framework Advanced Animation Framework

[bloody_revan]

i don' get it to work, everytime i press the homebutton my game crashs

 

my load order:

 

GameMode=Fallout4

Fallout4.esm=1
DLCRobot.esm=1
DLCworkshop01.esm=1
DLCCoast.esm=1
DLCworkshop02.esm=1
DLCworkshop03.esm=1
DLCNukaWorld.esm=1
Arbitration - Resources.esm=1
Homemaker.esm=1
SettlementKeywords.esm=1
DLC_MainMenu.esm=1
CRP - Community Restraints Pack.esm=1
HUDFramework.esm=1
ArmorKeywords.esm=1
four_play_resources.esm=1
SimSettlements.esm=1
TortureDevices.esm=1
FCOM.esm=1
Knockout Framework.esm=0
AAF.esm=1
CBBE.esp=1
OCDispenser.esp=1
VendorCaps_1000.esp=1
LongerPowerLines3x.esp=1
IncreasedSettlerPopulation50.esp=1
NoObjectLimit.esp=1
Vault Meat Paintings.esp=1
Arbitration - Button Lowered Weapons.esp=1
Arbitration - 3rd Person Gun Up by Default.esp=1
Taboolicious_StreetBrawler.esp=1
AnsBikinisAndSwimsuits1-4.esp=1
ProtoLining.esp=1
DX Chem I Care Outfit.esp=1
DX Commonwealth Mini Dresses.esp=1
BostonJacketFatiguesMod.esp=1
LongCoatVaultSuit.esp=1
Craftable Armor Size.esp=0
BusySettlersRug.esp=1
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp=1
HairVariations_YoungAtHeart.esp=1
HairVariations_FairyTails.esp=1
HairVariations_Elegant.esp=1
HairVariations_Sophisticate.esp=1
HairVariations_Conversions.esp=1
slootyVaultSuit.esp=1
OCDecorator - No Experience.esp=0
SkjAlert_RS-.esp=1
EferasSandbagsDefenceWall.esp=1
slootySynthUniform.esp=0
VATST_CombatAdd_CrippleAndReverseOff.esp=1
U_VATS_CritHitBar.esp=1
WLightSaber.esp=1
VATST_Distance_7500.esp=1
U_VATS_HitChance_95.esp=1
VATST_Targeting_Pause.esp=1
PowerArmorDelivery.esp=1
MAU.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC03.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC01.esp=1
Business Settlements.esp=1
AutoStimpak.esp=0
Eli_Utility Jumpsuits.esp=0
Eli_Sleeveless Outfits.esp=1
SuitDreams(5.Very Heavy).esp=0
SuitDreams(1.Very Light).esp=0
SuitDreams(2. Light).esp=1
SuitDreams(3.Average).esp=0
SuitDreams(4.Heavy).esp=0
Harness-calyps.esp=0
DX Adventurer Outfit.esp=0
Crafting Workbench.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=0
Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp=1
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1
Spartan-Calyps-NoAE.esp=1
AK_IF88Standalone.esp=0
Weapon Crafting Station.esp=1
TakeCover.esp=1
Dark Drifter.esp=1
Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp=0
GITS_suit_by_OniNigma.esp=1
NSA DLCRobot.esp=1
NSA Fallout4.esp=1
Rangergearnew.esp=1
WastelandFashion.esp=1
WastelandFashionAccessories.esp=1
BasementLiving.esp=1
keyNuker_keys_de.esp=1
FO4Hotkeys.esp=1
Gurl.esp=1
el_precursorsuit.esp=1
ShadeArmorIV.esp=1
AK47.esp=1
WCS_AK47Standalone.esp=1
M2216.esp=1
WCS_M2216Standalone.esp=1
M9.esp=1
WCS_M9Standalone.esp=1
AK_AK47Standalone.esp=1
AK_LightsaberStandalone.esp=0
AK_M9Standalone.esp=1
USP 45.esp=1
WCS_USP45Standalone.esp=1
personalvertibird.esp=0
Locksmith.esp=0
VATST_BulletFlyAdd_x3Faster.esp=1
NeutralVertibirdEN.esp=1
NeutralVertibirdEN No Combat.esp=1
NeutralVertibirdDE.esp=1
Outlawer_MetroConflict.esp=1
PipboyRemover.esp=0
Motoko Hair.esp=0
ApalLeotard.esp=1
rfortaleza2.esp=1
AkaSinger.esp=1
AkaSingersWardrobe.esp=1
Craftable Shower.esp=1
NoDeathWeaponDrop.esp=1
mso_sms.esp=1
BosVertibirdDLCLocations.esp=1
AutoDoors.esp=1
Prisoner Shackles.esp=1
Flags of the Old World.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects SK.esp=1
Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp=1
NoCameraFilters.esp=1
Depth of Field Removal.esp=1
MGSBB.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk1.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk2.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk3.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk4.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk5.esp=1
rfortaleza2-mk6.esp=1
Sneaky Kills.esp=1
StabAnim4All.esp=1
Sneak Rank 5 Perk - Subtle Effect.esp=1
VATST_BulletFly.esp=1
DOOMSCARLK.esp=1
TNR Shoulder Lamp.esp=1
TNR Shoulder Lamp - Settings.esp=1
AA Lets Dance.esp=0
rpampas.esp=1
PrivateVertibird.esp=1
wasterArmor.esp=1
SettlersRename.esp=1
CompanionWhistle.esp=1
