Prison Alternative - A modular Prison System

[Pamatronic]

Got a new extension ready

enjoy!

[Soulshout]

So i downloaded all Prison Alternatives and including Punishment pack.

I went to prison in Windhelm. Guard started punishing me and then stopped. The screen went dark. But nothing else happens. Troubleshoot says i should "go into PA´s MCM and manually reset the Registry and re-Register the Events". But the issue is I can't get into the menu. Only the console.

Not sure what to do.

Do I have to go to MCM while in Prison before they punish me?

 

Edit

 

Loadout order:
SexLab.esm
PamaPrisonAlternative.esm
ZazAnimationPack.esm
Zazpatch.esp
FNIS.esp

 

Also i'm using CBBE. But i don't think this is part of the issue. Or do i need to download something extra??

Even with basic load the game is unresponsive after going dark. You can still hear NPC's around though.

 

What do I download from Zap? I downloaded Zaz7.0SE file and the patch.

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by Soulshout

[Flegmenth]

3 hours ago, Soulshout said:

So i downloaded all Prison Alternatives and including Punishment pack.

I went to prison in Windhelm. Guard started punishing me and then stopped. The screen went dark. But nothing else happens. Troubleshoot says i should "go into PA´s MCM and manually reset the Registry and re-Register the Events". But the issue is I can't get into the menu. Only the console.

Not sure what to do.

Do I have to go to MCM while in Prison before they punish me?

 

Edit

 

Loadout order:
SexLab.esm
PamaPrisonAlternative.esm
ZazAnimationPack.esm
Zazpatch.esp
FNIS.esp

 

Also i'm using CBBE. But i don't think this is part of the issue. Or do i need to download something extra??

Even with basic load the game is unresponsive after going dark. You can still hear NPC's around though.

 

What do I download from Zap? I downloaded Zaz7.0SE file and the patch.

 

You need zap8, zap7 is possibly too old.

[Soulshout]

5 hours ago, Flegmenth said:

You need zap8, zap7 is possibly too old.

I downloaded ZAZ 8.0 CBBE Rev2 and the problem persists.

I can move inside the cell despite having cuffs and a 1040 bounty.

 

EDIT

 

Good news though. Riften does work. So long as those levers are around. But nothing changes when it comes to being in a prison. Maybe it's a good idea those levers exist.

But after after the guillotine comes down the game crashes.

Edited June 8, 2022 by Soulshout

[Soulshout]

6 hours ago, Soulshout said:

I downloaded ZAZ 8.0 CBBE Rev2 and the problem persists.

I can move inside the cell despite having cuffs and a 1040 bounty.

 

EDIT

 

Good news though. Riften does work. So long as those levers are around. But nothing changes when it comes to being in a prison. Maybe it's a good idea those levers exist.

But after after the guillotine comes down the game crashes.

So after moguing some mods about who is at fault, your mod is incompatible with the following mod:
High Poly Head SE

That's the reason why the game crashes during the guillotine.

Which is a huge shame. The mod is highly needed for a preset known as the Vermilion Preset. The following is what i have:
KS Hairdos SSE
bijin Sin UNP and CBBE SE
Community overlays 2 (31-50) bodypaints warpaints tattos
ESL High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand alone
Expressive facegen morphs SE
Expressive Facial animation - female edition
High Poly Head SE
Lamenthia's Marks and beauty
Skin feature overlays SE Freckless Scars birthmarks stretch marks moles and more
Starsight Eyes
The eyes of beauty SSE
Wolfpaint - face - facepaint collection for racemenu overlays

Edited June 8, 2022 by Soulshout

[43deadwood]

On 6/5/2022 at 7:47 AM, 2generic said:

This mod looks really cool. A replacement for the always unstable Prison Overhaul (and potentially better than Prison Overhaul...?) is very tempting if I weren't using DD. If I do switch DD in favor of toys (which may happen) then this mod will be at the top of my wish list. Although, question: Can you cut out all the guro-type events through the MCM?

Yes - chance of fatal events can be set to zero

[zer02]

DEVIOUS DEVICES is a mod that is quite significant and necessary. Forcing to put one and remove the other is not the best idea.but DD is important to me

Edited June 9, 2022 by zer02

[Pamatronic]

1 hour ago, zer02 said:

DEVIOUS DEVICES is a mod that is quite significant and necessary.

Necessary for what? Maximizing your chances for a game-freeze?

If that's your thing, go on. I don't care.

[Pamatronic]

4 hours ago, Soulshout said:

So after moguing some mods about who is at fault, your mod is incompatible with the following mod:
High Poly Head SE

No, nooo, just NOOO. stop it.
You know, I really don't like being mean, but the amount of ignorance on display in your posts really is outstanding.

