Devious Devices - Expansion

[Reesewow]

 

 

I can't reproduce this.

Could you supply a papyrus log of you equipping the item and having the bug occur? As well a copy of your loadorder (prefably posted in a spoiler tag, as those things tend to get very long! ).

 

 

 

No problem, log attached with a new character.  Consoled in a single shock piercing and a handful of removal tools, equipped it and got the normal equip dialogues and had them show up on the character, then looked back in the inventory and saw a both a (commonsoulgem) and (shock) piercing listed as equipped in my character's inventory.  

 

Proceeded to unequip the shock piercing (which unequipped both in inventory) and equip the commonsoulgem (only shows the commonsoulgem showing as equipped) and alternate between the two a few times.  I notice papyrus is only showing lines for (commonsoulgem), but I'm actually alternating between the two in my inventory.  I've also noticed that if I trigger the bug and then try to unequip the glitched duplicate gem, it causes issues with the game not knowing which is equipped or telling me I have duplicate piercings.

 

Not a significant issue for me, just wanted to report it as I have no other issues with DD items/piercings and it seemed odd.

 

Loadorder 

 

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

SexLab.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

CreatureFramework.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp=1

RealisticWoodenMannequins.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1

SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp=1

MoreNastyCritters.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

SexLabWerewolves.esp=1

HentaiCreatures.esp=1

SexLab Cumshot.esp=1

SSv2.esp=1

Inigo.esp=1

SofiaFollower.esp=1

Sunsakuka's Follower.esp=1

_sunya.esp=1

MirielleFollower.esp=1

DeadlyDragons.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

sr_FillHerUp.esp=1

Apropos.esp=1

SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1

Customizable Camera.esp=1

Animated Dragon Wings.esp=1

Shaydows VampireLord Replacer OVERHAUL.esp=1

mslVLKerriganWings.esp=1

DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp=0

Daedric Extra Armor.esp=1

DragonPlateBrazen.esp=1

Skysan_GlassNTGBow.esp=1

Witch Of The Wild.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

calyps-bosmer.esp=1

Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp=1

Gwelda Armor Pack.esp=1

Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp=1

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp=1

Tembtra Thief Armor.esp=1

Emfy Cleric Robes.esp=1

Ursine Armor Pack.esp=1

AncientDraugr.esp=1

Merta Assassin Armor.esp=1

ChainmailBikini.esp=1

Shiny Catsuits.esp=1

Ballet Boots.esp=1

DarkStandalone.esp=1

AH1 piercings.esp=1

Zipsuit.esp=1

NewVampChainsGloves.esp=1

NewVampChainsCuirass.esp=1

Blood Raven - CBBE.esp=1

TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1

Terapack2015.esp=1

TeraSeaRover.esp=1

Strap.esp=1

yangyang_SavageArmor.esp=1

Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp=1

Minou Aradia Leather Thief Armor CBBE TBBP.esp=1

Gatti2Misogi.esp=1

CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp=1

LUSH Gear SetA.esp=1

AradiaBikini.esp=1

Arcane Knicker.esp=1

GDZZJJDH.esp=1

ZZStuff.esp=1

Remodeled Armor.esp=1

tentacleArmor.esp=1

R18Pn - Leere Armor.esp=1

R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.esp=1

SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

animal_mansion.esp=1

BesEss.esp=1

SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1

SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1

SexLabDefeat.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

Seductress Serana.esp=1

Marriable Serana.esp=1

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

CD - ShinyRubberCatsuits addonV3.esp=1

CD - DarkDiscipleStandaloneV3.esp=1

CD - TeraCBBE Standalone addonV3.esp=1

zzEstrus.esp=0

EstrusChaurus.esp=1

DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1

mslDeviousCaptures.esp=1

DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp=1

Deviously Cursed Loot.esp=1

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp=1

SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp=1

Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1

SBF Brelyna.esp=1

Frea.esp=1

BW Ingjard.esp=1

 

 

 

 

[Coopervane]

*facepalms*

 

Yup, i see the problem, the CK somehow managed to roll back a change i made almost a week ago.

 

 

Ohh well, it woulden't be a proper DD-joint release without a bug or two

[Reesewow]

*facepalms*

 

Yup, i see the problem, the CK somehow managed to roll back a change i made almost a week ago.

 

 

Ohh well, it woulden't be a proper DD-joint release without a bug or two

 

Pretty much why I posted it 

[Ailsa]

 

This looks superb, so much work has obviously gone into it.