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp=1
YoungLaraCroftFacePreset_2.esp=1
CROSS_Swimsuit.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.esp=1
FunctionalDisplays-MISC-Vanilla.esp=0
keyNuker_cards_de.esp=1
Give Me That Bottle.esp=0
Animated Drinking.esp=1
SchoolDeskObject.esp=1
ForcePowers.esp=1
Crimsomrider's Slavery Mod.esp=1
Eli_NukaStuff.esp=0
Armorsmith Extended.esp=1
MODGirlyAnimation.esp=0
Extended weapon mods.esp=1
Vault98.esp=1
subwayrunnnerdynamiclighting.esp=1
ASmallAdditionStandaloneDrivablesBoat2.esp=1
AA FusionCityRising.esp=1
AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp=1
HazelwoodManor.esp=0
RedWaveReloaded.esp=1
D13SynthSpyDetectionElimination.esp=0
SneakPerkNerfMinesTrapsONLY.esp=1
JC-Bikini.esp=1
MinigunDamage.esp=1
dD-Enhanced Blood.esp=1
dD - MoreBloodandBits.esp=1
MoritasBattleRifle.esp=1
OCDecorator.esp=1
SKE_OCD_Patch.esp=1
DLC_MainMenu_Handplaced.esp=1
DLC_PATCH_Full.esp=1
WastelandWorkshopPatch.esp=1
DLC_OCD_Patch.esp=1
DLC_SKE_Patch.esp=1
AA HotC - Standalone - SE.esp=1
DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp=0
DesertEagle50AE.esp=0
B-90.esp=0
zWInsanity.esp=0
WCS_KatanaStandalone.esp=0
AK_KatanaStandalone.esp=0
VIO_Strap-On.esp=1
LMBTOverlays.esp=1
FP_Stats.esp=1
Abduction.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
CheatTerminal.esp=1
Orphans.esp=0
FCOM.esp=1
NanoSuit.esp=1
Wasteland Water Revival - Caribbean Blue.esp=1
Conquest.esp=1
G36Complex.esp=1
F4SS.esp=1
SimSettlements_AddOnPack_Utilities_JtBryant.esp=1
CraftableAmmo.esp=1
CraftableAmmo_plus.esp=1
RugerAC556.esp=0
Campsite.esp=1
M1Garand.esp=1
SM500-Centre de Recrutement.esp=1
DX_Black_Widow.esp=1
DPAssaultCarbine.esp=1
CompVictoria.esp=1
HuntingShotgun.esp=1
TeleportGrenade.esp=1
AQUILA.esp=1
ColtDeltaElite_Standalone.esp=1
AkaWaterWorld.esp=1
Scavenged NCR Armor.esp=1
Vertibird Alt Fix - Far Harbor.esp=1
CWSS Redux.esp=1
Orphans-DCMS.esp=0
M1Garand - AWKCR.esp=1
_Gurl.esp=1
AK2047.esp=1
ModularKalash.esp=1
R91M.esp=1
WCS_R91Standalone.esp=1
M14.esp=1
SCAR-LK.esp=1
WCS-M14Standalone.esp=1
AK_R91Standalone.esp=1
MP153.esp=0
WCS_AK2047Standalone.esp=1
AK_AK2047Standalone.esp=1
G3.esp=0
WCS_G3Standalone.esp=0
Kukri1.1.0.esp=0
HoloTime.esp=1
SlowTime.esp=1
EferasShoulderBag.esp=0
ALD Travel Backpack.esp=0
EFF.esp=0
FP_Prostitution.esp=1
NewNeonEyes.esp=1
FO4LaserBolts - InstituteRoyalBlue.esp=1
FO4LaserBolts.esp=1
MiscHairstyle.esp=1
Smoke-able Cigars.esp=1
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=0
AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp=0
b_lpampas.esp=1
AbductionNamedNPCs.esp=1
Vinfamy_CP.esp=1
Simple Artillery Strikes.esp=1
PIP-Pad.esp=1
Settlement_Markers.esp=1
LureEnemies.esp=0
M16.esp=1
Armorsmith Eferas Extended.esp=1
Armorsmith Proto Vault Suit Extended.esp=1
Armorsmith DeserterX Extended.esp=1
Macs_NEO_Selene.esp=1
FemsheppingsPorts_LeahLilithAndKalilies_AWKCR_AE.esp=1
Crimsomrider's Accessories.esp=1
Quiet.esp=1
Crazy_Animation_Rugs.esp=1
4PlaySEU.esp=1
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp=1
THBrows.esp=0
PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp=1
Companion Infinite Ammo.esp=0
PoseTemplate.esp=1
Dongs_Of_Fallout.esp=0
Schlong.esp=0
Pet - Call -Feed Dogmeat.esp=1
LightsaberMod.esp=1
Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp=1
DavesPoses.esp=1
Safe SSEx.esp=1
Settlement Keywords SSEX Patch.esp=1
Snap and Build - Capsule.esp=0
InstaBell.esp=0
Skibs-IF54Redux.esp=0
FunctionalDisplays-AID-Vanilla.esp=0
PoseIt.esp=1
Shino Poses.esp=1
Sun's Poses.esp=1
SettlementMenuManager.esp=1
SSAOP_SamutzVault88.esp=1
LooksMenu.esp=1
cutoffs-calyps.esp=0
Armorsmith Calyps Extended.esp=0
SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp=1
NCRDesertRavenArmor.esp=1
DarkerNights.esp=1
DarkerNightsDetection.esp=1
PersonalGuard.esp=1
VaultMeatGirlV2.0.esp=0
UniquePlayer.esp=0
SavageCabbage_Animations.esp=1
four_play.esp=1
NPC_Raid_Spawner.esp=1
PCDugSIMAddon.esp=1
SSEX.esp=1
AAF_Four-Play_Animations_Crazy6987.esp=1
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp=1
CumNWealth.esp=1
Scrap Everything.esp=1
 

