toys Dark Desires Club

[Talesien]

Just stumbled over a problem. I've got the "Girl on girl on girl" quest from Myla, grabbed another girl ... and can't complete the quest as Sexlab "Could not start sex scene ...". Checking the console output it appears to be looking for an animation that both has and has not the 'Anal' tag, of course no scene can fulfill that condition hence no valid animation is found hence no sex scene can be started.

 

 

Edit: Bears mentioning this is not a general problem, I did that quest earlier (like in an hour or so earlier) and it worked fine. It appears to be either Myla, Zaylee (i.e. the two NPC's involved) or that Mistress saw it fit to outfit me with an inflatable anal plug in the meantime. (I tried to remove it to test that, but found that hard to do, no of the escape options I tried even acknowledge that this plug exists. So unless you can give me a console command or similar to get rid of it, I can't test that.).

Edited June 16, 2022 by Talesien

[Yoen]

no chance of a legendary edition?

[Miauzi]

Vor 4 Stunden sagte Yoen:

keine Chance auf eine legendäre Edition?

the mod author made it very clear:
He himself will not undertake any conversion from SE to LE
So if you want to play the mod on LE -> do it yourself

[Gräfin Zeppelin]

5 hours ago, Yoen said:

no chance of a legendary edition?

On the last page is a LE download contributed by another user.

[darkdesires04]

Yes, unfortunately conversion would take too much time on each update. I am still expanding the mod.

 

For the next update, I have decided to expand the club somewhat by adding 10 new girls, and a bondage whipping room in the dungeon, along with a new task to get spanked. Right now the club has the exact amount of girls it needs, but with this next update the club will have more girls than it actually needs. The extra girls will be bound in the dungeon for now. But on any subsequent updates I could pull random girls out of the club and create quests. Maybe to rescue them from bandits, or have them do other things outside the club.

 

Here's the preview of the room that I already created:

 

[Talesien]

34 minutes ago, darkdesires04 said:

Yes, unfortunately conversion would take too much time on each update. I am still expanding the mod.

 

For the next update, I have decided to expand the club somewhat by adding 10 new girls, and a bondage whipping room in the dungeon, along with a new task to get spanked. Right now the club has the exact amount of girls it needs, but with this next update the club will have more girls than it actually needs. The extra girls will be bound in the dungeon for now. But on any subsequent updates I could pull random girls out of the club and create quests. Maybe to rescue them from bandits, or have them do other things outside the club.

 

Here's the preview of the room that I already created:

 

Good addition, certainly sounds like something that's been missing from a BDSM Club. Glad you are still improving and adding to  this mod. ^^

[Yoen]

17 hours ago, Miauzi said:

the mod author made it very clear:
He himself will not undertake any conversion from SE to LE
So if you want to play the mod on LE -> do it yourself

would the TES5Edit SSE to Skyrim script do the trick or is it more complicated than that? im new to porting

[Miauzi]

Vor 14 Minuten sagte Yoen:

Würde das Skript TES5Edit SSE to Skyrim den Trick machen oder ist es komplizierter als das? Ich bin neu in der Portierung

is a lot more complicated and a user gave you a hint about an already existing conversion - it doesn't come from the author of this mod - which shouldn't be an obstacle for you to try it out

[Talesien]

On 6/16/2022 at 1:39 AM, Talesien said:

Just stumbled over a problem. I've got the "Girl on girl on girl" quest from Myla, grabbed another girl ... and can't complete the quest as Sexlab "Could not start sex scene ...". Checking the console output it appears to be looking for an animation that both has and has not the 'Anal' tag, of course no scene can fulfill that condition hence no valid animation is found hence no sex scene can be started.

 

 

Edit: Bears mentioning this is not a general problem, I did that quest earlier (like in an hour or so earlier) and it worked fine. It appears to be either Myla, Zaylee (i.e. the two NPC's involved) or that Mistress saw it fit to outfit me with an inflatable anal plug in the meantime. (I tried to remove it to test that, but found that hard to do, no of the escape options I tried even acknowledge that this plug exists. So unless you can give me a console command or similar to get rid of it, I can't test that.).

