Devious Devices - Expansion

[wubwubwub]

No form of jiggle physics is required by this mod, nor do i intend to make that a requirement.

 

What's needed is the High-Heel-System to make the boots work properly (which sadly also has "HDT" in it's name, and that seems to confuse everybody):

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36213/?

 

 

Looks like the forum software is intent on breaking the links every time i update the OP. Guess i need to get into the habit of manually fixing them with every update. Well, i'll go do that now. For those of you following the thread, that was the update, i fixed links, nothing to get excited about.

 

Suggestion: copy / paste the OP from a text file. If it's sitting in notepad the links won't get eaten by the forum's shortening software.

[Mart0206]

Did somebody know, if there is a cbbe bodyslide support for these items?

[CliftonJD]

having an issue with the binders/yokes/steel restraints since the latest updates i haven't been able to track down how many of the anims are affected by it, so far seems almost every sexlab anim is blocked wearing these, the player will attempt to masterbate if wearing a belt or just stand there if not wearing 1, but either way, eventually concedes that you can't reach yourself to masterbate when its intended to be a partner scene, not masterbation, there's no reason for oral scenes to be blocked by an armbinder for example

 

Edit: no idea if color of the item effects it, my preferences on loot are set to ebonite

[Coopervane]

having an issue with the binders/yokes/steel restraints since the latest updates i haven't been able to track down how many of the anims are affected by it, so far seems almost every sexlab anim is blocked wearing these, the player will attempt to masterbate if wearing a belt or just stand there if not wearing 1, but either way, eventually concedes that you can't reach yourself to masterbate when its intended to be a partner scene, not masterbation, there's no reason for oral scenes to be blocked by an armbinder for example

 

Edit: no idea if color of the item effects it, my preferences on loot are set to ebonite

 

It's not caused by this mod, nor DDi, but by something else.

 

Best bet for finding it: Disable all SL and DD mods you've got except SL itself, and DDa/DDi/DDx, then reenable them one by one to see which one is causing it.

[CliftonJD]

alrigt i'll look into sd first then cursed loot for that issue, but that'll require another new game to remove sd and anything else sexlab related i'd suspect should be fine so i'll wait til those are cleared before checking others, my first guess is something to do with the new kneeling anims while bound for sd, but that's just a guess, i'll have to look some other time since its not game breaking

[SullenMan]

I have ceased to appear on the body "armbinder" and "ball-gag" and "gag-ring" ... nipple piercing is also not visible. what can I do? change the boot order of mods?

can somebody tell my about mod list order? or maybe skeleton?

[Sacremas]

I have an issue with a devious harness that was put on my by Deviously Cursed Loot, the item is called RD-Harness and seems to mess up my body (I use UNPB), and I can't get it off now no matter what I do. I found a smith that took 200 gold to remove it, but it didn't get removed. I tried console removing it and no effect. Next step is putting everything I can remove in a chest then doing Player.removeallitems. Is this a known bug and how would I normally get rid of it? I'm level 3 and I don't have any method to get rid of it, picking, spell and forcing all failed. Can anyone tell me what key I need to get it off so I can try that?

[wubwubwub]

I have an issue with a devious harness that was put on my by Deviously Cursed Loot, the item is called RD-Harness and seems to mess up my body (I use UNPB), and I can't get it off now no matter what I do. I found a smith that took 200 gold to remove it, but it didn't get removed. I tried console removing it and no effect. Next step is putting everything I can remove in a chest then doing Player.removeallitems. Is this a known bug and how would I normally get rid of it? I'm level 3 and I don't have any method to get rid of it, picking, spell and forcing all failed. Can anyone tell me what key I need to get it off so I can try that?

 

Any chance you were looting a number of containers quickly and several cursed loot events "queued" up and triggered after you were done? You may have also seen an error message about being unable to equip an item because another is already in that slot.

 

I'm asking because I've managed to get the inventory and cosmetic items that make up a DD item out of sync when the above happens to me. It's rare, but when it hits it's as you described.