[Gulfwulf]

In regards to the whole equipment issue, I seem to be getting extra PipBoys for some reason. They only show up when I access an armor bench so I don't know if it's this mod or another that's causing the issue. My character is male and I'm using SEU to initiate sex. Here's my load order:

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
NPCScaling.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
Homemaker.esm
HUDFramework.esm
SimSettlements.esm
VotWMaster.esm
AAF.esm
LooksMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
BetterJunkFences.esp
BetterGenerators.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
UltraInteriorLighting.esp
PlayerComments.esp
IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp
BLGUNS.esp
Classic Combat Armor.esp
Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
EasyLockpicking.esp
EasyHacking.esp
DiverseBodies.esp
Crafting Workbench.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
HoloTime.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp
Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp
LongerPowerLines3x.esp
mcgFemaleWalk.esp
mcgFemaleWalk-Granny-eng.esp
Minutemen Paint Job.esp
MMP4APA-blue.esp
More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
NSA All-in-One.esp
Perks Shmerks 2.4 full.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
JLS Power Armor Battery Drain vA.esp
PowerLinePhysics.esp
QuickTrade.esp
Quieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
Swinging Meat Bags.esp
Vivid Fallout.esp
AkaMoveYourWorkbench.esp
WorkshopsProduceAcid.esp
[777] Sanctuary - Reworked Roads.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
My_Minutemen.esp
Better Cooking Stations.esp
Better Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.esp
Crimsomrider's Convenient Resources.esp
FCEjectNoMore.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Galaxy News Radio.esp
BuildingGroundFix.esp
MoveWorkshopItems-Capsafe.esp
VotWSpecialVideos.esp
SimHomestead.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
GoodOldCartoonsVolumeI.esp
WaitAnywhere.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
KSHairdos.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
four_play.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
FP_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
4PlaySEU.esp
PlayerComments_IceBreakerCDO-Piper_Patch.esp
PlayerComments_IcebreakerCDO-Settlements_MainVersion_Patch.esp
PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
StartMeUp.esp
PlayerCommentsStartMeUpFDPPatch.esp
FO4 merged patch.esp

 

[Sulphur.999]

5 hours ago, Drapo said:

i was already using that patch...i've seen no difference between that patch and the unequip option when you first install AFF

This makes me think that something is installed wrong then, as in the patches aren't overwriting the right files in the right order. Or something. Not saying you didn't follow directions, just commenting on what the result looks like. AAF has it's own strip xml. When polistro was working on the Leito patches he made his xml because AAF didn't strip super mutants at all. So he made that xml to just grab everything. If yours isn't doing that, something is wrong. Unfortunately I'm not so knowledgeable that I can just look at an error and just KNOW what's wrong. I get ideas and try 'em.

