Devious Followers (8 June 2019)

[frhghz]

9 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

That really means "at least" heels, mittens and collar.

 

Wearing a corset, belt, or plug will not be a problem under those conditions.

 

You're probably getting dumped because you are accumulating too much debt too fast.

Once you are enslaved, you won't collect debt in the same way, unless you work really hard to annoy your helpful companion.

 

A few questions:

• Did you pick endless mode? That stops enslavement.
• What version are you running?
• How much debt do you have when you get enslaved?
• What is configured for your debt limits?
• Did you enable the option for your master to sell you?

hm, that maybe the case ?

 

the answers in order:

• no
• 1.72
• approx. 20k
• 1k I think (not really sure)
• Nope (but after I tried this one my willpower just keeps decreasing nothing more)

 

 

Edit: on another note, are the clothes just for UNP available??

[Lupine00]

32 minutes ago, frhghz said:

• approx. 20k
• 1k I think (not really sure)
• Nope (but after I tried this one my willpower just keeps decreasing nothing more)

There's your problem

 

Your debt is so out of scale with your debt limit - in such cases it's intended that you get disposed of.

 

Simply increase your debt limit to something more appropriate to the kind of debts you run up.

Or don't run up such big debts.

Or some combination of the two.

 

Exceeding the limit by a factor of 20, or even 5 is going to upset the follower.

Simply exceeding it should be enough to get you in some trouble. Give the follower a little time to react (one debt calculation phase at least).

In some cases, maybe you need to sleep for the follower to get really cranky. I forget now, it's been a long time since I looked at this stuff.

[Lostdreamer]

 

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I swapped back to Tat's 1.2.3 and all is well,

I'd like to report that this fix worked for me as well.

 

I didn't have quite as smooth results as everyone else - but:

swapping to the earlier version of slavetats

Disabling Devious Followers

Cleaning the Save

Renabling DF

 

...seems to have resulted in the expected/missing dialog options spawing so i'm assuming it's working fine.

 

 

Thanks for the support and help folks!

[jonsnuww]

Great mod.

2 short questions about the potion quest:

1. Is there a way to get out (no longer need to... you know)

2. What is the forced version, is that another quest?

 

Anyone who knows an answer feel free to reply!

[Inawen_ll]

Sharing the update here for those wanting the SE version :

 

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I finally got the time to take 2.01c for a spin and uploaded a conversion.

 

Long story short :

 

What has been tested and seems to work:

• PC as barter
• Vanilla (1.72) base deals
• Petsuit deal
• "Werid potion" deal (simple one is OK, forced one still KO)
• Followers like Serana seem to do OK with that version
• New compounded deals (though they sometimes overlap with vanilla deals)
• Keys game

 

What looks broken :

• Forced potion (as in v1.72)
• enslavement & slave discard after meeting debt thresholds
• it seems willpower does not budge (still at 10 after a particularly lengthy night being passed around in riften...)

 

I'd gladly look into events that can trigger based on willpower but I cannot really do this rn considering the last item I mentioned.

@Lozeak I don't know what's the willpower management status in v2.01c so I did not investigate further, maybe I'm missing sth really simple or have forgotten how it actually works ?

 

Does anyone here know if certain events (like enslavement or discard) don't work anymore on the regular version? That'd help me narrow down if this is strictly an SE issue (not that I know if I can fix it but hey... at least the info is out there), or a fix that needs to be applied to the original mod also.

 

I've been trying to scan that thread for reports on things similar to what I experienced, with no luck, so any pointers are appreciated ?

 

Hope this helps ?

[jonsnuww]

maybe retarded to ask this but I'm curious, what does the forced version do?

(Potion Quest)

 

thanks for reply btw

[Inawen_ll]

@jonsnuww From what I can gather, an NPC approaches your current DF and offers him/her money to make the PC drink a potion. I assume it is the same deal as the normal potion, just aimed towards the NPC but on SE I can't get any farther than the discussion and then am stuck not knowing what to do to accept / refuse (no menu, no new dialogue options on the NPC or DF ...), so not sure about the actual effect.

[Lupine00]

16 hours ago, Inawen_ll said:

Does anyone here know if certain events (like enslavement or discard) don't work anymore on the regular version? That'd help me narrow down if this is strictly an SE issue (not that I know if I can fix it but hey... at least the info is out there), or a fix that needs to be applied to the original mod also.

Discard and enslavement are working as expected in the pre 2.X versions.

 

Even since I paused the mod, then unpaused, I have trouble with it forgetting I have a DF on load though.

