Sexlab Adventures

[Taki17]

14 minutes ago, General Neondaze said:

May I ask what the difference is between Sleep Rape and Sleep Creep (miscellaneous tab)?

Rape is what it sounds like: a bunch of bandits will appear, drag your character out of bed and proceed to gangbang her.

 

With creep, your character will find a load of dried jizz on their face when they wake up, with a notification acknowledgeing that indeed, someone jizzed on her face while she slept.

[Teutonic]

31 minutes ago, Taki17 said:

Rape is what it sounds like: a bunch of bandits will appear, drag your character out of bed and proceed to gangbang her.

 

With creep, your character will find a load of dried jizz on their face when they wake up, with a notification acknowledgeing that indeed, someone jizzed on her face while she slept.

Indeed, but Sleep Creep can also lead to theft and the cum is not limited to the face.

[worik]

16 hours ago, Teutonic said:

Indeed, but Sleep Creep can also lead to theft and the cum is not limited to the face.

I think we had this before, but I can't find it with the current technical site troubles.

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Is this "cum" just a SLAdv thing or can other mods make use of it? Specificially I am asking myself if Beeing Female would count it as cum? AFAIK it hugs the native Sexlab orgasm function, ... but we won't have that with the sleep creep, right?

 

[Tenri]

I'm fairly sure it just adds normal Sexlab cum layers to whatever body part(s) it rolls when it activates.

I'm almost positive Being Female wouldn't register it (nor will any other mods that use orgasm events), being female does have its own "sleep creep" that will register cum for pregnancy chance though.

 

Any mod that reads the active cum layers can trigger with them though like SLAdv itself, SLSF, or DEC.

[worik]

1 hour ago, Tenri said:

I'm almost positive Being Female wouldn't register it (nor will any other mods that use orgasm events), being female does have its own "sleep creep" that will register cum for pregnancy chance though.

That's exactly what I thought.

Now, that would be a feature in itself, if we could somehow set a connection. But that would always require the SL orgasm function and a valid male actor to trigger. ... probably impossible ?

So I will stick to the wake-up-and-sex instead of sleep creep ? Less problematic and sufficient to make life hard enough.

 

[Teutonic]

1 hour ago, worik said:

I think we had this before, but I can't find it with the current technical site troubles.

?

Is this "cum" just a SLAdv thing or can other mods make use of it? Specificially I am asking myself if Beeing Female would count it as cum? AFAIK it hugs the native Sexlab orgasm function, ... but we won't have that with the sleep creep, right?

 

We talked about this before and I wanted to add support for it. Beeing Female has mod events that come in handy here. However, I looked at the source code and BF requires that you provide a male NPC in the event and Adventures never defines one and does not even worry about whether there are any dudes around. And who knows, maybe animals are creeps too in Skyrim. 

 

Apart from that, it is normal Sexlab cum.

[Lupine00]

33 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

We talked about this before

Didn't people also propose solutions for determining a "donor" for the cum?

 

From my perspective, the obvious thing is to spin up the usual rapist locator cloak and if it doesn't find any males, sleep creep doesn't fire the BF event, but otherwise functions normally.

 

After all, it's possible for there to be cum without it being in a pregnancy inducing location.

[Teutonic]

On 3/8/2019 at 1:29 AM, letterman said:

the rape event is activating while i'm already in the middle of a sex scene from other mods

Which other mod triggered the scene?

[Teutonic]

29 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Didn't people also propose solutions for determining a "donor" for the cum?

 

From my perspective, the obvious thing is to spin up the usual rapist locator cloak and if it doesn't find any males, sleep creep doesn't fire the BF event, but otherwise functions normally.

 

After all, it's possible for there to be cum without it being in a pregnancy inducing location.

They did, but I did not find them very appealing. I can simply try to find one and use him, but I do not particularly like that solution either. 

[worik]

25 minutes ago, Teutonic said:

I can simply try to find one and use him, but I do not particularly like that solution either. 

How about a "placeholder" male NPC ... callled not by name but by his role "Sleepy Creepy" or "mysterious shady figure".

You just store him in a holding cell and for the sake of a cum originator you pas him to BF. Technically he would be a named unique actor and all is well.

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

Didn't people also propose solutions for determining a "donor" for the cum?

Or was this one of the already discussed ideas ?