[CliftonJD]

I have an issue with a devious harness that was put on my by Deviously Cursed Loot, the item is called RD-Harness and seems to mess up my body (I use UNPB), and I can't get it off now no matter what I do. I found a smith that took 200 gold to remove it, but it didn't get removed. I tried console removing it and no effect. Next step is putting everything I can remove in a chest then doing Player.removeallitems. Is this a known bug and how would I normally get rid of it? I'm level 3 and I don't have any method to get rid of it, picking, spell and forcing all failed. Can anyone tell me what key I need to get it off so I can try that?

 

barring what he said below the harness you described sounds like the red ebonite harness, which is removable with a chastity key, but if it's a red ebonite slave harness then it'll require a restraints key

what i would recommend first off is to put all unlocked dd items into a barel as planned, then attempt to put the remaining locked items into the barrel so those scripts reset and the response below is no longer an issue

next you can find either of those keys thru devious loot or the smith at captured dreams might also be able to help with it

the normal blacksmiths thru out skyrim in whiterun or riverwood will only remove secure locked items - those are devious devices that have no quests or keys to remove them

 

I have an issue with a devious harness that was put on my by Deviously Cursed Loot, the item is called RD-Harness and seems to mess up my body (I use UNPB), and I can't get it off now no matter what I do. I found a smith that took 200 gold to remove it, but it didn't get removed. I tried console removing it and no effect. Next step is putting everything I can remove in a chest then doing Player.removeallitems. Is this a known bug and how would I normally get rid of it? I'm level 3 and I don't have any method to get rid of it, picking, spell and forcing all failed. Can anyone tell me what key I need to get it off so I can try that?

 

Any chance you were looting a number of containers quickly and several cursed loot events "queued" up and triggered after you were done? You may have also seen an error message about being unable to equip an item because another is already in that slot.

 

I'm asking because I've managed to get the inventory and cosmetic items that make up a DD item out of sync when the above happens to me. It's rare, but when it hits it's as you described.

 

[Sacremas]

Thanks for the responses.

 

I tried Removelallitems and it took everything except the DD items, they appear stuck to me. I'm not sure exaclty where the items came from, I only go ttwo messages about finding equipment and putting it on, once was in a boss chest at the end of a dungeon, another was on a bandit chief ,bandit chief put on the harness, pierced soulgem nipples (which levitate three inches from my breasts) and a collar which doesn't appear in my inventory and smiths have no idea how to remove. Previously I'd had the CD Ebonite harness and plugs on when making a delivery for CD, but those were taken off me afterwards. This harness is not called Ebonite, just RD-Harness. On the boss chest I got armbinders as well but I CTDed before I could ever try removing those.

For now I'm keeping that save and the installed mods on another backup profile and have made another profile without Devious to continue. If anyone can point out some way to get rid of those items a bit easier then I'll go back to those and play with Devious. Basically I'm looking for a bit of an "easy mode" where once out of enslavement from SD+ or the like I can get those damn things off without them preventing my sex with othe rmods.

 

Something was up with the harness as well, when it was equipped then on Showracemenu my face changed entirely, my eyes (Runic Eyes) were no longer available to be chosen and SG Hair, KS hair and Apachii har was all gone and only hairs I could choose was Ren hair. This means I can't go in there to change my breasts so the damn piercings won't float in the air while I'm wearing them. Upon uninstalling Devious and related mods so I didn't have the harness (was only way to get rid of it) Showracemenu showed all my hairs and eyes.

[Coopervane]

 

Any chance you were looting a number of containers quickly and several cursed loot events "queued" up and triggered after you were done? You may have also seen an error message about being unable to equip an item because another is already in that slot.

 

I'm asking because I've managed to get the inventory and cosmetic items that make up a DD item out of sync when the above happens to me. It's rare, but when it hits it's as you described.

 

Yeah that'd be my guess aswell, the item got desynced.

 

Advice on fixing that from the DDi thread:

 

Attempting to interact with a specific device while having multiple instances of it in your inventory is ill-advised, due to a limitation with Skyrim. Doing so will unpredictably cause Skyrim to not send the Papyrus events that the devices require to function (OnUnequipped / OnEquipped), leading to a device visually being equipped, despite being unequipped in your inventory. If you encounter this issue, remove all but one copy of the problem-device from your inventory, then re-equip said device.

 

If not that, then it would have to be a Dcur issue, which means you should ask for help there. I don't use Dcur so i have no clue what it's doing.

