Naked Defeat LE

[Flavortaste]

Is there anyway to use this mod without the dlc since I don't own any of them. Maybe like a more older version of this mod or removal of something that needs the dlc.

[Nymra]

5 minutes ago, Flavortaste said:

Is there anyway to use this mod without the dlc since I don't own any of them. Maybe like a more older version of this mod or removal of something that needs the dlc.

 

no.

and it is also not planned, sorry.
DLCs should be a common thing to have these days. 

[Nymra]

42 minutes ago, ShenGo said:

Hmm... Actually, it looks like I'm still using 2.6. Maybe I'll try the updated one, see if it's better or worse LOL

 

As for DD, I actually just downloaded it today to make sure it was up to date alongside ZAP, but no, it's not 5.1... I initially went to DD Framework, and found the links to Assets, Integration, and Expansion in the opening post, then followed those links to download it. The version numbers I found, however, were "DDa-3.0e", "Devious Devices - Expansion 4.3a", and "Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a"... Did I go to the wrong places??

 

DD5 has a new thread. I think Devious Framework link is no longer updated. They keep the old versions around it seems this time (and I appreciated that alot). 
 

But I doubt DD has anything to do with it. 
SInce it is no requirement you could still go without DD. 

 

As for the modlist:
this is the only mod I dont know and dont have. But it is highly unlikely it is responsible. No other ideas here

+Register Custom Animation Events v02

Apart from maybe checking if sometime in the past something got into the Skyrim Data folder that messes with your game. 

[ShenGo]

11 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

DD5 has a new thread. I think Devious Framework link is no longer updated. They keep the old versions around it seems this time (and I appreciated that alot). 
 

But I doubt DD has anything to do with it. 
SInce it is no requirement you could still go without DD. 

 

As for the modlist:
this is the only mod I dont know and dont have. But it is highly unlikely it is responsible. No other ideas here

+Register Custom Animation Events v02

Apart from maybe checking if sometime in the past something got into the Skyrim Data folder that messes with your game. 

Yeah, that's one of those mods that I don't know exactly what it does, but other mods require it LOL. Thank you for the info in DD, and for doing your utmost to help me! I'll examine my install folder when I get a chance.

[nomkaz]

8 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

things you could do:

- all of the following: try on your running save and also (imporant, especially if it does not work) on a new game to verify.

 

- try if this occurs with SL Defeat not installed at all (clean save/new game)

- try to start sex with other mods (Sexlab Matchmakers for example or try to get sex scenes from other sex mods you have installed) -> very important to get a bigger picture

- try rebuild Sexlab (Clean System in its debug MCM)

- reinstall Sexlab completly 

- if not on SE: install sexlab utility plus, see if it fixes something (osmels mod tweaks)

 

seems to me like maybe some other mods interfere, either starting their own sex at the same time or maybe interupting sex animations.

you could send me the papyrus.log, but no guarantees I can see anything of intereset there.

 

since the problem seems to occur with other mods too, this most likely is a sexlab problem (or a incompatibility problem with a mod connected to sex in general).

 

 

 

Sexlab Utilities Plus has an SE version in the FOMOD installer so it's good for SE as well.

[bevo67]

Hi - love this mod... works very well and I look forward to your next update/improvement ... one thing I've noticed are these weird stretched textures (perhaps from blood.. Apropo2 or Enhanced Blood Blood Textures?) not asking for a fix, just wondering if you know what might be causing this or if you've seen this before.. thanks and keep up the good work.. this is the best defeat mod out there..

[ShenGo]

2 hours ago, bevo67 said:

Hi - love this mod... works very well and I look forward to your next update/improvement ... one thing I've noticed are these weird stretched textures (perhaps from blood.. Apropo2 or Enhanced Blood Blood Textures?) not asking for a fix, just wondering if you know what might be causing this or if you've seen this before.. thanks and keep up the good work.. this is the best defeat mod out there..

That is completely bizarre because I JUST noticed the same thing while testing this mod earlier today. I'd never seen it before, but they were so thin that I thought maybe it was just something I hadn't noticed before. I saw it both before and after my first scene with this mod in one of my tests, so I assume it's unrelated to this mod, but helluva coincidence that you and I both noticed it for the first time today while playing this mod.

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, bevo67 said:

Hi - love this mod... works very well and I look forward to your next update/improvement ... one thing I've noticed are these weird stretched textures (perhaps from blood.. Apropo2 or Enhanced Blood Blood Textures?) not asking for a fix, just wondering if you know what might be causing this or if you've seen this before.. thanks and keep up the good work.. this is the best defeat mod out there..

 

 

can you help me there? i have no idea what you mean. Meaning I dont see anything on the picture that fits your description. Feel free to give me a hint or upload a different screenshot?

anyways, thx for the flowers!

