toys Dark Desires Club

*VirginMarie* · May 30, 2022

13 minutes ago, Talesien said:

IIRC DDC uses the mini-game from SLSO rather than the Toys one though, no?

Yup

13 minutes ago, Talesien said:

(That said I appreciate that feature. Now could we get a feature to go back to not having yet another thing we "need" to level ... yes I'm not a fan of the XP thingy in T&L. Sorry I'm aware you put a lot of work into it, but ... tastes differ).

There's absolutely nothing you lose by ignoring the XP.

Its a gain for those who like it, but if you ignore it, nothing is lost.

I say this because no toy got worse. The XP buffs all either lessen a debuff, or add something you did not have before.

petronius · May 30, 2022

6 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

In today's release Toys, has the MCM option to disable the mini-game. You can now go on pure auto-pilot.

Thank you for that feature, I will update and give it another shot Would you know if there's a mod that adds autonomous sex to Sexlab, rather like Romance of NPCs for Flowergirls, but that isn't as complex and full of features as Scent of Sex? I know Radiant Prostitution is supposed to give autonomy to working girls, but my experience over many years in a very heavy mod list is that it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't - seems to be sensitive to how busy your game is. RoN, though, did work quite well - last run I had BOTH Sexlab and Flowergirls, but this time I'm trying to make it a bit more clean and "optimal". There's a lot of redundancy on having both frameworks, even if each is best at different things.

Sorry again if I felt like I was whining on my last post. My last build did run quite to my satisfaction but I'm realising, updating more than 1 year later, that even "classic" mods like Radiant Prostitution are moving towards minigames demanding player input, whereas I'm still focused on long story driven quests with devious content (such as Delzaron's or DBF's mods) and not as much on the scenes themselves And precisely because of how much I enjoyed Dark Arena, I'm looking for other "club life" mods with something extra, which brought me to DDC and then to Toys (not the other way around! LOL)

Edited May 30, 2022 by petronius

assult · May 30, 2022

Hello. How to escape from mistress and leave the place.

*VirginMarie* · May 30, 2022

12 hours ago, petronius said:

Would you know if there's a mod that adds autonomous sex

For very simple autonomous sex, Toy Story's Harlot Collar does it. It's meant to be a quick way to experience Toys&Love's new Love Scenes, without long quests and story. Then the rest of Toy Story brings you story too.

12 hours ago, petronius said:

seems to be sensitive to how busy your game is.

Yes. Too much script lag. Its not the quest mods using SL. It's the utility mods layered on top of SL. First, porting SL to SE, meant 10X slower (SE script runs literally 10X slower than LE). All these hacking SL just adds to this. Its why we made Toys&Love.

12 hours ago, petronius said:

I'm still focused on long story driven quests with devious content (such as Delzaron's or DBF's mods)

Try SLaVE. Its different but might fit what you are after in many ways.

killer905 · May 31, 2022

@darkdesires04 What do you think about the new mod (nothing innovative, but this mod would be taken in a different way than the ones I saw on the LL)?

Spoiler

A female PC could work there (as a whore) and do tasks for the owner

Male PC to do tasks to the owner

All workers are women (even the guards - mercenaries)

Everyone inside and outside (near) the brothel is wearing masks. - I'd have to find a suitable mask for this or make it.

Various colorful outfits defining what an oral, vaginal or anal specialist is - (I saw the right one, but you need permission from the author, but it hasn't been for over a year, so it probably won't be bad if we use it in the worst, it will be removed and replaced with something else)

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15529

One of the tasks would be, for example, finding employees (actresses) who would pretend to be members of a given organization, e.g. Companions, i.e. girls pretending to be people from this organization, would pretend that she is a hunter, a person who knows bears or a person who, due to the lack of a shield at hand, would give us a blow in the face .

I think the Black-Briar Lodge building would be perfect. On the ground floor there would be a bar scene where there would be bards (lute, drum, flute and singer available after completing the task) a few chairs with tables.

On the first floor there would be several rooms with actresses for a given faction (there would be 10)

in the basement there would be a storage room, cook, etc. and a separate CELL for NPCs going to rest.

What do you think, a good idea or too hackneyed?

MysticDaedra · May 31, 2022

On 5/29/2022 at 6:57 PM, petronius said:

Which mods are hard requirements and which are optional? Probably I'm missing something obvious... I tried installing SLSO because of this mod, and couldn't bring myself to like it - I don't care about minigames and don't want the need for player input during scenes, I honestly sometimes don't even watch them and just go grab myself a cup of coffee as it plays. Always set Sexlab to auto advance with timers and don't think I can adapt to an "interactive" thing. So, for the same reason, I'm having a hard time coping with Toys and think I will remove that one, too. I'd still love to try your mod if those aren't hard requirements.

You do mention without SLSO some outcomes will be "random" - I'm assuming that is not a general statement (as in your mod overriding any Sexlab behaviour), but rather something specific to DDC quests?

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm complaining, that is not my point, I just want to go on experimenting new stories and interactions - but with the same mechanics! Basic SL is perfect to me.

Thanks for sharing your mod!

Edit: It does seem like Toys is a hard requirement, though.

