Working Vagina + HDT Collisions + Hair Physics Now With Belly Support

[Budroi]

@ sampsamp

 

Are you still using Adec Manga body with my HDT setup? If so, I'll send you the files to add it back in. I don't have those up on my site yet.

 

*edit*

unfortuantely the files are at home and im at work for the next 6 hours. will have to send later if you need them.

[Guest]

Thanks a lot for you work Daiemonic!

 

I´m using your LessBounce2 and it looks amazing!

Very nice job!

 

But somehow it changes the 7B body shape a bit.

So I´m trying to tweak it a little.

I´m using the XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended.

 

Here are the comparisons:

 

 

Natural body

 

With HDT

 

 

 

Any help will much appreciated

Thanks

[ElPsyCongroo]

Thanks a lot for you work Daiemonic!

 

I´m using your LessBounce2 and it looks amazing!

Very nice job!

 

But somehow it changes the 7B body shape a bit.

So I´m trying to tweak it a little.

I´m using the XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended.

 

Here are the comparisons:

 

 

Natural body

 

With HDT

 

 

 

Any help will much appreciated

Thanks

 

I think it's not a bug or anything else. HDTPE gives gravity to the bones so it will be pulled by gravity. Try to reduce the scaie of your breasts a bit.

 

[Eikichi Onizuka]

Thanks a lot for you work Daiemonic!

 

I´m using your LessBounce2 and it looks amazing!

Very nice job!

 

But somehow it changes the 7B body shape a bit.

So I´m trying to tweak it a little.

I´m using the XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended.

 

Here are the comparisons:

 

 

Natural body

 

With HDT

 

 

 

Any help will much appreciated

Thanks

is a phenomenon called Torpedo Breasts..

 

 

try to uninstall and reinstall with NMM or MO the XPMSE skeleton, and remeber to activate the HDT option during the installation

 

Run FNIS v5.1 and remember to select the arms patch in FNIS

[Guest]

 

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is a phenomenon called torpedo breasts..

 

 

try to uninstall and reinstall with NMM or MO the XPMSE skeleton, and remeber to activate the HDT option during the installation

 

Run FNIS v5.1 and remember to select the arms patch in FNIS

 

 

Did all that still no luck..

There's gotta be a edit in JFF that improves the shape.

[Budroi]

 

 

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is a phenomenon called torpedo breasts..

 

 

try to uninstall and reinstall with NMM or MO the XPMSE skeleton, and remeber to activate the HDT option during the installation

 

Run FNIS v5.1 and remember to select the arms patch in FNIS

 

 

Did all that still no luck..

There's gotta be a edit in JFF that improves the shape.

 

 

reduce gravity in jff.

might even get lucky just reducing the mass by a factor of 0.2 (current mass value * 0.2 = X)

[Guest]

 

reduce gravity in jff.

might even get lucky just reducing the mass by a factor of 0.2 (current mass value * 0.2 = X)

 

 

In all breasts bones?

[Budroi]

 

 

reduce gravity in jff.

might even get lucky just reducing the mass by a factor of 0.2 (current mass value * 0.2 = X)

 

 

In all breasts bones?

 

 

I believe you only need to modify the values for NPC Breast L & R.

I do not believe the pre breasts would need to be modified.

[Budroi]

Sorry I completely didn't realize until i was setting the coffee maker for work in the morning.

I accidentally skipped a portion of the equation.

(current mass value * 0.2 = X) <----that only give you the value to reduce by.

 

Whole equation would be

 

current mass value - (current mass value * 0.2) = new mass value

 

Sorry about that. I cant believe I originally told you to set the mass as 20% of total.

[sampsamp]

using bodyslide 2 hdt cbbe body with this defaultbbp.xml no breast collision at all, hdt customized bounce have it and saadia breasts did move when she did the sweeping and cooking animation but this xml don't

[svenchen]

I'll probably get lynched for asking this, but I can't really get all this to work properly.

 

The belly, butt and breast physics look like they're all there and from the front everything looks fine, but there are some major squashing issues going on. Even at high weight the nipples seem kind of flattened when looked at from the side, but things get pretty bad at low weight. Is this simply not meant to work with small breasts or did I mess up somewhere along the line?

