Celedhring Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 I downloaded the latest version and tested them at Rannveig's Fast with the chaurus inside the interior cell and the sleeping bags outside to test Sleep Rape. Solo and then with a companion. Everything works great aside from one rape dropping me through the floor of the interior cell. Love the fact that threesomes now work with creatures. 1
Celedhring Posted February 13, 2019 Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 7:37 PM, Hiderius said: Note to self - Don't put everything to ignore with a short timer because you will be stuck being used by npc's and not be able to do anything lol I did that in Dragonsreach a long ago as a test. Talk about a rape train without brakes. lol 1
Lupine00 Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 10 hours ago, Teutonic said: I know I mentioned I was going to add that option, but it is not in yet. This reminds me it's a good idea for rapes to abort if combat starts during their setup.
JahReit Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 First let me say, my game has had mods added, removed, added again ... etc. so it may be something in the mess of saved games, but Serana is never raped (might just be her AI packet) but a Ningheim follower is raped. The problem there is my character has a 1 on 1 or a 3 way and that's it. All the other men go after my follower. Quite frankly my character is a little jealous. Then a few of the men follow my character, just follow, until I use the debug option to reset. Debug shows "gang bang" and "no sex animations happening". I'm using the latest version. Speaking of the latest version, I really like what you've done with the sleep rape. Instead of waking up and getting raped, she is pulled out of bed ... brilliant! I hope you don't get burned out, This is one of the best mods I've had in my 12,170 hours of play. 1
chipstick Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 9:08 PM, Teutonic said: Everyone should have this, but it is fixed in the update. Thanks for letting me know. I havent had a chance to test the update yet, but you're making some great changes and additions!
Teutonic Posted February 14, 2019 Author Posted February 14, 2019 12 hours ago, Lupine00 said: This reminds me it's a good idea for rapes to abort if combat starts during their setup. Indeed, which is also a reason why I want to add that feature. 6 hours ago, JahReit said: First let me say, my game has had mods added, removed, added again ... etc. so it may be something in the mess of saved games, but Serana is never raped (might just be her AI packet) but a Ningheim follower is raped. The problem there is my character has a 1 on 1 or a 3 way and that's it. All the other men go after my follower. Quite frankly my character is a little jealous. Then a few of the men follow my character, just follow, until I use the debug option to reset. Debug shows "gang bang" and "no sex animations happening". I'm using the latest version. Those issues will not be easy to track down. Do you have any mods for Serana? 6 hours ago, JahReit said: Speaking of the latest version, I really like what you've done with the sleep rape. Instead of waking up and getting raped, she is pulled out of bed ... brilliant! To be fair, that for the most part comes from DCL.
JahReit Posted February 14, 2019 Posted February 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Teutonic said: Those issues will not be easy to track down. Do you have any mods for Serana? Didn't think of that, but yes, I have a few Serana mods. I'll have to look into that. Thanks.
Darkpig Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 The time settings on the night crime options is not saved when loading up the json.file when using version 0.71d.
Li_Tianya Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 This might have been asked before, but when I go into the MCM for this mod, I can't enable proximity rape. Clicking on the enable button does nothing for me. The attacker gender is also missing.
Meteox Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Li_Tianya said: This might have been asked before, but when I go into the MCM for this mod, I can't enable proximity rape. Clicking on the enable button does nothing for me. The attacker gender is also missing. A clean save will fix this. And make sure you get the latest version as there has been a couple of issues with the proximity rape a little while ago.
Teutonic Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Darkpig said: The time settings on the night crime options is not saved when loading up the json.file when using version 0.71d. Thanks, that will be fixed in the next update. 7 hours ago, Li_Tianya said: This might have been asked before, but when I go into the MCM for this mod, I can't enable proximity rape. Clicking on the enable button does nothing for me. The attacker gender is also missing. As Meteox has mentioned, get the latest version and try a clean save. I am not entirely sure how this happens, since I did not get this.
matekun Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 I'm using EFF and only my first follower is raped with the player.Is just me,or only one is supported?