[General Neondaze]

On 3/10/2019 at 9:01 AM, Teutonic said:

We talked about this before and I wanted to add support for it. Beeing Female has mod events that come in handy here. However, I looked at the source code and BF requires that you provide a male NPC in the event and Adventures never defines one and does not even worry about whether there are any dudes around. And who knows, maybe animals are creeps too in Skyrim. 

 

Apart from that, it is normal Sexlab cum.

I like the anonymity of sleep creep. Allows for imagination. Cum could be the result of bukkake, silent prankster, spill from a drunken (and therefore forgotten) blowjob. ?

[matekun]

The outfit rape condition is not working for me.

I did this:

Registered my current outfit in the MCM menu (some vanilla clothes and also some custom ones too)

Set condition to Always (also tried with OR,AND,EITHER),

Debug messages said it was ignored all the time.

It's just me?

 

Also,I'm getting bounties from being naked and public sex AFTER a sex act from other mods ends,like TDF prostitution or Sexlab approach.

 

And,have some plans to link rape to Sexlab approach redux or SL horrible harassment?

 

Thank you.

[Velis]

Heh... This is the only rape mod I have installed right now, for reference. Unless SL Solutions somehow managed to trigger this... (To be on the safe side, I'll also mention I have Creature Framework and More Nasty Critters installed.)

 

I was very surprised, after I went the Volkihar route during Dawnguard, to see this happen (hopefully that link works—never done a link-access-only post to Imgur before). I guess proximity rape kicked in and ... somehow put my girl in the male role? I'm really not sure what happened.

 

That aside, I've been enjoying this mod greatly (installed in SE).

[Teutonic]

On 3/8/2019 at 8:24 AM, Recoilsuave said:

Here's my .json file. When I started up Adventures, clean and masturbate were both set to Escape, however before I updated to .72, I had clean set to the L key.

The buttons are not listed as Escape in here. Are they still set to Escape when you load this file?

On 3/10/2019 at 11:39 AM, worik said:

How about a "placeholder" male NPC ... callled not by name but by his role "Sleepy Creepy" or "mysterious shady figure".

You just store him in a holding cell and for the sake of a cum originator you pas him to BF. Technically he would be a named unique actor and all is well.

Or was this one of the already discussed ideas ?

It was. I do not want to add stuff outside of scripts only to add mod support though. One thing I'd like to test out is spawning an NPC, pass him over and despawn him (invisibly to the player). But I am not sure if that is going to work well with BF. In the end though, I can always fetch a dude from the current cell and let him do his thing. Is the father even known in BF?

2 hours ago, matekun said:

The outfit rape condition is not working for me.

I did this:

Registered my current outfit in the MCM menu (some vanilla clothes and also some custom ones too)

Set condition to Always (also tried with OR,AND,EITHER),

Debug messages said it was ignored all the time.

It's just me?

I'll test it again.

2 hours ago, matekun said:

Also,I'm getting bounties from being naked and public sex AFTER a sex act from other mods ends,like TDF prostitution or Sexlab approach.

That is normal. If you get a high enough bounty during a sex act, guards might try to arrest you. That is why you will not actually get the bounty until after it.

2 hours ago, matekun said:

And,have some plans to link rape to Sexlab approach redux or SL horrible harassment?

Other mods can trigger rape, but I have no plans to create an integration from my end at this point.

2 hours ago, Velis said:

Heh... This is the only rape mod I have installed right now, for reference. Unless SL Solutions somehow managed to trigger this... (To be on the safe side, I'll also mention I have Creature Framework and More Nasty Critters installed.)

 

I was very surprised, after I went the Volkihar route during Dawnguard, to see this happen (hopefully that link works—never done a link-access-only post to Imgur before). I guess proximity rape kicked in and ... somehow put my girl in the male role? I'm really not sure what happened.

 

That aside, I've been enjoying this mod greatly (installed in SE).

I suppose there are no male on vampire lord animations or at least you don't have any. It's probably the best to prohibit rape if the player is currently in werewolf or vampire lord form. Who would even want to rape that?

[matekun]

1 hour ago, Teutonic said:

4 hours ago, matekun said:

Also,I'm getting bounties from being naked and public sex AFTER a sex act from other mods ends,like TDF prostitution or Sexlab approach. 

That is normal. If you get a high enough bounty during a sex act, guards might try to arrest you. That is why you will not actually get the bounty until after it.

But,it was my own prostitution client that bountied me.Got a public nudity bounty in the 1-2 seconds my character stood there nude until Sexlab redressed her again.

