framework Advanced Animation Framework

[VonHelton]

15 minutes ago, hancock66 said:

I am getting an error that says the AAF API is not detected. 

My install order: Animations (except Savage Cabbage until after AAF)

AAF

AAF Compatibility Patch

Leito/Crazy Compatibility Patch (FOMOD)

Savage Cabbage animations

AAF FPE

AAF RSE

 

AAF is at top of load order while everything else is just above Scrap Everything at the very bottom.

 

 

Temporarily disable scrap everything & see what happens. I think I heard it has problems playing nice with other mods.

 

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[hancock66]

27 minutes ago, VonHelton said:

Temporarily disable scrap everything & see what happens. I think I heard it has problems playing nice with other mods.

 

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Thank you! That fixed it.

[dagobaking]

38 minutes ago, Highborn said:

That's a shame... would the eventual MCM have all the functionality that the current AAF menu has? Or at least make things functional? Maybe a holotape? I was never able to activate the menu so I don't know how exactly is the AAF layout.

 

I think that most people would agree that running the AAF UI through an MCM or holotape would be extremely clunky and a step backward.

 

The API I set up for making an MCM (or holotape) is for changing the settings (instead of changing those in an XML file).

[pimpn3z317]

1 hour ago, VonHelton said:

RSE AAF just got released.........

 

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awesome can I still use four play at the same time with aaf?

[pimpn3z317]

could I get a link for the compatibility patch  proxy for four play and aaf to work I cant find it. I want aaf but I also want fourplays planed parenting and other addons to work. hope aaf gets a addon like it (unless I can use fp parenting with aaf)  

[VonHelton]

26 minutes ago, pimpn3z317 said:

awesome can I still use four play at the same time with aaf?

Family Planning AAF will disable SEU. Not sure if RSE AAF will.........You can give it a try.

 

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[VonHelton]

1 hour ago, hancock66 said:

Thank you! That fixed it.

Anytime!

 

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[habilon]

Ok I am very confused and after looking through several pages I cant see anyone else having this issue but when installing AAF it says I have Fourplay installed. 

 

I used to use Fourplay but have since uninstalled it since I found it wasnt compatible with this mod, But AFF was still saying it found an installation of FourPlay.

 

I even uninstalled the game and did a clean install but the AAF install still says I have it installed somehow.

 

I am looking everywhere and have even deleted fourplay from the list of inactive mods in my NMM but still it says its installed. 

 

This is driving me nuts as I cant find FourPlay anywhere yet it says it is still installed.

[dagobaking]

I think your install of NMM may have become corrupt.

[VonHelton]

2 hours ago, habilon said:

Ok I am very confused and after looking through several pages I cant see anyone else having this issue but when installing AAF it says I have Fourplay installed. 

 

I used to use Fourplay but have since uninstalled it since I found it wasnt compatible with this mod, But AFF was still saying it found an installation of FourPlay.

 

I even uninstalled the game and did a clean install but the AAF install still says I have it installed somehow.

 

I am looking everywhere and have even deleted fourplay from the list of inactive mods in my NMM but still it says its installed. 

 

This is driving me nuts as I cant find FourPlay anywhere yet it says it is still installed.

Have you rebooted your computer to clear out anything that might be stuck in your memory?

 

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[tch65721]

4 hours ago, habilon said:

Ok I am very confused and after looking through several pages I cant see anyone else having this issue but when installing AAF it says I have Fourplay installed. 

 

I used to use Fourplay but have since uninstalled it since I found it wasnt compatible with this mod, But AFF was still saying it found an installation of FourPlay.

 

I even uninstalled the game and did a clean install but the AAF install still says I have it installed somehow.

 

I am looking everywhere and have even deleted fourplay from the list of inactive mods in my NMM but still it says its installed. 

 

This is driving me nuts as I cant find FourPlay anywhere yet it says it is still installed.

I had exactly this issue.  Never resolved.  Just went on and installed AAF anyway.  New game, new install, very little to lose.  Now and then it bitches that AAF API cannot be found but seems to work anyway????   Weird. 

[pimpn3z317]

12 hours ago, VonHelton said:

Family Planning AAF will disable SEU. Not sure if RSE AAF will.........You can give it a try.

 

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ok cool you seem to know your stuff I downloaded sim settlements was woundering if you know if it causes issue with  RSE four play or if you know of that mod also have other settlement mods as well also have a better settlermod with divers bodies by vinfamy my game crashes not sure why tho and controller support is messed up too

[habilon]

5 hours ago, VonHelton said:

Have you rebooted your computer to clear out anything that might be stuck in your memory?

 

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multiple times yes. I even tried deleting the data folder itself and doing a rebuild of fallout 4 but it still says its installed. and I can confirm that doing that cleared out other items showing up in the plugins when not installed so that should have done it.

3 hours ago, tch65721 said:

I had exactly this issue.  Never resolved.  Just went on and installed AAF anyway.  New game, new install, very little to lose.  Now and then it bitches that AAF API cannot be found but seems to work anyway????   Weird. 

oh good its not just me.

[habilon]

8 hours ago, dagobaking said:

I think your install of NMM may have become corrupt.

I will try uninstalling NMM and reinstalling it didnt think it would be the issue

[habilon]

8 hours ago, dagobaking said:

I think your install of NMM may have become corrupt.

