toys Dark Desires Club

[bwaomega]

8 hours ago, keitsoru said:

The girls. I honestly think it would be better to just have them use the default body, as these days there are mods that distribute bodyslide morphs in real time and allow the player to change the preset in game. Giving them custom bodies means that if a player uses a mod like this, then the clothes clip because said mods are trying to apply a body preset on a body that isn't set to zeroed sliders, and on clothes that don't have morphs.

That said, I can understand that as a creator, you have a specific vision for these characters. Maybe a good compromise would be to just release a version with default bodies alongside presets for the different bodies, and bodyslide files for the NPC outfits?

Or maybe you can do the job yourself, show a minimal amount of modding knowledge and save him from having to maintain two versions or abandon his own vision.

Edited May 22, 2022 by bwaomega

[darkdesires04]

On 5/21/2022 at 4:29 PM, danta said:

 

Thats the I have been using but it dose not seem to be working on the girls in the club . I know it can work as I used to have it working on my only pc .It might have something to do with the version as I'm using the downgraded anniversary .

What version are you using ?

 

The clothing's got bounce but not the bodies 

Is it to do with bodyslide ?

 

I am not sure. I am using the CBBE body and anniversary...
 

[darkdesires04]

20 hours ago, keitsoru said:

The girls. I honestly think it would be better to just have them use the default body, as these days there are mods that distribute bodyslide morphs in real time and allow the player to change the preset in game. Giving them custom bodies means that if a player uses a mod like this, then the clothes clip because said mods are trying to apply a body preset on a body that isn't set to zeroed sliders, and on clothes that don't have morphs.

That said, I can understand that as a creator, you have a specific vision for these characters. Maybe a good compromise would be to just release a version with default bodies alongside presets for the different bodies, and bodyslide files for the NPC outfits?

 

I understand, but I just don't like everyone using the same body. It's not realistic, and having two versions is just too much work...

[danta]

 All the other npcs and pc in my game are working fine . I'm also using cbbe with cbbe 3ba . Maybe Its something to do with bodyside. How do you build your bodyside ? 

[darkdesires04]

For the next mod that I am creating, I have several ideas, but now I am thinking of writing an integrated defeat mod with bondage. This is how it would work. The player and followers get defeated, then several things could happen, depending on MCM settings:

- robbery
- sex
- bondage
- capture

The difference between other defeat mods and this mod would be capture and bondage. The player and followers would be captured, taken prisoner to a random location in Skyrim and equipped in random bondage.  There they would either have to escape by lockpicking and fighting or they would have to have sex with captors and talk them into releasing them. They might be asked to "do things" similar to what mistress was asking in the club. If the player obeys and satisfies the captors, after a while the captors would just let them go. The player and followers would robbed and naked, but free. Satisfying the captors could be the same thing as in the club, controlling the player's orgasm.

The other main difference is that in this mod followers could get injured and die. Player could also die if heavily injured, but not right away after health reaches zero or never because she is essential.

Let me know, if you have any feedback. I think it's a good idea and would be fun, and I already started working on it. But I could do something else if many people think it's a bad idea.










 


 

[Legend903]

On 5/21/2022 at 9:02 AM, darkdesires04 said:

I am not sure. Is the issue that after you talk to the girl on stage nothing happens or you are not able to talk to her at all.

Nothing happens, and not able to talk to her

 

[darkdesires04]

38 minutes ago, danta said:

 All the other npcs and pc in my game are working fine . I'm also using cbbe with cbbe 3ba . Maybe Its something to do with bodyside. How do you build your bodyside ? 

I just select "CBBE Body Physics" and a preset from the list and click build.

[darkdesires04]

13 minutes ago, Legend903 said:

Nothing happens, and not able to talk to her

 

So if you have the quest to talk to her in the journal and when you walk up to her you are not able to talk to her, it's a bug. I am not sure, though, if this is a glitch that's hard to reproduce or maybe you are talking to the wrong girl, or if it's a bug that happens all the time. I could take a look in the next update, and if I get the same issue I will fix it.
 

[darkdesires04]

16 hours ago, genericuser27 said:

The eyes that are included in the mod have really nice eyelashes, what mod is that from? It's not eyes of beauty. 

I think those are from this mod:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24495?tab=description
 

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

For the next mod that I am creating, I have several ideas, but now I am thinking of writing an integrated defeat mod with bondage. This is how it would work. The player and followers get defeated, then several things could happen, depending on MCM settings:

- robbery
- sex
- bondage
- capture

The difference between other defeat mods and this mod would be capture and bondage. The player and followers would be captured, taken prisoner to a random location in Skyrim and equipped in random bondage.  There they would either have to escape by lockpicking and fighting or they would have to have sex with captors and talk them into releasing them. They might be asked to "do things" similar to what mistress was asking in the club. If the player obeys and satisfies the captors, after a while the captors would just let them go. The player and followers would robbed and naked, but free. Satisfying the captors could be the same thing as in the club, controlling the player's orgasm.

