Naked Defeat LE

[isaactevess1]

Hello.

Not sure if anyone has written on this issue or not... But I have a problem in the MCM menu. How to fix it? As far as I understand, the problem is in the translation file. But how to deal with it?
 

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[Nymra]

4 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said:

Very good news, even if I probably will wait for a non beta version.

 

Please, could you consider a "game with NO creatures" setting? (Maybe it can avoid unnecessary scripts running).

 

I want to add toggles, yes. But it wont change the script load.

Naked Defeat has only one quest running that is basically the CORE since it handles essentiality and bleedout, so creatures or not will not make any difference there.

I also have no way to currently detect the aggressors on bleedout, only before the rape starts. So creatures, even when off, will still send you into bleedout surrender but then end the quest with the "run" message (will change the message to something more appropriate instead). 

 

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, isaactevess1 said:

Hello.

Not sure if anyone has written on this issue or not... But I have a problem in the MCM menu. How to fix it? As far as I understand, the problem is in the translation file. But how to deal with it?
 

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you have to go into the mod folder -> Interface/Translations 
and then make a copy of the Naked Defeat_ENGLISH.txt file and rename it to "Naked Defeat_yourLanguage"
that should fix it. 

 

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

  As Nicole i'd prefer at least not to switch from stable to experimental right now, but tell if you need somebody to test it urgent.^^

 

no no, no worries. But feedback in general speeds up development time. I can always fix issues later, too, but as with the DD problem in 2.4 and 2.5 sometimes it might take longer.

Especially when I enter new regions of code sorcery and parts that require blood sacrifices to work are always nasty, too

 

3 hours ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

That sounds... contradictive? Like, there are 2 humans, 2 wolves and 2 horses... having it 1 human, 2 creature 3 human would mean no horses?

 

at the moment I am just happy that its more variety than before. Stage 3 is only humans of there is a human group. So for example: 4 humans, 4 wolves, 4 horses should lead to 1. humans, 2. wolves, 4. horses
I m still working at the priorities, the possibilites make my head spin ^^

 

 

3 hours ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

 

Also... for chain rape with multiple actors, could you add a slider for "Max x times" or so? Regardless of poor horses, chainrape can be tiresome if it goes on too long. xD

 

3 times is max and even with chainrape on 100% you have a 50% chance to only see 2 scenes (its hardcoded for more variety). 

so basically the chainrape chance is there to customize this. I set it to 50% usually, so half of the times I have 1 Scene and half of the times i have 2 or 3 scenes. 

 

3 hours ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

or followers... having a slight clue about your taste, i really recommend Troubles of Heroine, it adds so many followers for all tastes that it really changed my opinion about them.  From brutal nasty orc that kills everything in your way and demands all kinds of nasty stuff to lusty female orc killing and fucking everything to total coward (with appropiate script = will flee in battles) but demands nasty shit from you to submissive males and females alike... there's a lot to choose from.^^

 

good point. I just noticed the mod offers that, but your descriptions sounds alot better even. 

Followers for me were just annoying in the past because they are so bad because of the NPC AI. Slow, unreliable, not supported by many mods, no HDT stuff because stretching etc. etc. But it seems there are now mods to fix all this, plus with Naked Defeat I have a reason to use a follower really

Will try that Ork Bitch, she sounds like fun, haha. 
I m a bit uncertrain here, tho. As dominant followers I prefer males, but in Defeat Scenes I like to see a female follower fucked, daamn
 

[Nymra]

6 minutes ago, Slava3434 said:

Good Work

 

Спасибо!

[NicoleDragoness]

22 minutes ago, Nymra said:

Followers for me were just annoying in the past because they are so bad because of the NPC AI. Slow, unreliable, not supported by many mods, no HDT stuff because stretching etc. etc. But it seems there are now mods to fix all this, plus with Naked Defeat I have a reason to use a follower really

 

Ai slow: maybe. Using an "intelligent" follower framework as Nether's one makes them more "lives". There is also the Serana Dialogue Addon (frequently updated) that "really" makes her a "living person who accompanies you".