Update, I have uninstalled and reinstalled NMM, which lost me all my saved mods so will have to take care of that now but it still says I have Fourplay installed.... even though the only two mods installed or even associated with the game at this point is looks menu and AAF

[habilon]

6 minutes ago, habilon said:

Update, I have uninstalled and reinstalled NMM, which lost me all my saved mods so will have to take care of that now but it still says I have Fourplay installed.... even though the only two mods installed or even associated with the game at this point is looks menu and AAF

Further update.... the first section it gives when installing has "welcome" with a checkbox, no explanation as to what it is for but assumed it needed to be checked to install the AFF mod, seems if I dont click on that it doesnt see the fourplay mod and does the rest of the install normally, if I click on welcome then it will say I have Fourplay installed. going to reinstall a few mods and test this out.

[dagobaking]

1 hour ago, habilon said:

Update, I have uninstalled and reinstalled NMM, which lost me all my saved mods so will have to take care of that now but it still says I have Fourplay installed.... even though the only two mods installed or even associated with the game at this point is looks menu and AAF

It's possible that your reinstall process did not actually clear out the old/corrupt NMM files. I had this happen to me with NMM before.

 

I actually resolved it by not using NMM any more. I cleared it out the best I could, re-installed the entire game and then started using MO2.

[RitualClarity]

2 hours ago, dagobaking said:

It's possible that your reinstall process did not actually clear out the old/corrupt NMM files. I had this happen to me with NMM before.

 

I actually resolved it by not using NMM any more. I cleared it out the best I could, re-installed the entire game and then started using MO2.

• You can uninstall and verify that you deleted all the files r/t NMM...
• Then delete all the folders in your game Data folder... then remove any BSA, esms etc that don't belong to the game. They will be named like the game or one of the DLCs. If in question then delete it.
• Then go to Steam and "Verify Cache" and allow all the files to be downloaded/updated as needed.
• re-install your tools like Fallout Script Extender etc...

Basic goal is to be sure to remove anything of question out of your folder and then verify to be sure you didn't remove something important. Then add the tools (sometimes there are added folders that are part of the tools you need to install into the Data folder) and you should be good to go from that point.

 

 Sorry I don't have an active game installed on this computer to give you a screen capture. However, anyone using MO2 should be able to show you a clean folder

 

I'd suggest moving to Vortex or MO2 since NMM won't be supported going forward (unless someone takes over the updating)  so you won't know if it is you or some mod or something going wrong when you experience issues in the future.

[forgets]

1 hour ago, RitualClarity said:

I'd suggest moving to Vortex or MO2 since NMM won't be supported going forward (unless someone takes over the updating)  so you won't know if it is you or some mod or something going wrong when you experience issues in the future.

I use Wrye Bash. I open NMM when I need to install a fomod, but Wrye handles it once it's in my load list. Makes it so easy to merge leveled lists without a hiccup. Wish they'd add fomod install support to Wrye for FO4, I love it so much except for that.

 

Make sure you're getting NMM from github and not the actual Nexus if you do choose to use it, on Nexus it is dead.

[forgets]

5 hours ago, habilon said:

Further update.... the first section it gives when installing has "welcome" with a checkbox, no explanation as to what it is for but assumed it needed to be checked to install the AFF mod, seems if I dont click on that it doesnt see the fourplay mod and does the rest of the install normally, if I click on welcome then it will say I have Fourplay installed. going to reinstall a few mods and test this out.

'Welcome' is meaningless, you don't need to check it. It's weird that checking it does anything.

[-Player1-]

I tried out the new pack Vader uploaded but ive got a problem. AAF worked fine , everything is in order. Tho AAF recognizes the Deathclaw as Human, not as actual Deathclaw. So its forcing the DC to use human animations. Ive reported the problem to Vaver, tho i havent got any Infos regarding the problem.

 

Any advice ?

 

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Edit: I found out whats causing the Problem. a Mod Named "Beastmaster" . apparently it converts creatures into .. Humanish-companions tagwise. Deinstalled it and its working now.

[VonHelton]

On 7/13/2018 at 9:03 PM, dagobaking said:

 

I think that most people would agree that running the AAF UI through an MCM or holotape would be extremely clunky and a step backward.

 

The API I set up for making an MCM (or holotape) is for changing the settings (instead of changing those in an XML file).

Dago.....

 

AAF seems to be breaking several dialog mods.........SEU is the most obvious, but now reports are coming in that other dialog mods are breaking after an AAF animation takes place.

 

What is in AAF that would break dialog?

 

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[Thndrwlkr]

6 hours ago, forgets said:

 

 

Make sure you're getting NMM from github and not the actual Nexus if you do choose to use it, on Nexus it is dead.

This cannot be stressed enough.

[dagobaking]

2 hours ago, VonHelton said:

Dago.....

 

AAF seems to be breaking several dialog mods.........SEU is the most obvious, but now reports are coming in that other dialog mods are breaking after an AAF animation takes place.

 

What is in AAF that would break dialog?

 

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I haven't seen AAF break dialogue. I've used SEU to start AAF animations many times in a row without issue.

 

Do you have a link to the other reports?

[habilon]

11 hours ago, dagobaking said:

It's possible that your reinstall process did not actually clear out the old/corrupt NMM files. I had this happen to me with NMM before.

 

I actually resolved it by not using NMM any more. I cleared it out the best I could, re-installed the entire game and then started using MO2.

I highly doubt it has anything to do with NMM as I lost EVERYTHING on it, it was a complete clean install with everything deleted. so if it has an issue with NMM then it has an issue with a clean install of it.

 

I seem to have solved the issue by simply not clicking on the check box for "welcome" seems the Mod only thinks I have Fourplay if I click on that "Welcome" check box.