[CliftonJD]

Thanks for the responses.

 

I tried Removelallitems and it took everything except the DD items, they appear stuck to me. I'm not sure exaclty where the items came from, I only go ttwo messages about finding equipment and putting it on, once was in a boss chest at the end of a dungeon, another was on a bandit chief ,bandit chief put on the harness, pierced soulgem nipples (which levitate three inches from my breasts) and a collar which doesn't appear in my inventory and smiths have no idea how to remove. Previously I'd had the CD Ebonite harness and plugs on when making a delivery for CD, but those were taken off me afterwards. This harness is not called Ebonite, just RD-Harness. On the boss chest I got armbinders as well but I CTDed before I could ever try removing those.

For now I'm keeping that save and the installed mods on another backup profile and have made another profile without Devious to continue. If anyone can point out some way to get rid of those items a bit easier then I'll go back to those and play with Devious. Basically I'm looking for a bit of an "easy mode" where once out of enslavement from SD+ or the like I can get those damn things off without them preventing my sex with othe rmods.

 

Something was up with the harness as well, when it was equipped then on Showracemenu my face changed entirely, my eyes (Runic Eyes) were no longer available to be chosen and SG Hair, KS hair and Apachii har was all gone and only hairs I could choose was Ren hair. This means I can't go in there to change my breasts so the damn piercings won't float in the air while I'm wearing them. Upon uninstalling Devious and related mods so I didn't have the harness (was only way to get rid of it) Showracemenu showed all my hairs and eyes.

"bandit chief put on the harness, pierced soulgem nipples... and a collar which doesn't appear in my inventory"

the collar doesn't appear in inventory cuz its busted, that's a cursed loot bug you should let kimi know so she can fix the mod from doing it again

Edit: actually wondering tho if that's a loot bug or if the collar worn is an sd issue and you need to report the bug there for him to fix another sd bug, i'll bet this is an issue there were no colored items for detection when he setup the script that attaches your slave collar and missed it during any update fixes since then

 

those 2 shouldn't have been worn together, a slave harness or corset would be fine with the collar, but not that harness

for now you need to unlock the harness with a chastity key or goto captured dreams and ask them to remove it, But the collar...

you'll have to use console codes to remove what's left of it...

 

edit: there's also the possibility that if this is an sd issue, removing the harness will allow sd to fix the slave collar

 

if you were "enslaved" you''ll need "master's key" to remove the collar, but judging by what cooper quoted there you've already used "master's key" to remove the inventory item while the harness was still locked on and it borked

[Sacremas]

Something like that, I forgot to turn off Deadly Drain so my master lasted through one blowjob before dying, I got the master key from him which removed a gag and some other items but the rd-harness and collar as well as piercings was not removed. Soon after I got the armbinders as well and CTDed when a bandit chief attacked me.

 

For now I've uninstalled DD and related mods as well as SD+, I'm keeping the profile and save and can go back to it. Player.removeallitems didn't work to remove either the collar or the harness, inv on me didn't show the collar's codes and removing the harness with console command didn't work either, it just reeequipped.

 

It's just too bugged for me to bother with currently to be honest, I wanted something to add to the game not take it over entirely.

[Coopervane]

Player.removeallitems didn't work to remove either the collar or the harness

 

Nor should it have.

 

DD gear is not a normal Skyrim armour, these things have a lot of code, quests and scripts attached to them, do not use console commands to mess around with it as you will horribly break things. If something has misfired, then give yourself a key or two via console and try to deal with it that way (but only if it's a regular item, if it's a quest item you should leave it alone and finish the attached quest), but do not try to force-remove them via console.

[Sacremas]

But shouldn't the smith be able to remove it then? I paid him 200 gold something like five times and he still didn't remove anything at all. I didn't have a quest other than the chasity belt quest I'd also had when CD put the harness on (and which ended when it was removed), and had no idea what kind of key to add to try out either.

[Coopervane]

But shouldn't the smith be able to remove it then? I paid him 200 gold something like five times and he still didn't remove anything at all. I didn't have a quest other than the chasity belt quest I'd also had when CD put the harness on (and which ended when it was removed), and had no idea what kind of key to add to try out either.