 

Stretching HDT: it's a problem ONLY with the wrong settings. I made some substantial modifications that solved almos ALL my HDT problems:

1. Do not use Vsync (set iVsincPresentInterval=0 in the Skyrim.ini).

2. If you have LE 32bit, better to set your monitor to work at max 60 Hz even if capable of more.

3. Inside ALL xml files that control the various aspects of HDT stuffs like bodies, breast, genital, hairs --- > set ALL the "max linear velocity" and the "max angular velocity" to 255.

   No matter what the author made instead.

4. Use a "calibrated" realistic xml BBBP main file (you can find the best one, my opinion, in the ASDAF BHUNP body on Nexus. BTW, a wonderful Bodyslide body with realistic female genitals).

 

ATM, I have very very limited issues with HDT hairs (and only with hairs) and it happens, normally, when the game "moves" my char to his "correct" postion to do something like mining or laying down (where available, for example in the Campfire bedrolls). In those rare case I open the "showracemenu" console command, wait some seconds till the hairs "stabilize" and then all is normal again.

 

Another couple of cents.

[Nymra]

7 minutes ago, NicoleDragoness said:

 

Ai slow: maybe. Using an "intelligent" follower framework as Nether's one makes them more "lives". There is also the Serana Dialogue Addon (frequently updated) that "really" makes her a "living person who accompanies you".

 

Stretching HDT: it's a problem ONLY with the wrong settings. I made some substantial modifications that solved almos ALL my HDT problems:

1. Do not use Vsync (set iVsincPresentInterval=0 in the Skyrim.ini).

2. If you have LE 32bit, better to set your monitor to work at max 60 Hz even if capable of more.

3. Inside ALL xml files that control the various aspects of HDT stuffs like bodies, breast, genital, hairs --- > set ALL the "max linear velocity" and the "max angular velocity" to 255.

   No matter what the author made instead.

4. Use a "calibrated" realistic xml BBBP main file (you can find the best one, my opinion, in the ASDAF BHUNP body on Nexus. BTW, a wonderful Bodyslide body with realistic female genitals).

 

ATM, I have very very limited issues with HDT hairs (and only with hairs) and it happens, normally, when the game "moves" my char to his "correct" postion to do something like mining or laying down (where available, for example in the Campfire bedrolls). In those rare case I open the "showracemenu" console command, wait some seconds till the hairs "stabilize" and then all is normal again.

 

Another couple of cents.

 

thx alot!

very interesting information here. Will definatly work with that.

 

Just wonder: what is ASDAF BHUNP? I use Bakas BHUNP from Nexus, is there another version?

[NicoleDragoness]

This one, a little semplified version of BHUNP, less graphic demanding.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/106150

[NicoleDragoness]

WOW!

 

Your thread just became ... HOT!!!

[Nymra]

2 minutes ago, NicoleDragoness said:

WOW!

 

Your thread just became ... HOT!!!

 

we should celebrate this with some hot screenshots

 

[Nymra]

11 minutes ago, NicoleDragoness said:

Short clip of me fucked by Corpulus at the Winking Skeever:

 

 

wow, I admit the vagina looks quite stunning. And indeed a good bit more realistic than BHUNP pure.

 

Question tho: 
does this body also have thigh physics? 

on BHUNP they make me mad because you basically ONLY see them when they clip with thigh boots -.-

 

[NicoleDragoness]

Hmm, thigh ... leg's part between ass and knee, right?

I don't think it has physics here. Never had problems with several thighs armor pieces from Tawoba, for example. No clipping.

[Nazzzgul666]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

I m a bit uncertrain here, tho. As dominant followers I prefer males, but in Defeat Scenes I like to see a female follower fucked, daamn
 

Same, i'm having male followers for a while now... since i installed ToH^^ It's totally worth it in other regards too, though. The amount of quests added is almost overwhelming, and while many are rather short... the main page says it adds 170 000 lines of dialogue and i think that's outdated already xD It usually doesn't force you into anything, i think mostly because the author doesn't know how so a bit of roleplay is required most times but... all important parts work pretty nicely, considering the amount of stuff. For example, other than submissive Lola or DFC followers won't forcegreet you and demand stuff, you have to initiate a dialogue so they demand things. Not necessarily the worst option though.
The followers use the vanilla follower system so support shouldn't be the biggest issue at least. Physics... honestly it usually freaks out for me only, my followers usually work fine.^^ But i'm a noob in that regard and still play with the 2018 all-in-one.

