SexLab Defeat

[ChrisHPZ]

LOL, I got bashed by a draugr and then Serana robbed me. I guess it makes sense because she's not exactly a follower yet. 

[ChrisHPZ]

On 11/5/2017 at 3:32 AM, Blutwursst said:

Hi guys,

I currently have some issues with SL Defeat 5.3.5 and hope some knows a solution or has similar issues.

 

Somewhere during playing Defeat stopped working correctly and it was not possible to surrender to or mark enemies anymore.

Since I had some other issues I reinstalled and updated a lot of SL mods and animationpackages.

 

Now I started anew and seem not able to get Defeat working correctly.

SL Defeat works perfect after installing and activating with the basic animations of SL and Fnis Creature pack.

But whenever I install more Animationpacks and MNC +BDIC +ImmersiveCreatures+patch, I have to reconfigure Defeat to get the new Creatures registered with Defeat which works.

However after reconfiguring surrendering or marking enemy doesn´t work anymore altough when my health sinks in a fight Defeat kicks in and I am knocked down and raped, so that works.

I already tried to install defeat before and after MNC+ anims, deactivated defeat and reactivated it again, but always surrender and mark stop working after reconfiguring.

 

Any help or ideas are appreciated.

Heya Blutwursst, have ya tried adjusting your load order? A lot of times, this is all it takes.

[gomorra90]

Hello i have all the reccomended mod installed but the tie up "pose menu" doesn't show up for me. Someone can help? 

[CaptainXavy]

hello guys, the animation Feed ( i m a vampire) iis bug, i dont have any animation and my character freeze... The rest of the mod works fine, it is my fault ? it is happened to anybody else ?

[CatterHatter]

Defeat is one of the best mods. Awesome work, Goubo! I love it and have been using it for a long time. Can't imagine my game without it.

[Hassukoks]

First of all: a very nice mod. works good too most of the time and adds a lot of funny moments.

but latly i have a problem with bandits simply not beeing interested in my char anymore. They knock me out and thn do nothing altough my settings are in a way that they should try to have fun with my char. It works for many other factions, thalmor, forsworn, creatures and so on. But those damn bandits won't do anything anymore. I am not excatly sure when this started but i haven't installed any new mods for a long time. Anyone got an idea what the problem might be? My char gets knocked out, lies there for a while and then i can use the A <-> D combo to stand up again.

[Tekumze]

On 05/11/2017 at 9:32 AM, Blutwursst said:

Hi guys,

I currently have some issues with SL Defeat 5.3.5 and hope some knows a solution or has similar issues.

 

Somewhere during playing Defeat stopped working correctly and it was not possible to surrender to or mark enemies anymore.

Since I had some other issues I reinstalled and updated a lot of SL mods and animationpackages.

 

Now I started anew and seem not able to get Defeat working correctly.

SL Defeat works perfect after installing and activating with the basic animations of SL and Fnis Creature pack.

But whenever I install more Animationpacks and MNC +BDIC +ImmersiveCreatures+patch, I have to reconfigure Defeat to get the new Creatures registered with Defeat which works.

However after reconfiguring surrendering or marking enemy doesn´t work anymore altough when my health sinks in a fight Defeat kicks in and I am knocked down and raped, so that works.

I already tried to install defeat before and after MNC+ anims, deactivated defeat and reactivated it again, but always surrender and mark stop working after reconfiguring.

 

Any help or ideas are appreciated.

 

On 15/11/2017 at 9:39 PM, ChrisHPZ said:

Heya Blutwursst, have ya tried adjusting your load order? A lot of times, this is all it takes.

 

I have a similar problem as Blutwursst. I get knocked out (or surrender). They say something along the lines "I am going to have fun with you" and a few seconds later they just attack me again. No scene no nothing.

 

I guess I'll try what Chris suggested and see if moving defeat up and down the order changes that.

[Meteox]

53 minutes ago, Tekumze said:

 

 

I have a similar problem as Blutwursst. I get knocked out (or surrender). They say something along the lines "I am going to have fun with you" and a few seconds later they just attack me again. No scene no nothing.

 

I guess I'll try what Chris suggested and see if moving defeat up and down the order changes that.