 

Sadly I will have to go without trying it out as I really, really do not like or want the HDT (?) High heels mod in my game.  However again I would like to repeat that I think you have done a superb job on this 

Glad you like it! You'll be pleased to know that DD Assets items other than the boots (the gloves, corset and collar) don't actually require HDT, or High Heels. Only Expansion items do. Which was one of the reasons to create Expansion in the first place.

 

Thank you for your response 

 

Several of the DD mods that I would have liked to try also require Expansion unfortunately. 

[Min]

 

 

This looks superb, so much work has obviously gone into it.

 

Sadly I will have to go without trying it out as I really, really do not like or want the HDT (?) High heels mod in my game.  However again I would like to repeat that I think you have done a superb job on this 

Glad you like it! You'll be pleased to know that DD Assets items other than the boots (the gloves, corset and collar) don't actually require HDT, or High Heels. Only Expansion items do. Which was one of the reasons to create Expansion in the first place.

 

Thank you for your response 

 

Several of the DD mods that I would have liked to try also require Expansion unfortunately. 

 

Unless it's changed since my original implementation, the HDT High Heels dependency is a soft-dependency, not a hard one. You should be able to use all expansion items sans boots (Which will refuse to equip) without it.

[sen4mi]

I have not read through this thread to see if this issue has been reported, yet, but the requirements links at http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1305-devious-devices-expansion-v12/are all broken (because the middle of each url has been cut out and replaced with '...')

[Coopervane]

 

Pretty much why I posted it  

 

Fortunately it's a quite harmless bug, so i'm not in a hurry to fix it.

 

 

Rather i'm going to give it a few days and see if anything else pops up, and in the meantime, i had to drop a few planned features from this build to focus more of my attention on the DDa and DDi updates, so i'm going to work on including those, and make a more worthwhile release out of it

 

 

So yeah, get your bug reports in peoples (if there are more, which hopefully there isen't), like this one for example..

 

I have not read through this thread to see if this issue has been reported, yet, but the requirements links at http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1305-devious-devices-expansion-v12/are all broken (because the middle of each url has been cut out and replaced with '...')

 

Indeed, seems i was a little too quick on the copy/paste there. They should be linking now

 

Unless it's changed since my original implementation, the HDT High Heels dependency is a soft-dependency, not a hard one. You should be able to use all expansion items sans boots (Which will refuse to equip) without it.

 

Nope, that has not been changed. Putting on boots without having HDT-HHS installed should just display an error box saying "This device requires HDT-HHS which you do not have installed", and then fail to equip the boots to prevent any problems.

[Yuni]

Edit: (I'm having clipping issues complaint here)

 

For those still having clipping issues, it's your bodyslide. Body variants or bodyslide adjusted bodies have clipping issues, because the new restrictive devious devices sit on top of the body mesh instead of being replacements, like other devious devices. If you want to have a custom breast size and still not have clipping issues on the boots/gloves, just base your body slide adjustment off of CBBE classic and ONLY adjust the size of your breasts, not hips or waist or arms and so forth. Nipples and aureola work fine, etc. Be smart about it.

[Aelie]

Edit: (I'm having clipping issues complaint here)

 

For those still having clipping issues, it's your bodyslide. Body variants or bodyslide adjusted bodies have clipping issues, because the new restrictive devious devices sit on top of the body mesh instead of being replacements, like other devious devices. If you want to have a custom breast size and still not have clipping issues on the boots/gloves, just base your body slide adjustment off of CBBE classic and ONLY adjust the size of your breasts, not hips or waist or arms and so forth. Nipples and aureola work fine, etc. Be smart about it.

 

i dont know of any devious items that actually replace your body mesh, unless im missing one...

[Coopervane]

i dont know of any devious items that actually replace your body mesh, unless im missing one...

 

The blocking-harness from DDx kinda sorta almost does.. kinda.. atleast it loads in your installed body-mesh (it's not swapping the body mesh to an included one, but it is loading in your installed one). Normaly that's no problem at all, but it does cause some hickups for people playing race-mods which are ment to load in a different body-mesh stored in a different location than the default one.

 

 

Alas, i'm happy to report that i'm not working on anything at all or making any progress, all is well and lazy at fort DDx.

 

 

 

Least of all Red/White/Ebonite versions of the new gear, nops, not working on that at all.

 

 

 

[Princessity]

That's so disappointing Coop! I guess it's going to be a loooong time till we see something new added to DDx

[Zsar]

Mmh. It seems that since the last two versions, there is an issue with Slave Harness and any chastity belt:

Both show up fine if worn separately, but when both are equipped, the belt turns invisible. Integration's Device Hider is disabled.

