RDKateran Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I sent him a PM a week or two back, notifying him that Lover's Comfort reportedly needs updating, but I haven't heard back from him. The status of the PM says it hasn't been read yet.
aravis7 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I think it would be much more efficient to integrate it directly in the sexlab framework, since it's a feature used by a lot of mods. It would prevent a lot of compatibility problems and potential crashes. Plus, nobody likes to have many mods for a few additional features that could be easily handled by the core framework (I still think you should integrate a few other mods too, like cumshot, squirt, misc features... : )
germanicus Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 aravis7 - That's correct, but since Redneck is the mod's author, he has to approve it. Unless he said his thoughts about his mod any other using and adoption of his mod without his will, can be understood as thievery.
srayesmanll Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 aravis7 - That's correct, but since Redneck is the mod's author, he has to approve it. Unless he said his thoughts about his mod any other using and adoption of his mod without his will, can be understood as thievery. From the OP: Permissions Do what ever you want with the mod. So according to this, Ashal can do whatever he wants with it (merge with SL or just update it). However, it would be good to know how redneck2x is doing and if he's planning on coming back.
germanicus Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 aravis7 - That's correct, but since Redneck is the mod's author, he has to approve it. Unless he said his thoughts about his mod any other using and adoption of his mod without his will, can be understood as thievery. From the OP: Permissions Do what ever you want with the mod. So according to this, Ashal can do whatever he wants with it (merge with SL or just update it). However, it would be good to know how redneck2x is doing and if he's planning on coming back. Amen to that. Thanks for reminder.
RDKateran Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I was among those who advocated integration into Sexlab itself, but that was ruled out way back when Aroused was first released.
factoryclose Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I was among those who advocated integration into Sexlab itself, but that was ruled out way back when Aroused was first released. Yeah... It needs to be integrated after all
CGi Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Any ideas where redneck2x has gone? He hasn't been online for over 4 months... I might've missed it, but I don't recall him mentioning any extended breaks anywhere. Seeing as this is a fairly major mod that a lot of other mods depend on, I'd like to get a hold of him to find out what his plans are, if he's done and the project is abandoned; I'd like adopt it and either maintain it separately as is or start integrating it's functionality directly into SexLab's framework. Or if he's just taking a break and planning on coming back to it eventually, than great; even better. Regardless, with the long absence hopefully nothing bad happened and he's well; simply taking a break or decided to move on from Skyrim modding. Hero and i are wondering as well where Redneck2x is gone as we have the same questions. But after not seeing him online for a long time we decided to adept Aroused and integrate it into the APPS framework (with a completly new code base), which is already under heavy development with Aroused being one of the things that is worked on right now. So if you want to integrate Aroused into SexLab or take over the project, we need to know about it as then we could move our work from Aroused to other parts of the framework. Ya, we never made anything of this public, but we wanted to have something working before we announce anything like that.
JahReit Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 It is only logical, and should be in the Loverslab agreement, that a player's mod is open for others to continue the work after a certain amount of time. I would say 2 months, but to be more realistic, 3 would be reasonable for anyone, especially if they haven't logged on within that time to check on their mail or explain their absence. But, as mentioned, redneck has been kind and thoughtful enough to include that in his OP.
traveller_phi Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I like the idea of pulling Aroused into the framework. Because of Redneck's long absence, I was also pondering if I want to keep Lover's Comfort and Victim in my load order, or if I should drop them before incompatibilities arise (starting a new game now after updating everything). Upon reflection, the only things I really need from them are the (de)buffs for arousal and rape, most other things can be provided by other mods. I would suggest considering adding them to the framework along with arousal, with and MCM option to turn them on or off. I also think it would be interesting and more realistic if there was a chance that not all actors would cum during sex. The prime example would be a highly aroused rapist and a not very aroused victim, seems strange that the rapist would work to ensure his victim gets off as well. I had posted some time back a suggestion for a fairly simply calculation that could be done after the sex act to determine who cums and who doesn't. If there is interest, I can share my ideas again and help refine them. In any case, I would recommend some API be set up to help control this. May also be useful for other mods like DDi to hook into. I am not sure how it prevents the belt wear from cumming, but I have noticed that as a side effect it keeps the belted PC's partner from getting any satisfaction as well. A better API may allow for better results.