Follow up. I was able to recreate this while wearing a Toys keyless anal plug. With the plug equipped, it sets the before mentioned impossible condition and thus fails to find an animation. With the plug removed, it works fine. Appears, the "Girl on Girl on Girl" quest always looks for anal tagged animation, while some other algorithm tries to prevent animations with the anal tag getting used if you are wearing a butt plug.

[rhylo]

I´ve got a Problem when everytime I want to fulfill the tasks of the mistress in the beginning I fall through the floor when I use the furniture (table, fucking machine etc) and I mean really everytime.

Any idea if this ist DDC related or another issue?

 

 

[VirginMarie]

1 hour ago, rhylo said:

I´ve got a Problem when everytime I want to fulfill the tasks of the mistress in the beginning I fall through the floor when I use the furniture (table, fucking machine etc) and I mean really everytime.

Any idea if this ist DDC related or another issue?

 

Test on a new game, if you have not tried that already.  do I really need to start a new game?

Edited June 17, 2022 by VirginMarie

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

 if you are wearing a butt plug.

 

Good girls don't shove plugs up their innocent ass

[rhylo]

1 hour ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Test on a new game, if you have not tried that already.  do I really need to start a new game?

Jepp, did start a new game, with only 1/4 of my usual mod list. Same issue still. Guess I will try with only the minimum requirements of DDC and see what happens

 

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, VirginMarie said:

 

Good girls don't shove plugs up their innocent ass

Good girls also tend to be bored to death.

[YASHbase]

My NPCs are edited - is there a way to make it so I can have my own custom bodies in the mod?

[Miauzi]

Vor 2 Stunden sagte YASHbase:

Meine NPCs werden bearbeitet – gibt es eine Möglichkeit, es so zu machen, dass ich meine eigenen benutzerdefinierten Körper in der Mod haben kann?

As far as I can remember...
..the mod author has put a lot of work into the design of the NPCs - especially the female ones.
A second version that allows the player to freely adjust the body is currently not planned.

See also. Page 22 - his contribution from 22.5.

[YASHbase]

10 hours ago, Miauzi said:

As far as I can remember...
..the mod author has put a lot of work into the design of the NPCs - especially the female ones.
A second version that allows the player to freely adjust the body is currently not planned.

See also. Page 22 - his contribution from 22.5.

That's a shame. Is there a way to fix the textures on the bodies at least?

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte YASHbase:

Das ist eine Schande. Gibt es eine Möglichkeit, zumindest die Texturen auf den Körpern zu fixieren?

learn the necessary modification techniques yourself and edit the necessary skins for yourself

?

[Talesien]

3 hours ago, YASHbase said:

That's a shame. Is there a way to fix the textures on the bodies at least?

What fixes are needed? I've not seen any texture oddities for several versions. If there are messed up textures it's likely due to a conflict with other mods you've installed. given that you will have to do the conflict resolution, no way around that.

As for changing the bodies, technically that's possible of course, but again you will have to do it yourself. Copy all NPC's you want to change into an overide file, then edit them. It's not that difficult, if a bit tedious, especially given the number of NPC's in this mod. Can be done though, and also helps appreciate the amount of work that went into this mod. ^^

[Miauzi]

I just installed the mod and tested it with a new run (with a new character).
So I can easily get into the club
and
the absolute hammer!
Yes - big compliments to the author - there is a lot of work and a lot of love, especially in the many female NPCs and the interior design.
This mod stands out because of the different design of their body shapes - a wonderful touch of a little more realism.
Everything that concerns the different quests - I'll save that for the next few days...
..I was initially concerned with ensuring the general functionality.

---

now that I've been "banging my head" for a whole night - some things are very sobering:
Since the mod itself brings a large amount of script load - each additional mod is a lot of load of "death" - even simple sexual services in the club need 2-3 minutes to start at all.
An eternity passes between the conversation with the customer and the triggering of the action.
But what is particularly striking -> due to the massive delays, the individual tasks of the "Challenge" of the club manager can no longer be carried out at all.
After about 10 minutes, in which my char stands motionless, the message appears -> Task failed.
In the case of the werewolf in the arena, after winning the fight, you stand pointlessly in or in front of the arena - the second part of the task doesn't even come up.

