Estrus Chaurus+

[andykimo123]

So... this question might be answered previously, but I can't really find one.

 

I got Chaurus Breeder working.  The problem is, there is no quest line or anything showing up to tell me how to cure it.  I use removespell a7019121 to get rid off the effect.  It successfully dismissed the effect, but the breeder is still on my character's back. 

 

I'm using EC with DDI patch/Spider/Dwemer/parasite.

 

Please give me a hand.  Thanks.

[ercramer69]

On 11/2/2018 at 10:43 AM, Bane Master said:

Is this a new game  - or have there been mod/body changes since it was started

Well like I said I'm not having any problem but I haven't had a game last more then a few days before starting a new one as I keep testing things and deciding I do or don't like them and remove if I don't.  So in my case it is a new game.  When I build everything in Bodyslide/Outfit Studio I always check the build morphs box not sure if that makes a difference.

[ercramer69]

On 11/3/2018 at 11:20 PM, andykimo123 said:

So... this question might be answered previously, but I can't really find one.

 

I got Chaurus Breeder working.  The problem is, there is no quest line or anything showing up to tell me how to cure it.  I use removespell a7019121 to get rid off the effect.  It successfully dismissed the effect, but the breeder is still on my character's back. 

 

I'm using EC with DDI patch/Spider/Dwemer/parasite.

 

Please give me a hand.  Thanks.

I think the Breeder is from Sexlab Parasites (could be wrong, as I don't use it) but its not from EC+. 

[Bane Master]

5 hours ago, ercramer69 said:

I think the Breeder is from Sexlab Parasites (could be wrong, as I don't use it) but its not from EC+. 

It's not from EC+

[andykimo123]

2 hours ago, Bane Master said:

It's not from EC+

Thanks for the reply.

 

I uninstalled the mods one by one and found that only if I uninstalled EC+, the breeder disappeared.  Uninstalling Sexlab Parasite, on the contrary, doesn't help.

 

Here's a picture for the breeder on my character's back.  I thought this is the one from Estrus Chaurus?

[andykimo123]

12 hours ago, Bane Master said:

It's not from EC+

Sorry, I think I got your meaning now.  So basically SP would call EC+ stuff to make a breeder on the host.  But the spell for add/remove the breeder is from EC+.

What I should do is go find a command in SP to remove that breeder instead.

[Bane Master]

It's hard to tell from the picture but if that could a part used in the tentacle animation - if so it should have been removed when the animation finished but it can occasionally glitch if the user skips animation stages.

 

If that is what has happened (can't be certain) then it is an armor item not a spell effect so dumping your gear into a container and then using the console command removeallitems on your toon will get rid of it...

[andykimo123]

On 11/8/2018 at 2:10 PM, Bane Master said:

It's hard to tell from the picture but if that could a part used in the tentacle animation - if so it should have been removed when the animation finished but it can occasionally glitch if the user skips animation stages.

 

If that is what has happened (can't be certain) then it is an armor item not a spell effect so dumping your gear into a container and then using the console command removeallitems on your toon will get rid of it...

Thanks for the reply.   However, I decide to start a new save with SL parasite.  If this glitch happens again, I'll give this a shot.

[Nymra]

Hey,

I cannot get the mod to register the Sexlab Animations. I can click "Register" and close menues, but nothing will happen then. 

I m using the latest Estrus Version (not 1,60 but 2.3). Could this be a problem? 
 

Or did I just forget to register anything anywhere? Also, Estrus mod is also activated, since I want to use that independently.

 

 

EDIT: I also use Estrus Spider and all it does is triggering masturbation animations now

 

[donttouchmethere]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

I m using the latest Estrus Version (not 1,60 but 2.3). Could this be a problem? 

yes thats the problem

EstrusForSkyrim V1.60r1 is the last one that works without issues

in combination with Bane's Estrus Chaurus+ and Edd's Spider + Edd's Dwemer

[Nymra]

33 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

yes thats the problem

EstrusForSkyrim V1.60r1 is the last one that works without issues

in combination with Bane's Estrus Chaurus+ and Edd's Spider + Edd's Dwemer

darn... 
well, seems I have to get back to that from zero then

In another thread it was pointed out that "downgrading" estrus back to 1,60 might only work on a new game

 

[donttouchmethere]

37 minutes ago, Nymra said:

In another thread it was pointed out that "downgrading" estrus back to 1,60 might only work on a new game

never tried that myself, sounds dangerous!