Teutonic Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, matekun said: I'm using EFF and only my first follower is raped with the player.Is just me,or only one is supported? It is supposed to be supported, but I am not sure if the other EFF users are having the same problem. Do you have a Papyrus log?
matekun Posted February 15, 2019 Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Teutonic said: It is supposed to be supported, but I am not sure if the other EFF users are having the same problem. Do you have a Papyrus log? Maybe is some problem in my end,wait for other people confirmation. How many followers are supported,anyway?
Teutonic Posted February 15, 2019 Author Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, matekun said: Maybe is some problem in my end,wait for other people confirmation. How many followers are supported,anyway? In theory, nine.
shiagwen Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 shortest cooldown for a rape is 15 minutes. is this measeured from the beginning or from the end of the last rape ? i guess from the end. in timescale 20 15 minutes are 50 seconds. i use timescale 5, where 15 minutes are 3 minutes. much too long if used as a gangbang. please set slider to Zero. there has been a mod, i cant find it anymore, who moved rapes to hidden places. away from the street to somewhere behind houses. it doesnt worked properly, did not recognized rapes too often. but if you go for realism you may go for this. it is unreal that a rape will be on open street (even with redwardons) . they will pack and carry the victims to a hidden corner. joining adds may find it without line of sight by sounds.
Teutonic Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, shiagwen said: shortest cooldown for a rape is 15 minutes. is this measeured from the beginning or from the end of the last rape ? i guess from the end. in timescale 20 15 minutes are 50 seconds. i use timescale 5, where 15 minutes are 3 minutes. much too long if used as a gangbang. please set slider to Zero. With no cooldown at all, it is possible that a new rape starts immediately after the last one ended and during my tests, that happened all the time even though it might seem unlikely. 31 minutes ago, shiagwen said: there has been a mod, i cant find it anymore, who moved rapes to hidden places. away from the street to somewhere behind houses. it doesnt worked properly, did not recognized rapes too often. but if you go for realism you may go for this. it is unreal that a rape will be on open street (even with redwardons) . they will pack and carry the victims to a hidden corner. joining adds may find it without line of sight by sounds. Whether it is more realistic or not is debatable, but more importantly, I do not think there is a clean way to make this work for everywhere, I would have to treat every location individually, identify "hidden places" and make them go there. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
Lupine00 Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 38 minutes ago, Teutonic said: Whether it is more realistic or not is debatable, but more importantly, I do not think there is a clean way to make this work for everywhere, I would have to treat every location individually, identify "hidden places" and make them go there. Doesn't seem worth it to me. This is a nice idea, but the only way to make it work properly is to put trigger boxes down. This means contentious cell edits, also lots of work. Because of the contention risks, it would need its own ESP, and have to be optional, so quite a lot of effort. A nice feature though. The downside is you could spend a lot of time never walking in those risky areas, and so not get raped, and think "where are my rapes?" I think I'd take the ability to have outfit-related rapes over this, as generally more useful/immersive, less effort, and less mod contention.
shiagwen Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Teutonic said: With no cooldown at all, it is possible that a new rape starts immediately after the last one ended and during my tests, that happened all the time even though it might seem unlikely. exactly. thats what i want. if you dont want it, pull the slider to 15 minutes or more. no Problem. you are thinking one way, like all modders do, unfortunately. a Player has to look around, he has to see how he can make things haqppen that modders dont have in their mind - more then 50 % of possible sex has not been modded yet simply because it does not come into the modders mind, or, even more crazy, they put it in complete unplayable circumstances. lets take an example. TDF Prostitution. the modder did not react to the users wish of approaching Clients in the easy way as it is. no. the Player must Dance, then for 20 minutes in the same cell the Clients apporoach, mostly old women and drunkards. Radiant Prostitution showed how easy and userfriendly approaching can be. tdf also did not react on Players wish for threesomes as iit can be. he made the follower becoming Clients who want a threesome. SoPlayer has to fuck follower, then a threesome with follower and Client. no direct threesome. dd cursed loot, the mod your adventures is based on ,howed how easy direct threesomes can be made. even Maria eden has this in the program. do you understand ? the modder himself stands in the way against sucessful easy sex in skyrim ! About gangbangs, they dont exist till today. your rape mod would enable it, if the slider would go down to Zero, but no, the modder prevent it again. Always the same. if you dont want to give the Player the freedom to Play as they like and force them to Play as you like, then please tell me in which script and in what line is that slider number , so i Change it by myself.