And a public sex bounty too,again by the guy she had sex with.

That can't be normal.

[Lupine00]

8 hours ago, Teutonic said:

It was. I do not want to add stuff outside of scripts only to add mod support though. One thing I'd like to test out is spawning an NPC, pass him over and despawn him (invisibly to the player). But I am not sure if that is going to work well with BF. In the end though, I can always fetch a dude from the current cell and let him do his thing. Is the father even known in BF?

Yes, it is known.

 

I'm not sure that it's worth turning everything upside down for BF; it's just one pregnancy mod of several.

I have used it once or twice, but it always wrecked my game, so I stay away from it now.

There are other pregnancy mods that aren't being supported either.

What about SGOIII, or HP, or FM?

The first two probably don't need a father, while Fertility Mode probably does.

 

Seems like supporting HP and SGOIII would make more sense than worrying about BF and FM, which require a father actor so they can attribute parentage.

FM will happily let you use a Rock Hopper as a father though; it's not very picky.

 

Also, BF and FM can both produce their own random pregnancies as a result of sleeping "near" men. I'm not sure there's really that urgent a need.

The sleep creep feature itself is a luxury feature, as SLAdv has "normal" sleep rapes, that play animations using established actors.

 

HP is an incredibly basic mod. You could probably write pregnancy into SLAdv as easily as supporting it.

I use FM myself, but I could imagine trying HP again in the future.

[Lupine00]

7 hours ago, matekun said:

But,it was my own prostitution client that bountied me.Got a public nudity bounty in the 1-2 seconds my character stood there nude until Sexlab redressed her again.

And a public sex bounty too,again by the guy she had sex with.

That can't be normal.

Why isn't it normal?

SL Adv just sees a sexlab animation playing, and you enabled non-guards as reporters, and it found a reporter, so you got reported.

 

If you don't like this, disable non-guards as reporters.

 

Arguably, it would be a helpful feature if SLAdv excluded recent sex partners as reporters, just as it can exclude reporters as rapist candidates.

 

It seems that SL Adv can prevent a reporter from raping you in SL Adv, but it doesn't currently prevent sex actors from other mods from reporting you; and it can't stop a reporter from raping you via another mod (I don't imagine it will ever be able to do that).

 

However, it could track all recent SexLab actors and put them in a FIFO to stop them reporting you. This would make more sense than your SD+ rapist getting upset that you're naked, or your RP customer reporting you for being naked, or having sex. They still might be able to report you if they did it before they entered the sex animation though. Stopping that would be kind of fiddly - though possible - all reports would need to defer for several seconds, to see if the actor enters a sex animation in that grace-period. Usually, this kind of problem is solved by enacting RP sex in locations where sex is legal.

 

While the sexism of DCL is amusing (I think DCL probably started this trope of getting arrested for being raped), it remains a bit silly that sex can be illegal, only for female player-characters, but legal for everyone else. There's a whole realm of unexplored gameplay where that oddly player-centric rule doesn't apply. Would need a crime-aware prostitution mod though. Well, it's only amusing if you don't think about the real women in countries of the real world, who are arrested, beaten or killed for getting raped, but of course a comedy fantasy in a game has almost nothing to do with real situations, other than using some of the same words. I wish I hadn't thought of it. I feel sick now.

 

One feature that seems obvious in retrospect, but which is not part of SL Adv, is the ability to enable/disable rapes on a per-hold basis. This would integrate very nicely with the per-hold crime configurations.

[karlpaws]

9 hours ago, Teutonic said:

I suppose there are no male on vampire lord animations or at least you don't have any. It's probably the best to prohibit rape if the player is currently in werewolf or vampire lord form. Who would even want to rape that?

at least a toggle for vampire lord form would be good, but no I don't think there are any male on VL anims.  Usually its the VL doing the raping.

 

There are werewolf male and female anims though, so that could go either way.  Probably not desired or likely while using the vanilla style timed werewolf change though, so a toggle for that would probably be good as well.

[TwiceSwords]

For crimes "only in cities" option would help me. I approach a dungeon cave entrance crime says "This location is under Pale laws". I had crime for having a weapon in front of a dungeon (I am not sure if it is always the case because i was doing civil war quest so there were a lot of guards.). For now i manually disable crime whenever i leave cities and active on entering.