[ShenGo]

17 hours ago, Nymra said:

I noticed in 3.0 it can be missbehaving when there is NO follower around (have to add more checks lol, was so foccues on getting followers to work ^^)

 

I went looking for 3.0 (since it's not in the official downloads) and just realized it always targets followers, so I think I'll wait to try that one, lol. I only use male followers, and while I've done forced SL scenes with certain male characters I created, seeing ones designed by others getting raped makes me uncomfortable for some reason LOL

[Marauderrr]

On 5/12/2021 at 7:19 AM, Nymra said:

 

things you could do:

- all of the following: try on your running save and also (imporant, especially if it does not work) on a new game to verify.

 

- try if this occurs with SL Defeat not installed at all (clean save/new game)

- try to start sex with other mods (Sexlab Matchmakers for example or try to get sex scenes from other sex mods you have installed) -> very important to get a bigger picture

- try rebuild Sexlab (Clean System in its debug MCM)

- reinstall Sexlab completly 

- if not on SE: install sexlab utility plus, see if it fixes something (osmels mod tweaks)

 

seems to me like maybe some other mods interfere, either starting their own sex at the same time or maybe interupting sex animations.

you could send me the papyrus.log, but no guarantees I can see anything of intereset there.

 

since the problem seems to occur with other mods too, this most likely is a sexlab problem (or a incompatibility problem with a mod connected to sex in general).

 

 

 

 

Thank you for your suggestions, Nymra... and your time spent on this great mod. ☺️

Can't wait to see what comes next...

 

I'm running SE with ND and Defeat running together. Defeat's anims play fine, but with ND 3.0 they do not, they start then stop.

Other mods that start SL work fine as does 2.6. Wondering if there's an issue with load order changing or defeats anim filters getting in the way.

I usually have them all disabled. A new game had the same results, so maybe vortex changed load order?

 

I'll try checking LO and removing both , clean save and reinstalling.

 

 

17 hours ago, nomkaz said:

Sexlab Utilities Plus has an SE version in the FOMOD installer so it's good for SE as well.

 

I was unaware of the SE version... I'll check this out, thanks!

 

 

[bevo67]

16 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

can you help me there? i have no idea what you mean. Meaning I dont see anything on the picture that fits your description. Feel free to give me a hint or upload a different screenshot?

anyways, thx for the flowers!

I’ll try to get a better image - in the image posted there are black smudges that can be seen right (dark circular near PC head) and left - elongated running run from head diagonally downward away from PC) .. anyway, I’ll try to get a better image ..thanks! (You’re welcome for the flowers!)

[bevo67]

16 hours ago, ShenGo said:

That is completely bizarre because I JUST noticed the same thing while testing this mod earlier today. I'd never seen it before, but they were so thin that I thought maybe it was just something I hadn't noticed before. I saw it both before and after my first scene with this mod in one of my tests, so I assume it's unrelated to this mod, but helluva coincidence that you and I both noticed it for the first time today while playing this mod.

Do you have a better image of this?

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Marauderrr said:

 

Thank you for your suggestions, Nymra... and your time spent on this great mod. ☺️

Can't wait to see what comes next...

 

I'm running SE with ND and Defeat running together. Defeat's anims play fine, but with ND 3.0 they do not, they start then stop.

Other mods that start SL work fine as does 2.6. Wondering if there's an issue with load order changing or defeats anim filters getting in the way.

I usually have them all disabled. A new game had the same results, so maybe vortex changed load order?

 

I'll try checking LO and removing both , clean save and reinstalling.

 

 

it is a script problem in 3.0 BETA 1.

Reason is I never tested it WITHOUT FOllower
so basically what happens here is that the follower sex starts and tries to steal the actors from the player scene. 

Basically do not use BETA 3.0 without followers at the moment. 

will be fixed in BETA2 which might be released tonight. 

[ShenGo]

1 hour ago, bevo67 said:

Do you have a better image of this?

I didn't end up taking a screenshot of it, but if I encounter it again, I'll try to get one

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, bevo67 said:

I’ll try to get a better image - in the image posted there are black smudges that can be seen right (dark circular near PC head) and left - elongated running run from head diagonally downward away from PC) .. anyway, I’ll try to get a better image ..thanks! (You’re welcome for the flowers!)

 

I really have no clue what it could be. 
Maybe some magic effect mod of some sort. 

 

[ShenGo]

19 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

I really have no clue what it could be. 
Maybe some magic effect mod of some sort. 

 

It seems to be blood decals somehow exploding (I had no Apropos tats when it happened to me, I had just run straight to embershard after starting a fresh game while testing this). She didn't even have any clothes on, just blood decals from their attacks.

 

It's strange, though, because how can something that's not a mesh behave like an exploding mesh?

[Nymra]

42 minutes ago, ShenGo said:

It seems to be blood decals somehow exploding (I had no Apropos tats when it happened to me, I had just run straight to embershard after starting a fresh game while testing this). She didn't even have any clothes on, just blood decals from their attacks.

 

It's strange, though, because how can something that's not a mesh behave like an exploding mesh?

 

maybe because it is applied to a mesh? but no idea, rally. 
I was just wild guessing maybe its the "puppet" actor that Spank that ass is using, but I dunno if you have that mod or if that thing can receive textures.

Other than that: it is clearly not connected to Naked Defeat.
But feel free to report if the stuff only happens while in Naked Defeat or in a furniture of this mod.