[weediyy]

Hi so im having a problem.

After a few hours of playing out of nowhere the dialogue option "About my debt" has disappeared, iv not added or removed any mods from the moment of install  and the debug options in the MCM are not helping the only dialogue option i have is "Do you have any devices" any ideas ??

[galgat]

32 minutes ago, weediyy said:

Hi so im having a problem.

After a few hours of playing out of nowhere the dialogue option "About my debt" has disappeared, iv not added or removed any mods from the moment of install  and the debug options in the MCM are not helping the only dialogue option i have is "Do you have any devices" any ideas ??

  I believe this happened to me once, I had to revert to and earlier save.  I did not look into it, and it has not happened again.  ( I have no help, but just wanted you to know it was something that I saw Once ) ( so you would know that you were not alone in this possible event Occurrence. )

[pihwht]

4 hours ago, weediyy said:

Hi so im having a problem.

After a few hours of playing out of nowhere the dialogue option "About my debt" has disappeared, iv not added or removed any mods from the moment of install  and the debug options in the MCM are not helping the only dialogue option i have is "Do you have any devices" any ideas ??

I had this happen twice, but both times it came back so I'm no help.

[Lupine00]

14 hours ago, weediyy said:

Hi so im having a problem.

After a few hours of playing out of nowhere the dialogue option "About my debt" has disappeared, iv not added or removed any mods from the moment of install  and the debug options in the MCM are not helping the only dialogue option i have is "Do you have any devices" any ideas ??

Yep. My idea is that your game stack dumped its Papyrus. This has left an arbitrary number of mods completely broken.

 

Your best likely fix is to revert to a save before it happened. If that's not possible, it's most likely that your DF will not work properly again ... but ...

 

From time to time, people have contrived to rescue a game that died like this.

 

Did you try the Debug option for a dialog to add a follower as a DF? Reset DF, then try it. It's worth a shot.

 

Failing that, you're into the very dodgy land of save cleaners.

e.g. Uninstall DF, clean the save, delete its scripts from your save, reinstall DF, see if DF working now?

 

 

Another thing is ... what broke your game? If that mod is still around chances are it will happen again, and only get worse.

 

 

If you were enslaved by DF, and you were playing out the "free fucks" scenario, then the dump probably came from within DF itself.

[QueenAshe]

I love the concept of this mod but it seems dependant on Dawnguard. Is there a plan to make the mod not rely on it? Thanks!

[tester86]

Hiya! I was trying to play with the new forced follower portion and I set my willpower to 0, put on a collar, and then approached a guard in Whiterun. He did what he does and escorted me to Janessa, my goto follower of choice in Whiterun... She's very easy to acquire. She asked why the guard was following me and I replied in a whisper. So far so good. She said, sure, hold up a minute and then... nothing. Nothing happens. I try talking to her and she has the [Click me] meaning she is now a Devious Follower but neither she or the guard says anything and now both follow me non stop.  I can pay her, dismiss her and immediately she asks why the guard is following me, I again whisper my response. She again says sure, hold up a sec and then nothing again. I tried this on two new games and same thing both times.  Any idea what I could be doing wrong?  Or what stage I should set to move to the next part?

 

Thanks!

[AnnaShapard]

8 hours ago, QueenAshe said:

I love the concept of this mod but it seems dependant on Dawnguard. Is there a plan to make the mod not rely on it? Thanks!

what do you mean with "but it seems dependant on Dawnguard."?

[Lozeak]

On 4/7/2019 at 7:35 PM, jonsnuww said:

Great mod.

2 short questions about the potion quest:

1. Is there a way to get out (no longer need to... you know)

2. What is the forced version, is that another quest?

 

Anyone who knows an answer feel free to reply!

 

No way out its kinda bad end content.

The forced version is you might get forced to drink the potion and not choose the person. (It's the same)

 

On 4/7/2019 at 8:13 PM, jonsnuww said:

maybe retarded to ask this but I'm curious, what does the forced version do?

(Potion Quest)

 

thanks for reply btw

As above. ^^

9 hours ago, QueenAshe said:

I love the concept of this mod but it seems dependant on Dawnguard. Is there a plan to make the mod not rely on it? Thanks!

Never a plan not to rely on it sorry. Mainly cause I don't want to publish multiple version of the mod.

That said you could try and delete the dependency in Tes5edit and MAYBE it'll work... can't promise tho.

