Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[ChewGun]

Does somebody know which mod disables jumping while wearing an armbinder? Or is it a default behaviour of DDi/DDx?

Also, the magic escape system is gone or just temporarily disabled until future update/fix?

[Zaflis]

@ChewGun I guess something puts your carryweight under 0, that's only thing i know that can disable jumping. Armbinder does not.

 

Magic escape is something from ancient DD, it was gone before i first installed the mod, same as the quests DD had.

[ChewGun]

4 hours ago, Zaflis said:

I guess something puts your carryweight under 0, that's only thing i know that can disable jumping. Armbinder does not.

Well, I've found the culprit - its SD+, but I still can't understand why and how this happens and I found where this is done: sanguinedebauchery.esp -> idle animation -> JumpRoot

There's a condition

WornApparelHasKeywordCount "zad_DeviousArmbinder" == 0

That doesn't allow jumping when this condition returns false i.e. when wearing an armbinder.

 

 

4 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Magic escape is something from ancient DD, it was gone before i first installed the mod, same as the quests DD had.

So, it was removed purposefully? Ah, what a disappointment

[evilblade]

Guys, I must be dumb or blind or something, but I just can't find this bloody "Masturbate on Belt Removal" option.

Could someone PLEASE point me to where EXACTLY it is?

[AtackHelicopter]

On 12/7/2019 at 5:19 AM, shinozakeh said:

OK so. Several issues I'm having. DDa runs just fine on my game, as expected, however upon activated DDx and DDi,  I get the message "Fatal error, perhaps an incomplete uninstall? Aborting the update chain" Now I think this is because I have tried to reinstall it due to it not working the first time I tried, but clearly, it didn't help. Upon making a new game with DDx and DDi active, it causes numerous infinite loading/random CTD problems. Does anyone know what the problem may be?

Crash fixes, ctd fix or something like that supposed to disable crashes in some cases(if you installed all right

[thedarkone1234]

I am not sure if this question belongs here or in DDe, but does the forbidden bookshelf in winterhold disappear completely when using Immersive College of Winterhold or is it just moved somewhere else?

If it is the first option, is there a way to generate it with the console?

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, thedarkone1234 said:

I am not sure if this question belongs here or in DDe, but does the forbidden bookshelf in winterhold disappear completely when using Immersive College of Winterhold or is it just moved somewhere else?

If it is the first option, is there a way to generate it with the console?

Try moving Cursed Loot after the college mod in load order. It should prioritize the bookshelf. Otherwise you can use console to give yourself the book. ID and its name can be checked with TES5Edit for example.

[thedarkone1234]

44 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

Try moving Cursed Loot after the college mod in load order. It should prioritize the bookshelf. Otherwise you can use console to give yourself the book. ID and its name can be checked with TES5Edit for example.

Thanks for the help, but that raises several questions for me:

 

1. The bookshelf belongs in DCL? Not in DDi/e?

 

2. I already have LOOT, but how exactly do I change my load order in it?

 

3. The entire room is remodeled in "immersive college". What if the location of that bookcase is within a wall or something? Will it be "smart" enough to replace a bookshelf from its new location with the forbidden one?

 

4. I do have DCL and I recall it is not a good idea to change the load order mid-game while playing it. Assuming I am not on a quest but have a timer locked item (belt of shame) on me, is it safe to change my load order like this?

 

Thanks a lot in advance!

[Zaflis]

31 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

 

Oops i confused mods a bit. No Cursed Loot related here. DDI is esm, you can't move it after esp's if immersive college is. Only fix with that would be to load both mods in CreationKit and make the adjustments in a new patch mod. When starting CK, select DDI and the college mods, but don't set any active file. That will tell that when you next time save changes, they will go to the new patch esp file. Assuming you know how to locate the cell and move objects around in the 3D.

[thedarkone1234]

1 hour ago, Zaflis said:

Oops i confused mods a bit. No Cursed Loot related here. DDI is esm, you can't move it after esp's if immersive college is. Only fix with that would be to load both mods in CreationKit and make the adjustments in a new patch mod. When starting CK, select DDI and the college mods, but don't set any active file. That will tell that when you next time save changes, they will go to the new patch esp file. Assuming you know how to locate the cell and move objects around in the 3D.

