YumiChan19 Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Are you going to add any more content with your player and madanach? I loved the idea behind the mod and would love to see more quests for madanach and expanding the forsworn. I mean you are his property and could be used in a wide variety of ways from spying to assassinations to being offered sexually to potential allies or as a diversion to allow his men to sneak through areas they normally couldn't.
circ Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 I can't move at all. No interaction with E, no movement, no jumping, sneak, inventory, powers, TAB and so on. Earlier I could use the hotkey for Fill Her Up, but after getting emptied, that does nothing now either. Only things that work are mouse for camera rotation and ESC for menu. Just a generic bug, that I don't remember really seeing before, or related to Devious Cidhna?
stobor Posted January 18, 2015 Author Posted January 18, 2015 Without at least a hint about what the circumstances are, you're asking for a blind guess. With that said, Devious Cidhna does not generally disable controls, so you're probably barking up the wrong tree.
circ Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 I was banging whoever it is that wants the skooma, engagement ended and turned out I couldn't move. Possible I was in third person camera mode and it's one of those camera bugs. Oh well.
stobor Posted January 18, 2015 Author Posted January 18, 2015 So, Grisvar the Unlucky. Nope, nothing there that would disable controls. So it is probably just Skyrim being its usual flaky self.
circ Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 Ya. Think it may have been related to FHU starting an ejection animation and camera being in free mode. Anyway I managed to finish it. It's been a while since I tried the vanilla version of the quest, and I didn't remember that there was no notice of being able to backstab Madanach, or I just missed that part. But well it's one of the buggiest quests in the game. I thought the mine portion could have used a little more content, as as it is, it's the vanilla quest with fucking thrown in, in simple terms. Good dialogue though, and really enhanced by Apropos, which I wasn't really expecting. Karthspire was pretty short, but maybe I got out of the armbinder too fast, and then everyone went aggro. Also despite wearing a disguise, everyone outside went aggro too so I just skipped on out of there. Last portion, I guess, didn't show up as a quest in the journal and didn't do anything really. Skyrim started to wigg out at that point and required VC redist repairing. Anyway, Garvey just banged me once with some help and then Thonar or whatever when I returned didn't have any new dialogue. And he also seemed to be confused and said something about my milk, which was weird as I don't have Milk Mod installed. Maybe that mod's required to have it work right? Kinda wish I had gone with Madanach so I could have tried out this pirate thing, but meh, screw Forsworn. Oh yeah. Apparently I picked up quite a rep in Markarth now too.
toynbeeidea Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 Finally tried this mod out. It was pretty awesome. My only complaint is that the process of getting the shiv was a little too grindy. Haven't tried the post-quest content yet.
atznk1ller Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 how did you all manage to start the follow up quests? i cant talk to madanach after i got out because he is fighting all the time but when i come back later i cannot find him anymore or he is still fighting :/
PubliusNV Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 how did you all manage to start the follow up quests? i cant talk to madanach after i got out because he is fighting all the time but when i come back later i cannot find him anymore or he is still fighting :/ Did you follow him to Druadach Redoubt? That's where he goes after escaping.
WaterRabbit Posted January 22, 2015 Posted January 22, 2015 Finally tried this mod out. It was pretty awesome. My only complaint is that the process of getting the shiv was a little too grindy. Haven't tried the post-quest content yet. You can still pickpocket the shiv and skooma to avoid the grind if you desire.
Lyman the Lunatic Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Just decided to check this mod out, I was never a devious device fan. I tried on a save where both Thornar & Madenach is dead, so I guess the only option is to go for the pirate price. So I see that if my char. took too long, she'll be sold off to a pirate somewhere. So I deliberately make my char. took too long. I even got Helpless to see how it will work. When I got there, I remember why I don't use Helpless anymore. So my char. managed to remove all the devices in the first 3 minutes through spells. I can see that the quest dialogue didn't put to account if my char. is not gagged. So I just make my char. get boned by the corsairs, wondering how "long" before my char. will be sold off. First off, Dainty Sload is my favorite place for testing SD so I'm glad you chose Dainty Sload. Why don't more modders use ships for their slavery mods? Darkwind did it but Darkwind is way too consent. So I read the forum replies & I see many people said the gag is supposed to be on so I console them back & shove it in her mouth. I saw the new dialogues, she woke up at the Orphan's Tear. Here comes the part where I don't use Helpless anymore. After she's raped by the only male bandit there, nothing else happened, all the bandits just walking around, passing her by as if she's not there. She can't even interact with anybody & she doesn't even have a gag on. So I make her sleep on a bed roll just to see will there be anything else happen to her under her new master & the game freezes. I'd say, why not make the Dainty Sload door a "requires key" level? The char. I was playing got plenty of lockpicks on her, after she got her armbinders off, I could've make her unlock the door & leg it. If not, why not remove the lockpicks as well? So my char. will have a lot harder time trying to get out? Like I said, the only reason she took "too long" is because I made her, she could've run off in under 5 minutes. However, that doesn't mean I hate Pirate Prize or the mod, I like the Pirate Prize & I'd like to try the other questlines as well. I guess I have to try on other save because everybody died in this save.