[djahdjah]

Hi,

 

I have a curious bug, I play with Estrus and add-ons (spiders/dwemers).

 

Add-ons work great but not estrus, my char and my followers are never impregnated with chaurus.

Anybody has already had the problem?

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

never tried that myself, sounds dangerous!

I cirumvented that by toggling all masturbation animation but tentacle by nanoozo whatever and 2 furo tubs.... so now spider spitting trigger tubs and tentacles, just not estrus lol.
good enough for this time

[PikaKen]

On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 10:43 PM, Bane Master said:

Is this a new game  - or have there been mod/body changes since it was started

My apologies for such a late late reply, but this happened on a new game. Another note is that the spider addon as well as the dwemer addon however both worked fine!

[HerChianti]

@Bane Master I thought EC+ also made it so normal vaginal sex with chaurus monsters triggered the chaurus parasites pregnancy. I recall (in one of my many plathroughs like a year or two ago I think) that whenever I had sex with a chaurus, at the end of the whole thing (where the 'came inside you' proc happens) I used to get the glowy effect (infestation successful) on my character like the one you get if you were attacked by tentacles instead.

But now when I have sex with chaurus, the infestation doesn't happen at the end, it's just regular sex. Did any of the updates on EC+ remove that or maybe it's something that should work but it's not because of something on my mod setup?

 

EDIT: I did some further testing by trying vaginal sex with the most common chaurus types so maybe this can help identify the problem.

 

 

00023A8F Chaurus Reaper = Did not let me have sex with, couldn't trigger any animation. I couldn't even surrender (SexLab Defeat) to it, said that "You can't surrender to this enemy", WTF? ?

000A5600 Normal Chaurus = Normal vaginal sex, didn't trigger parasite impregnation at the end.

000D0872 Another (Normal?) Chaurus = Same as above, didn't impregnate.

020029A1 Chaurus Hunter Fledgling =  Worked as intended to my suprise since I hardly ever end up having sex with these. At the end of the animation I got the impregnation effect and with Beeing Female I confirmed that I was indeed impregnated with chaurus.

02005204 Chaurus Hunter = Same as above, worked perfectly.

 

So this means that the Dawnguard chaurus work but not the vanilla ones? I have no idea honestly, but it's annoying because the hunters are my least favourite chaurus.

 

And just to clarify once more, I'm talking about normal vaginal sex here. Tentacle attacks work flawlessly ?

[Bane Master]

1 hour ago, HerChianti said:

So this means that the Dawnguard chaurus work but not the vanilla ones?

They should all work if a female actor has vaginal sex with them  - I'll take a look and see if I can spot a problem

[Xiaron]

22 hours ago, Bane Master said:

They should all work if a female actor has vaginal sex with them  - I'll take a look and see if I can spot a problem

I am, oddly enough, suddenly having a similar issue. EC+ was working fine, then I started a new game. Now while the tentacles work as expected, sex doesn't seem to be triggering impregnation correctly. I'm wondering if it's an animation/tags issue, but I have no idea how to go about testing that, let alone fixing it.

 

Edit: I'm still not entirely sure what the issue was, but I managed to get it working. Started a new game, with EC+ in the load order. Didn't save and reload to start EC+ until after all other mods were active and set how I wanted. Loaded EC+ and it seems to be working. (Also loaded ES and ED after logging all the way out and adding them at end of the load order. All three are working now, where none did before.)

[Nazzzgul666]

I'm really not sure but i hope it might point towards the right direction instead of the void: Could it be possible that (one of) the last MNC updates changed chaurus so EC+ doesn't recognize them anymore?

