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Daiemonic

By Daiemonic,
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Jerbsinator

Jerbsinator

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It seems to me you have a coexistence of 2 hdt .xml files in skse/plugins folder:

hdt.xml and defaultbbp.xml

you should delete hdt.xml, it belongs to an older version and conflict with defaultbbp.xml.

Also, I think you dont have linked correctly the defaultbbp.xml in your mesh. It could be linked to that old hdt.xml wich wont work because hdt .dll version is newer.

Just my 2 cents :)

 

 

Thank you I will try this. I do know that I had a hdt.xml in there so maybe that was the cause. Thanks.

charlievoviii

charlievoviii

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the breast is like two water melons on springs recorded at 1000 frames and slowmo.  no thanks

 

If you are talking about the .gifs... thats my main char with bodyslide meshes configured to my tastes.

You can use whatever meshes you want, with big or small breast, but we arent here to discuss that.

 

The frame rate of the .gif... you dont have to worry about this, its objective is to show the difference in collision between hands and breasts.

 

 

no, im talking all the video demo on the main page.

Daiemonic

Daiemonic

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the breast is like two water melons on springs recorded at 1000 frames and slowmo. no thanks

If you are talking about the .gifs... thats my main char with bodyslide meshes configured to my tastes.

You can use whatever meshes you want, with big or small breast, but we arent here to discuss that.

 

The frame rate of the .gif... you dont have to worry about this, its objective is to show the difference in collision between hands and breasts.

no, im talking all the video demo on the main page.
About the breasts appearance:

Thats my char, and its appearance depends on the body meshes used and your tastes if you modify it on bodyslide, you can use the meshes you want.

We arent here to discuss my char appearance.

 

About the physics:

I have uploaded a version with less bounce and I gave clear and basic instructions to reduce bounce to your tastes here in this topic.

charlievoviii

charlievoviii

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the breast is like two water melons on springs recorded at 1000 frames and slowmo. no thanks

If you are talking about the .gifs... thats my main char with bodyslide meshes configured to my tastes.

You can use whatever meshes you want, with big or small breast, but we arent here to discuss that.

 

The frame rate of the .gif... you dont have to worry about this, its objective is to show the difference in collision between hands and breasts.

no, im talking all the video demo on the main page.
About the breasts appearance:

Thats my char, and its appearance depends on the body meshes used and your tastes if you modify it on bodyslide, you can use the meshes you want.

We arent here to discuss my char appearance.

 

About the physics:

I have uploaded a version with less bounce and I gave clear and basic instructions to reduce bounce to your tastes here in this topic.

 

 

okie. thank you.  I will give it a try and see how it goes.

Stuffy

Stuffy

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It seems to me you have a coexistence of 2 hdt .xml files in skse/plugins folder:

hdt.xml and defaultbbp.xml

you should delete hdt.xml, it belongs to an older version and conflict with defaultbbp.xml.

Also, I think you dont have linked correctly the defaultbbp.xml in your mesh. It could be linked to that old hdt.xml wich wont work because hdt .dll version is newer.

Just my 2 cents :)

 

 

Thank you I will try this. I do know that I had a hdt.xml in there so maybe that was the cause. Thanks.

 

 

I'm having the exact same problem at the moment. Reverting back to my old hdt files somewhat fixes it again, execpt I have the "flat-boobs" bug now.

pclp2014

pclp2014

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I have a question: your HDT .xml could not use with Havok Breast Physics? . It not compatiable but your .xml so cool.

 

this is log attachicon.gifhdtPhysicsExtensions.log

 

 

INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

WARNING: Cannot bind bone : 26134b00 NPC PreBelly - bone doesn't exist

ERROR: Illegal hkx file : 26134b00 NPC PreBelly - Fixed/Keyframed body without binding!

 

 

 

You need a skeleton/body with NPC PreBelly.

 

 

 

Havok Breast Physics and xml works correct.

Stuffy

Stuffy

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I have a question: your HDT .xml could not use with Havok Breast Physics? . It not compatiable but your .xml so cool.

 

this is log attachicon.gifhdtPhysicsExtensions.log

 

 

INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

WARNING: Cannot bind bone : 26134b00 NPC PreBelly - bone doesn't exist

ERROR: Illegal hkx file : 26134b00 NPC PreBelly - Fixed/Keyframed body without binding!

 

 

 

You need a skeleton/body with NPC PreBelly.

 

 

 

Havok Breast Physics and xml works correct.