Lantera Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I was banging whoever it is that wants the skooma, engagement ended and turned out I couldn't move. Possible I was in third person camera mode and it's one of those camera bugs. Oh well. This happened in my game yesterday as well. I have a feeling it *might* have something to do with the two of them standing there, both trying to trigger something from you which goes haywire after the first encounter starts a scene. I didn't check Papyrus afterwards to see if there's anything in there, since I'm used to SexLab having a flawed encounter every now and then. I've had this behavior several times before in other mods, usually when two encounters are trying to happen around the same time.
Slorm Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I was banging whoever it is that wants the skooma, engagement ended and turned out I couldn't move. Possible I was in third person camera mode and it's one of those camera bugs. Oh well. This happened in my game yesterday as well. I have a feeling it *might* have something to do with the two of them standing there, both trying to trigger something from you which goes haywire after the first encounter starts a scene. I didn't check Papyrus afterwards to see if there's anything in there, since I'm used to SexLab having a flawed encounter every now and then. I've had this behavior several times before in other mods, usually when two encounters are trying to happen around the same time. When you're wearing a blindfold you can't move in third person only look around. You need to be in first person mode to move
Lantera Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 I was banging whoever it is that wants the skooma, engagement ended and turned out I couldn't move. Possible I was in third person camera mode and it's one of those camera bugs. Oh well. This happened in my game yesterday as well. I have a feeling it *might* have something to do with the two of them standing there, both trying to trigger something from you which goes haywire after the first encounter starts a scene. I didn't check Papyrus afterwards to see if there's anything in there, since I'm used to SexLab having a flawed encounter every now and then. I've had this behavior several times before in other mods, usually when two encounters are trying to happen around the same time. When you're wearing a blindfold you can't move in third person only look around. You need to be in first person mode to move The camera perspective was stuck. Scroll wheel didn't work, F (supposedly the hotkey to switch to first person view) also didn't work. Mouse movement was fine (I could look around, and the camera would rotate around me) but changing zoom levels or switching to first person view was a no-go. Talking to someone who was standing in front of me (by pressing E) didn't work either, although I'm not sure whether you're supposed to be able to when you're in third person mode with a blindfold on. And for what it's worth, toggling to free cam and back and the restore options in ZAZ and DA also didn't change the zoom lock. It was kinda baffling, but haven't been able to reproduce it reliably enough to know what's causing it. No big deal in any case!
Slorm Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 The camera perspective was stuck. Scroll wheel didn't work, F (supposedly the hotkey to switch to first person view) also didn't work. Mouse movement was fine (I could look around, and the camera would rotate around me) but changing zoom levels or switching to first person view was a no-go. Talking to someone who was standing in front of me (by pressing E) didn't work either, although I'm not sure whether you're supposed to be able to when you're in third person mode with a blindfold on. And for what it's worth, toggling to free cam and back and the restore options in ZAZ and DA also didn't change the zoom lock. It was kinda baffling, but haven't been able to reproduce it reliably enough to know what's causing it. No big deal in any case! Ahh that's something different. I have seen something similar but only in the first scene with Borkul which I found was cured by hitting CR during the dialogue, I've never had that issue later on in the mod. Here's a link to the issue I had (with the fix) but I doubt if it will help you much as my issue seemed to be linked to the Fuz Ro Doh dialogue on screen http://www.loverslab.com/topic/31189-devious-cidhna-nov-15-2014/?p=813006 One other question, are you using Estrus for Skyrim as that glitches the camera quite badly (though there is a workaround)
Molevalence Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I just tried this out. I did the event where you escape with the Forsworn and then I got caught by pirates. That is by far my favorite of the whole questline I have done so far. I was able to escape in my first day (Thankfully my pickpocket skill was 79 with Keymaster Perk ) but the way you can make your character be totally submissive begging to be used made the mod for me. I am actually going to wait for the ship to sail and see what happens. This is probably the closest immersion of a submissive character being broken and trained (For least amount of bugs) My dream mod is one day your character can literally be broken, and when that happens you lose your ability as Dragonborn since you lost your mind. The game ends and when you make a new character you can rescue your previous character where he/she was last captured and recruit him/her as a follower. Then you can have a choice to keep him/her as a pet and use his/her for currency (Sell his/her body for extra gold) or rebuild his/her mind and turn them into a regular follower. Dreams... Sorry for rambling but this mod is great. I hope more is added!