Mine is working on those files tho. I install like this: Make sure Looksmenu is installed and working. Install AAF. Then animations. Then compatibility patch. Then Polistro's patches. Then dependencies for animation packs. I can't imagine why it would work on mine but not yours. All I can think is something got missed. I know I screw mine up all the time and I've been using AAF for a while now.

I'm reading this and it doesn't sound all that helpful. Just try to get an idea of things to try I guess. I know Polistro installs his patches before the compatibility patch. Maybe try that? Play with it. You learn more each fuck up. At least, that's how I learn. I got a save folder full of borked saves.

[Drapo]

34 minutes ago, Sulphur.4724 said:

This makes me think that something is installed wrong then, as in the patches aren't overwriting the right files in the right order. Or something. Not saying you didn't follow directions, just commenting on what the result looks like. AAF has it's own strip xml. When polistro was working on the Leito patches he made his xml because AAF didn't strip super mutants at all. So he made that xml to just grab everything. If yours isn't doing that, something is wrong. Unfortunately I'm not so knowledgeable that I can just look at an error and just KNOW what's wrong. I get ideas and try 'em.

Mine is working on those files tho. I install like this: Make sure Looksmenu is installed and working. Install AAF. Then animations. Then compatibility patch. Then Polistro's patches. Then dependencies for animation packs. I can't imagine why it would work on mine but not yours. All I can think is something got missed. I know I screw mine up all the time and I've been using AAF for a while now.

I'm reading this and it doesn't sound all that helpful. Just try to get an idea of things to try I guess. I know Polistro installs his patches before the compatibility patch. Maybe try that? Play with it. You learn more each fuck up. At least, that's how I learn. I got a save folder full of borked saves.

nah i got you...havent tested with mutants and i could be mistaken on what i'm seeing   but i do know that with and without that patch certain modular armors are not being removed. gonna put his out there again..everything else with AFF seems to be working just fine and vanilla armors as well as non modular mod armors do get removed.

 

also when installing that patch it did ask to overide

[kraoro]

7 hours ago, dagobaking said:

Sounds like outdated or incorrectly installed F4SE. Or maybe some other mod overwrote a plugin script.

The only thing I can think of is that I had installed Four Play before, but then never used it and mostly forgot about it. I did use the 4P patches while installing AAF, but maybe I need to also reinstall 4P. If I do end up going that route, should I disable/delete the Four Play .esps, or should I leave them on, and if they're on, are they higher or lower than AAF in the load order?

[Khajiirah]

On 7/8/2018 at 9:00 PM, CGi said:

Are you sure you have the AAFCP and it's male body installed?

Thanks, yes i have, but i figured out my Problem. Threre was a Patch for Leitos Animations, Crazys Animations and also AAF. After installing it, and choosing some options while installing the Patch, it worked fine.

 

On my already running Save and CHaracter it worked, i also could open the Menu with Pos1 (Home) Button, but on a complete new Save it didd'nt occour.

Well, nevermind, now it works! =^..^=

 

Thanks for your Help!

[Khajiirah]

8 hours ago, Gulfwulf said:

In regards to the whole equipment issue, I seem to be getting extra PipBoys for some reason. They only show up when I access an armor bench so I don't know if it's this mod or another that's causing the issue. My character is male and I'm using SEU to initiate sex. Here's my load order:

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
NPCScaling.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
Homemaker.esm
HUDFramework.esm
SimSettlements.esm
VotWMaster.esm
AAF.esm
LooksMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
BetterJunkFences.esp
BetterGenerators.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
UltraInteriorLighting.esp
PlayerComments.esp
IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp
BLGUNS.esp
Classic Combat Armor.esp
Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
EasyLockpicking.esp
EasyHacking.esp
DiverseBodies.esp
Crafting Workbench.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
HoloTime.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp
Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp
LongerPowerLines3x.esp
mcgFemaleWalk.esp
mcgFemaleWalk-Granny-eng.esp
Minutemen Paint Job.esp
MMP4APA-blue.esp
More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
NSA All-in-One.esp
Perks Shmerks 2.4 full.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
JLS Power Armor Battery Drain vA.esp
PowerLinePhysics.esp
QuickTrade.esp
Quieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
Swinging Meat Bags.esp
Vivid Fallout.esp
AkaMoveYourWorkbench.esp
WorkshopsProduceAcid.esp
[777] Sanctuary - Reworked Roads.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
My_Minutemen.esp
Better Cooking Stations.esp
Better Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.esp
Crimsomrider's Convenient Resources.esp
FCEjectNoMore.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Galaxy News Radio.esp
BuildingGroundFix.esp
MoveWorkshopItems-Capsafe.esp
VotWSpecialVideos.esp
SimHomestead.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
GoodOldCartoonsVolumeI.esp
WaitAnywhere.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
KSHairdos.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
four_play.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
FP_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
4PlaySEU.esp
PlayerComments_IceBreakerCDO-Piper_Patch.esp
PlayerComments_IcebreakerCDO-Settlements_MainVersion_Patch.esp
PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
StartMeUp.esp
PlayerCommentsStartMeUpFDPPatch.esp
FO4 merged patch.esp