 

2 hours ago, tester86 said:

Hiya! I was trying to play with the new forced follower portion and I set my willpower to 0, put on a collar, and then approached a guard in Whiterun. He did what he does and escorted me to Janessa, my goto follower of choice in Whiterun... She's very easy to acquire. She asked why the guard was following me and I replied in a whisper. So far so good. She said, sure, hold up a minute and then... nothing. Nothing happens. I try talking to her and she has the [Click me] meaning she is now a Devious Follower but neither she or the guard says anything and now both follow me non stop.  I can pay her, dismiss her and immediately she asks why the guard is following me, I again whisper my response. She again says sure, hold up a sec and then nothing again. I tried this on two new games and same thing both times.  Any idea what I could be doing wrong?  Or what stage I should set to move to the next part?

 

Thanks!

I THINK it's broken I'll look into it (or I've already fixed but didn't update). Best thing to do is click on the guard and go into the console and type disable! 

 

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Mini Update: Been taking a break! 

 

Working on a bug fix atm... funny I expected more bugs.

 

Next, I need to rewrite the OP to help people use the mod.

Then start adding more deals!! 

[Crota]

Just have to praise you for this mod. It really brought back the skyrim content for me and gets me to try and play the game and keep up with debt as I play. 

 

EASILY my favorite mod.

[galgat]

Thank you for the 2.02 update, Sounds good. ?

[my boii]

is there a way to set willpower to 0 via console command? I wouldn't ask if I hadn't searched first. thanks

[galgat]

1 hour ago, my boii said:

is there a way to set willpower to 0 via console command? I wouldn't ask if I hadn't searched first. thanks

set _dwill to 0

[Kalthen]

Few questions ?

 

I've been running 2.0 for a while now and just got to the state where I have the custom deals on 3. There are a few new ones like the merchant and inn ones I got. But I couldn't get them to trigger. How do they fire? 

 

In the inn there is an option to buy a bed for the follower but it just passes time. Is that intentional or is there more to it?

 

In the new update LDC is mentioned. What is LDC (darn LL with its' acronyms. :-p)? Edit: Got it. Customization, lol. Not quite clear.

 

@Lozeak Thx for the updates, your the best, man.

 

 

[noplacetorun]

On 3/30/2019 at 8:16 PM, FiddleMeTimbers said:

So I did some testing and found a conflict with Player Succubus Quest. As long as PSQ is in my load order devious followers wont actually start.

Thanks. I wish I found this post sooner.

[aventadorlp670]

Thank u for updating~ 

I'm sorry for bringing some bad news again...

Well, first of all, i completely uninstalled the DF2.01c and have the version 2.02 installed to prevent anything goes wrong.

I'm asuming "LDC will only initialize on a new game" meaning LDC will initialize every time since the DF starts right? Cause everytime i start a new save and hired a new follower and asking for a debt deal in the frist time, the JSON rebuit, no matter it has been edited or not.

But the major problem is, after that i deleted most of devices except Black Leather/Ebonite, the follower don't give me devices anymore. Such as "I want you to wear some cuffs", but she didn't give me anything, and there is no punishment either. If I don't edit the JSON, everything works fine perfectly.

I try to delete not so much devices and keep at least one of each kind, still don't work. 

Then I try to edit sets, the follower will give me the devices, but i still receviced the devices which were not including in the sets.

Did i do something wrong during edit the JSON...? I'm posting them to see if that was my fault...

 

* the deals were in use but i didn't received any devices.

 

Device Settings.jsonthis is the JSON which keep the devices at least one of each kind

 

Device Settings.jsonthis is the JSON which only contained the devices I want, both of them didn't work and stop from the follower giving me any devices.

[galgat]

11 hours ago, Kalthen said:

Few questions ?

 

I've been running 2.0 for a while now and just got to the state where I have the custom deals on 3. There are a few new ones like the merchant and inn ones I got. But I couldn't get them to trigger. How do they fire? 

 

In the inn there is an option to buy a bed for the follower but it just passes time. Is that intentional or is there more to it?

 

In the new update LDC is mentioned. What is LDC (darn LL with its' acronyms. :-p)? Edit: Got it. Customization, lol. Not quite clear.

 

@Lozeak Thx for the updates, your the best, man.

 

 

  I have not made the merchant one fire either. I may not be doing something right.

 

I am assuming the 50 septims for the follower a room is maybe a place holder for a player entertains the tavern folk while the follower sleeps. But that is just a guess.

[Black Justicar]

7 hours ago, aventadorlp670 said:

Then I try to edit sets, the follower will give me the devices, but i still receviced the devices which were not including in the sets.

Did i do something wrong during edit the JSON...?

Same for me