- Can anyone reproduce?

 

Incidentally and probably not worth a separate post, I also find that "Gag (Ring) (Harness)" is invisible once equipped, whereas all other harness gags display fine (and the simple ring gag does as well).

[Coopervane]

The first is not really a bug, the belt is beeing hidden by the DDi Device-Hider. Go into the Devious Devices MCM menu and you can change which slots hide what slots on the fly. For harness use you'll want to ensure that neither Slot-32 or Slot-58 are hiding Slot-49.

 

I can't reproduce the harness ring gag issue, though this would be a DDa bug if there is one. Open your DDa 2.9.0 install file and locate "gagHarnessRing.nif" (it's in 00_core/meshes/devious/devices/) and manually drag that into your game at ../Skyrim/data/meshes/devious/devices/.

[Zsar]

I made sure that all slots (including "Item Hider Slot") are empty. No effect.

- Do I need to wait for this change to take effect? (disabled Device Hider, then donned items)

 

There is a "gagHarnessRing.nif" file in place already. It matches the file from the archive in date of last change (02.02.2015) and size (477.460 Bytes).

I replaced it anyway for no effect.

... If you cannot reproduce this issue, it will probably go away after the reinstallation I plan to do anyway, so not too important.

[Princessity]

Are you sure you don't have any outdated DD dependant mods? I heard "Devious Devices For Him" needs to be brought up to speed

[Zsar]

Mmh... that may well be. Well, if both issues cannot be reproduced, I will be content to hope that after reinstallation they will be gone.

 

addendum: Actually I checked, and your guess is spot-on. Thank you for the hint.

[pavelius_pavlentius]

I'm not sure where to post - here, or in Integration topic. Speaking of immersiveness, wearing a belt for too long would have the consequences, such as unable to... you know... poop. What about periodic event from soulgem plug, that woud work like enema, emerge some fluid in, but instead of you had to push it out, the plug would do it by itself, store everything like the regular soulgem, and eventually... teleport it or something to the Soul Cairn, like the lore description of soulgem mechanics. I dont know papyrus code language, but i think it would be something like that:

OnInsert()->Set Timer 0; Timer++; if(Timer=<somevalue>) { alert ("some message about plug working"); BellyScale+=<somevalue>; wait(10000); BellyScale==1; alert(<"messageaboutyoufeelemtynow">; Timer==0;};

 

 

[Koffii]

Nah. While all Skyrim characters eat, none of them ever needs to poop, so there's no need for that. It's a feature, not a bug.

[Aelie]

Nah. While all Skyrim characters eat, none of them ever needs to poop, so there's no need for that. It's a feature, not a bug.

 

apparently not running this mod.

[Koffii]

Well then that mod can implement their own special, uh, equipment, if they like, right?

[Guest]

I've noticed the some corsets have the dismemberment instance of 46 but the belt mesh of the same nif are 49 I am no genius but I believe this can cause issues.

[Koffii]

That's intentional.

[pavelius_pavlentius]

I'm not sure where to post - here, or in Integration topic. Speaking of immersiveness, wearing a belt for too long would have the consequences, such as unable to... you know... poop. What about periodic event from soulgem plug, that woud work like enema, emerge some fluid in, but instead of you had to push it out, the plug would do it by itself, store everything like the regular soulgem, and eventually... teleport it or something to the Soul Cairn, like the lore description of soulgem mechanics. I dont know papyrus code language, but i think it would be something like that:

OnInsert()->Set Timer 0; Timer++; if(Timer=<somevalue>) { alert ("some message about plug working"); BellyScale+=<somevalue>; wait(10000); BellyScale==1; alert(<"messageaboutyoufeelemtynow">; Timer==0;};

 

Have found that Private Needs does provide the feature to block poop while in belt.

[Guest Hellethia]

Hello !

 

I have a little problem of clipping. All new restrictive gear is working perfectly except the restrictive gloves. I use the UNPB BBP body, and i installed DDx with UNP TBBP.

 

Did i do something wrong at a moment or is it a reccurent problem ?

 

Here's a pic of what i have

 

[Koffii]

UNPB is no longer supported. We have switched it out for UNP. So, your problem is that you're using UNPB. You can either switch to UNP 1.2, or UNP HDT-PE-TBBP 5.01, or if you're that attached to UNPB, wait for someone to make a conversion.