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winny257

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Probably not, that would only add more fuel to the fire imo, then again this is EA, one never knows.

 

Im not happy with this at all, they had a good opportunity to make something great and push the games towards something new that wasnt there before.

Giving it to a support studio just shows how much EA cared about the ME franchise.

 

 

their wanted it so, first a huge hate campaign start and in return ask for DLCs!

 

that makes BioWare now.

 

First indications for the new IP of BioWare

Several publishers were sent by Publisher Electronic Arts to the Studio EA Motive, also based in Montreal.

Motive belongs to one of a total of three studios that work on Star Wars Battlefront 2. So it is clear where this year's focus is.

The remaining employees at BioWare Montreal will now support other BioWare studios and continue to develop patches for Mass Effect: Andromeda multiplayer.

 

http://www.giga.de/spiele/mass-effect-4-andromeda/news/mass-effect-andromeda-reihe-auf-eis-gelegt-bioware-wird-umstrukturiert/

Lexi SubZero

Lexi SubZero

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OMG... Why did they do that.. :(

Well it happened with Watch Dogs, Aliens: Colonial Marines...I guess it's starting to be a common practice. Show off a polished gem in trailers...cash in on pre-orders...deliver a steaming pile of turd on launch.  <_<

winny257

winny257

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OMG... Why did they do that.. :(

Well it happened with Watch Dogs, Aliens: Colonial Marines...I guess it's starting to be a common practice. Show off a polished gem in trailers...cash in on pre-orders...deliver a steaming pile of turd on launch.  <_<

 

 

Not only, these Video Trailers are presented to the investors to show you that good work is done.

If the investors would see the garbage, then they would withdraw their funding.  ;)

 

edit: then only this video, for Pre Orders to making would be useless, It would present of false facts!

This would be a crime in germany!

prinyo

prinyo

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To be fair with EA they did offer a 10 hours trial so it is not only the trailer that the customers can base their decision to buy or not. It was the trial that made me decide to not buy this game.

Chbaakal

Chbaakal

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To be fair with EA they did offer a 10 hours trial so it is not only the trailer that the customers can base their decision to buy or not. It was the trial that made me decide to not buy this game.

 

At least there was a trial, but I've kept EA at planetary-arms length for anything they have a hand in, so I was surprised when a trial was presented. However, it looked to me as if EA\Bileware KNEW that this game was not 'up to spec' early on, or that some fans would be...disappointed...that it wasn't like the other games in the series. The trial was a gimmick, though; one thought up as an excuse if any of their consumers didn't get their money back before the ten-hour period, or 'fans' that thought the game would get better after patches.

 

The corporate lice nowadays are devious, and have more lawyers than you can shoot with a .9mm and full vanilla clip, without reloading.

 

Wonder if there will ever be a time again when we, as gamers, are treated not as Consumers, but as Customers by these bastards....

 

 

Nah....

 

RitualClarity

RitualClarity

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OMG... Why did they do that.. :(

Well it happened with Watch Dogs, Aliens: Colonial Marines...I guess it's starting to be a common practice. Show off a polished gem in trailers...cash in on pre-orders...deliver a steaming pile of turd on launch.  <_<

 

I forget where I read this however;

as the developers build the game they (the artist and such) have higher poly count assets then they expected to use for the game. It is easier to optimize the game (lower the poly count, mess with lighting etc) later as they develop the game so that it can run on the targeted computers. One example is the Fallout New Vegas town. It was complete and connected in the promos that they shown. Only later they divided it up in to different cells. The reason and still a few years later it killed my machine when I used the patch that recovered that as well as other deleted items. Is it wasn't able to run properly on X-box 360.

 

So, I have some understanding and acceptance that the poly count and some lighting will be changed from the promo and the actual released game to match the weakest games that they will be selling to. yes, there are ways around this but it takes more money and effort to do and mostly game companies are in it for the profit. Profit isn't a bad thing, it helps them move on and create newer and better games and technology. Profit is expected and deserved for a company that does their job (Like CK Project Red/Witcher III)

 

The issues that were shown there with the facial animations and such were inexcusable. I can't see why they needed to down the poly or other features there. Perhaps change the lighting slightly etc but not the extreme changes done. That crap is like someone handing me Witcher III and having me optimize it without having the skills to do so. The end result will be total crap. it is like someone was training someone on it and forgot to revert those changes. Sure there was some experimental time (and money) saving facial animation program running and such to help them develop the game and not have to hand tweak the scenes... however, this had to be experimental. That might be good to give a start to a game but nowhere good enough for a finished product. If they were using this then use it first, then make the changes as needed afterward. In the clip it looked like they did it backwards. Like much of their work on the game.

The changes from Watchdogs from my understanding was due to making it able to be played on lesser systems than was developed on. This is understandable. Not pretty and such but understandable. Having someone look like they have palsy (no offense to anyone that does have it) is inexcusable.