 

 

I had such a problem in Skyrim i remember, i did get some Items twice after taking them from a container, or they just pop up in my Inventory... Sword (4)...Sword (5)... 6....7.. get more and more. The only Thing with helped me was starting a new save, since this one time it happened never again. It did happen just on these Savegames, and i have no clue from where the Bug did come from.

 

Greetingzz,

- Khajii.

[dagobaking]

On 7/10/2018 at 10:44 AM, Gulfwulf said:

In regards to the whole equipment issue, I seem to be getting extra PipBoys for some reason. They only show up when I access an armor bench so I don't know if it's this mod or another that's causing the issue. My character is male and I'm using SEU to initiate sex. Here's my load order:

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout4.esm
DLCRobot.esm
DLCworkshop01.esm
DLCCoast.esm
DLCworkshop02.esm
DLCworkshop03.esm
DLCNukaWorld.esm
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp
NPCScaling.esm
ArmorKeywords.esm
Homemaker.esm
HUDFramework.esm
SimSettlements.esm
VotWMaster.esm
AAF.esm
LooksMenu.esp
CBBE.esp
BetterJunkFences.esp
BetterGenerators.esp
ValdacilsItemSorting-00-ValsPicks-DLCVersion-VanillaWeight.esp
UltraInteriorLighting.esp
PlayerComments.esp
IcebreakerCDO-Piper.esp
BLGUNS.esp
Classic Combat Armor.esp
Elvani's Track Pack - FIX.esp
dD-Enhanced Blood Basic.esp
EasyLockpicking.esp
EasyHacking.esp
DiverseBodies.esp
Crafting Workbench.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Automatron DLC.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
Crafting Workbenches - Removed Crafting Experience.esp
HoloTime.esp
Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
IcebreakerCDO-Settlements.esp
Live Dismemberment - Regular.esp
LongerPowerLines3x.esp
mcgFemaleWalk.esp
mcgFemaleWalk-Granny-eng.esp
Minutemen Paint Job.esp
MMP4APA-blue.esp
More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp
No More Fake Puddles - Nuka World 1-0.esp
NSA All-in-One.esp
Perks Shmerks 2.4 full.esp
AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
JLS Power Armor Battery Drain vA.esp
PowerLinePhysics.esp
QuickTrade.esp
Quieter Settlements - Recommended Settings.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_IndustrialRevolution.esp
Swinging Meat Bags.esp
Vivid Fallout.esp
AkaMoveYourWorkbench.esp
WorkshopsProduceAcid.esp
[777] Sanctuary - Reworked Roads.esp
Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
My_Minutemen.esp
Better Cooking Stations.esp
Better Cooking Stations - Far Harbor + Nuka World patch.esp
Crimsomrider's Convenient Resources.esp
FCEjectNoMore.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Galaxy News Radio.esp
BuildingGroundFix.esp
MoveWorkshopItems-Capsafe.esp
VotWSpecialVideos.esp
SimHomestead.esp
SimSettlements_XPAC_RiseOfTheCommonwealth.esp
DX Commonwealth Shorts.esp
DX Vault Girl Shorts.esp
GoodOldCartoonsVolumeI.esp
WaitAnywhere.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
KSHairdos.esp
LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
Rufgt's Animations.esp
four_play.esp
Atomic Lust.esp
FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
FP_AutonomyEnhanced.esp
4PlaySEU.esp
PlayerComments_IceBreakerCDO-Piper_Patch.esp
PlayerComments_IcebreakerCDO-Settlements_MainVersion_Patch.esp
PlayerComments_UFO4P_Patch.esp
Scrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.esp
BetterSettlers.esp
BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp
BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp
BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp
ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
StartMeUp.esp
PlayerCommentsStartMeUpFDPPatch.esp
FO4 merged patch.esp

 

Hm. I added a filter to prevent this. Are you using the latest version?

 

If so, please send the formID of the pipboy that shows up there.