Ashra XIII Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 So I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm getting a bit of crashiness, and it seems to be more than just the regular Skyrim + Sexlab wackiness. I first started seeing it with regularity during the final scene of Angrim's Apprentice, where he summons the Dremora Emissary... I'd either get a straight CTD as the sex act started, or the Visual C++ error. After a few retries, I finally got it to work and moved on. Now I'm getting the same problem in Devious Cidhna, after escaping the mines and going to work for Thonor. I got to the Forsworn cave, and everything worked fine at first until I got to what I think was the last sex act (basically repaying the lady Forsworn for removing my Armbinder after getting all the armor pieces), at which point I got the Visual C++ error and realized I hadn't saved since entering the cave. Doh. After re-loading, I couldn't get past the first act (trying to get boots) for several tries, until finally it worked only to crash on the second act. The only thing I have to go on (since there are no errors that I can really see in the log, only that Sexlab is making a scene) is the fact that I never crashed other than with these two mods; my char has been a very busy girl with the Sexlab College of Winterhold, as well as DD Cursed Loot and SD+, and never have I had a crash. So I'm just kinda wondering if it has something to do with the way these mods initiate Sexlab while also trying to accomplish something else (hand out an armor piece and update a quest, for example). I'm also kinda stuck in this Forsworn cave, but I think I should be able to bust out of the Armbinder and fight my way out if all else fails.
stobor Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 Well, as I've said before, I don't get these crashes. Some theories, backed up by anecdotal evidence from people who do: One, they may be connected with having other things going on while SexLab is doing setup: dialogue lines (the Dremora in Angrim's last scene), adding gear (Karthspire), etc. If that's the case, adding some artificial delays might sort it out - but there's no way for me to really test that idea. Two, they may be connected to having another mod try to start something at just the wrong moment in an already heavily scripted scene. For example, I've had SD+ (or more accurately, SL Dialogues) try to start something with Angrim during the Dremora scene - but in my case, it didn't crash. If this is the case, there's a slim chance that it would leave evidence in the Papyrus log, e.g. that two things were attempted at more or less the same time. And then there's the third theory - that this comes down to which version each of us has of some core software, like the Visual C++ runtime library. Maybe mine's older, and there's a bug in newer versions. Maybe the reverse. One thing that it probably isn't: something about the way I initiate SexLab animations. The API calls are the same in Karthspire and Cidhna Mine - and you don't report any crashes in the latter. Edit: I should amend that slightly - I have seen the Dremora scene crash on me three times in a row, a couple of weeks back while testing the update. But I just played through Angrim and Cidhna and the Dainty Sload for real (not with a test character), and had no crashes whatsoever. So for me at least, they seem to occur in waves (but very rarely).
stobor Posted February 8, 2015 Author Posted February 8, 2015 As for getting out of Karthspire: you probably don't even need to fight your way out. Running really fast usually works for me. The Forsworn give up the chase fairly quickly.
Molevalence Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Why run? If you stay you get a souvenir Forsworn Outfit. As for getting out of Karthspire: you probably don't even need to fight your way out. Running really fast usually works for me. The Forsworn give up the chase fairly quickly.
Puupsfred Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 So I guess this mod is not intended for male PCs? If I would play with one however, would it develop into a butty man's close quarter melee simulation?
Molevalence Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 It can if you use Devious Devices for Men I think. Not 100% on that though. So I guess this mod is not intended for male PCs? If I would play with one however, would it develop into a butty man's close quarter melee simulation?