 

Also, when I jump then the right breast spazzes out. But thats just the hdt object that I've got equipped, right?

 

Ohh and umm.... the pubic hair textures... do I need to add them to the body textures manually or something?

[Guest]

Sorry I completely didn't realize until i was setting the coffee maker for work in the morning.

I accidentally skipped a portion of the equation.

(current mass value * 0.2 = X) <----that only give you the value to reduce by.

 

Whole equation would be

 

current mass value - (current mass value * 0.2) = new mass value

 

Sorry about that. I cant believe I originally told you to set the mass as 20% of total.

 

Thanks man but is not fixing it.

Even lowering the mass by -20%/-50%...

It must be something else.

Is it possible to change the XML on the fly?

Like edit it while the game is running?

[Budroi]

I'll probably get lynched for asking this, but I can't really get all this to work properly.

 

The belly, butt and breast physics look like they're all there and from the front everything looks fine, but there are some major squashing issues going on. Even at high weight the nipples seem kind of flattened when looked at from the side, but things get pretty bad at low weight. Is this simply not meant to work with small breasts or did I mess up somewhere along the line?

 

Also, when I jump then the right breast spazzes out. But thats just the hdt object that I've got equipped, right?

 

Ohh and umm.... the pubic hair textures... do I need to add them to the body textures manually or something?

 

the spazzing should not happen ideally. it is usually caused by memory issues if i remember correctly.

As for the purple pubic hair.... yes it is missing the textures. make sure they are in the correct location.

[Budroi]

 

Sorry I completely didn't realize until i was setting the coffee maker for work in the morning.

I accidentally skipped a portion of the equation.

(current mass value * 0.2 = X) <----that only give you the value to reduce by.

 

Whole equation would be

 

current mass value - (current mass value * 0.2) = new mass value

 

Sorry about that. I cant believe I originally told you to set the mass as 20% of total.

 

Thanks man but is not fixing it.

Even lowering the mass by -20%/-50%...

It must be something else.

Is it possible to change the XML on the fly?

Like edit it while the game is running?

 

 

give me an hour or so i will take a look at the xml and see if i can work up a fix.

[Guest]

give me an hour or so i will take a look at the xml and see if i can work up a fix.

 

 

Thanks!

[Budroi]

 

give me an hour or so i will take a look at the xml and see if i can work up a fix.

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

want to do some testing?

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP - test 1.7z

 

Its just the xml.

will need to be renamed. and placed accordingly. sorry.

 

*edit*

test 1 and test 2 packaged properly for NMM or MO or drag and drop.

xml Test 1.7z

xml Test 2.7z

 

Will test these myself as well but let me know what you guys think.

I need to rework files and structure to test myself.

I use a personalized HDT setup so my method of install will differ from others so my testing will take a slight while longer.

 

*edit 2*

my tests show that 2 is not a good one to use. test 1 seems to overcorrect the problem on my game.

 

*Final Edit*

Im not sure if this one will work for anyone.

I didnt have an issue with the original xml and my body.

JFF doesnt allow for changing the gravity values. when you save it, it resets gravity value to 1. so i had to manually edit the xml without JFF.

XML Test 3.7z

[parruyo]

How i can add hdt to SOS - Equipable Scholong - and more - i have CBBE and equipable scholong and work fine but i want add HDT and th file that there here don't work, the sholong is invisible.

[Daiemonic]

 

Sorry I completely didn't realize until i was setting the coffee maker for work in the morning.

I accidentally skipped a portion of the equation.

(current mass value * 0.2 = X) <----that only give you the value to reduce by.

 

Whole equation would be

 

current mass value - (current mass value * 0.2) = new mass value

 

Sorry about that. I cant believe I originally told you to set the mass as 20% of total.

 

Thanks man but is not fixing it.

Even lowering the mass by -20%/-50%...

It must be something else.

Is it possible to change the XML on the fly?

Like edit it while the game is running?

 

 

Into right/left prebreast data you have:

 

DATA

23

                        (0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000) *This line also modify possitions for breast,

                        but you better play with above values.