What i strongly recommend though is Move it dammit. I can't really tell which version i have, according to Nexus i never even downloaded it and i thought i have a version of darconsole somewhere but i can't find it as download here. I didn't update it in years though and it just works.^^ I forgot to add it back into my loadorder when i made one from scratch and having followers without that mod was the most annoying thing.

For chain rape etc, yep, sounds all good. ❤️

[Nymra]

18 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

What i strongly recommend though is Move it dammit. I can't really tell which version i have, according to Nexus i never even downloaded it and i thought i have a version of darconsole somewhere but i can't find it as download here. I didn't update it in years though and it just works.^^ I forgot to add it back into my loadorder when i made one from scratch and having followers without that mod was the most annoying thing.
 

 

ahahhaa, oh yeah, sums up my own trauma back in 2016/17 when I not even had started with Sex mods... feel like I had a dozen mods like Move it damnit to get things going with that stupid Lydia.

Even had some mod to summon her via hotkey because she just decided to go lost here and there -.-

 

 

[Nazzzgul666]

14 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

ahahhaa, oh yeah, sums up my own trauma back in 2016/17 when I not even had started with Sex mods... feel like I had a dozen mods like Move it damnit to get things going with that stupid Lydia.

Even had some mod to summon her via hotkey because she just decided to go lost here and there -.-

 

 

That's not really an issue in my experience with vanilla AI followers. I mean, it... *is* so far that they might not be there when a battle starts and take long enough to get there that the battle is over before they arrive, but they shouldn't get actually lost. At some point they'll just be warped to you, not sure what is the condition. Distance, i think. With submissive Lola it can be a little problem as it has mechanics, that... well... you need to be close for the forcegreet to happen. You get a message that your follower wants to speak to you, but if you just jumped down a cliff and he runs around and is nowhere to be seen... by the time he arrives i usually get whipped as punishment. I can live with that though.

Having them essential is definitly a huge pro when you have no idea where they are and they start fighting two dragons! 

[NicoleDragoness]

40 minutes ago, Nazzzgul666 said:

What i strongly recommend though is Move it dammit.

 

I'm for a "definitive" solution even if not so realistic. I had this but not always it worked so ... "removed follower collision". As said, not fully realistic but solves a lot of problems with followers. They no longer "bump" into you when you stop, they don't clutter a little dungeon's corridor, they don't block a door, and ... amd ... and. Even fighting, considering that the vanilla combat system was programmed by a brain damaged idiot, is better that way. And when dismissed, they return "solid" as always (and stupid as always).

[Nazzzgul666]

5 hours ago, NicoleDragoness said:

 

I'm for a "definitive" solution even if not so realistic. I had this but not always it worked so ... "removed follower collision". As said, not fully realistic but solves a lot of problems with followers. They no longer "bump" into you when you stop, they don't clutter a little dungeon's corridor, they don't block a door, and ... amd ... and. Even fighting, considering that the vanilla combat system was programmed by a brain damaged idiot, is better that way. And when dismissed, they return "solid" as always (and stupid as always).

With my mod list that wouldn't work i guess... Having a dominant follower makes spank that ass for example just better having them bumping into you.^^ And that they stand in the way for a short moment is fine for me, i don't think i ever had them blocking something for long. And for short... it's a dominant follower, so... And i don't need easier battles either, that's what i have NADE for.

[schweinehund]

I've made my first test of Ver. 3.

 

After my defeat I got the Message to run and my Follower started to fight again. The sex-scene started for both of us and then she started fighting again and I went to the bound thing.

 

I didn't do a clean save. Loading a save after disabling ND, I'll get a 'this save is corrupt' Massage.