I didn't have EC+ installed in a while, all my recent characters where very non-adventurers and avoided anything that looked like a dungeon, so there was no chance to have any encounters anyways, i can't tell when it was working last time.

[Teddar]

I dont know if this is something that is already known, but i discovered something when i decided to re-install EC+ today. I usually run with the XPSME .esp disabled as i read that its a bit of a resource hog and once installed and FNIS is run, the .esp isnt required if you dont want alternative weapon placements. However, this mod doesnt just need the the skeleton to be installed, it is also checking for the XPSME .esp and the game CTD's without it. Is that intended? Yes i know that the OP mentions that XPSME skeleton is required, but why the .esp as well?

[HerChianti]

21 hours ago, Xiaron said:

Edit: I'm still not entirely sure what the issue was, but I managed to get it working. Started a new game, with EC+ in the load order. Didn't save and reload to start EC+ until after all other mods were active and set how I wanted. Loaded EC+ and it seems to be working. (Also loaded ES and ED after logging all the way out and adding them at end of the load order. All three are working now, where none did before.)

I started a new game too since I needed to remove some mods and wanted to start fresh out of curiosity to see if EC+ would work properly but no, same problem persisted even after a starting over.

 

I really want this to work since I don't want to depend all the time on the tentacle attack for the chaurus impregnation ?. I really haven't changed my mods since earlier in the year when this feature was working perfectly, so...

 

These are the only SexLab mods I have.

[Xiaron]

2 hours ago, HerChianti said:

I started a new game too since I needed to remove some mods and wanted to start fresh out of curiosity to see if EC+ would work properly but no, same problem persisted even after a starting over.

 

I really want this to work since I don't want to depend all the time on the tentacle attack for the chaurus impregnation ?. I really haven't changed my mods since earlier in the year when this feature was working perfectly, so...

 

 

These are the only SexLab mods I have.

Did you make sure to set up your other mods before reloading to set up EC+? A quick test seemed to show that if EC+ tries to install before all the frameworks are loaded and working, something doesn't quite click right. 

[HerChianti]

On 11/28/2018 at 4:15 PM, Xiaron said:

Did you make sure to set up your other mods before reloading to set up EC+? A quick test seemed to show that if EC+ tries to install before all the frameworks are loaded and working, something doesn't quite click right. 

Yeah no, it doesn't work. And I haven't done things any differently than all the other times in the past where it did work.

 

Perhaps you could be a bit more specific as to how you managed to make it work? Because I always loaded and set up EC+ before anything else anyway. What's your mod setup? What versions of the mods are you running? In what order? Maybe one of the mods is screwing everything up and unless we compare setups we'll be stuck guessing.

 

2 days later edit: Tried different load orders for EC+, tried removing other mods that MIGHT-possibly-maybe be interfering with the impregnation thing? I don't know I'm out of options, nothing. Normal chaurus mobs do NOT impregnate after sex. I'm now 100% positive it's not my fault. I've restarted the game over 20 times now to test different things just to make it work and I got nothing. This is awful because I remember that even Chaurus created by other mods (like SexLab Parasites' Chaurus Stud) used to impregnate the character after vaginal sex. That means that EC+ detected whatever monster that was tagged as chaurus in the chaurus faction and gave it the impregnation properties regardless if it was vanilla or modded, but now it won't even give it to the vanilla ones ?

[Bane Master]

A new version of EC+ has been released...

Estrus Chaurus Version 4.35 (01/12/2018)

V4.35

• Fixed a bug that was preventing impregnation from functioning correctly
• Added a ModEvent to give authors access to EC's birth mechanic

[Bane Master]

On 11/27/2018 at 7:39 PM, Nazzzgul666 said:

I'm really not sure but i hope it might point towards the right direction instead of the void: Could it be possible that (one of) the last MNC updates changed chaurus so EC+ doesn't recognize them anymore?

Turns out that Sexlab's PregnancyRisk function was returning False when I would have expected True - I have changed to an alternative method of detecting vaginal sex and that seems to have fixed the problem.