[Gulfwulf]

10 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

Hm. I added a filter to prevent this. Are you using the latest version?

 

If so, please send the formID of the pipboy that shows up there.

I've been updating as you've been releasing new versions, D. The next time I play I'll see if I get a fourth one. I'll also check to see if the PipBoy is still being equipped on my clone.

[Thndrwlkr]

Ok.  So I have finished the first round of armor testing on a clean, 'basic' set up.  I call it 'basic' because I set a decently high benchmark prior to installing the animation system.

 

personal basic load order.txt

 

These mods are those which I (personally) consider to be the absolute minimum I will play with.  As can be seen, they are predominantly Workshop, Character creation and ambient texture overhauls.  If a mod won't work with these, I don't need that mod.

 

With this load order, I started a new run, female, using FSM Fantasy Body Nude preset and CBBEVaginaMorphPhysics, with FSM's Base Texture (no Unique Player installed).  I completed the Vault, exited, and saved.

 

Then I installed the animation set up shown here AAF load order.txt   .  The physical installation went Crazy Animation, Crazy Gun, Fourplay animations by Crazy, Leito FO4 Rigs, Leito animation (here I added the voice addon, but not necessary), Atomic Lust, Mutated Lust, Rugft's Animations, then Farrelle's pack (this was a manual installation).  

 

Once those packs were in, I installed the Alpha 79 build of AAF, followed by Savage Cabbage's pack (because it will NOT install if AAF is not present).  I am one of those that has to edit Savage's SavageCabbage_furnitureData_DLC4 file for capitalization, so I did this now.

 

Checked all dependencies as installed before adding the latest AAF compatibility and AAF leito/crazy patches (added fourplay Proxy via the AAF compat patch, not the old individual), and Nudesuits (no DoF or DoF patch).  LOOT sorted out the load order posted above, and from there I loaded up the game and tested vanilla armor.

 

AAF was flawless with a 106 mod load.

 

From there, I tested replacers (2Pac's, Lazman's, Cait's Corset Change, and Slooty Grognak Replacer...I left these last three installed before testing other mods, as I also consider them deal breakers), which presented something like negative three problems.

 

The list is long from here, so I will note any issues found next to them.  Each Mod was Tested SOLO, as in I installed no other mods besides the AAF load order and the last three mods mentioned above.  All armors/outfits were introduced through console, Vault suit was removed (I manually remove it just to make sure) and new outfit equipped.  Again, in console, I used 'tdetect', then fast traveled to a)Breakheart Banks (best spot to test Farrelle's pack), b) Hangman's Alley, and then c)Boston Public LIbrary (ghouls hang out outside).  Tested armor/outfits in each location...noted any problems, exited game, investigated reasons in FO4Edit, uninstalled the mod, moved on to the next, repeat ad nauseum.

 

Only one mod failed at this level, and that was Bikinis-Bathing Suits-Intimate Apparel (Ans_apparel).  Only body slot 33 would strip.  It is possible there could have been an error in the install or Bodyslide build, but it behaved exactly like it did before I stripped down to basic game files and rebuilt, so it is right out for me.

 

The rest went as follows:

Lacy Underwear (the single full set is fine, but the modular pieces use CK_biped slots 61 and 58 for bra and panties respectively, so they will not strip)

Sporty Underwear (exactly the same issues as noted with Lacy Underwear)

Absolutely Skimpy Attire had NO issues (Yay!  That means I had a massive conflict before)

Deathclaw Hunter had NO issues

Dicky Pinup ... Bikini top uses CK_biped slot 48, and thus requires being manually added to the AAF xml file by the user.  Read the wiki, it isn't hard.

Fortaleza  Had NO issues with normal version, nor with AE patch installed.

French Maid FO4 CBBE Physics ... the Choker (50), panties (54), and skirt (55) are all beyond the standard 30-48 CK_biped slots.  Dagobaking would have to opine as to if these would work if added to the xml file.  I didn't feel like monkeying with that.

HN66EasyGirl had NO issues.  Not the 5.01, 5.01B, 5.02 Bodyslide, nor the Physics addon (yes, I tested each freaking one by themselves).

Karna Provisioners Gear had NO issues.

Prostitute Outfit (EVB CBBE AE AWKCR) had NO issues

TERA Rogue had NO issues

TERA Nurse ... Hat (46) need be manually added.  Panties (54) and Legstrap (58) are beyond standard 30-48 (derpsdale do this a LOT, but I love his work)

TERA Castanic ... Bottoms use slot 55

TERA Punk ... this outfit has several pieces using slots higher than 48

TERA Business Casual ... bra (54), panties (58)

TERA Pirate ... Hat (46) need be manually added.  Cuffs (58) are beyond standard range of 48

Type 2 Mysogi (physics)  ... the scarf uses slot 56

ZGC Zilent had NO issues

Post Nuclear Girl ... mask uses slot (48) and need be manually added.