 

 

That seems to be my problem as well. But where do you get a skeleton with npc prebelly? XPS32 Maxium Skeleton, which I have installed, doesnt seem to have it.

 

EDIT: I found the problem and the solution: Reinstall your skeleton. If you have the xps32 max one, theres an option near the end that lets you enable extra hdt skeleton nodes. Tick that option ( it was unticked for me ) and voila, it works!

Daiemonic

Daiemonic

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@Daiemonic: I don't know if you are still following this thread, I just wanted to say a freakin' big THANK YOU for your efforts :D  I've been using the 'default' bounce settings so far, and an older version of HDT PE. Now I've switched to your files and it's a mind-blowing difference, really! Awesome job right there.

 

I do have one request, though. The way I understand it is that Belly vs. SOS distortion only works in Male & Female interactions, right? Is there a way to extend this to work on F/F as well? There is a quite frequently used SOS strap-on, after all. I would definitly like to have this...

 

I have been messing with SOS - Equipable Schlong from B3lisario, I dont know if you guys already knows it, but this equipable schlong mantains all the capabilities from SOS, it has the same genital rigidbodies as SOS.

What this means?...

...If you link the schlong meshes 0 and 1 to Hdtm.xml in the same way as male body... the equipable SOS will collide with female body in the same way.

 

So you can use the equipable SOS as a strapon for females, with full flaccid/erect physics and collisions!!! :lol:

(I will upload the linked meshes)

Guest emilio

Guest emilio

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@Daiemonic: I don't know if you are still following this thread, I just wanted to say a freakin' big THANK YOU for your efforts :D  I've been using the 'default' bounce settings so far, and an older version of HDT PE. Now I've switched to your files and it's a mind-blowing difference, really! Awesome job right there.

 

I do have one request, though. The way I understand it is that Belly vs. SOS distortion only works in Male & Female interactions, right? Is there a way to extend this to work on F/F as well? There is a quite frequently used SOS strap-on, after all. I would definitly like to have this...

 

I have been messing with SOS - Equipable Schlong from B3lisario, I dont know if you guys already knows it, but this equipable schlong mantain all the capabilities from SOS, it has the same genital rigidbodies as SOS.

What this means?...

...If you link the schlong meshes 0 and 1 to Hdtm.xml in the same way as male body... the equipable SOS will collide with female body in the same way.

 

So you can use the equipable SOS as a strapon for females, with full flacid/erect physics and collisions!!! :lol:

(I will upload the linked meshes)

 

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Eikichi Onizuka

Eikichi Onizuka

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@Daiemonic: I don't know if you are still following this thread, I just wanted to say a freakin' big THANK YOU for your efforts :D  I've been using the 'default' bounce settings so far, and an older version of HDT PE. Now I've switched to your files and it's a mind-blowing difference, really! Awesome job right there.

 

I do have one request, though. The way I understand it is that Belly vs. SOS distortion only works in Male & Female interactions, right? Is there a way to extend this to work on F/F as well? There is a quite frequently used SOS strap-on, after all. I would definitly like to have this...

 

I have been messing with SOS - Equipable Schlong from B3lisario, I dont know if you guys already knows it, but this equipable schlong mantains all the capabilities from SOS, it has the same genital rigidbodies as SOS.

What this means?...

...If you link the schlong meshes 0 and 1 to Hdtm.xml in the same way as male body... the equipable SOS will collide with female body in the same way.

 

So you can use the equipable SOS as a strapon for females, with full flaccid/erect physics and collisions!!! :lol:

(I will upload the linked meshes)

 

 

this SOS..?  post-204983-0-60093000-1402612020_thumb.jpgUNP SOS - small version, here  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/20211-sos-schlong-for-females-unp/ or other this Equipable SOS ?  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/20826-sos-equipable-schlong-and-more/

happy_polla

happy_polla

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I have a question: your HDT .xml could not use with Havok Breast Physics? . It not compatiable but your .xml so cool.

 

this is log attachicon.gifhdtPhysicsExtensions.log

 

 

INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

WARNING: Cannot bind bone : 26134b00 NPC PreBelly - bone doesn't exist

ERROR: Illegal hkx file : 26134b00 NPC PreBelly - Fixed/Keyframed body without binding!

 

 

 

You need a skeleton/body with NPC PreBelly.

 

 

 

Havok Breast Physics and xml works correct.