That happens to me sometimes, to fix it you will have to Rebuild and Clean SexLab. Below are the steps to do so, taking directly from the Troubleshooting thread:

 

Spoiler

Open up Skyrim and goto a safe and empty location.
Load the SexLab mod configuration menu (which is labeled as simply "SexLab")
Navigate to the "Rebuild & Clean" page
Select the option "Clean System" by clicking the words "Click Here" beside it.
Read the resulting messages before closing the menus to return to the game.
With the menus closed, wait at least 60-90 seconds for it to finish the process, you should see a notification that SexLab has finished the process.
Open up the wait or sleep menu in game and wait in game for at least 2-3 hours.
Save your game
Completely quit out of Skyrim back to desktop.
Reload Skyrim and open your save made in step 8.
Open up the SexLab mod configuration menu again, and check the "Toggle Animations" page, and ensure that there are animations listed there.
Try triggering an animation through a SexLab mod to see if it is now functioning. 

 

Personally, I use the cell name Elswyer as my safe spot since it is the smallest spot in vanilla with no actors (It has M'aiq the Liar if you have not met him in game yet). You can access it through entering the command coc elsweyr in the command console.

[Tekumze]

39 minutes ago, Meteox said:

That happens to me sometimes, to fix it you will have to Rebuild and Clean SexLab. Below are the steps to do so, taking directly from the Troubleshooting thread:

 

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Open up Skyrim and goto a safe and empty location.
Load the SexLab mod configuration menu (which is labeled as simply "SexLab")
Navigate to the "Rebuild & Clean" page
Select the option "Clean System" by clicking the words "Click Here" beside it.
Read the resulting messages before closing the menus to return to the game.
With the menus closed, wait at least 60-90 seconds for it to finish the process, you should see a notification that SexLab has finished the process.
Open up the wait or sleep menu in game and wait in game for at least 2-3 hours.
Save your game
Completely quit out of Skyrim back to desktop.
Reload Skyrim and open your save made in step 8.
Open up the SexLab mod configuration menu again, and check the "Toggle Animations" page, and ensure that there are animations listed there.
Try triggering an animation through a SexLab mod to see if it is now functioning. 

 

Personally, I use the cell name Elswyer as my safe spot since it is the smallest spot in vanilla with no actors (It has M'aiq the Liar if you have not met him in game yet). You can access it through entering the command coc elsweyr in the command console.

Thx.. I'll try that

[Tekumze]

Disregard what I said earlier. I had a brainfart and didn't notice the default profile had agressive animations disabled 

[corvusbray]

First time sing this, and I have gone head over heels trying to solve this. Yes I have used FNIS. It will not appear in my MCM menu and the hotkeys are not responding. Can anyone assist?

 

I placed my sexlab load order below.

[Airianna]

On 8/10/2017 at 3:12 AM, Goubo said:

Ok quick update I'm still working on it don't worry, just that I really put too much stuff in this mod I'm really trying to not get a noodle scripted mod and clean things up while improving them as much as I can and I really have to restrain myself adding more ideas along the way that would require more work and then more testing and thus never releasing the update...

 

I will release a beta but I do need to get some important aspect of the framework and 2-3 thing fixed before, bear with me.

 

Hoping you haven't hit any major snags like I did... I lost everything due to a HD failure... Redownloading what I can, and hoping to see that Beta with Stalkers very soon! And if you need an earlybird tester, just drop it on me in PM too... hehehe Can't play Skyrim anymore without Defeat....

 

Just a thought... Perhaps make minor packs for additional content, like plugins. That way, you can release the Stalkers, then just do little plugins on the side... Allowing for a wider range of building to the liking of the individual player.

[purpleton]

The mod at this point is quite perfect but does anyone else wish that none of their followers were left out and stuck having to watch? I suppose it's great for roleplaying for one of the followers to be shocked and in horror at what is happening to their companions, but when that happens most of the time it feels like a waste. It makes sense when say, there's 4 in your party (you included) with 3 followers versus 3 enemies for one to be left out. But when evenly matched it's disappointing to see 1-2 enemies have fun with your player and maybe one follower, and the rest walk off like if they were bored.

 

Is there an easy to add a "Pair-Off" feature of some sort where it's guaranteed that if the number of enemies versus your party are matched, everyone gets to have a little fun and no one is left out? For good measure, if there's more enemies compared to your party, a way to include all of the enemies (threesome animations, etc) and if the aggressor is not satisfied he will choose to have fun with the leftover follower. I suppose what I'm asking is a management feature to extend the settings already there from random threesome chances to complete management of each aggressor "aggressing" each party member but it doesn't have to go that far, a "Pair-Off" setting would be the best fit to a tiny hangup like this.

[Ci_Ashbourne]

Question about the vampiric Feed knockdown option!

 

I'm using iNeed and Sacrosanct. The Defeat "Feed" option works well as far as animations are concerned, however, it doesn't seem to be impacting my stages of vampirism. I can use this option as much as I'd like, but it doesn't reset my hunger levels. 