 

Also i would like to see some variety of dialogs when having a bounty

for carrying weapon "Don't you know women can't carry weapons!" / "I'm gonna give your hands something to hold better than your weapon."

for being naked "I'm gonna make you ride something better than your horse, COME HERE!" / "What a whore..." / "Disgraceful..."

for being outside at night "You shouldn't be outside." / "You should be where you belong with other belongings in your man's home."

 

Here is something else;

How about an alive Sleep Creep! Every city and Riverwood(Because it is Riverwood) has a creep NPC named Whiterun Creep, Riverwood Crepp etc. They are just folks in cities outside at night stalking PC around at a distance and waiting for the right moment(MCM percantage)

1-to assault the PC in the middle of the road also triggers bounty,

2-to kidnap the PC with a blackout screen spawnin PC to a abandoned house in the wilderness to have a few turns on his own then release back to city naked to trigger bounty and also a dagger maybe.

2.a- leave the PC in that house bound after he is done.

2.b- enslavement robbed etc. the usual consequences.

2.c- If it is day time (only because there will not be trasspassing to ruin all the fun) rescued by a vanilla NPC from the city PC has been kidnapped. PC will wake up in his house to

 2.c.1- added some clothes in inventory (for the ones use full rob option)

 2.c.2- the rescuer will take advantage of the recently used body of PC and say "I took my prize for saving your ass now get lost."

 

Some force greet from creeps from time to time could be fun like;

Creep: "How are you today my love?"

PC: "I'm not your lover you monkey!"

Creep: "Calm down beauty. We are just starting our relationship."

PC: "Get lost or i will be murderer in front of all guards."

Creep: "..."

PC: "NOW!"

[worik]

12 hours ago, Teutonic said:

It was. I do not want to add stuff outside of scripts only to add mod support though

ahh. Sorry, my bad. The Site issues preveneted me for days to read back in the thread

12 hours ago, Teutonic said:

One thing I'd like to test out is spawning an NPC, pass him over and despawn him (invisibly to the player). But I am not sure if that is going to work well with BF.

AFAIK that would still depend on a SL thread and actors and that someone orgasms and basically if the SL animation has "vaginal" tag it will work.

Spoiler

Function Orgasm(sslThreadController ssl_controller, sslBaseAnimation animation)
	;Trace("4. Check for Relevant animation")
	Bool relevantAnimation = false
	if(animation.HasTag("Vaginal"))
		relevantAnimation = true
		;Trace("   Animation was vaginal")
	endif

A snippet from BF how it hooks it self on the SexLabThread

 

Too much hassle for the sleep creep I guess.

Anyway it was just a nice question from my side.

 

I can confirm it works perfectly when I am woken up by the sleep rape scene with an animation ?

 

[Corsayr]

1 hour ago, sigaraoyuncu said:

For crimes "only in cities" option would help me.

2nd ?

[Darkpig]

2 hours ago, sigaraoyuncu said:

For crimes "only in cities" option would help me. I approach a dungeon cave entrance crime says "This location is under Pale laws". I had crime for having a weapon in front of a dungeon (I am not sure if it is always the case because i was doing civil war quest so there were a lot of guards.). For now i manually disable crime whenever i leave cities and active on entering.

What about riverwood? Those poor sods don't even have a wall.

 

I guess you could say the same about the other unwalled cities but if Riverwood has a wall then they will be protected from the titens.

 

Check out dese mad drawing skills.

[Guest]

I just read the last 3 pages of comments and I have to say.... you have the patience of a saint!

[Guest]

On 3/10/2019 at 6:08 AM, Teutonic said:

Which other mod triggered the scene?

dragonborn in distress. apologies for taking so long to respond

[Teutonic]

On 3/11/2019 at 8:21 PM, matekun said:

But,it was my own prostitution client that bountied me.Got a public nudity bounty in the 1-2 seconds my character stood there nude until Sexlab redressed her again.

And a public sex bounty too,again by the guy she had sex with.

That can't be normal.

Let me clarify what happened:

1. You started having sex.
2. You got reported. The report went through and the bounty was registered, but you did not actually get the bounty yet. 
3. The sex ended and you finally got the bounty for the report.

You are not reported 1-2 seconds after the sex, you just get the bounty for the report that went through during the sex. The person who reported you must have been someone who passed by or for whatever reason saw you as sex partners cannot report you and there is also a 10 seconds grace period after sex. There was a bug in earlier versions where a partner could report you in a specific scenario, but that was fixed with the crime rework.