[Marauderrr]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

it is a script problem in 3.0 BETA 1.

Reason is I never tested it WITHOUT FOllower
so basically what happens here is that the follower sex starts and tries to steal the actors from the player scene. 

Basically do not use BETA 3.0 without followers at the moment. 

will be fixed in BETA2 which might be released tonight. 

 

Ahh... thank you!

 

Your work is appreciated.

 

[ShenGo]

27 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

maybe because it is applied to a mesh? but no idea, rally. 
I was just wild guessing maybe its the "puppet" actor that Spank that ass is using, but I dunno if you have that mod or if that thing can receive textures.

Other than that: it is clearly not connected to Naked Defeat.
But feel free to report if the stuff only happens while in Naked Defeat or in a furniture of this mod.

Yeah, I didn't have that either. It's weird because as soon as the decals expire, the weird stretchy lines disappear.

 

Anyway, I too don't think it's related to this mod, but hell of a coincidence that he(she?) and I both saw it for the first time on the same day, during a Naked Defeat scene, lol.

[Nymra]

Small Update:

 

I decided to add a "Forced Bathing" option to the next BETA, hence the delay. 

I got it to work, but now I have to create suitable SLAL animations, too

 

I plan to start with

 

1 golden shower 2P (guy peeing on bound victim)

1 forced bathing 2P (guy pointing sword on washing victim)

 

both will trigger a "bath" event from Bathing in Skyrim.

Will only work for human actors and clean the Player before rape.

 

Will add a slider based chance for this to occur.

 

[Nymra]

Naked Defeat 3.0 BETA 2

 

DOWNLOAD BETA 3 instead !!! (is basically a fix to make FNIS anims work correctly)

 

Important:

- ONLY FOR LE (includes SLAL animations that need to be converted first)

- RUN FNIS! 

- Register Animations in SLAL (nade_HumanPee)

 

New: Defeat Pee/GoldenShower/Forced Bathing  Event:

Important 1: chance is on 0% by default. Set to 100% for testing.

- only works if human actors are around

- will play one Pee Scene after surrender (sexlab scene)

- requires Bathing in Skyrim (soft requirement) -> in this case the PC will be washed during the Golden Shower

- will add more bathing scenes in the future that do NOT include peeing (and a trigger to disable pee but allow forced washing)

 

Followers:

- Fixed the problem from BETA1 that SexScenes ended early

- Followers will be moved by Mod: Spank That Ass at the moment. no solution at this point sadly. you could disable furniture spank to prevent it.

- toggle for male and female follower rape (uncheck and your follower will only be bound).

 

RapeHands:

Now have a chance slider instead of just a on/off switch 

[Anunya]

Exciting times!

 

Looking forward to the SE version.

 

BTW, do you think it'd be relatively safe to upgrade in mid-game, or is a clean save recommended?

[Nymra]

25 minutes ago, Anunya said:

BTW, do you think it'd be relatively safe to upgrade in mid-game, or is a clean save recommended?

 

usually its no problem to update midgame. 

the only thing that could point towards a clean save might be required is when the bleedout does bug out (like you are downed and then stand up again immediatly) 

[Nymra]

Naked Defeat 3.0 BETA 3

 

same as BETA 2

 

FIX:

Updated Behavior file (was the wrong one)

 

ADDED:

- Forced Washing Animation 2P (based on bathing in skyrim anims)

 

 

BETA2 notes: 

Important:

- ONLY FOR LE (includes SLAL animations that need to be converted first)

- RUN FNIS! 

- Register Animations in SLAL (nade_HumanPee)

 

New: Defeat Pee/GoldenShower/Forced Bathing  Event:

Important 1: chance is on 0% by default. Set to 100% for testing.

- only works if human actors are around

- will play one Pee Scene after surrender (sexlab scene)

- requires Bathing in Skyrim (soft requirement) -> in this case the PC will be washed during the Golden Shower

- will add more bathing scenes in the future that do NOT include peeing (and a trigger to disable pee but allow forced washing)

 

Followers:

- Fixed the problem from BETA1 that SexScenes ended early

- Followers will be moved by Mod: Spank That Ass at the moment. no solution at this point sadly. you could disable furniture spank to prevent it.

- toggle for male and female follower rape (uncheck and your follower will only be bound).

 

RapeHands:

Now have a chance slider instead of just a on/off switch 

 

 

Naked Defeat 3-0 BETA3a.7z

[Nymra]

Naked Defeat 3.0 BETA 3 hotfix

 

FIXED:

- Rape again event while in furniture ("Your Captors want more") bugged out because of a missing FollowerCheck (only happens when there is no Follower around)

- RapeHands Chance Slider was bugged (1000% max...)

 

Known Bugs:
For me at the moment RapeHands do not get applied. I dunno why and I m still investigating.

All other tattoos work, including the cane marks... so I m a bit confused right now.

 

If you can, please test the RapeHands on your config and see if they work (in Naked Defeat Scenario).

Thx. 

 

Installation:

- just a patch, let it overwrite BETA3a

 

 

 

Naked Defeat 3-0 BETA3 Hotfix.7z