Is there a console command to let me simply generate the shelf with all of its contents? Maybe something like placeatme? I have no idea how to use CreationKit XD

[Zaflis]

11 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Is there a console command to let me simply generate the shelf with all of its contents? Maybe something like placeatme? I have no idea how to use CreationKit XD

Yes, and it was quite funny actually as i tried ?  It is:

 

Quote

player.placeatme xx00b00b

...where the xx is your DDI mod index in your load order.

[thedarkone1234]

44 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

Yes, and it was quite funny actually as i tried ?  It is:

 

...where the xx is your DDI mod index in your load order.

Thanks a lot. I had to move on from there, using setangle and setpos to get it to stand normally, and it is unlocked, but since the key is on a desk in the same room, I couldn't really care about such minor details. the contents are inside and that is the most important thing

[AtackHelicopter]

Guys, pls, i'm realy tired of this gag bug shit, it wont get fixed. Change mod managers, clean reinstalled game and mods plus installed them gag fixes and other mods like gagsoundfix but mouth still does the same thing, it's opens open and closes down all the time without any pauses after i trigger any animation related mods like sex lab or quests in cursed loot. It's not them but devious devices new version...

[AtackHelicopter]

1 minute ago, AtackHelicopter said:

Guys, pls, i'm realy tired of this gag bug shit, it wont get fixed. Change mod managers, clean reinstalled game and mods plus installed them gag fixes and other mods like gagsoundfix but mouth still does the same thing, it's opens open and closes down all the time without any pauses after i trigger any animation related mods like sex lab or quests in cursed loot. It's not them but devious devices new version...

for now it's like very ligth moded skyrim and all mods are installed and build correctly. This bug wont let me enjoy the rest of the dd mods......

[AtackHelicopter]

Just now, AtackHelicopter said:

for now it's like very ligth moded skyrim and all mods are installed and build correctly. This bug wont let me enjoy the rest of the dd mods......

plz, i know i sound like a stupid crybaby but i need your help

[Zaflis]

12 hours ago, AtackHelicopter said:

Guys, pls, i'm realy tired of this gag bug shit, it wont get fixed. Change mod managers, clean reinstalled game and mods plus installed them gag fixes and other mods like gagsoundfix but mouth still does the same thing, it's opens open and closes down all the time without any pauses after i trigger any animation related mods like sex lab or quests in cursed loot. It's not them but devious devices new version...

Gagsoundfix has nothing to do with it, who knows it could even cause the bug for you? First you should read on what what the gagfix is and how it works. And why we know it works, post by @piotsze :

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-43a-2019-09-10/page/457/?tab=comments#comment-2749772

 

There are not many mods that change player's mouth expression. Few i know of are sexlab itself, it has expression config in MCM. Then there's Devious Body Alteration which causes mouth to stay more open after wearing gag long time. That was really badly conflicting with DD-I 4.3a's gag script so both happened:

- We now use gag script from DD-I 4.3 (the earlier version). It's up to you to override the script file right way, but how can we be sure you actually did it right?

- DBA was patched to be less conflicting with the script in regards to mouth opening. You might still have the old version of the mod?

- You could have other mods that have something to do with mouth or expressions.

 

As always post your load order and install order, both in order of priority (not alphabetical!). Without these we don't have a clue what could be conflicting with your install. It should be straightforward to copy the files from your mod profile or some button that lets you copy paste. No video, no screenshots, no need to manually type each mod 1 by 1 either...

[AtackHelicopter]

2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Gagsoundfix has nothing to do with it, who knows it could even cause the bug for you? First you should read on what what the gagfix is and how it works. And why we know it works, post by @piotsze :

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-43a-2019-09-10/page/457/?tab=comments#comment-2749772

 

There are not many mods that change player's mouth expression. Few i know of are sexlab itself, it has expression config in MCM. Then there's Devious Body Alteration which causes mouth to stay more open after wearing gag long time. That was really badly conflicting with DD-I 4.3a's gag script so both happened:

- We now use gag script from DD-I 4.3 (the earlier version). It's up to you to override the script file right way, but how can we be sure you actually did it right?

- DBA was patched to be less conflicting with the script in regards to mouth opening. You might still have the old version of the mod?

- You could have other mods that have something to do with mouth or expressions.

 

As always post your load order and install order, both in order of priority (not alphabetical!). Without these we don't have a clue what could be conflicting with your install. It should be straightforward to copy the files from your mod profile or some button that lets you copy paste. No video, no screenshots, no need to manually type each mod 1 by 1 either...