The other main difference is that in this mod followers could get injured and die. Player could also die if heavily injured, but not right away after health reaches zero or never because she is essential.

Let me know, if you have any feedback. I think it's a good idea and would be fun, and I already started working on it. But I could do something else if many people think it's a bad idea.
 

You do what floats your boat of course, but honestly it will be difficult to beat what's out there already. Like Naked Defeat, which I'm currently using and which is gearing to bring a very similar thing onto the table ... not to mention something not to unsimilar already exists if you combine it with Simple Slavery ++ and the right slavery mods. There is also Yamete Kudesai which is currently entering beta, which while more geared as a replacer for the venerable defeat (as in you can also defeat and capture your enemies), still has some similarities. Anyway I think you mainly would need to content with Naked Defeat and honestly given the head start and how feature rich that one is already, that's a tall order.
Also since it sounds like your mod again requires SLSO and the rat tail of problems associated with it, that alone would be enough for me not to include it in my load order.

The follower mortality would be a somewhat unique feature, but it's not that easy either, what of followers like Serana? If she dies to early I think the entire Dawnguard main quest dies with her. Given how asinine Skyrim can be, it's also a feature that can cause a lot of grief.

All in all, some ideas have merit, but honestly it might be more efficient if you collaborated with say Nymra or Scrab and add additional outcomes to their already existing defeat mods rather than try and invent the wheel again while fighting an uphill battle. What set DDC apart is that it pretty much filled a gap. Yes there was the Dark Arena, but that was centered around prostitution and arena fighting with no BDSM. While DDC also offers that it also has the strong BDSM theme which made it unique. So far I think the uniqueness factor of the defeat mod you are planning is not big enough, to a.) stand out enough to garner many users, and b.) be worth the SLSO hassle.

[darkdesires04]

11 hours ago, Talesien said:

You do what floats your boat of course, but honestly it will be difficult to beat what's out there already. Like Naked Defeat, which I'm currently using and which is gearing to bring a very similar thing onto the table ... not to mention something not to unsimilar already exists if you combine it with Simple Slavery ++ and the right slavery mods. There is also Yamete Kudesai which is currently entering beta, which while more geared as a replacer for the venerable defeat (as in you can also defeat and capture your enemies), still has some similarities. Anyway I think you mainly would need to content with Naked Defeat and honestly given the head start and how feature rich that one is already, that's a tall order.
Also since it sounds like your mod again requires SLSO and the rat tail of problems associated with it, that alone would be enough for me not to include it in my load order.

The follower mortality would be a somewhat unique feature, but it's not that easy either, what of followers like Serana? If she dies to early I think the entire Dawnguard main quest dies with her. Given how asinine Skyrim can be, it's also a feature that can cause a lot of grief.

All in all, some ideas have merit, but honestly it might be more efficient if you collaborated with say Nymra or Scrab and add additional outcomes to their already existing defeat mods rather than try and invent the wheel again while fighting an uphill battle. What set DDC apart is that it pretty much filled a gap. Yes there was the Dark Arena, but that was centered around prostitution and arena fighting with no BDSM. While DDC also offers that it also has the strong BDSM theme which made it unique. So far I think the uniqueness factor of the defeat mod you are planning is not big enough, to a.) stand out enough to garner many users, and b.) be worth the SLSO hassle.

Right, so for this mod I would basically need capture events thrown to my mod from defeat, not the long auction, but a direct capture into a prison or bondage along with all the followers. I could try to talk to those mod authors as you say or write my own defeat. The bottom line is, I would need a way to capture the player into bondage if I am going to continue with the bondage theme and some sort of story. The most logical way to capture the player is defeat.

 

If followers don't die then what's the point of having 50 follower mods that many players have, when you can use only 5 at a time. I understand the issue with Serana, but if such a follower dies you could just load the save where she was alive.

The other idea I have is to write a mod where I take existing armor mods such as the DX armors, and add special sex related magical enchantments to them. The player could also get a special bonus if all armor pieces from one set are collected. The mod could add the armor pieces on spawned monster bosses all over Skyrim. This mod would require the armor mods as a prerequisite. There would not be a story to this mod, and not much bondage, aside from the fact that some of the armor pieces could be bondage items.
 