 

Hell even if the script for conversations and such sucked as bad as it does but the rest was spit and polished I don't believe such an outcry of hatrid for this game would have occurred. It looks like the game hit every branch on the ugly tree on the way down. (private Ryan reference :P) If there was something they could fuck up, they did. They went from a acceptable (presentation) to an Alpha model.

 

Changing the poly count, shorting some of the textures and meshes and such acceptable if done to make it compatible with the suggested hardware. What MEA did ... unacceptable.

Deso561PL

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To be fair with EA they did offer a 10 hours trial so it is not only the trailer that the customers can base their decision to buy or not. It was the trial that made me decide to not buy this game.

 

But only for those who got now EA Access. I don't have it so no trial yet.

Kargrin

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Yup, a "free" paid trial.

 

Interesting enough, I've read that MEA reached expectations, but then Kotaku breaks it as a disaster. Which one is right?

Maybe the later, since its confirmed by EA  the new BioWare IP was postponed...

27X

27X

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It sold less than 2 or 3. It made HALF of what it was expected to lifetime. It made the bottom end of theoretical sales to meet profitability, which is why they're pulling the plug now, because making new aftermarket DLC will directly put this game in the red, because that DLC isn't going to sell copies like ME3MP did.

 

3MP is actually the reason 3 made a clear profit at all after it became the most dropped sales in week 2 game in history until Aliens: Colonial Marines. Three's multiplayer was wildly successful and made far more money than they thought it would, and the monetization scheme from it is actually now the industry-wide standard for that reason.

 

AMP also managed to completely fuck up MP as well, so they aren't getting any money from that either. 

 

This game is basically the biggest AAA fuck up since Colonial Marines, and in a world where Assassin's Creed Unity and No Man's Sky is a thing, that's pretty impressive, and it was a big enough fuck up that Mass Effect is now 'on hiatus', just like Dead Space and Dylan got delayed almost a year and a half, because Bioware just came to realization that their brand name and feels and politically based social media only marketing doesn't sell games, because people stupid and arrogant enough to base their entire world view on politics don't play or buy games.

 

The Emperor had to go home and buy some clothes.

RitualClarity

RitualClarity

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Yup, a "free" paid trial.

 

Interesting enough, I've read that MEA reached expectations, but then Kotaku breaks it as a disaster. Which one is right?

Maybe the later, since its confirmed by EA  the new BioWare IP was postponed...

Likely both. They reached expectation in sales. The hype and anticipation caused for the sales to reach the minimum expected numbers.

 

The disaster is the public PR nightmare and continuing attacks at the quality and actions of MEA creators even after post patch.

 

Ripping the location where this was developed all to hell and moving many of those people around means likely that the biggest brass didn't realize what or how actually bad it was. The issue might have been more middle management or location management that was assuring the bigger up that all was up to par.

 

Ive seen that level of gutting only occur when the uppers was surprised at the actions and results of their subordinates. They won't let them be more than a support facility until they can prove their upper local management is solid again. If ever. Working on a flagship franchise is a privilege not an entitlement and not to be taken lightly. Whomever was responsible for the quality control of this pushed it to far and is ass hurt badly now. (EA usually like others have mentioned in videos and such give a lower quality and some issues for a quick patch later. Perhaps it is due to tight development schedules and they know there are some issue but will fix along with some other issues all at once or to release to meet a desired time for sales)

 

They could have hired a team of ammatures. People known in the modding community, to create the game or at least overlook it and gotten a much better quality. It is unacceptable.

prinyo

prinyo

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I'm quite happy with the "free" payed trial. Paying 4 euro saved me from paying 60 and spared me from tens of hours of annoyances.

 

 

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Seems somebody managed to trigger the hidden gay scene with Liam  :lol:

 

sen4mi

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I suspect that the problem was that the people on the dev team were not working together to get stuff done.

 

Like, for example, on Eos, there are various triggers which would make sense if they triggered only once (or only before scans) but instead they keep happening like you had never encountered that situation before. Or, for example, there are quest items which get counted when you pick them up, that you can somehow pick up multiple times.

 

Basically, it conveys the idea that the people who were putting this together were not working together. So presumably the hope is that a smaller team will not have so much difficulty coordinating. A smaller team has limitations, of course, but if the community gives them decent feedback they should be able to get a lot of good stuff done.

 

Or, that is my theory... and I am sticking to it, for now.

27X

27X

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Not right.

 

When EA has to step in and say "on hiatus", that's pretty much it. The last two franchises they put 'on hiatus' resulted in a studio closing each.

KoolHndLuke

KoolHndLuke

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So what happens to the franchises that Bio made if they get axed? Even though this was a major disappointment, the basic story ideas behind Mass Effect and Dragon Age were very creative at the very least. Will EA just put them on a shelf and let them collect dust? Who will be their next victim?

LukeDuke

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Whaaaat?? DA4 is secure, it is made by different people than ME team...

 

And if MEA would not be such a turd, there would not be ''hate campaign'' :P

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