 

Uh no, that's not a part of the core DD mods, Blacksmiths won't remove anything but the Iron-yoke (not the ones distributed by Dcur mind, those use different code and i have no idea how those work).

 

If you're seeing anything different, then you've got another mod doing that, it's not part of the core DD mods. Do you have DD-Restrained installed by chance? If so, you should probably remove it ASAP, it hasen't been updated for ages and causes a lot of bugs as a result.

[Sacremas]

No, the following DD related mods are what I was using on that profile (wonders of Mod Organizer, can just swap back to it and the save is as I left it);

Devious Device Assets

Devious Device Expansion

Devious Device Intergration

Deviously Helpless 1.15d

Submit + DD + Follower Friendly

Devious Devices Expansion UNPB TSPB (uglykidcid conversion)

Deviously Cursed Loot

Aradia Devious Expansion

Captured Dreams v3.80 full

Captured Dreams - TS Fetish Wardrobe (uglykidcid)

 

As well as SD+ latest.

[r5e4w3q2]

SD+ may be where the blacksmith option is coming from, I am not sure though, have not used SD+ in a while.

v3.1.4 - 2015-03-06:

 

- Added: Blacksmith can now remove Devious Bras and Boots.

 

 

In my attempts SD+ did not play well with Cursed Loot, Deviously Helpless or Capture Dreams out of the box, taking a lot of messing with to keep them playing nice with each other.  Though, again, that was quite a while ago.

[CliftonJD]

SD+ may be where the blacksmith option is coming from, I am not sure though, have not used SD+ in a while.

v3.1.4 - 2015-03-06:

 

- Added: Blacksmith can now remove Devious Bras and Boots.

 

 

In my attempts SD+ did not play well with Cursed Loot, Deviously Helpless or Capture Dreams out of the box, taking a lot of messing with to keep them playing nice with each other.  Though, again, that was quite a while ago.

actually i'm inclined to agree

great potential there, but using dd to handle sd's restraints only works if its coded right and blindly locking an item onto an already locked slot is just 1 of the issues sd has had since it integrated dd

my biggest issue has been the spriggan infection

[CliftonJD]

 

Player.removeallitems didn't work to remove either the collar or the harness

 

Nor should it have.

 

DD gear is not a normal Skyrim armour, these things have a lot of code, quests and scripts attached to them, do not use console commands to mess around with it as you will horribly break things. If something has misfired, then give yourself a key or two via console and try to deal with it that way (but only if it's a regular item, if it's a quest item you should leave it alone and finish the attached quest), but do not try to force-remove them via console.

 

[CliftonJD]

 

 

 

would you be able to help with this issue posted on ddexpansion (seen you deal deal with this issue before, can't remember what console code you used)

 

 

Thanks for the responses.

 

I tried Removelallitems and it took everything except the DD items, they appear stuck to me. I'm not sure exaclty where the items came from, I only go ttwo messages about finding equipment and putting it on, once was in a boss chest at the end of a dungeon, another was on a bandit chief ,bandit chief put on the harness, pierced soulgem nipples (which levitate three inches from my breasts) and a collar which doesn't appear in my inventory and smiths have no idea how to remove. Previously I'd had the CD Ebonite harness and plugs on when making a delivery for CD, but those were taken off me afterwards. This harness is not called Ebonite, just RD-Harness. On the boss chest I got armbinders as well but I CTDed before I could ever try removing those.

For now I'm keeping that save and the installed mods on another backup profile and have made another profile without Devious to continue. If anyone can point out some way to get rid of those items a bit easier then I'll go back to those and play with Devious. Basically I'm looking for a bit of an "easy mode" where once out of enslavement from SD+ or the like I can get those damn things off without them preventing my sex with othe rmods.

 

Something was up with the harness as well, when it was equipped then on Showracemenu my face changed entirely, my eyes (Runic Eyes) were no longer available to be chosen and SG Hair, KS hair and Apachii har was all gone and only hairs I could choose was Ren hair. This means I can't go in there to change my breasts so the damn piercings won't float in the air while I'm wearing them. Upon uninstalling Devious and related mods so I didn't have the harness (was only way to get rid of it) Showracemenu showed all my hairs and eyes.