 

I'm using Sacrosanct and iNeeds, and I thought that the problem was with them not triggering. At first I figured that those mods just weren't listening for the proper call to be made and had their own internal "Feeding" triggers. But then I noticed my hunger levels not altering off of Defeat feeding even without Sacrosanct or iNeeds running. It's great that the option is there, I'm just curious if it was written as an RP/appearances thing or if I've somehow fucked everything up because the feeding doesn't appear to actually count for anything other than the animation being played.

[Bullfye]

Dont know why..but for a time around 3 month  I was having random CTD mostly when a Creature showed or appeared in the game during the cross country travelings ...Until last night I couldn't ever pin point the Mod that was causing this...Last night I have started the game in a save that I have that had not this Mod installed and found out that this was the Mod causing the CTD....I realize that maybe can be a incompatibility with some other Mod that I have installed but since I have no mods installed that alter animal behaviors I can not know what can be the cause of this...Since I started the new save I have no more CTD issues when any animal or creature shows in game...

 

This was just a small report on my issue...so that others can possibly use this as a option if anyone haves the same issue...

 

Sadly this was not the only bug or issue I had with Defeat...Animations from ZAZ pack for example are known to cause other animation Mods to brake...so for consequence of this mod dependency on ZAZ animations the same issues and others came from there... I had to uninstall the Mod cause it was giving me much more game problems then benefits...sorry to the creator...but also realize that this Mod had no updates for a time , what I find sad cause really its a very good mod concept...and idea.

 

Thanks for you attention..

[shiagwen]

What about the update ? Goobo still here ?

[Whizkid]

damm another dead mod...

[WaxenFigure]

12 hours ago, Whizkid said:

damm another dead mod...

That's TWO mods you've posted absolute nonsense about.

 

You are just being impatient.  The mod authors might happen to have a life you know and are NOT at your beck and call.

[tuxagent7]

Last time we heard from Goubo, he was working hard to make a big update with a stalker like mode

 

 

[Whizkid]

1 hour ago, WaxenFigure said:

That's TWO mods you've posted absolute nonsense about.

 

You are just being impatient.  The mod authors might happen to have a life you know and are NOT at your beck and call.

well, u can hardly blame me, as these are greatly anticipated mods a must have for any play thru, ontop of the others which has been very active in their updates. especially defeat it has raised expectations to dizzy heights and going for months w/o any news makes us do crazy postings ....

 

but all the same glad that it's still been worked on and not abandoned woot!!!!

[Reesewow]

3 minutes ago, Whizkid said:

well, u can hardly blame me, as these are greatly anticipated mods a must have for any play thru, ontop of the others which has been very active in their updates. especially defeat it has raised expectations to dizzy heights and going for months w/o any news makes us do crazy postings ....

 

but all the same glad that it's still been worked on and not abandoned woot!!!!

Basically posting crap like that is 100% not helpful.  At best, you are right and the author either doesn't want to mod anymore or considers their mod "complete".  At worst, you are suggesting the mod author's new RL job is to constantly update their mod support thread with updates or be accused of having a "dead mod".

 

If the mod is a must-have in any play through, then it doesn't technically need an update.  Just enjoy the amazing free content already released.

[Gameplayer]

On ‎11‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 10:00 AM, Bullfye said:

Dont know why..but for a time around 3 month  I was having random CTD mostly when a Creature showed or appeared in the game during the cross country travelings ...Until last night I couldn't ever pin point the Mod that was causing this...Last night I have started the game in a save that I have that had not this Mod installed and found out that this was the Mod causing the CTD....I realize that maybe can be a incompatibility with some other Mod that I have installed but since I have no mods installed that alter animal behaviors I can not know what can be the cause of this...Since I started the new save I have no more CTD issues when any animal or creature shows in game...

 

This was just a small report on my issue...so that others can possibly use this as a option if anyone haves the same issue...

 

Sadly this was not the only bug or issue I had with Defeat...Animations from ZAZ pack for example are known to cause other animation Mods to brake...so for consequence of this mod dependency on ZAZ animations the same issues and others came from there... I had to uninstall the Mod cause it was giving me much more game problems then benefits...sorry to the creator...but also realize that this Mod had no updates for a time , what I find sad cause really its a very good mod concept...and idea.

 

Thanks for you attention..

I've never experienced problems with Defeat,

This isn't the only mod in your load order that effects animals/creatures if it is the only mod that does so than you haven't actually installed the mod correctly.