[Nymra]

2 minutes ago, schweinehund said:

I've made my first test of Ver. 3.

 

After my defeat I got the Message to run and my Follower started to fight again. The sex-scene started for both of us and then she started fighting again and I went to the bound thing.

 

I didn't do a clean save. Loading a save after disabling ND, I'll get a 'this save is corrupt' Massage.

 

hmm, might be a clean save issue then. 

I noticed weird things happening in my game when I did no clean save with this version, but it was mostly bleedout not working correctly. 
might be followers like that even less... 

But I have an idea what might be wrong here when your followers starts fighting again, will check that out, thx for the report. 

 

[悲しい少王女]

Huh, good for me I guess. The issue of not getting raped and getting only knocked out repeatedly disappeared after upgrading to the beta on the same save I had the problem on.

[Nymra]

22 minutes ago, 悲しい少王女 said:

Huh, good for me I guess. The issue of not getting raped and getting only knocked out repeatedly disappeared after upgrading to the beta on the same save I had the problem on.

 

hm, not sure I understand?
you mean the 3.0 BETA1? 
in that 3.0 b1 it should allow you to be downed 3 times (you get up unharmed) and only the 4th time starts rape.

[悲しい少王女]

Nono I meant I was using v2.6 before and when my hp got to 0 and I got into the knocked down state nothing would happen afterwards. I tried doing a clean save but after removing Naked defeat the save would become corrupt.
 

After updating to 3.0 beta though the defeat started working and properly started sex animation so all is good.

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, 悲しい少王女 said:

Nono I meant I was using v2.6 before and when my hp got to 0 and I got into the knocked down state nothing would happen afterwards. I tried doing a clean save but after removing Naked defeat the save would become corrupt.
 

After updating to 3.0 beta though the defeat started working and properly started sex animation so all is good.

 

hmm, not the ideal solution, lol
on the frontpage there is a description "debug" on how to reinstall Naked Defeat. meaning uninstall ND 2.6, clean save, reinstall 2.6 should fix the issue.

[ShenGo]

So far, I like this one. It's like defeat without all the fluff and confusing settings, makes you essential, and doesn't (as far as I can tell?) cause my male followers to get raped (which sometimes has happened with as many ways of disabling followers as I could think of, because there are multiple settings that can cause that in Defeat). But there are a couple features this needs, namely being able to disable certain creatures... For example, for some reason, Vampire Lords are game-breaking glitchy no matter what mod setup I've tried. And if followers ever get implemented, we'd definitely at least need to be able to disable them if we wish.

[Sydney]

Hey! Trying this now as a replacer for issue prone DA+defeat, and loving it so far, many thanks! It's really stable!

Some feedback, all of course imho!

 

Haven't tried the latest yet, will do v soon as for me, follower support is really really important!

 

I am finding that I am unable to change the playing animation (even with SLtools). Is this an intentional feature? If so, please can it be a toggle- different tastes n'all! It's already a part of sexlab too if I recall correctly.

 

Also, the really sexy voice that starts the second the player is captured- again, a toggle would be nice. Not <i>every</i> toon I play is necessarily aroused by capture!

Also, a toggle for if the player is aroused by the abuse, turning all aroused sounds off.
(Maybe one day an eventual alternate set of sounds for characters not into it at all).

 

Love that there are sliders for chances. Lets the player play exactly how they choose (and of course can change for different toons). The escape slider only goes to 50% though; more player choice is always better imho.

 

A toggle (or even %slider) would be nice for being punished by restraints. Atm, every bandit is Skyrim is carrying shock enchanted ropes!

 

I love the lack of dependences. Usually, having to install multiple mods that then have their own multiple dependences just to try... And then hours trying to get it to work! This was a real pleasure to get working with the absolute minimum of fuss!

 

Looking through the readme&scripts, seems there was a lot lot lot of interactions, dependences, variables and complications before. ?

 

Oh, lastly suggest changing the names of the bindings to something a bit more immersive.

 

Again, all just imho suggestions for options. Many thanks for your hard work on this great mod! ???