Ashra XIII Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Well, as I've said before, I don't get these crashes. Some theories, backed up by anecdotal evidence from people who do: One, they may be connected with having other things going on while SexLab is doing setup: dialogue lines (the Dremora in Angrim's last scene), adding gear (Karthspire), etc. If that's the case, adding some artificial delays might sort it out - but there's no way for me to really test that idea. Two, they may be connected to having another mod try to start something at just the wrong moment in an already heavily scripted scene. For example, I've had SD+ (or more accurately, SL Dialogues) try to start something with Angrim during the Dremora scene - but in my case, it didn't crash. If this is the case, there's a slim chance that it would leave evidence in the Papyrus log, e.g. that two things were attempted at more or less the same time. And then there's the third theory - that this comes down to which version each of us has of some core software, like the Visual C++ runtime library. Maybe mine's older, and there's a bug in newer versions. Maybe the reverse. One thing that it probably isn't: something about the way I initiate SexLab animations. The API calls are the same in Karthspire and Cidhna Mine - and you don't report any crashes in the latter. Edit: I should amend that slightly - I have seen the Dremora scene crash on me three times in a row, a couple of weeks back while testing the update. But I just played through Angrim and Cidhna and the Dainty Sload for real (not with a test character), and had no crashes whatsoever. So for me at least, they seem to occur in waves (but very rarely). I guess I shouldn't try to speculate on what might actually be causing the crashes, since I'm in no way qualified to do so. All I have to go on (as I said) is that I get the crashes with a couple of your mods, but that of course doesn't mean those mods are causing the issue, as it could be some other mod which just happens to interfere. I have tried it multiple, multiple times though, with nothing else really going on, and I will say in this case that I actually didn't have any sex inside Cidhna Mine that was initiated by this mod... after getting busted, I talked to a couple people, then to Borkul the Beast, and used SL Solutions to get by him and into Madanach's chamber. I then murdered him and his harlot, took the key and escaped. In hindsight, this robbed me of the chance to see if I would have problems elsewhere, but I didn't realize at the time that I'd be dealing with this. It's just a bit of a bummer, getting stuck with crashes and not being able to work it out. Hopefully I can escape Karthspire and everything else will remain stable as it has so far.
jfraser Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 Well, as I've said before, I don't get these crashes. Some theories, backed up by anecdotal evidence from people who do: One, they may be connected with having other things going on while SexLab is doing setup: dialogue lines (the Dremora in Angrim's last scene), adding gear (Karthspire), etc. If that's the case, adding some artificial delays might sort it out - but there's no way for me to really test that idea. Two, they may be connected to having another mod try to start something at just the wrong moment in an already heavily scripted scene. For example, I've had SD+ (or more accurately, SL Dialogues) try to start something with Angrim during the Dremora scene - but in my case, it didn't crash. If this is the case, there's a slim chance that it would leave evidence in the Papyrus log, e.g. that two things were attempted at more or less the same time. And then there's the third theory - that this comes down to which version each of us has of some core software, like the Visual C++ runtime library. Maybe mine's older, and there's a bug in newer versions. Maybe the reverse. One thing that it probably isn't: something about the way I initiate SexLab animations. The API calls are the same in Karthspire and Cidhna Mine - and you don't report any crashes in the latter. Edit: I should amend that slightly - I have seen the Dremora scene crash on me three times in a row, a couple of weeks back while testing the update. But I just played through Angrim and Cidhna and the Dainty Sload for real (not with a test character), and had no crashes whatsoever. So for me at least, they seem to occur in waves (but very rarely). I guess I shouldn't try to speculate on what might actually be causing the crashes, since I'm in no way qualified to do so. All I have to go on (as I said) is that I get the crashes with a couple of your mods, but that of course doesn't mean those mods are causing the issue, as it could be some other mod which just happens to interfere. I have tried it multiple, multiple times though, with nothing else really going on, and I will say in this case that I actually didn't have any sex inside Cidhna Mine that was initiated by this mod... after getting busted, I talked to a couple people, then to Borkul the Beast, and used SL Solutions to get by him and into Madanach's chamber. I then murdered him and his harlot, took the key and escaped. In hindsight, this robbed me of the chance to see if I would have problems elsewhere, but I didn't realize at the time that I'd be dealing with this. It's just a bit of a bummer, getting stuck with crashes and not being able to work it out. Hopefully I can escape Karthspire and everything else will remain stable as it has so far. Might just be a corrupted save, as skyrim likes to have from time to time.
Ashra XIII Posted February 8, 2015 Posted February 8, 2015 My character has made it to level 20, which is pretty unprecedented for me, and with all these mods it's entirely possible there could be some corruption, hehe. An update, however: I ended up escaping the armbinder and then just fighting my way out, and after returning to Thonor he sent me on one more job to procure the loyalty of Garvey. It wasn't an official quest, but I did get the dialogue option for him and all, and there was no crashing during sexytimes. Also did lots more stuff after that, and once more crashing has disappeared. Soooo yeah, I dunno what the problem was, but I'm glad it remained pretty limited to certain areas and that my game remains for the most part stable.
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