I keep checking in on DDC to see if the "requirements" have been pared down to be optional integrations. If I already had most of these in my mod list, I'd be tempted to add what I didn't have to make this mod work, but there's no way I'm adding all that just for a single mod. Unfortunately

*Talesien* · May 31, 2022

1 hour ago, MysticDaedra said:

I keep checking in on DDC to see if the "requirements" have been pared down to be optional integrations. If I already had most of these in my mod list, I'd be tempted to add what I didn't have to make this mod work, but there's no way I'm adding all that just for a single mod. Unfortunately

You are missing out. Maybe do what I did originally and create a special profile to play around with DDC rather than to include it into your main game. Not really advisable to modify the load order of an existing save anyway.
With SLSO gone from the requirements, I've now included it into the new load order I'm working on for my next play through.

darkdesires04 · May 31, 2022

On 5/30/2022 at 4:45 PM, assult said:

Hello. How to escape from mistress and leave the place.

Submissive rank has to be 25 or greater and you must have no debt towards the club. Then ask the mistress to release you.

Edited May 31, 2022 by darkdesires04

darkdesires04 · May 31, 2022

20 hours ago, killer905 said:

@darkdesires04 What do you think about the new mod (nothing innovative, but this mod would be taken in a different way than the ones I saw on the LL)?

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A female PC could work there (as a whore) and do tasks for the owner

Male PC to do tasks to the owner

All workers are women (even the guards - mercenaries)

Everyone inside and outside (near) the brothel is wearing masks. - I'd have to find a suitable mask for this or make it.

Various colorful outfits defining what an oral, vaginal or anal specialist is - (I saw the right one, but you need permission from the author, but it hasn't been for over a year, so it probably won't be bad if we use it in the worst, it will be removed and replaced with something else)

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15529

One of the tasks would be, for example, finding employees (actresses) who would pretend to be members of a given organization, e.g. Companions, i.e. girls pretending to be people from this organization, would pretend that she is a hunter, a person who knows bears or a person who, due to the lack of a shield at hand, would give us a blow in the face .

I think the Black-Briar Lodge building would be perfect. On the ground floor there would be a bar scene where there would be bards (lute, drum, flute and singer available after completing the task) a few chairs with tables.

On the first floor there would be several rooms with actresses for a given faction (there would be 10)

in the basement there would be a storage room, cook, etc. and a separate CELL for NPCs going to rest.

What do you think, a good idea or too hackneyed?

It's not a bad idea, but as you say there are other mods with similar content. I would say it would be better to work on something nobody has done. But as far as the idea of a girl working as a whore in an inn and doing tasks, I am not sure. If the tasks are and the dialogue are innovative, as you described, it would be a good mod. It would be also great to have a relationship with the owner where he lets you go or gives you benefits after a while, if the relationship is high, like with the mistress in the club.

But anyway here is my list of ideas which I think are good and nobody has done:

1. alternate defeat without the slave auction, where the player actually gets captured by enemies and spends time in cell or in bondage, instead of just getting raped on the spot and the scene ends. (I may do this)

2. spreading randomly pieces of armor sets with magical sex related enchantments throughout Skyrim. Player gets a bonus if the player collects a set of armor.

3. collecting "sex cards" by having sex with various races and creatures, in various positions, or wearing various bondage. The sex card decks could be "deck of bondage", "deck of undead", "deck of citizens", "deck of submissive sex", and so on... Player gets bonuses for collecting a deck.

killer905 · June 1, 2022

7 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

It's not a bad idea, but as you say there are other mods with similar content. I would say it would be better to work on something nobody has done.

True, true. Similar content, but in a different way. It's just like we have different types of slavery. Master -> Slave. There are a few mods where the player is either a slave or a master.

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But as far as the idea of a girl working as a whore in an inn and doing tasks, I am not sure. If the tasks are and the dialogue are innovative, as you described, it would be a good mod. It would be also great to have a relationship with the owner where he lets you go or gives you benefits after a while, if the relationship is high, like with the mistress in the club.

This can be solved in various ways, e.g. a female player warrior may or may not earn extra money as a as a traveling warrior actress (whore) or is not initially interested on start in it, but after 2 tasks for the owner, we get the opportunity to earn additional momet, the more that no one knows about our identity and also a pleasure.

the male player can do the same tasks, but can take money or play with one of the actresses (whore) as payment.

the task does not have to be just find an actress for a faction, you can also give a few such simple tasks in the style of (find a client who knows the identity of one of the actresses) and get a choice to kill, convince that it will end badly for him, etc.

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1. alternate defeat without the slave auction, where the player actually gets captured by enemies and spends time in cell or in bondage, instead of just getting raped on the spot and the scene ends. (I may do this)

2. spreading randomly pieces of armor sets with magical sex related enchantments throughout Skyrim. Player gets a bonus if the player collects a set of armor.

3. collecting "sex cards" by having sex with various races and creatures, in various positions, or wearing various bondage. The sex card decks could be "deck of bondage", "deck of undead", "deck of citizens", "deck of submissive sex", and so on... Player gets bonuses for collecting a deck.