Edited May 23, 2022 by darkdesires04

[keitsoru]

9 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

 

I understand, but I just don't like everyone using the same body. It's not realistic, and having two versions is just too much work...

I don't think it would be as much work as you might think, to be honest. Just a case of changing the directories for the default bodies. Then creating body slide projects for the outfits. Since the outfits are all skin tight, it would be a fairly simple task on that part. Low chance of having to manually paint any vertices that the weights don't transfer for.

 

As it stands now, however, it creates an issue for people with mods that address the very same problem you're complaining about. The fact that everyone uses the same body. As far as I know, none of the automated morph mods out there allow for specific NPCs to just simply not be affected. As such, it is easier for everyone if you, as the mod author, make the necessary adjustments for compatibility.

Edited May 23, 2022 by keitsoru

[Talesien]

10 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

Right, so for this mod I would basically need capture events thrown to my mod from defeat, not the long auction, but a direct capture into a prison or bondage along with all the followers. I could try to talk to those mod authors as you say or write my own defeat. The bottom line is, I would need a way to capture the player into bondage if I am going to continue with the bondage theme and some sort of story. The most logical way to capture the player is defeat.

Might be worth checking, creating additional scenarios to say Naked Defeat or Kudesai would save you a lot of trouble with creating the actual capture engine (unless doing something like that is what you are after) and get things going a lot faster (and prevents people like me from having to decide on one or the other, since most defeat mods do not play nice with each other).
Another option might be to create an addon to Submissive Lola the Resubmission, there is one already that has a harsher, less playful theme than the main SLTR, or if what you creates fits well perhaps Hexbolt could integrate it directly.

 

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The other idea I have is to write a mod where I take existing armor mods such as the DX armors, and add special sex related magical enchantments to them. The player could also get a special bonus if all armor pieces from one set are collected. The mod could add the armor pieces on spawned monster bosses all over Skyrim. This mod would require the armor mods as a prerequisite. There would not be a story to this mod, and not much bondage, aside from the fact that some of the armor pieces could be bondage items.

I like that idea. For more of a bondage theme, you could make it into a 'reverse' Cursed Collar quest (the one from DCL). Basically you find a piece of armor with a great enchantment, so naturally you put it on, but it comes with a curse and equips a bondage device on you for every missing armor piece. Now you have to find the other pieces and put them on to get rid of the associated bondage device. Of course, some could be in possession of people you can't simply kill (because you are bound, because they are powerful or simply because if they don't tell you where they keep it you are unlikely to ever find it). So you would have to negotiate with them for the armor piece, possible requiring pleasing them or someone of their choosing, etc.

[LaurylSardos]

Strange things with this mod. Scripts not working . I only can talk to Tracy in reception and ask me to enter fro 100 gold, but then nothing happens. It's really strange beacouse scripts are working fine earlier  . Is anybody have the same issue ? Please help.

UPDATED. Ok, problem fixed. But i dont really know why. I installed also all recommended mods with bsa extraction to loose file via MO2. Maybe someone help it.

Edited May 23, 2022 by LaurylSardos

[darkdesires04]

10 hours ago, Talesien said:

Might be worth checking, creating additional scenarios to say Naked Defeat or Kudesai would save you a lot of trouble with creating the actual capture engine (unless doing something like that is what you are after) and get things going a lot faster (and prevents people like me from having to decide on one or the other, since most defeat mods do not play nice with each other).
Another option might be to create an addon to Submissive Lola the Resubmission, there is one already that has a harsher, less playful theme than the main SLTR, or if what you creates fits well perhaps Hexbolt could integrate it directly.

 

I like that idea. For more of a bondage theme, you could make it into a 'reverse' Cursed Collar quest (the one from DCL). Basically you find a piece of armor with a great enchantment, so naturally you put it on, but it comes with a curse and equips a bondage device on you for every missing armor piece. Now you have to find the other pieces and put them on to get rid of the associated bondage device. Of course, some could be in possession of people you can't simply kill (because you are bound, because they are powerful or simply because if they don't tell you where they keep it you are unlikely to ever find it). So you would have to negotiate with them for the armor piece, possible requiring pleasing them or someone of their choosing, etc.

 

It would be hard to integrate with those two defeat mods. I tried them out. I would prefer to continue supporting both DD and Toys, and I would like to have sex outcomes based on orgasm and enjoyment if SLSO is installed, instead of just sex without an outcome, which how those mods work. Given that, I will have to write my own defeat if I go with the first idea.
 

[Talesien]

20 minutes ago, darkdesires04 said:

 

It would be hard to integrate with those two defeat mods. I tried them out. I would prefer to continue supporting both DD and Toys, and I would like to have sex outcomes based on orgasm and enjoyment if SLSO is installed, instead of just sex without an outcome, which how those mods work. Given that, I will have to write my own defeat if I go with the first idea.
 