You should also have mods that enable creature sex such as Creature Features,

Creature Framework....Have a look for "More Nasty Creatures"

Also there is a small matter of installing creature animations from FNIS as well.

 

To be entirely honest I have run into certain creature mods that I haven't followed in quite a while cause they weren't well made for creature sex, however that is not a part of this mod and has totally different author.

I know if you used More Nasty Creatures despite it being supposedly superceded by other mods you'd have no problems.

11 minutes ago, Whizkid said:

well, u can hardly blame me, as these are greatly anticipated mods a must have for any play thru, ontop of the others which has been very active in their updates. especially defeat it has raised expectations to dizzy heights and going for months w/o any news makes us do crazy postings ....

 

but all the same glad that it's still been worked on and not abandoned woot!!!!

Sigh, I hate seeing people post like we mod authors have to always be in continuous married development of a mod.

Look Defeat works great right now, so it doesn't really need an update...

Also for one myself having been around for a while I just don't care to continuously update my mod pool a lot as that can result in me having to test a mod....I don't like testing someone elses mod got my own mods to test.  I also don't like having to wait for stuff to start working right together so in my experience when a whole slew of mods gets updated its not always a fun time.

[RitualClarity]

2 hours ago, tuxagent7 said:

Last time we heard from Goubo, he was working hard to make a big update with a stalker like mode

 

 

That would be awesome.

[Bullfye]

9 hours ago, Gameplayer said:

I've never experienced problems with Defeat,

This isn't the only mod in your load order that effects animals/creatures if it is the only mod that does so than you haven't actually installed the mod correctly.

You should also have mods that enable creature sex such as Creature Features,

Creature Framework....Have a look for "More Nasty Creatures"

Also there is a small matter of installing creature animations from FNIS as well.

 

To be entirely honest I have run into certain creature mods that I haven't followed in quite a while cause they weren't well made for creature sex, however that is not a part of this mod and has totally different author.

I know if you used More Nasty Creatures despite it being supposedly superceded by other mods you'd have no problems.

Sigh, I hate seeing people post like we mod authors have to always be in continuous married development of a mod.

Look Defeat works great right now, so it doesn't really need an update...

Also for one myself having been around for a while I just don't care to continuously update my mod pool a lot as that can result in me having to test a mod....I don't like testing someone elses mod got my own mods to test.  I also don't like having to wait for stuff to start working right together so in my experience when a whole slew of mods gets updated its not always a fun time.

I understand that you do not have problems with defeat but that is not the reason for not happening...cause I never add problems with SOS for example it doesn't mean someone else cant have issues,...I posted that I do not use Creatures or animal mods that alter animal behavior...I do not use animal sex Mods...nothing but Texture replacers.. So that was the reason I have posted...Since I reverted the game to ground zero a save that I have with no Mods installed I installed every Mod but defeat and no more CTD...So the problem at least for me was Defeat...

 

 

Do not take this words as I am disregarding you in any way..not my intention...Also I have tried to start a lot of games from my safe save..one that I have without any Mods just vanilla Skyrim and expansions...And the result was always the same with defeat Random CTD without Defeat no random CTD...The CTD I am reporting with defeat was always related to animal spawning in cross map travels...I do not use Fast travel to go anywhere..I like to go with my horse and cross the landscapes...so I rarely use Fast Travel...Every time a Dragon, or a bear..or wolfs what ever animal tends to attack me and spawns in the map I get CTD with defeat installed...without I have no issues...I have being testing this for 2 month now and its not related to any other mod but Defeat...The prof of that  sadly I add to take Defeat out of my game and now I do not have CTD issues...My game is clean...I use Tess edit every time I see a Mod unclean...follow the Mod instructions and clean it......If it was any other Mod I would still be having the issue ..and have not...Also can be related to some incompatible issue with any other Mod I assume that but could not pin point the other Mod since none of them is animal related...I do not even understand what can be in defeat that causes this issue but it did at least to me...

 

But one thing is clear...The defeat dependency of animations like Zaz Animation Pack is bad...those animations brake a lot of things in SL...mostly animations from SL...I had a lot of problems using Zaz Animation Pack as well...

 

 

Please realize that in no way I am mad or angry with you..this posts some times look like one is getting mad..I am not just clarifying this ..

[Whizkid]

please guys, lets not start something we all gonna regret, its good that this is still being worked on, would really sux if there is no updates, progress is something which every advance civilisation strives for!!!!

 

looking forward to the next update, would appreciate if we get a tentative date when this would happen, obviously it's not gonna be cast in stone.