 

That is where the list has left off as of now, and it is by no means complete so far.  What I learned is that practically every issue I have ever had with stripping has to do with a conflict, so if you are a sucker for punishment, put that load order in and give your outfit/armor mod a fair run.  I will update this as I find, install, and play with other mods, and anyone else is more than welcome to contribute.  Imma go smoke something and see if I can get my eyes to uncross for a bit.

[Drapo]

so what you are saying is this is  one annoying problem and i should just give up

 

[Thndrwlkr]

53 minutes ago, Thndrwlkr said:

Ok.  So I have finished the first round of armor testing on a clean, 'basic' set up.  I call it 'basic' because I set a decently high benchmark prior to installing the animation system.

...SHEESH...shedap already...

 

The next step (after checking any other armor sets that strike me fancy...drop a note if you have one you want tested before I move on from this step...already have a couple on the list for Drapo) will be to start stacking armor mods together in the same install and see about switching them between scenes to see if that causes anything odd, then on to adding in things like Unique player and checking that system out, always building on the AAF load order.  From there, companion overhauls, and then on to exotic files (commonwealth stormtroopers anyone?).  Hopefully by then, FlashyJoe's new RSE build will be released and I can go straight into a relatively free playthrough...fingers crossed.

 

[Thndrwlkr]

8 minutes ago, Drapo said:

so what you are saying is this is  one annoying problem and i should just give up

 

nope, it means you and I have a mod installed somewhere that is causing a conflict.  None of the mods listed worked right for me before, so this is huge.  Now I can add mods one at a time until the conflict is revealed.

[Durante]

Solved some of the hiccups by updating FO4. However very often I can't draw weapons after AAF animation ends..

[CGi]

5 hours ago, Durante said:

Solved some of the hiccups by updating FO4. However very often I can't draw weapons after AAF animation ends..

i have the same with the vanilla game sometimes caused by the engine taking it's time loading in the assets.

[Thndrwlkr]

After (literally) sixteen hours of slow installing and testing, I managed to make quite a hefty build with no 'natural' errors (user induced errors were another story, will get back to that).

 

The build ended up with a total of 332 mods installed with a 227 (225 active) esp load order Final Test Load.txt .  I left the HD textures unticked for testing (because a lot of people don't use it) and Rogg DD Items Manager (because I really don't use it, but some mods need assets from it).

 

This is what I learned.

 

1.  A good, clean install is all but mandatory.

2.  READ descriptions on mod's pages.

3.  Follow AAF's installation guide to the letter.  I would recommend using the installation order I posted earlier as an addendum to that guide, not in lieu of. 

4.  LOOT works well when sorting (see attached text file) for testing purposes, though I would HIGHLY recommend putting any problematic armor or clothing mods immediately after the installed animations in your load order, manually if necessary.  Even with the swamp of scripts this build puts out, AAF stripped flawlessly each and every time, save for when I was looking for ways to 'break' it.

5.  Exiting an animation, changing armor/clothing, and toggling up another animation will NOT strip the new armor until the animation is ended, then it will equip the old armor set one had on prior to the first animation.  I am not sure what the AAF PC scan setup is, but this is one way to fool it.  Even so, this is NOT the fault of the framework, but rather user error, as walking away/fast traveling away, changing armor/clothing, and returning to the area does not produce this problem.

5.5.  Carrying too many different types of armor combinations is probably not ideal, but mixing and mashing sets does seem to work fine.  Any slot between 33 and 45 was cleared and covered just fine.  On one test, I used elements of Dicky's Bombshell, EasyGirl, Absolutely Skimpy Attire, and Deathclaw Hunter together with no errors (save for when I was carrying about 36 other armor pieces at the same time...then it seemed to take a few extra seconds to hear the re-equiping sound effect, but the did load properly).

