others. its help in the all loverslab. i ask for more patience and respect according to each person's taste.
Wonders of Eros Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, zarantha said: See, that's the thing. It's not my mod. I can't add in something kimy doesn't support. Kind of a bummer, since I do prefer 3BBB. The other issue here is adding another set of bodyslides will increase the download size and we already have people bitching about it being 2gb zipped. Body physics are there, even for the 'base' mods. You don't need 3bbb/bhunp to get SMP physics. What those bodies do is add in vagina and anus meshes, and increase the number of bones in the breasts to give a better movement. CBBE SE == 4.1m downloads / 85,893 endorsements UNP SE == 2.7m downloads / 51,868 endorsements 3BBB (CBBE 3BA) == 1.5m downloads / 11,497 endorsements 3BBB SMP == 1m downloads / 8,089 endorsements BHUNP == 172,917 downloads / 2,975 endorsements TBD == 126,535 downloads / 4,868 endorsements https://www.loverslab.com/topic/69936-devious-devices-framework-developmentbeta/?do=findComment&comment=3159287 Ok, not quite what I remembered, so that is on me. So 3BBB yes is at the point where she will consider it now. BHUNP is still not even close. 3BBB wasn't last year when I asked her about it, and it's still no guarantee she will allow it. If she does, it won't be fast. It will take me months to go through and update what's clipping now and add the new outfits. I have asked again on the dev thread. Thanks for the quick and enlightening response. I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment. I must also say that - in that I have been here for as long as I have - I feel quite stupid for forgetting that it is actually @Kimy who is behind the original mod. Thank you for reminding me Also, sorry @Kimy! 2 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said: people stop please whith that. i use cbbe 3bbb body and devious devices 4.3 for now. i am waiting too for the bodyslides files. but we need have the patience . the modders and the supporters have a life and family too. you say zarantha its a liar. sorry for that but your are crazy or what. zarantha is the personne helps more people than others. its help in the all loverslab. i ask for more patience and respect according to each person's taste. I actually included a preface, but perhaps you missed it. So, in case you did not read it; I was not flaming @zarantha at all, but rather, merely calling them out on a statement they made that was rather inaccurate. If you look at the numbers - that they were so kind as to include in their response -, it is clear which body mod has had the most momentum, seeing as the latter four were the only ones directly relevant to our exchange. Furthermore, you accuse me of calling @zarantha a liar, and while I can understand how one could possibly get such an impression from what I said, this was never my intention. I said that they were wrong about the popularity of CBBE 3BA and then proceeded - in an admittedly half-assed manner - to inform them about the general situation. However, judging from their response, it would seem to have been a statement resulting from lack of knowledge, rather than a lie made with the intent to get people of said person's back about 3BA BodySlide conversions. The truth is that most creators are too busy to keep themselves informed on the progress of other mods, so I already somewhat suspected beforehand that this would be the case. Just know that I would never accuse @zarantha (or any other creator on this site, for that matter) of being dishonest, unless they have done so repeatedly and/or with an apparent intent to deceive. Moreover, and to me a bit more insulting, you accuse me of being impatient, but I actually have very little interest in newer versions of the mod due to the fact that a significant portion of LL mods still - and more importantly, ALWAYS WILL - rely on version 4.3 because their creators (1) left the community, (2) refuse to let others adopt their mods, or (3) are too busy with other things to get around to updating their mods. I would love to upgrade, but sadly, that is the situation that we are in. All that being said, this does not mean that I have lost my interest entirely, and I try to keep myself somewhat updated on the progress of most mods I have used or would like to use in the future. That is why I am here now.
puttputt Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 on behalf of 21k people please prioritise SE over oldrim 3
Rynnes Master Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 What he said (puttputt) ^^. I shifted to SE more than 2 years ago, after running LE since the beginning of the first era. Why anyone would stick with memory-restricted LE is beyond me, but to each their own. The numbers (and thanks, PuttPutt for posting them) speak for themselves. And so does my stable, super-modded game. Finally.