"bandit chief put on the harness, pierced soulgem nipples... and a collar which doesn't appear in my inventory"

the collar doesn't appear in inventory cuz its busted, that's a cursed loot bug you should let kimi know so she can fix the mod from doing it again

those 2 shouldn't have been worn together, a slave harness or corset would be fine with the collar, but not that harness

for now you need to unlock the harness with a chastity key or goto captured dreams and ask them to remove it, But the collar...

you'll have to use console codes to remove what's left of it...

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/35569-devious-devices-expansion-v121/page-24?do=findComment&comment=1110919

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/35569-devious-devices-expansion-v121/page-24?do=findComment&comment=1110919

 

If moving everything to a container didn't work and scripts didn't either you can try this:

1- Remove all locking items you can

2- Move as much as you can into a container (makes later steps easier)

3- Open the console, select your character and enter 'showinventory'

4- Look for items with no name that show as worn (the items ending in 040f0c is the device hider and can be ignored)

5- Remove the unnamed items one by one using  RemoveItem <ID from inventory> 1

 

This works for any broken item but if you remove an item with a quest attached to it you need to put it back on properly or that quest won't end correctly.

 

 

 

But shouldn't the smith be able to remove it then? I paid him 200 gold something like five times and he still didn't remove anything at all. I didn't have a quest other than the chasity belt quest I'd also had when CD put the harness on (and which ended when it was removed), and had no idea what kind of key to add to try out either.

use the chastity key to remove the harness then follow vel's instructions for the collar, if the harness is non-responsive you'll need that method for it as well

[Sacremas]

Thanks for the responses.

 

Unfortunately I installed DD mainly due to the SD requirement, I'm not that into slavery myself (well not on this side at least, now if I could put these on NPCs...) so if SD is that borked with the DD intergration I think I'm going with my original plan of dumping all related mods.

 

I did try inv on myself, found the harness and used player.removeitem on the harness, but each time I got an equip sound and it never left. I never found the collar, the only place it showed up was in the Smith's menu as a dialogue choice for asking him to remove it, but he never could. That's just too many bugs for something I'm only tangentially interested in to let it dominate my game. I might check back in a year or so when DD has perhaps been intergrated more with quests that I'm interested in.

 

Thanks everyone for the responses, it's greatly appreciated.

[gm207]

Hello eveyone, Im trying to download devious devices expansion, but for some reason its required mods are not downloadable anymore so I cant use it, any ideas?

[blueballbob]

Don't really expect anyone to know. But is there an issue with the PerkusMaximus patcher and this mod? Everytime I patch with this mod enabled in MO, patchusmaximus bails out. I looked at the asynchronous log and it looked like it was trying to do a spell or enchant off a ebony soulgem butt plug before the patcher fails.

 

I'll try and get a log copy next time I run it. Just wonder if any ones able to patch fine with this enabled.

[CliftonJD]

Thanks for the responses.

 

Unfortunately I installed DD mainly due to the SD requirement, I'm not that into slavery myself (well not on this side at least, now if I could put these on NPCs...) so if SD is that borked with the DD intergration I think I'm going with my original plan of dumping all related mods.

 

I did try inv on myself, found the harness and used player.removeitem on the harness, but each time I got an equip sound and it never left. I never found the collar, the only place it showed up was in the Smith's menu as a dialogue choice for asking him to remove it, but he never could. That's just too many bugs for something I'm only tangentially interested in to let it dominate my game. I might check back in a year or so when DD has perhaps been intergrated more with quests that I'm interested in.

 

Thanks everyone for the responses, it's greatly appreciated.

the harness couldn't be removed by console cause that wasn't broken, only the collar was, you need the chastity key to remove the harness as we've said...

dd and sd worked much better than this as independant mods, you've added cursed loot to that mix to worsen your situation

without having configured cursed loot for keys you'll need to run to the captured dreams shop and ask for them to help you out of the harness, as for the blacksmiths responses to your plight he enjoys seeing you this way, was only intended by dd to respond to high security items so sd*s changes to blacksmith could be a bit wonky like the rest of sd's handling for dd

once that's handled you should be able to get access to the cursed loot config to set it for key drops

save from there and install older sd from before dd integrated and enjoy the game again

...once you have that installed you can decide if dd is still not to you're liking and remove it without losing sd

SDPlus203.zip