Ok, fix was and is installed exactly how it's said, no DBA was ever installed but i had devious training installed which i used for like 2-6 months and it worked perfectly dunno if this mod could cuase that prblm cuz for now i reinstalled both skyrim, deleted all the mods and installed devious devices and their requirements, the only mod that was intstalled extra is cursed loot and ofc its requirements (no devious trainig this time). I mean the mouth is opened now but sometimes it's closes for a very short time (1/2 seconds) and opens up again that ls easily fixed by using panel gag or hoods, but i lke ballgags more so that prblm is a deal but not a very big deal

 

                         Load order 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     SexLab.esm
  6  6     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8     Devious Devices - Integration.esm    <--------- dd's were installed as they supposed to (as i wrote before, FNIS and bodyslide were used)
  9  9     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 10  a     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 11  b     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 12  c     RaceMenu.esp
 13  d     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 14  e     FNIS.esp
 15  f     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 16 10     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 17 11     XPMSE.esp
 18 12     UIExtensions.esp
 19 13     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 20 14     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp    <-------- i am pretty sure they can't cause the prblm
 21 15     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp  <-------/
 22 16     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp                         <------/
 23 17     SkyUI.esp
 24 18     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 25 19     SerialStrip.esp
 26 1a     SerialStripper.esp
 27 1b     SOS - Shop.esp
 28 1c     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 29 1d     GagSFX.esp       <------------- that was installed after the problem was found
 30 1e     GagSFXDawnguard.esp
 31 1f     GagSFXDragonborn.esp
 32 20     GagSFXHearthfires.esp
 33 21     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

 

 

LOOT WAS USED

[AtackHelicopter]

2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Gagsoundfix has nothing to do with it, who knows it could even cause the bug for you? First you should read on what what the gagfix is and how it works. And why we know it works, post by @piotsze :

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-43a-2019-09-10/page/457/?tab=comments#comment-2749772

 

There are not many mods that change player's mouth expression. Few i know of are sexlab itself, it has expression config in MCM. Then there's Devious Body Alteration which causes mouth to stay more open after wearing gag long time. That was really badly conflicting with DD-I 4.3a's gag script so both happened:

- We now use gag script from DD-I 4.3 (the earlier version). It's up to you to override the script file right way, but how can we be sure you actually did it right?

- DBA was patched to be less conflicting with the script in regards to mouth opening. You might still have the old version of the mod?

- You could have other mods that have something to do with mouth or expressions.

 

As always post your load order and install order, both in order of priority (not alphabetical!). Without these we don't have a clue what could be conflicting with your install. It should be straightforward to copy the files from your mod profile or some button that lets you copy paste. No video, no screenshots, no need to manually type each mod 1 by 1 either...

About sexlab, i did not understand if i should change something in it's mcm menu?

maybe i'll do a windows reset to have a very clean skyrim installation 

 

    Thx for helping me

[Zaflis]

19 hours ago, AtackHelicopter said:

About sexlab, i did not understand if i should change something in it's mcm menu?

maybe i'll do a windows reset to have a very clean skyrim installation

Windows install is unlikely help, you can reset the Skyrim install from Steam if you wish though. One way is verifying game cache in there.

You didn't show your install order. Also what i can show about the script file, it should look like this (sorry my Windows is not english). Check file size and dates:

Quick language crash course: Muokattu = Modified (10 May, 2018)

Spoiler

(I recommend using spoiler button for pictures and lists of text...)

 

As for differences to usual, i don't know what serialstrip or those sos extras do, or if they conflict.

 

Edit: Wait what am i seeing... If i'm correct, the 4.3a modify date for the file is 9.9.2019, you should not have that date.

[AtackHelicopter]

6 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Windows install is unlikely help, you can reset the Skyrim install from Steam if you wish though. One way is verifying game cache in there.

You didn't show your install order. Also what i can show about the script file, it should look like this (sorry my Windows is not english). Check file size and dates:

Quick language crash course: Muokattu = Modified (10 May, 2018)

  Reveal hidden contents

(I recommend using spoiler button for pictures and lists of text...)

 

As for differences to usual, i don't know what serialstrip or those sos extras do, or if they conflict.

 

Edit: Wait what am i seeing... If i'm correct, the 4.3a modify date for the file is 9.9.2019, you should not have that date.

I use the cracked skyrim, not the official one from steam, I changed from mo2 to vortex i dunno why, but i don't think you can copy the install order there. Script modify date that is in ddi I modified is 10th may 2018.

