Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[Mr Technician]

Just now, Seph64 said:

Oh, so you just install the one made for LE and it works?

 

Another question; did someone ever put out a Physics Extensions mod for SE, like HDT PE? Cause I imagine some restraints won't work right without something like that. Haven't been keeping up with the Special Edition mod scene since I stuck it out with LE for so long, but I've been getting annoyed by the stability issues I've been running in to with LE that I thought I'd give SSE another go.

 

For Skyrim Legendary Edition you use only "HDT Physics Extensions" (HDT-PE) - you can download it from Nexus.

 

For Skyrim Special Edition you use only "HDT Soft Mesh Physics" (HDT-SMP) - you can download it from 9damao.com (but mostly it is service unavailable error 503), hint - search alternative download locations... ?

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, piotsze said:

For Skyrim Special Edition you use only "HDT Soft Mesh Physics" (HDT-SMP) - you can download it from 9damao.com (but mostly it is service unavailable error 503), hint - search alternative download locations... ?

Surely you did some DD conversion, and has this answer changed yet?

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-beta/page/19/?tab=comments#comment-2336134

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There is no HDT-PE for SE, probably never will be, the original author is focusing on HDT-SMP, which DD does not use. CBBE Body Physics has nothing to do with HDT.

 

[Mr Technician]

6 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

Surely you did some DD conversion, and has this answer changed yet?

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-beta/page/19/?tab=comments#comment-2336134

 

Well i didn't do conversions. I have installed DDi 4.3a AiO from Pfiffy pack for Skyrim Special Edition. I'm not using CBBE body type but UUNP. If this works - that's because of other peoples work, not mine. Bouncing of chastity bra for example - works too.

[Mr Technician]

@Zaflis Default installation of HDT-SMP, where all .xml config files are placed: "\SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\" will not allow you to have bouncings. You need to edit:

"defaultBBP.xml" and add a line with UUNP preset/file for HDT-SMP :

    <map shape="UUNP" file="SKSE\Plugins\hdtSkinnedMeshConfigs\UUNP.xml"/>

... and you need to add or make this file "UUNP.xml" into this directory. I have found this file somewhere at LoversLab shared. I think it was from this post.

Build all DD's in Bodyslide with HDT - meaning physics enabled. Ofc skeleton must be installed with Physics Extensions. It will work only that way.

 

EDIT: In this post i'm speaking only for Skyrim Special Edition and UUNP body type. I have used UUNP Special Body/Hand/Feet with Bodyslide preset "-Zeroed Sliders-".

[wardrake]

I have an issue. I am currently running Devious Devices Assets 3.0, DDI and DDX 4.2. I know I should upgrade, anyway my issue is the quests are not in the mcm menu (I am also using SD+) it A fatal has occurred with your installation of Devious Devices. Incomplete uninstall attempt perhaps? Aborting update chain. any help please. I had no issues when I used this before. I used mod manager.

[Zaflis]

6 hours ago, wardrake said:

I have an issue. I am currently running Devious Devices Assets 3.0, DDI and DDX 4.2. I know I should upgrade, anyway my issue is the quests are not in the mcm menu

DD has no quests yet. There was a work-in-progress one very long time ago but it was made inactive. Some remnants of it can still be found in Winterhold academy library.

 

Not sure about that fatal error part, where does that occur exactly?

 

Edit: Please delete the question from DDA and DDX threads.

When installing new versions of mods, you need to delete old files first. In case of MO, simply disable the old version and install new one as separate mod.

[sollego2468]

11 hours ago, piotsze said:

Ofc i can. Give me link to direct download it, and i will test it. I don't want to register on schaken-mods.com . Only one link is here pointing to Skyrim SE and i don't find any for Skyrim LE...

 

Edit: Wait now... It's not Skyrim LE compatible... ~.~

Why not compatible ? I installed and equiped the armor normally and doesnt cause CTD https://www.patreon.com/posts/melodic-pneuma-24543237. Thanks for your work, it is a pain in the ass just to figure DD.