Edited June 20, 2022 by Miauzi

[darkdesires04]

10 hours ago, Miauzi said:

I just installed the mod and tested it with a new run (with a new character).
So I can easily get into the club
and
the absolute hammer!
Yes - big compliments to the author - there is a lot of work and a lot of love, especially in the many female NPCs and the interior design.
This mod stands out because of the different design of their body shapes - a wonderful touch of a little more realism.
Everything that concerns the different quests - I'll save that for the next few days...
..I was initially concerned with ensuring the general functionality.

---

now that I've been "banging my head" for a whole night - some things are very sobering:
Since the mod itself brings a large amount of script load - each additional mod is a lot of load of "death" - even simple sexual services in the club need 2-3 minutes to start at all.
An eternity passes between the conversation with the customer and the triggering of the action.
But what is particularly striking -> due to the massive delays, the individual tasks of the "Challenge" of the club manager can no longer be carried out at all.
After about 10 minutes, in which my char stands motionless, the message appears -> Task failed.
In the case of the werewolf in the arena, after winning the fight, you stand pointlessly in or in front of the arena - the second part of the task doesn't even come up.

If it runs slow, I think the problem is physics running on so many NPCs, not script load. Particularly, when I was using HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics) the club was running way too slow, and I was using this console command to speed up the club:

smp reset

But without HDT-SMP, and using CBPC physics, the club was fine alongside with hundreds of other mods, including iNeed. 

Edited June 20, 2022 by darkdesires04

[Miauzi]

Vor 49 Minuten sagte darkdesires04:

Wenn es langsam läuft, liegt das Problem meiner Meinung nach an der Physik, die auf so vielen NPCs läuft, nicht an der Skriptlast. Insbesondere als ich HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics) verwendete, lief der Schläger viel zu langsam, und ich verwendete diesen Konsolenbefehl, um den Schläger zu beschleunigen:

smp-Reset

we write past each other
it's not about the NPC moving slowly - it's about e.g. when starting a sex task (customer A would like it in "dog style" - the player assumes) until then in the dialog menu the line "Let's do it" 3-5 minutes pass - during this time life in the club continues at normal speed.
I also know this from other mods that are extremely script-heavy.
You can open the "consoles" menu during this time - you can then see the messages "rattling through".
When a script then controls the movement of the player char and the NPC, things get very extreme - both literally "freeze" for minutes - but in the background everything continues to run normally...
..so e.g. the effect of the potions (e.g. Rose of Azura) decreases with a NORMAL lapse of time

 

P.S.
and that still doesn't explain why the werewolf quest "hangs" after the fight
say I defeat the werewolf - who makes himself from the field
and
there is nothing to do with the necessary sex scene with him
Because maybe the animation for it is missing?
Because of SL-Parasite I actually have loads of creature/beast sex scenes installed

Edited June 20, 2022 by Miauzi

[Miauzi]

Vor 12 Stunden sagte Miauzi:

wir schreiben aneinander vorbei
es geht nicht darum, dass sich der NPC langsam bewegt - es geht zB darum, beim Starten einer Sexaufgabe (Kunde A möchte es im "Hundestil" - der Spieler nimmt an) bis dann im Dialogmenü die Zeile "Let's do it" 3-5 Minuten vergehen - während dieser Zeit läuft das Vereinsleben im Normalbetrieb weiter.
Das kenne ich auch von anderen Mods, die extrem scriptlastig sind.
Ihr könnt in dieser Zeit das Menü „Konsolen“ öffnen – dann könnt ihr die Meldungen „durchrasseln“ sehen.
Wenn dann ein Skript die Bewegung des Spielercharakters und des NPCs steuert, wird es sehr extrem - beide "frieren" minutenlang buchstäblich ein - aber im Hintergrund läuft alles normal weiter...
..so nimmt zB die Wirkung der Tränke (zB Rose von Azura) mit NORMALER Zeit ab