worik Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Teutonic said: Doesn't seem worth it to me. Brainstorming a bit around that.... Spoiler you create a set a few small standalone cells give them a bit varying "scum"/"lowlife" flair, tag them by flair select one of those randomly or based on the current hold with a matching flair now rape would be a bit like kidnapping player gets caught knock out -> fade to grey teleport to lair have fun in the "evil"'s lair fade to grey teleport back "you got what you deserved" .. bblabla texts by rapists end of rape The teleports would indded be breaking the flow again .. And your "is it worth" question still remains 1 hour ago, shiagwen said: there has been a mod, i cant find it anymore, who moved rapes to hidden places. Perhaps this one ?
shiagwen Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, worik said: Brainstorming a bit around that.... Reveal hidden contents you create a set a few small standalone cells give them a bit varying "scum"/"lowlife" flair, tag them by flair select one of those randomly or based on the current hold with a matching flair now rape would be a bit like kidnapping player gets caught knock out -> fade to grey teleport to lair have fun in the "evil"'s lair fade to grey teleport back "you got what you deserved" .. bblabla texts by rapists end of rape The teleports would indded be breaking the flow again .. And your "is it worth" question still remains Perhaps this one ? i dont mean this one. this one starts their own rape after teleporting to a place. the mod i mean moved the ongoing rape to another spot nearby. teutonic is right when he says he must look for such a spot in every City and Town, well if looking for 10-12 spots is too much work and he thinks that open road rape is realistic, what about his crimes then ?
Teutonic Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 @shiagwenFine, I will allow the slider to be set to zero. I did not do it before since I assumed everyone would enjoy at least a short period to recover, get dressed etc. Btw I would say that if 25 guys gang up on you and rape you, it constitutes gang rape, even if they don't do it for 3 days straight. Talking about realism, if you are going to apply our modern western standards here, I am afraid you will have to turn off at least proximity rape entirely. If everyone is either going to take part in the rape, or not going to do anything about it, why bother going to some secluded place at all? There would have to be a system for people to interrupt for this to even make sense. And how secluded is secluded enough? How many spots per city are enough? It's going to get old if it's the same spot over and over. How is the transition going to be? What to do with patrolling guards? It might sound simple, but there is actually a lot to consider. 1
matekun Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, shiagwen said: the mod i mean moved the ongoing rape to another spot nearby Maybe this: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3530-sexlab-privacy/ 1
shiagwen Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 you still have the slider not at Zero by Default. this is just for those, who want to test it and pull the slider to Zero. you hardly ever have 25 man in any Location, except you count full guards in on open street in a big City. usually you just have a threesome and thats it. to me, i would use rape at open streets only when pc is enslaved or full in skooma. i used random sex attacks for making voluntary gangbangs, she even get paid for. or rapes where it is clear that this will happen, like madanch gang in cidhna mine and druadach. or the alikir in swindlers nest. i used random sex attakcks for this, but, as i have written you, this mod is very Buggy and often does not start, means that the guys are coming, tap on their feet left right left and then , go away. and it doesnt work with pc and follower at all. there is nothing more delicious then pc and Lydia as shemales having their "morning meal" . i hope your mod function well where random sex attack does not, especially with follower. generally, a good mod has a lot of Options so Player can customize it to their Needs. cant be enough Options. depending on Situation, Pc will get Gold for the gangbang or will loose Gold. so best is if mod offers Gold Transfer from -50 to + 50 Gold x Level . isnt it ? you never make anything wrong with Options, You will Show your style by the Default Settings. about the spot. maybe i can use the escape option to move some steps nearby.
shiagwen Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, matekun said: Maybe this: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3530-sexlab-privacy/ Yes, thats it. same author than the other one. Problem was, that this mod often does not recognize rapes, espsecially not from raqndom sex , which is recommended. after being placed a couple of times in the middle of the Tundra i deleted this mod, as i remember. but the idea was good.
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