[demonsforc]

11 hours ago, piotsze said:

@demonsforc  MxR использовал более старую версию DCL 8.2, когда с ним использовался DDi 4.2. В обоих случаях Skyrim LE и Skyrim SE работает теперь так же, как в DDi 4.3 a :

 

Skyrim Legendary Edition, DDi 4.3 a-показательные поездки и падения:

https://mega.nz/#! OXRD1SRQ!HfTeKKXfTyLLC9XZXwU3gRp85Xm8ZLNZnn_ok3wkqba

 

Skyrim Special Edition, DDi 4.3 a-показательные поездки и падения:

https://mega.nz/#! WGJRgYZT!WCI8ZJtC4nUJCAMtZLCuDONNP6GN-TPWL2hbaUMWJ0I

 

Так что я не изменю своего слова по этому поводу - она спотыкается, падает, чем тут же встает - когда анимация заканчивается.

 

Однако вы - возможно, нашли ошибку - я честно этого не знаю.

Too bad. Full animation looks better.

[Mr Technician]

3 minutes ago, sollego2468 said:

Why not compatible ? I installed and equiped the armor normally and doesnt cause CTD https://www.patreon.com/posts/melodic-pneuma-24543237. Thanks for your work, it is a pain in the ass just to figure DD.

Alright, if this is port for it for Skyrim LE... I'm giving it a try.

[Mr Technician]

9 minutes ago, demonsforc said:

Too bad. Full animation looks better.

Yeah, i think so too. And please don't quote me in Russian language - i don't know if it's saying the same as my original post. Thank you.

[Mr Technician]

@Kimy BUG: animation "Trip and Fall" is too short in DDi v4.3a - comparing to v4.2 .

 

This is what i wrote yesterday - and have checked out - originally pointed out by @demonsforc . I have made two videos.

On 10/16/2019 at 1:08 AM, piotsze said:

@demonsforc MxR was using older version of DCL 8.2 when DDi 4.2 was used with it. In both cases Skyrim LE and Skyrim SE works now like that in DDi 4.3a :

 

Skyrim Legendary Edition, DDi 4.3a - showing trip and fall:

https://mega.nz/#!OXRD1SRQ!HfTeKKXfTyLLC9XZXwU3gRp85Xm8ZLNZnN_Ok3wKqbA

 

Skyrim Special Edition, DDi 4.3a - showing trip and fall:

https://mega.nz/#!WGJRgYZT!WCI8ZJtC4nUJCAMtZLCuDONNP6GN-TPWL2hbaUMWJ0I

 

So i'm not changing my word on that - she trips, falls, than immidietly stands up - when animation ends.

 

You however - may have found a bug - i honestly don't know that.

This video show previous version that it worked - by MxR, 5'th minute and 55'th second - when his character falls than stands up MxR says at video: "I can even trip on my heels!"

Spoiler

 

 

[wardrake]

2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

DD has no quests yet. There was a work-in-progress one very long time ago but it was made inactive. Some remnants of it can still be found in Winterhold academy library.

 

Not sure about that fatal error part, where does that occur exactly?

 

Edit: Please delete the question from DDA and DDX threads.

When installing new versions of mods, you need to delete old files first. In case of MO, simply disable the old version and install new one as separate mod.

the version I am running is an older version, it should have the quests. That might be why I'm getting the fatal error. and I just installed this older version, but when I update I'll do that.

[Mr Technician]

1 hour ago, sollego2468 said:

Why not compatible ? I installed and equiped the armor normally and doesnt cause CTD https://www.patreon.com/posts/melodic-pneuma-24543237. Thanks for your work, it is a pain in the ass just to figure DD.

Yeah, i have checked that also - this is working fine in Skyrim Legendary Edition. But you need to change configuration in MCM Devious Devices. You will need to go to MCM Devious Devices -> Devices Underneath (1). And set completly everything to "None (Disabled)". Like that:

Spoiler

Proof for that it is working (helmet works too, but i didn't wear it, just don't like it):

Spoiler

Yeah - port of this armor worked just fine in Skyrim LE.

 

EDIT: I think that "the belt" from Pneuma Armor not showing for you - is not DD related thing.

[sollego2468]

46 minutes ago, piotsze said:

Yeah, i have checked that also - this is working fine in Skyrim Legendary Edition. But you need to change configuration in MCM Devious Devices. You will need to go to MCM Devious Devices -> Devices Underneath (1). And set completly everything to "None (Disabled)". Like that:

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Proof for that it is working (helmet works too, but i didn't wear it, just don't like it):

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Yeah - port of this armor worked just fine in Skyrim LE.