 

PS
und das erklärt immer noch nicht, warum die Werwolf-Quest nach dem Kampf "hängt".
Sag ich besiege den Werwolf - der sich aus dem Feld macht
und
mit der nötigen Sexszene hat das bei ihm nichts zu tun
Weil vielleicht die Animation dafür fehlt?
Wegen SL-Parasite habe ich tatsächlich jede Menge Sexszenen mit Kreaturen/Bestien installiert

An update:

I "spun" some SexLab mods and was able to reduce the script load significantly - you can clearly see it when the "console" is open

Thus, the waiting times for interactions and animation triggering - for the normal sex orders - have decreased significantly

 

next update

after another 4-5 hours of testing/trying I got out of the club at least in a "legal" way - the final tasks by the "Mistress" could be solved at least partially.
SLSO can't really be steered properly - so in the end it's always a matter of luck whether the task works.
I chose the FemDom quest and set the effect of the "Rose of Azuar" to minimum in the MCM.
which still doesn't work -> the sex after the fight with the werewolf - although the necessary framework is installed
I've found that the post sex option does NOT work in ANY arena match.
The quest to free Nicole works - but you have to "cheat" with a character at level 1 - at least for a test run I can take responsibility for something like that for myself.
--
After the cessation of slave status, I went straight back into the "catches" of the lady -> you start again from "zero".
Now the test is about the direct tasks coming from the club boss.
Something broke in the first run.
And now I'm hanging on the small stage right next to the staircase with the task of the sex performance.
Because all customers head for the beds on the "upper floor" because of sex.
I'm asking for advice on how to solve this.

Edited June 20, 2022 by Miauzi

[Talesien]

10 hours ago, Miauzi said:

Thus, the waiting times for interactions and animation triggering - for the normal sex orders - have decreased significantly

You can also try SLU+ (https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/10316-osmelmc-mod-tweaks/) if you don't use it already and use the scene filters from that instead of the ones in DD or ZaZ. They tend to be more efficient, also as you already found out, start times are dependent of the number of animations and the various filters that get applied to them in order to find the suitable ones. That is nothing specific to DDC.

 

[darkdesires04]

On 6/20/2022 at 12:55 PM, Miauzi said:

An update:

I "spun" some SexLab mods and was able to reduce the script load significantly - you can clearly see it when the "console" is open

Thus, the waiting times for interactions and animation triggering - for the normal sex orders - have decreased significantly

 

next update

after another 4-5 hours of testing/trying I got out of the club at least in a "legal" way - the final tasks by the "Mistress" could be solved at least partially.
SLSO can't really be steered properly - so in the end it's always a matter of luck whether the task works.
I chose the FemDom quest and set the effect of the "Rose of Azuar" to minimum in the MCM.
which still doesn't work -> the sex after the fight with the werewolf - although the necessary framework is installed
I've found that the post sex option does NOT work in ANY arena match.
The quest to free Nicole works - but you have to "cheat" with a character at level 1 - at least for a test run I can take responsibility for something like that for myself.
--
After the cessation of slave status, I went straight back into the "catches" of the lady -> you start again from "zero".
Now the test is about the direct tasks coming from the club boss.
Something broke in the first run.
And now I'm hanging on the small stage right next to the staircase with the task of the sex performance.
Because all customers head for the beds on the "upper floor" because of sex.
I'm asking for advice on how to solve this.

Right now, I am making a bunch of changes for the next update, so I will do a test run when I am finished and see if these issues come up. And I can send you a beta version of the mod if you would like to be the first one to test it. It will be done in 2 or 3 weeks. In the next update, I should change the behavior of the mistress if you come back to her. At least I will change the dialogue and the starting submission level.
 

But, for now, I know for sure sex in the arena and SLSO work fine. The SLSO can be controlled, I am not sure why you would have a problem there. In the arena, the sex should start. Are you able to have sex with creatures using other mods but not this mod? You might be missing creature animations or maybe they are disabled in the sexlab MCM. Also do you see a notification message such as "could not have sex with you..." in the arena?