Neodarkside Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Don't suppose anyone knows the answer to my question, kinda got buried under the talk about taking over this mod, which btw I highly suggest, would love to see it part of Sexlab, it has many many uses and tons of mods use it.
traveller_phi Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I think it may just be the armor in the torso slot. I haven't really messed with it myself. There is the MCM menu option that you can set the armor you are wearing as naked or not. I suspect it would count all the things it shows there (if it is ever more than one) and if all are naked you would be naked. A quick test, set your self as exhibitionist and run around somewhere where there are no other naked people. If your arousal goes up, you are naked.
Quisling Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Just out of curiousity, when setting armor to be naked or not, if there is more than 1 item to choose from, if I set one as naked but the rest as not, is my character considered naked? For example, got a mod that adds multiple articles of clothing, lets say piercings, stockings, and a see thru robe. If I set the robe as naked but leave the other 2 unchecked, will aroused treat my character as naked? Have you checked your Papyrus log? It should have things like [06/13/2014 - 12:06:53AM] [slainternalscr <sla_Internal (16083137)>]: Draugr Scourge Lord got 2 exposure for seeing naked Nubella
silentdagger Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 My arousal time rate is stuck at 0 for some reason. The only mods I know that affect/use Aroused are SL Submit, Devious Devices (Assets, Integration, & Expansion), SL Submit & DD, and SL Nude Creatures. I have tried having sex with people, and changing the time rate but nothing seems to work. Other NPCs have a fine time rate but mine is stuck at 0.
threeddd33 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Any ideas where redneck2x has gone? He hasn't been online for over 4 months... I might've missed it, but I don't recall him mentioning any extended breaks anywhere. Seeing as this is a fairly major mod that a lot of other mods depend on, I'd like to get a hold of him to find out what his plans are, if he's done and the project is abandoned; I'd like adopt it and either maintain it separately as is or start integrating it's functionality directly into SexLab's framework. Or if he's just taking a break and planning on coming back to it eventually, than great; even better. Regardless, with the long absence hopefully nothing bad happened and he's well; simply taking a break or decided to move on from Skyrim modding. He responded to a post of mine several months ago and said he was working on race based and other forms of arousal for the next release, then he poofed out of existence. Hopefully it's just an alien abduction thing and he'll be returned soon... only slightly probed.
Neodarkside Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Just out of curiousity, when setting armor to be naked or not, if there is more than 1 item to choose from, if I set one as naked but the rest as not, is my character considered naked? For example, got a mod that adds multiple articles of clothing, lets say piercings, stockings, and a see thru robe. If I set the robe as naked but leave the other 2 unchecked, will aroused treat my character as naked? Have you checked your Papyrus log? It should have things like [06/13/2014 - 12:06:53AM] [slainternalscr <sla_Internal (16083137)>]: Draugr Scourge Lord got 2 exposure for seeing naked Nubella I unfortunately don't know how to use Papyrus logs >_< Otherwise for Aroused, would you attempt to incorporate the aroused animations he was working on as well? They're nice but watching someone floating across the floor because the animations don't end when the NPC moves is a bit akward.
Budroi Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Don't suppose anyone knows the answer to my question, kinda got buried under the talk about taking over this mod, which btw I highly suggest, would love to see it part of Sexlab, it has many many uses and tons of mods use it. I believe that vanilla skyrim treats jewelry that uses jewelry/bonus slots as naked gear. So in your instance changing robe to naked should work as intended. But if people are not commenting on you being naked then start toggling stuff till they do.
WaxenFigure Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Don't suppose anyone knows the answer to my question, kinda got buried under the talk about taking over this mod, which btw I highly suggest, would love to see it part of Sexlab, it has many many uses and tons of mods use it. I believe that vanilla skyrim treats jewelry that uses jewelry/bonus slots as naked gear. So in your instance changing robe to naked should work as intended. But if people are not commenting on you being naked then start toggling stuff till they do. Naked comments occur when you arer wearing nothing with the keywords "ArmorCuriass" or "ClothingBody". If wearing a piece of jewelry keeps you from getting naked comments then the modder who added the jewelry probably inappropriately added one of those keywords to the item. Unless of course that "jewelry" also covers the breasts, genitals or anus (covers, not occupies).