First of, the CTD on Decap issue is NOT fucking caused by high poly heads. its an issue with Nioverides face overlays.
This AND a workaround is listed as the very first point under troubleshooting on the frontpage of deadly furnitures.
congrats on ignoring it and spewing baseless conjecture.

 

 

15 hours ago, Soulshout said:

Do I have to go to MCM while in Prison before they punish me?

YES. how is that even a question?
The troubleshooting sections also says that its STRONGLY recommended to use a new save. goddammit.

Seriously guys ?, I´m fully aware that you have better things to do than understanding how skyrim modding works, and that's perfectly fine.
But Reading AND Following basic instructions is something I expect a normal human being to be capable of.

rant over. sorry to everyone else.

[Flegmenth]

5 hours ago, Soulshout said:

So after moguing some mods about who is at fault, your mod is incompatible with the following mod:
High Poly Head SE

That's the reason why the game crashes during the guillotine.

Which is a huge shame. The mod is highly needed for a preset known as the Vermilion Preset. The following is what i have:
KS Hairdos SSE
bijin Sin UNP and CBBE SE
Community overlays 2 (31-50) bodypaints warpaints tattos
ESL High Poly Pretty Face and Darker Brows Stand alone
Expressive facegen morphs SE
Expressive Facial animation - female edition
High Poly Head SE
Lamenthia's Marks and beauty
Skin feature overlays SE Freckless Scars birthmarks stretch marks moles and more
Starsight Eyes
The eyes of beauty SSE
Wolfpaint - face - facepaint collection for racemenu overlays

Damn, I used high poly head too【not lead to decap CTD!!!】, and it seemed since then my character become unkillable.

I'll test it later.

 

Edited June 8, 2022 by Flegmenth

[Pamatronic]

21 minutes ago, Flegmenth said:

Damn, I used high poly head too, and it seemed since then my character become unkillable.

I'll test it later.

Don´t make jokes like this ?. Someone will read it out of context and believe it.

[Flegmenth]

11 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

No, nooo, just NOOO. stop it.
You know, I really don't like being mean, but the amount of ignorance on display in your posts really is outstanding.

First of, the CTD on Decap issue is NOT fucking caused by high poly heads. its an issue with Nioverides face overlays.
This AND a workaround is listed as the very first point under troubleshooting on the frontpage of deadly furnitures.
congrats on ignoring it and spewing baseless conjecture.

 

 

YES. how is that even a question?
The troubleshooting sections also says that its STRONGLY recommended to use a new save. goddammit.

Seriously guys ?, I´m fully aware that you have better things to do than understanding how skyrim modding works, and that's perfectly fine.
But Reading AND Following basic instructions is something I expect a normal human being to be capable of.

rant over. sorry to everyone else.

Full of anger but patiently typing, LoL?

But high poly head might cover Nioveride.ini, I haven't have time to check it. And it might really change something.

 

A small question, new save, punishment only appears when my character is in Falkrest prison first time. When it's over, I tried to get caught again, escaped from jail and sent back, no any punishment but always "day goes by, nothing happened" till be free.

Is it possible to add a debug option to force to act chosen punish scene? 

[Flegmenth]

3 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

Don´t make jokes like this ?. Someone will read it out of context and believe it.

I edit it, sorry.?

[Nymra]

sorry if I asked this before, but I sometimes lose track of stuff and cannot find a note for it:

 

1.

is there a quest, modevent or faction that I can scan for to make Naked Defeat aware for the prison sentence running? 

ideally this should cover the whole period that the prison alternative does NOT want any interuptions.

 

2.
does this work automatically when vanilla prison triggers? I havent used this for a while and just want to give intructions for naked defeat users on how to get the several prison mods to trigger. 

 

thx

 

[bubba999]

Very nice but I have a couple of questions...

 

1) My PC got arrested with a 250g fine, put in prison, whipped and released all within one hour of game time. Shouldn't that be a couple of days worth of jail time?

 

2) Does it tell you how long the sentence is?

 

Anyway, looking forward to playing it more.

[Soulshout]

21 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

No, nooo, just NOOO. stop it.
You know, I really don't like being mean, but the amount of ignorance on display in your posts really is outstanding.

First of, the CTD on Decap issue is NOT fucking caused by high poly heads. its an issue with Nioverides face overlays.
This AND a workaround is listed as the very first point under troubleshooting on the frontpage of deadly furnitures.
congrats on ignoring it and spewing baseless conjecture.

 

Ok didn't notice that. Sorry.

Also i'm not an expert at modding, so i don't really understand things at all. Monkey wrench incoming.

 

Quote

YES. how is that even a question?
The troubleshooting sections also says that its STRONGLY recommended to use a new save. goddammit.