1. Mod rather quickly to be done

2. Something like a helmet -> 10+ points for oral sex?

3. Even interesting, but what type of bonuses would it be? Sexual (oral men experience better oral pleasure - + 10 points) or skills +10 points in speechcraft

The ideas are ok, but at the moment it is hard for me to imagine how this is going to work.

darkdesires04 · June 1, 2022

I uploaded version 1.1.7. I made a bunch of changes and added new content, hopefully didn't break anything. Here are the changes:

- added support for male players, so they can walk in and talk to slave girls, have sex, and pay for it
- added support for slavetats, player only gets a tat if she starts working in the club
- added new dialogue with some girls and the mistress
- added 2 new girls working at the club

- fixed a bug where the sex starts beside the bed instead of on the bed, after the mistress tells the player to masturbate on the bed
- modified looks for a few girls, see pics

Edited June 1, 2022 by darkdesires04

arboc · June 2, 2022

i download the latest version, have all the requirements and instaled it via NMM, the club is not in the game.

*VirginMarie* · June 2, 2022

12 minutes ago, arboc said:

i download the latest version, have all the requirements and instaled it via NMM, the club is not in the game.

You could start with this.

Confirm DDC's MCM menu is there and opening
Start a new game, if you have not already
Run the Toys&Love MCM, Setup tab, Installation test... pass or fail?

arboc · June 3, 2022

2 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

You could start with this.

Confirm DDC's MCM menu is there and opening

Start a new game, if you have not already

Run the Toys&Love MCM, Setup tab, Installation test... pass or fail?

Thanks for the tips, neither toys or ddc appear on mcm, i think i did something wrong with the toys instalation, i didn't understand the instructions very well. this is a new game.

*VirginMarie* · June 3, 2022

14 minutes ago, arboc said:

Thanks for the tips, neither toys or ddc appear on mcm, i think i did something wrong with the toys instalation, i didn't understand the instructions very well. this is a new game.

There's no point in checking to see if the club is there, if the MCMs are not showing up. Fix this first.

For no MCMs.... Toys MCM or other mod's MCM is not showing

For i didn't understand the instructions, you'd have to be more specific.

Make sure that as you make changes, each new test is also a new game.

This might also help... Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed

Edited June 3, 2022 by VirginMarie

LaurylSardos · June 3, 2022

With last update now for male player there will be a bounty if you have sex with some female NPC. And as male player cannot work in club, so you cannot leave the club at all. How to know what female NPC client or what slave? How to reduce bounty for male NPC ? In Creation Kit i see that some feemale actors have Client Faction. So they are clients?

Edited June 3, 2022 by LaurylSardos

LaurylSardos · June 3, 2022

Also Zargul constantly runs after me and tries to start a conversation. He says that I have no debt, and the guard says that I have and dont let me came out

Edited June 3, 2022 by LaurylSardos

*Talesien* · June 3, 2022

16 hours ago, arboc said:

i download the latest version, have all the requirements and instaled it via NMM, the club is not in the game.

If you really using the old Nexus Mod Manager, I would also highly recommend switching to either Vortex or ModOrganizer 2. NMM was never that great and more importantly is very dated by now. Mod Managers are fickle as is, outdated ones are almost guaranteed to cause trouble.

darkdesires04 · June 3, 2022

3 hours ago, LaurylSardos said:

With last update now for male player there will be a bounty if you have sex with some female NPC. And as male player cannot work in club, so you cannot leave the club at all. How to know what female NPC client or what slave? How to reduce bounty for male NPC ? In Creation Kit i see that some feemale actors have Client Faction. So they are clients?

Yes, so in case you have a bounty just walk over to Zargulg and pay the bounty. You can get a bounty if someone sees you having sex with clients, and you don't work for the club.

Slaves have a collar around their neck and are naked or wearing bondage and they are all females.

Edited June 3, 2022 by darkdesires04

darkdesires04 · June 3, 2022

2 hours ago, LaurylSardos said:

Also Zargul constantly runs after me and tries to start a conversation. He says that I have no debt, and the guard says that I have and dont let me came out

All right, that is a bug because I forgot to update his dialogue if you are playing as male. Sorry about that. Here's the fix, and I updated the download section, kept the same version.

DarkDesiresClub.esp

Edited June 3, 2022 by darkdesires04

arboc · June 3, 2022

17 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

There's no point in checking to see if the club is there, if the MCMs are not showing up. Fix this first.

For no MCMs.... Toys MCM or other mod's MCM is not showing

For i didn't understand the instructions, you'd have to be more specific.

Make sure that as you make changes, each new test is also a new game.

This might also help... Steps to fix if the test in MCM failed

starting a new game twice worked for some reason, thanks for the help!

*VirginMarie* · June 3, 2022

1 hour ago, arboc said:

starting a new game twice worked for some reason, thanks for the help!

Works sometimes during heavy load, starting a new game, where SkyUI's infamous bug kills MCMs (its actually killing the initialization of the mod entirely).

The reason it works... 2nd time you start the game without exiting to desktop, it's cached in memory, thus the load is lighter, thus the SkyUI bug is not as likely to kick in.