6.  I tested this set up under a very strict procedure, in that I started with the base aaf setup I posted before, and introduced mods one or two at a time (in rare occasions, four, as when a mod had update and/or patch files), LOOT sorted the load order, exited NMM, restarted NMM, launched the game through NMM, loaded a the clean save (vault exit with base AAF setup), consoled in an armor setup, tdetect, tmm 1, fast travel to a location, trigger animation, end animation, toggle pipboy open, load main menu, delete any autosaves (anal, but this way I have NO doubts of leaving any scripts behind) and exit game without making any exit save.  I started with non-pc/npc textures (overhauls, bugfixes, et al), any remaining workshop items, armor mods, then weapon mods, gameplay mods (better settlers, Beautiful Female settlers, Diamond city expansion, and so on), unique player and companions redux (and all necessary texture files, body mods), companion mods (overhauls and textures), and finally, any mod that adds items to the player's inventory last (servitron, amazing follower tweaks, etc...).  The addition of each mod was launched from exactly the same save game (meaning that the mod introduction into that game were always all at once, growing each  with each new test).  The load order posted is tested satisfactory (for me, on my rig...i3 3.70 GHz, 12gb ram, GTX 1050 2gb on HDMI 23es monitor), and the installation procedure I outlined did NOT produce any conflicts in the tests.

7.  Last step remaining is to begin a playthrough (probably on 'normal' so I can play around a little more with animations) and test cohabitation in a game setting (using Combat strip lite in conjunction with AAF, for example). 

 

If you are having problems with AAF stripping, it is very highly probable that you have a borked installation somewhere.  After cleaning up my morass and following a clean activation procedure in NMM (no reinstalling mods unless I had a doubt after checking the mod author's pages...only ticking them active), I not only have no issues so far, but the game actually runs a LOT smoother, and the only time I noticed anything odd were the alignment issues with Leito's pack (I think it requires Vinfamy in order to make adjustments, and I put none of his mods in for this run).  I cannot opine on anything fourplay in regards to this setup, as it is in preparation for Flashy's pending release, and though Combat Strip Lite is installed, I have yet to actually test it (tdetect prevents that kind of event from triggering, and I didn't want to keep toggling the console while testing), so please don't assume it actually works correctly based on what I am posting.

[Thndrwlkr]

Also...I have not tested my Jane Bod build, nor a male build as of yet.  Jane Bod changes just about everything in Bodyslide, and that was a headache I did not want right now (but definitely will later), and it is all but certain that my maiden voyage in the new RSE will be as a male pc, so I will consider that the test for a Nate.

 

Edit: perhaps not...just remembered that Batman (a.k.a. @fedim ) already released the aaf_fpe mod and config...gonna have a Nora make some babies first...lol.

[dagobaking]

Thank you for doing this thorough testing and sharing the results!

[Thndrwlkr]

AAaaand FlashyJoe has apparently already released...I swear...leave the internet for 24 hours... ?

[Thndrwlkr]

10 minutes ago, dagobaking said:

Thank you for doing this thorough testing and sharing the results!

Very welcome, sir.  Thank you for this awesome framework!

[GreenV]

Hellooo Dagobaking,

 

Well yesterday I've  made some testing about my skinned pipboy problem... so here is my  solution :

In the setting.xml I've just changed the range for the PC character from 0 to 43 to 0 to 29 (30 adding the pibboy stuff).

So far after three tested animations in a row, I've still my skinned pipboy and all my gear and weapons are still in my inventory .

But well, have you some thought about my change ?

 

Looking now for my keyboard problem ...

[dagobaking]

1 minute ago, GreenV said:

Well yesterday I've  made some testing about my skinned pipboy problem... so here is my  solution :

In the setting.xml I've just changed the range for the PC character from 0 to 43 to 0 to 29 (30 adding the pibboy stuff).

So far after three tested animations in a row, I've still my skinned pipboy and all my gear and weapons are still in my inventory .

But well, have you some thought about my change ?

Thank you for reporting.

 

That is pretty much to be expected. You can change the range to suit your needs with the pipboy. But, then that will also break transferring some equipment that other people use. So, it needs to be something that people can adjust for their game.

[pimpn3z317]

ok not sure if asked or not but can this run with RSE? will it run with fourplay and its mods for it? also will this work with some of vinfamys animated fannies detailed vag and dynamic bodies mod? also looksmenue how do I get to that or is that a mod that allows for body sliders in game and something I cant get too.

 

[hancock66]

I am getting an error that says the AAF API is not detected. 

My install order: Animations (except Savage Cabbage until after AAF)

AAF

AAF Compatibility Patch

Leito/Crazy Compatibility Patch (FOMOD)

Savage Cabbage animations

AAF FPE

AAF RSE

 

AAF is at top of load order while everything else is just above Scrap Everything at the very bottom.

 

 

[VonHelton]

55 minutes ago, pimpn3z317 said:

ok not sure if asked or not but can this run with RSE? will it run with fourplay and its mods for it? also will this work with some of vinfamys animated fannies detailed vag and dynamic bodies mod? also looksmenue how do I get to that or is that a mod that allows for body sliders in game and something I cant get too.

 

RSE AAF just got released.........

 

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