                        (0.000000* 0.000000* 3.000000* 0.000000)

                        *Value modifier for breast vertical possition z-axis (possitive value = higher breast);

                        *Value modifier for in/out breast possition y-axis;

                        *Value modifier for left/right possition x-axis.

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (-0.300000 0.300000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max x-axis*

                        (-0.300000 0.300000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max y-axis*

                        (-0.900000 0.900000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max z-axis*

                        *Limits to angular(horizontal) bouncing

                        (0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (2.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (-0.600000 0.600000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max x-axis*

                        (-0.600000 0.600000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max y-axis*

                        (-15.000000 15.000000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max z-axis*

                        *Limits to linear(vertical) bouncing

                        (3.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (4.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (5.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

 

This problem maybe related to initial breast vertical position in Z-axis, I lifted the breast 3 units in z-axis, try to change the value in red to 0.000000

Also, if you have breasts point out too much, try modifing green value to a negative one, as -2.000000 for example.

Anyway, I will upload a new version changing this value to 0 and tweaking the left hand collision with breast when hands go down along them.

You can edit the .xml while the game is running (I use xml notepad 2007), save the changes, go ingame, reload the savegame and unequip/equip HDT havok object (I have it in my favorites and linked to key 1).

 

[svenchen]

 

I'll probably get lynched for asking this, but I can't really get all this to work properly.

 

The belly, butt and breast physics look like they're all there and from the front everything looks fine, but there are some major squashing issues going on. Even at high weight the nipples seem kind of flattened when looked at from the side, but things get pretty bad at low weight. Is this simply not meant to work with small breasts or did I mess up somewhere along the line?

 

Also, when I jump then the right breast spazzes out. But thats just the hdt object that I've got equipped, right?

 

Ohh and umm.... the pubic hair textures... do I need to add them to the body textures manually or something?

 

the spazzing should not happen ideally. it is usually caused by memory issues if i remember correctly.

As for the purple pubic hair.... yes it is missing the textures. make sure they are in the correct location.

 

Damn, I really hope the spazzings isn't due to low memory or something. I'd hate it if I couldn't use this because of my specs. I'll keep on trying for a bit.

Where exactly can I get the textures by the way? They aren't in any of the required files or the HDT all in one/extensions archives. Do I need to download them from somewhere else or are they in the hair packs?

[Guest]

want to do some testing?

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP - test 1.7z

 

Its just the xml.

will need to be renamed. and placed accordingly. sorry.

 

*edit*

test 1 and test 2 packaged properly for NMM or MO or drag and drop.

xml Test 1.7z

xml Test 2.7z

 

Will test these myself as well but let me know what you guys think.

I need to rework files and structure to test myself.

I use a personalized HDT setup so my method of install will differ from others so my testing will take a slight while longer.

 

*edit 2*

my tests show that 2 is not a good one to use. test 1 seems to overcorrect the problem on my game.

 

*Final Edit*

Im not sure if this one will work for anyone.

I didnt have an issue with the original xml and my body.

JFF doesnt allow for changing the gravity values. when you save it, it resets gravity value to 1. so i had to manually edit the xml without JFF.

XML Test 3.7z

 

 

Did some testing budroi.

And I really apreciate that you are trying to help me!

But so far is the same result.

 

I will try to edit the pivots and see if it works

 

Here:

 

 

No HDT

Test 1

Test 3

[Budroi]

 

want to do some testing?

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP - test 1.7z

 

Its just the xml.

will need to be renamed. and placed accordingly. sorry.

 

*edit*

test 1 and test 2 packaged properly for NMM or MO or drag and drop.

xml Test 1.7z

xml Test 2.7z

 

Will test these myself as well but let me know what you guys think.

I need to rework files and structure to test myself.

I use a personalized HDT setup so my method of install will differ from others so my testing will take a slight while longer.

 

*edit 2*

my tests show that 2 is not a good one to use. test 1 seems to overcorrect the problem on my game.

 

*Final Edit*

Im not sure if this one will work for anyone.

I didnt have an issue with the original xml and my body.

JFF doesnt allow for changing the gravity values. when you save it, it resets gravity value to 1. so i had to manually edit the xml without JFF.