Neodarkside Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Don't suppose anyone knows the answer to my question, kinda got buried under the talk about taking over this mod, which btw I highly suggest, would love to see it part of Sexlab, it has many many uses and tons of mods use it. I believe that vanilla skyrim treats jewelry that uses jewelry/bonus slots as naked gear. So in your instance changing robe to naked should work as intended. But if people are not commenting on you being naked then start toggling stuff till they do. Naked comments occur when you arer wearing nothing with the keywords "ArmorCuriass" or "ClothingBody". If wearing a piece of jewelry keeps you from getting naked comments then the modder who added the jewelry probably inappropriately added one of those keywords to the item. Unless of course that "jewelry" also covers the breasts, genitals or anus (covers, not occupies). I have a mod enabled "No Naked comments" it was a requirement for another mod that I forget which, so nobody ever comments on being naked.
afa Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 That might be Dangerously Nude. Might consider trying Lovers victim instead.
five_by_five Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I have a mod enabled "No Naked comments" it was a requirement for another mod that I forget which, so nobody ever comments on being naked. I have that too (since recently). Because it's a requirement for keeping sane It does not interfere with Aroused, does it? Can hardly be that "makes comment", "would make comment" is how Aroused detects nakedness ... Btw, different installation & playthrough, still having the "Trainers sometimes don't do their job" issue mentioned above. Whatever Aroused does with skill learning values cannot be the exact logical reversal of the buffs in the vanilla game. Why? Because otherwise well rested + guardian stone whatever buff would sometimes result in two level ups per trainer use in the vanilla game (if you come to the trainer with a mostly filled progress bar). Which they never do. Also new books and skill quest rewards (like say Ysolda's speechcraft +1 for the Mammoth Tusk) will often not work with Aroused running. When this gets integrated, maybe look at how exactly the Lover's Desire spell of Aroused manipulates those numbers. Unless you think this is "as intended"?!
germanicus Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 No, the mod "no naked comments" is not in conflict with arousal.
Budroi Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 That might be Dangerously Nude. Might consider trying Lovers victim instead. I actually use both and i don't seem to have any issues. I do notice that random npc's like to initiate brawls with me. but a few quick hits and they stop. Maybe because MO told me to deactivate brawls bug patch and enable the bsa only? not sure. Might even be a conflict. I have never let myself lose to see what happens though. *Commander Callus (whiterun guy) you want to brawl, well shit i guess i'll just go super saiyan. I mean PSQ transform with succubus buff magic regen +75% = unlimited ki blasts. err novice spells. Unless my desires are satisfied then I auto revert and have to pull of the big guns. I mean Gear blades. *edit* nevermind i messed up. using dangerous nights not dangerously nude. ignore post.
afa Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 Just to clear some stuff up. The no naked comment is recommended/required by Dangerously Nude. Dangerously Nude trigger NPC rape when PC is naked. Lover's Victim is, in some aspect, upgrade of Dangerously Nude, and I don't think it needs No Naked Comment to function. It trigger a in a similar way, if the PC is naked or is wearing an outfit that is tagged with naked in the MCM menu. The mod also has a rape damage debuff. The brawling is a feature from Lover's Victim, if you lose the brawl NPC will trigger rape. Dangerous Night is PC can get rape when decide to sleep. chances and location is adjustable in MCM. No relation to the two other mods I don't think.
Neodarkside Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 That might be Dangerously Nude. Might consider trying Lovers victim instead. I actually use Lovers Victim, and I don't know if I ever had Dangerously nude. I don't remember when I got it, it was quite a long time ago, but yeah like someone said, it keeps me sane because EVERYONE comments on it. Either way, I shut off exibitionist in aroused anyways, I'd go from 0-100 quite quickly so my character was aroused all the time, which isn't bad, but kinda rping as this character sloooowly getting in way over her head. She's not quite there yet. Also I did disable the aroused animations, they weren't bad, but if this mod does get incorporated into Sexlab, I'd love to see the arousal animations added but make it so they break the animation if the NPC moves, a floating female touching themselves is creepy to see.
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