As stated, you do what floats your boat. It's your free time you are kinda gifting us after all. ^^
Reliance on SLSO is a major turnoff, making it unlikely I would use your mod. SLSO is just too disruptive in my experience. Perhaps if you were to use the somewhat analogous mechanics in Toys, but SLSO is highly unlikely to ever find its way into one of my load orders intended for serious playthroughs (or at least longer running games). SLSO seems to work for some, but it certainly tries it best to interfere with my games. *shrug*

[darkdesires04]

25 minutes ago, Talesien said:

As stated, you do what floats your boat. It's your free time you are kinda gifting us after all. ^^
Reliance on SLSO is a major turnoff, making it unlikely I would use your mod. SLSO is just too disruptive in my experience. Perhaps if you were to use the somewhat analogous mechanics in Toys, but SLSO is highly unlikely to ever find its way into one of my load orders intended for serious playthroughs (or at least longer running games). SLSO seems to work for some, but it certainly tries it best to interfere with my games. *shrug*

All right, I see. So I will make SLSO optional. If it's not installed then sex outcomes will be random. Same could be done in the club.

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, darkdesires04 said:

All right, I see. So I will make SLSO optional. If it's not installed then sex outcomes will be random. Same could be done in the club.

That would be appreciated (even if I hate RNG ^^), but please don't feel obligated to adapt your vision on how your mods should work on my behalf. I'm just trying to explain my view and if I'm lucky perhaps offer you some ideas or insights. I might not be representative at all. While I know that a couple of other people also had their share of problems with SLSO I also know that people are much more likely to speak up if they are unhappy with something, than when they are happy with the state of things. Just the way us humans function, it appears.

[LaurylSardos]

Made simple light adaptation to Lux Lighting System

DarkDesiresClub.esp

Edited May 24, 2022 by LaurylSardos

[ropapap936]

On 5/22/2022 at 11:45 AM, darkdesires04 said:

For the next mod that I am creating, I have several ideas, but now I am thinking of writing an integrated defeat mod with bondage. This is how it would work. The player and followers get defeated, then several things could happen, depending on MCM settings:

- robbery
- sex
- bondage
- capture

The difference between other defeat mods and this mod would be capture and bondage. The player and followers would be captured, taken prisoner to a random location in Skyrim and equipped in random bondage.  There they would either have to escape by lockpicking and fighting or they would have to have sex with captors and talk them into releasing them. They might be asked to "do things" similar to what mistress was asking in the club. If the player obeys and satisfies the captors, after a while the captors would just let them go. The player and followers would robbed and naked, but free. Satisfying the captors could be the same thing as in the club, controlling the player's orgasm.

The other main difference is that in this mod followers could get injured and die. Player could also die if heavily injured, but not right away after health reaches zero or never because she is essential.

Let me know, if you have any feedback. I think it's a good idea and would be fun, and I already started working on it. But I could do something else if many people think it's a bad idea.

 

This sounds like Death Alternative more than a sexlab-type defeat mod.  And A better Death Alternative sounds great!    The one thing I as a user would be interested in is Submissive Lola integration.  Being forced to take a bandit mistress because your real follower's trapped in the bandit camp sounds perfect for a mod like this. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by ropapap936

[darkdesires04]

I uploaded a new version 1.1.6, with SLSO optional. Here are the updates:

- added random sex outcomes if SLSO is not installed
- added a few more monsters to fight in the arena, from demonic creatures
- fixed a bug where the player was not able to talk to the girl on stage

If SLSO is installed, it should work the same as before.
 

[nabliab]

Hello, I installed the latest but when I enter Hall of the Dead in whiterun I do not see any club.  Just the regular Hall of the Dead.  Went into the white catabombs too, nothing there besides skeletons.

 

Ran loot, did FNIS.. 

No problems loading game.  just can't get to the club.

[darkdesires04]

2 hours ago, hmoobguy said:

Hello, I installed the latest but when I enter Hall of the Dead in whiterun I do not see any club.  Just the regular Hall of the Dead.  Went into the white catabombs too, nothing there besides skeletons.

 

Ran loot, did FNIS.. 

No problems loading game.  just can't get to the club.

Are you sure the mod is loaded? The entrance is to your left after you enter the hall of the dead.

[VirginMarie]

2 hours ago, hmoobguy said:

can't get to the club.

 

My bet... did not start a new game

[sickomusiclovers]

Any way to add slavetats to this mod. player can get branded when they submit to the mistress.