 

EDIT: I think that "the belt" from Pneuma Armor not showing for you - is not DD related thing.

Thanks a lot man. You are a lifesaver:))))

[Mr Technician]

1 minute ago, sollego2468 said:

Thanks a lot man. You are a lifesaver:))))

Glad to help! ?

[Zaflis]

2 hours ago, wardrake said:

the version I am running is an older version, it should have the quests. That might be why I'm getting the fatal error. and I just installed this older version, but when I update I'll do that.

You said it's 4.2, that's still quite new version. I meant something like DD 2.0 or i don't know, i came to this community after the quests were already gone.

 

Need much more info on the fatal error or we can't say much. Does MO tell the error or Skyrim? Is it during installation, in Skyrim start menu, before loading screen or after loading screen? Does it happen with new game or all saves? Screenshot could also tell something.

 

Mod install order and load order both might reveal mistakes too.

[swords and sandals]

21 hours ago, wardrake said:

the version I am running is an older version, it should have the quests. That might be why I'm getting the fatal error. and I just installed this older version, but when I update I'll do that.

 

As far as I remember, the quests were removed in DDi version 4.0. You shouldn't have them unless you're running version 3.x or earlier. And the quests themselves were part of a separate esp, called Devious Deviants. That esp was removed from the download file. If you don't have that installed, you don't have the quests - although some of the assets the quests used (such as the forbidden bookcase and its key) are still part of the DDi esm.

 

I can't say for certain which version removed them, because the mod description's change log only goes back a couple of versions now, but 4.0 is my recollection.

[MightyBeardz]

slaverun reloaded doesn't work with ddi 4.3 it needs 4.1, anywhere to get old versions?

[darktej]

1 hour ago, MightyBeardz said:

slaverun reloaded doesn't work with ddi 4.3 it needs 4.1, anywhere to get old versions?

hey there. there is a patch here for DD 4.2+ on this page. 

 

search for the user "sidfu". they have uploaded a .rar file. check it out. It worked for me. I had DD 4.3. so no issues there. hope it helps.

 

[boita]

Sorry if this is an already asked question (i searched and didn't find info), can you force open the the devices with spells ? use magicka to break free ? I feel like it was an option before

[Taki17]

31 minutes ago, boita said:

can you force open the the devices with spells ? use magicka to break free ? I feel like it was an option before

Not by default. But Devious Lore has a struggle option that is reliant on your stats.

 

[darktej]

2 hours ago, boita said:

Sorry if this is an already asked question (i searched and didn't find info), can you force open the the devices with spells ? use magicka to break free ? I feel like it was an option before

Yes you could escape restraints through magic. If I am right ever since v3.0 they removed that.  as Taki17 says Devious Lore uses your stats to help escape. mainly One-handed,two-handed, pickpocket, lockpicking and smithing. But no magic.  

[wardrake]

On 10/16/2019 at 5:53 AM, Zaflis said:

You said it's 4.2, that's still quite new version. I meant something like DD 2.0 or i don't know, i came to this community after the quests were already gone.

 

Need much more info on the fatal error or we can't say much. Does MO tell the error or Skyrim? Is it during installation, in Skyrim start menu, before loading screen or after loading screen? Does it happen with new game or all saves? Screenshot could also tell something.

 

Mod install order and load order both might reveal mistakes too.

I installed the Dda, ddi, DDx. then loaded a saved file, the error kept coming up maybe every 2 min, during gameplay, it shows up a small window pausing the game. right now I am trying with a new game.

[dgtsy]

Would it be possible to add timer locks to DD items? ie: [ Lock it on! | Manipulate locks | Timed lock ]

And if this is "easily" doable, I'm more than willing to poke around in some code.

 

Thanks!

[M1g17]

So I just started the modding thing and I found your stuff and I've been trying to use it, but Every time I try use the DD equip thing to equip the gear, the collar goes on, the gag goes on, the armbinder appears, and then the rest of the character's body dissappears. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I used the BodySlide thing to add the equipment, but I really have no idea what I'm doing with that. I've added the gear via groups, I've batch added all of the body types but no bueno. I think I did the Papyrus thing correctly so please help!

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