Serial strip is a mod that adds animation to changing clothes. 

And I think sos addons are non animation 

[AtackHelicopter]

6 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Windows install is unlikely help, you can reset the Skyrim install from Steam if you wish though. One way is verifying game cache in there.

You didn't show your install order. Also what i can show about the script file, it should look like this (sorry my Windows is not english). Check file size and dates:

Quick language crash course: Muokattu = Modified (10 May, 2018)

  Reveal hidden contents

(I recommend using spoiler button for pictures and lists of text...)

 

As for differences to usual, i don't know what serialstrip or those sos extras do, or if they conflict.

 

Edit: Wait what am i seeing... If i'm correct, the 4.3a modify date for the file is 9.9.2019, you should not have that date.

Installation order.

From 1 and higher

 

Spoiler

 

Skse

Racemenu

Cbbe 

Fnis

Fnis creature 

Hdt physics

Xpmse

Bodyslide

UIExtension

Alternate start 

Additemmenu

Remodeled armor for cbbe hdt

Skyui 5.1

A bodyslide preset

Fair skin complexion 

Sexlab framework

DDa (DD for devious devices)

Sexlab aroused redux by fishburger67

DDi 

DDx

Sos

Fuzroduh

Serial strip 

Serial stripper

Gag sfx and its addons

Zaz animation pack cbbe hdt v8.0+

(Cursed loot)

 

 

Deploy order(called so in vortex, I think you meant that) from 1 and higher 

 

Spoiler

 

Additemmenu

Alternate start 

Bodyslide

Cbbe

Dda

Ddx

Ddi

Fnis

Fnis creature

Fairskin 

Fuzroduh

Gagsfx and its addons

Hdt

Racemenu

Armor

Skse

Sos

Serial strip

Serial stripper

Sexlab aroused

Sexlab framework

Bodyslide preset

Skyui

UIE

Xpmse

Zaz

 

 

 

I didn't understand ur edit, mine ddi modify date is 14th december 2019

[kapibar]

I encounter minor, but irritatnig problem - my PC sometimes briefly closes her mouth while gagged. It seems to happen randomly once in a few seconds. I suspect one the mods is the culprit here, but I have no idea which one.

 

A little help would be greatly appreciated.

[AtackHelicopter]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

I encounter minor, but irritatnig problem - my PC sometimes briefly closes her mouth while gagged. It seems to happen randomly once in a few seconds. I suspect one the mods is the culprit here, but I have no idea which one.

 

A little help would be greatly appreciated.

I have exactly the same prblm that I can't fix, it would be easier for others if you posted load order and the install order as Zaflis told me to. I'm glad that I'm not alone with this prblm.

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, AtackHelicopter said:

I have exactly the same prblm that I can't fix, it would be easier for others if you posted load order and the install order as Zaflis told me to. I'm glad that I'm not alone with this prblm.

Misery loves company, doesn't it?

 

For a while I was certain that I'm the only one with this problem, as there's nothing about it on LL. I'll post my LO when I'm back at home.

[Zaflis]

On 12/14/2019 at 8:44 PM, AtackHelicopter said:

 i had devious training installed which i used for like 2-6 months and it worked perfectly dunno if this mod could cuase that prblm cuz for now i reinstalled both skyrim, deleted all the mods and installed devious devices and their requirements, the only mod that was intstalled extra is cursed loot and ofc its requirements (no devious trainig this time). I mean the mouth is opened now but sometimes it's closes for a very short time (1/2 seconds) and opens up again that ls easily fixed by using panel gag or hoods, but i lke ballgags more so that prblm is a deal but not a very big deal

But you didn't try if it bugs in new games? Mods that contain scripts leave some of them running in the savefile. Even if you completely delete a mod it will still have traces of it in your save, scripted mods more severe than others. Some of the mods have MCM menus where you have thing like "Disable all events". You need to click those and save game before uninstalling mod. Otherwise there are script cleaners for that, not with perfect success chance of fixing it but chance...

 

@kapibar Indeed those lists would help. The gagfix script replace that was linked to in earlier pages will only fix a problem where mouth stays closed while wearing gags. Both of you seem to have something else going on. Useful thing that install orders usually show is mod versions, but they also show script patches and the likes.

 

Btw AtackHelicopter you were missing CrashFixes and PapyrusUtil   (And no, the one that comes with Sexlab is not new enough for many mods here.)