Sorry. But what i'm using is a new save. Really. :S

Edited June 9, 2022 by Soulshout

[zer02]

On 6/8/2022 at 7:24 PM, Pamatronic said:

Necessary for what? Maximizing your chances for a game-freeze?

If that's your thing, go on. I don't care.

Is the game game-freeze? If you have problems with the DD mod - If that's your thing, go on. I don't care.

Edited June 9, 2022 by zer02

[Pamatronic]

20 hours ago, Nymra said:

sorry if I asked this before, but I sometimes lose track of stuff and cannot find a note for it:

Nope, you didnt ask this beforen. no worries

 

20 hours ago, Nymra said:

1.

is there a quest, modevent or faction that I can scan for to make Naked Defeat aware for the prison sentence running? 

ideally this should cover the whole period that the prison alternative does NOT want any interuptions.

There are multiple indicators actually:
1. PA raises the DLHP (deviously helpless) flag during the sentence.
2. The quest PamaPA_Imprisoned "Jailed" is active whenever the Player is imprisoned (duh...)

3. Custom modevents:

SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementStart") is called when player gets jailed.

SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementEnd") is called when player gets Released or escapes

 

20 hours ago, Nymra said:

does this work automatically when vanilla prison triggers?

Yes

Edited June 9, 2022 by Pamatronic

[Pamatronic]

3 hours ago, bubba999 said:

1) My PC got arrested with a 250g fine, put in prison, whipped and released all within one hour of game time. Shouldn't that be a couple of days worth of jail time?

Has been asked a few times before. It doesn't actually progress time because this would cause problems with Hunger/thirst/sleep mods.

 

3 hours ago, bubba999 said:

2) Does it tell you how long the sentence is?

It doesn't tell you, but I will.
The original Idea was to have the sentence be 1 "day" for low crime, 2 for middle, and 3 for heavy crimes.
"days" are however just a metric on how many "daily" -type events you will get before release events can trigger.

Or at least this was the plan. because as of now whipping is the only daily event which is available in all jails, I´ve added the MCM option "sentence lenght limiter". In its default configuration, its set to limit you sentence to a single day, regardless of your crimes.

you can set this to higher if you want. But i´d recommend to check the option "allow duplicate events" as well. otherwise, you wont get much action after your first day.

[bubba999]

14 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

Has been asked a few times before. It doesn't actually progress time because this would cause problems with Hunger/thirst/sleep mods.

 

It doesn't tell you, but I will.
The original Idea was to have the sentence be 1 "day" for low crime, 2 for middle, and 3 for heavy crimes.
"days" are however just a metric on how many "daily" -type events you will get before release events can trigger.

Or at least this was the plan. because as of now whipping is the only daily event which is available in all jails, I´ve added the MCM option "sentence lenght limiter". In its default configuration, its set to limit you sentence to a single day, regardless of your crimes.

you can set this to higher if you want. But i´d recommend to check the option "allow duplicate events" as well. otherwise, you wont get much action after your first day.

 

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Pamatronic]

when your colleagues have fun without you and leave you with the cleanup...

[Nymra]

51 minutes ago, Pamatronic said:

Nope, you didnt ask this beforen. no worries

 

There are multiple indicators actually:
1. PA raises the DLHP (deviously helpless) flag during the sentence.
2. The quest PamaPA_Imprisoned "Jailed" is active whenever the Player is imprisoned (duh...)

3. Custom modevents:

SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementStart") is called when player gets jailed.

SendModEvent("pamaPA_ImprisonementEnd") is called when player gets Released or escapes

 

Yes

 

ah, nice, then this is already covered by DHLP. 

good to know that there is the Imprisonment start too. 
Does your mod play custom victim expressions during sentence (outside of sex)?

[Pamatronic]

27 minutes ago, Nymra said:

Does your mod play custom victim expressions during sentence (outside of sex)?

The base mod only indirectly. It uses zap cuffs which apply the light fear expression.
Some of the expansions do however apply expressions directly.

[George246209]

So recently installed the mod. It seems to work however when the punish event happens I can't move toward the poles. I can move the camera the PC seems to to remain still.

 

I use the special edition of Skyrim and made sure to use the correct animation mod. According to FNIS it is working as should be. And check that I'm suing the special edition version of this mod. Any ideas that may be causing this. I was looking at compatibility and I believe I'm all correct. 

 

Not sure if you can help me much but if you could that would be grand. I have tried previous version but the same happens. But the mod seems to respond as I get the event I just can't do anything in it. Thanks for any knowledge you may have on the subject!

[luo521cn]

Cold face punishment does not seem to be triggered. Do you have to have a follower?