 

 

That seems to be my problem as well. But where do you get a skeleton with npc prebelly? XPS32 Maxium Skeleton, which I have installed, doesnt seem to have it.

 

EDIT: I found the problem and the solution: Reinstall your skeleton. If you have the xps32 max one, theres an option near the end that lets you enable extra hdt skeleton nodes. Tick that option ( it was unticked for me ) and voila, it works!

 

 

First, Thanks clp2011, and Stuffy. But i'm used XPMS Extension Alpha 2.0 by Groovtama. 

 

@Stuffy: have to edit there?

 PJobo0F.jpg

Groovtama

Groovtama

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 NPC PreBelly is replaced by HDT Belly, replace the Name "NPC PreBelly" with "HDT Belly" in your XML and it works with the 2.0 Alpha, THE ALPHA IS NOT MEANT FOR PLAYING! Beause it has some name changes.

Kazuya096

Kazuya096

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@ Daiemonic there is the hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml maybe even with a little more breast bounce?

 

I will upload one ;)

 

 

well then I'm looking forward to time on it and say thank you. :blush:

Alan47

Alan47

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@Daiemonic: I don't know if you are still following this thread, I just wanted to say a freakin' big THANK YOU for your efforts :D  I've been using the 'default' bounce settings so far, and an older version of HDT PE. Now I've switched to your files and it's a mind-blowing difference, really! Awesome job right there.

 

I do have one request, though. The way I understand it is that Belly vs. SOS distortion only works in Male & Female interactions, right? Is there a way to extend this to work on F/F as well? There is a quite frequently used SOS strap-on, after all. I would definitly like to have this...

 

I have been messing with SOS - Equipable Schlong from B3lisario, I dont know if you guys already knows it, but this equipable schlong mantains all the capabilities from SOS, it has the same genital rigidbodies as SOS.

What this means?...

...If you link the schlong meshes 0 and 1 to Hdtm.xml in the same way as male body... the equipable SOS will collide with female body in the same way.

 

So you can use the equipable SOS as a strapon for females, with full flaccid/erect physics and collisions!!! :lol:

(I will upload the linked meshes)

 

 

 

Holy crap...! I downloaded this right away, will give it a try real soon and report back with feedback :)  Meanwhile: thank you EVER so much, I really hope that this is going to work :D

Eikichi Onizuka

Eikichi Onizuka

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@ Daiemonic there is the hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml maybe even with a little more breast bounce?

I will upload one ;)

 

I never tire of saying Thank You for the excellent work carried out with great commitment and passion! ^_^

 

 

You could also do a version with more bounce on breast and butt, calibrated to work best on medium / smaller breasts and butt, please ?

 

the original version quite well, but I would like a higher sensitivity and a slightly more pronounced bounce/jiggling effect on breast and butt, and a bit of xtra movement in collisions with SOS

 

it would be possible to have this Optimized for medium/small body characters ?

Alan47

Alan47

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Hi Daiemonic,

 

as promised, here's my technical experience with your modified SOS mesh. All of the following was tested on F/F interaction between two HDT bodies (found here on the nexus, created by blabba).

 

Good news first: it does indeed work! The physics affect belly, butt and breasts just like it should be. So on a purely technical level, we're golden :)

 

 

However, I had some really big issues. The bellies of my characters were reacting to the schlong LIKE CRAZY (in a negative sense I'm afraid *gg*), with bellies jagging around in all directions - and the schlong didn't even touch them. I guess some collider sizes would need some adjustments here?

 

Also, weird detail: when the arousal status of my sos-equipped female player character is high, the schlong pushes her own belly around wildly, especially when walking. Looks funny, but is definitly extremely over-exaggerated.

 

On the other end of the extreme, as far as I can tell from my testing, the schlong *hardly* effects boobs. Where the belly collision is way to extreme, the boob collision is pretty insensitive in my experience.

 

 

Here are some of my settings which (I assume) affect all of this:

 - HDT PE Version: from your main post, the HDT all in one (14.28)

 - HDT XML files: from your main post (no modifications)

 - Skeleton: XMPS extended (LoversLab version, perhaps not the very latest update, not sure)

 - SOS: from the thread you linked; SOS itself is working perfectly

 - Character: SOS base scale increased to about 1.5 in RaceMenu, SOS genitals 5 (the last one) to about 1.3

 

 

Hope this info helps. Your mod is already really close and on a technical level its working perfectly, but it requires some fine-tuning :)

 

 

Big Thanks for your efforts!

 

 

 

Alan

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