yeahhowaboutnooo Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 @zarantha it believe you got your numbers mixed up: 3BA has 1.5m views, and "only" 500k downloads nevertheless: what should also be considered is that 3ba has cbbe se as a dependency -> every single 3ba download has at least one cbbe-se download is grummkol still working on 3BA bodyslide files ? Last time grummkol signed in was december last year. And the last update to those files is 1 year and 1 day old.... (reported a bug with the restricted gloves e.g. in august last year, fixed it for myself) If you want i can also start working on 3BA bodyslides on my spare time (Is a new mod-download page mentioning all who have worked on DD, akin to grummkols page enough?) In the mean time: i'm using the 4.3 bodyslide files with 5.0/5.1 and thus far i haven't noticed any major issues. Last but not least: thanks for all the time and effort you guys put into these mods 1
zarantha Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 33 minutes ago, yeahhowaboutnooo said: your numbers mixed up dammit, i did. i'll have to recheck, which will likely change things. As far as I know, grummkol is working on it. He doesn't provide me with updates. If you want to work on them, that's fine with me. I am literally bodyslided out after DD 5.x. I may still do it, but i'm really not motivated at the moment. I'd prefer keeping them on grummkol's page, or if you give me a link, I can put it on the troubleshooting post. I think two pages would be confusing to some folks. I changed a lot of things under the covers to make things work in a 'pure' smp environment - the main thing for converting to 3bbb is some bodies under the outfits have been chopped to pieces, to prevent clipping. If you chop them up wrong, they do weird shit if you modify the sliders.
zarantha Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Coalstorm said: . So all that checking i did on numbers and I looked at the wrong ones. Not my week lol. No, I didn't take offense, although your wording was a little much. I know how hard it is to convey tone through text media, so I try to take it with a grain of salt. If it turns out the fixed numbers don't support including with DD, we'll still get an updated version of the outfits out one way or another some time. Until then, the 4.3 bodyslides are a good base. As mentioned before, I am bodyslided out at the moment, but I haven't dropped the idea. Either grummkol, or I, or another volunteer will get it updated. 1
BraveBunny Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 Hey peep's. I have an issue where my character uses a DD bound animation when idle with no weapon drawn instead of the vanilla idle animation. I've had a bit of a look around but cant really figure it out. Here's my load order in case it helps: Spoiler *Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp *CreatureFramework.esm *SexLab.esm *SexLabAroused.esm *Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm *High Poly Head.esm *BeeingFemale.esm *SGEyebrows.esp *Campfire.esm *ZaZAnimationPack.esm *ApachiiHair.esm *ApachiiHairFemales.esm *Devious Devices - Assets.esm *Devious Devices - Integration.esm *daymoyl.esm *Devious Devices - Expansion.esm *Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm *SkyUI_SE.esp *ELFX - Exteriors.esp *ELFX - Weathers.esp *FNIS.esp *SLAnimLoader.esp *RaceMenu.esp *RaceMenuPlugin.esp *Schlongs of Skyrim.esp *SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp *SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp *RaceMenuHH.esp *KS Hairdo's.esp *Immersive Arousal.esp *SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp *EnhancedLightsandFX.esp *SkyRe_Main.esp *SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp *SexLab-Stories.esp *zThingsInDark.esp *MoreNastyCritters.esp *Hunterborn.esp *RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp *animal_mansion.esp *sanguinesDebauchery.esp *Slaverun_Reloaded.esp *Slaves of Tamriel.esp *SexLab Beastess.esp *BeastessLair.esp *SkyRe_Races.esp *SkyRe_Combat.esp *SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp *SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp *SkyRe_HelmlessPerks.esp *SkyRe_StandingStones.esp *ZAZpatch.esp *SLALAnimObj.esp *SLAL_K4Anims.esp *NibblesAnimObjects.esp *SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp *SOSRaceMenu.esp *XPMSE.esp *AnubAnimObj.esp *SexLabTools.esp *SexLabDefeat.esp *UIExtensions.esp *TheEyesOfBeauty.esp *Brows.esp *FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp *BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp *ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp *SimpleSlavery.esp *Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp *Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp *Hunterborn_RealisticNeeds_Patch_GH56.esp *AIMFIX.esp *UltimateDragons.esp *Goddess.esp *3BBB.esp *SlaveTats.esp *AutoHideAmmo.esp *AddItemMenuSE.esp *BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp *CBBE.esp *RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp *Prison.esp *Solar's Portable Crafting.esp *SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp *ReProccer.esp *C98CosmeticOverride.esp *Devious Devices For Him.esp *Devious Devices SE patch.esp *Devious Devices - BRRF.esp *Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp I apologize in advance if its something super obvious and i'm just being obtuse.
yeahhowaboutnooo Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, zarantha said: As far as I know, grummkol is working on it. He doesn't provide me with updates. you obviously don't have to answer, but: have you heard from grummkol more recently than dec. 9th?
zarantha Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, yeahhowaboutnooo said: you obviously don't have to answer, but: have you heard from grummkol more recently than dec. 9th? No I haven't. The last post I saw from him was the 6th.
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