XML Test 3.7z

 

 

Did some testing budroi.

And I really apreciate that you are trying to help me!

But so far is the same result.

 

Could be the changes in XPMSE from XPMS.

Using XPMS the shape is normal.

When moving to XPMSE that the shape changes.

Maybe is the skeleton_female.hkx?

 

Here:

 

 

No HDT

Test 1

Test 3

 

 

unlikely a skeleton issue.

But I'm out of ideas.

[Guest]

 

Into right/left prebreast data you have:

 

DATA

23

                        (0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000) *This line also modify possitions for breast,

                        but you better play with above values.

                        (0.000000* 0.000000* 3.000000* 0.000000)

                        *Value modifier for breast vertical possition z-axis (possitive value = higher breast);

                        *Value modifier for in/out breast possition y-axis;

                        *Value modifier for left/right possition x-axis.

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (-0.300000 0.300000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max x-axis*

                        (-0.300000 0.300000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max y-axis*

                        (-0.900000 0.900000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max z-axis*

                        *Limits to angular(horizontal) bouncing

                        (0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (2.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (-0.600000 0.600000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max x-axis*

                        (-0.600000 0.600000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max y-axis*

                        (-15.000000 15.000000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max z-axis*

                        *Limits to linear(vertical) bouncing

                        (3.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (4.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (5.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

 

This problem maybe related to initial breast vertical position in Z-axis, I lifted the breast 3 units in z-axis, try to change the value in red to 0.000000

Also, if you have breasts point out too much, try modifing green value to a negative one, as -2.000000 for example.

Anyway, I will upload a new version changing this value to 0 and tweaking the left hand collision with breast when hands go down along them.

You can edit the .xml while the game is running (I use xml notepad 2007), save the changes, go ingame, reload the savegame and unequip/equip HDT havok object (I have it in my favorites and linked to key 1).

 

 

 

Thanks Daiemonic!

Editing the Z and Y positions fixed for me!

I also followed a tip from Stevierage here.

 

Here is how it looks now:

 

 

 

 

[Daiemonic]

 

 

Into right/left prebreast data you have:

 

DATA

23

                        (0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000) *This line also modify possitions for breast,

                        but you better play with above values.

                        (0.000000* 0.000000* 3.000000* 0.000000)

                        *Value modifier for breast vertical possition z-axis (possitive value = higher breast);

                        *Value modifier for in/out breast possition y-axis;

                        *Value modifier for left/right possition x-axis.

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (-0.300000 0.300000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max x-axis*

                        (-0.300000 0.300000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max y-axis*

                        (-0.900000 0.900000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max z-axis*

                        *Limits to angular(horizontal) bouncing

                        (0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (2.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (1.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (0.000000 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000)

                        (-0.600000 0.600000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max x-axis*

                        (-0.600000 0.600000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max y-axis*

                        (-15.000000 15.000000 0.000000 0.000000) min/max z-axis*

                        *Limits to linear(vertical) bouncing

                        (3.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (4.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

                        (5.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000)

 

This problem maybe related to initial breast vertical position in Z-axis, I lifted the breast 3 units in z-axis, try to change the value in red to 0.000000

Also, if you have breasts point out too much, try modifing green value to a negative one, as -2.000000 for example.

Anyway, I will upload a new version changing this value to 0 and tweaking the left hand collision with breast when hands go down along them.

You can edit the .xml while the game is running (I use xml notepad 2007), save the changes, go ingame, reload the savegame and unequip/equip HDT havok object (I have it in my favorites and linked to key 1).

 

 

 

Thanks Daiemonic!

Editing the Z and Y positions fixed for me!

I also followed a tip from Stevierage here.

 

Here is how it looks now:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you have deleted the skeleton_female.hkx file?

 

 

[Guest]

Do you have deleted the skeleton_female.hkx file?

 

No I'm keeping everything fully installed.

Just tweaked the XML a bit using JFF.

[Budroi]

What program do you need to edit the XML? I've had an issue with the torpedo breasts for far too long!

 

Just For Fun - JFF (here)

and/or

any XML editors - examples (here) or (here)