Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

9 hours ago, angelhunter said:

I finally got this to load without crashing but now when I try to use this origin it just loads the default "I want to escape from this cell" on. It fades to black for a minute and then I wake up in he default abandoned prison cell. Other origins work fine, it's just this one.

 

Is there a newer version I should be using? Are there requirements other than SexLab and ZaZ I'm missing?

Most likely an installation or load order issue. 

Wartimes should go after alternate start in your load order. Loot won't do this because it's dumb and AS is not a master for WT. 

 

Also make sure your zaz is up to date. 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Monoman1

[leakim]

I was wondering if anyone has experienced the following issue in relation to devious device removal with version 10.0 of the mod. 

 

Basically father became angry and put some devices on me (piercings + collar). I then ask him if he will remove them. I have enough favor according to the dialog (21), but when selecting the dialog option he simply says: "That depends. Have you been a good girl?" and then... nothing. No favor subtraction. no device removal. Just nothing. And the dialog ends.

 

Am I missing something? Is there some underlying mechanic of what it means to be a "Good girl" or is this a bug or perhaps an issue with my setup?

 

NOTE: I am running on a fresh startup where only version 10.0 has been installed (so no updates).

[Monoman1]

11 minutes ago, leakim said:

I was wondering if anyone has experienced the following issue in relation to devious device removal with version 10.0 of the mod. 

 

Basically father became angry and put some devices on me (piercings + collar). I then ask him if he will remove them. I have enough favor according to the dialog (21), but when selecting the dialog option he simply says: "That depends. Have you been a good girl?" and then... nothing. No favor subtraction. no device removal. Just nothing. And the dialog ends.

 

Am I missing something? Is there some underlying mechanic of what it means to be a "Good girl" or is this a bug or perhaps an issue with my setup?

 

NOTE: I am running on a fresh startup where only version 10.0 has been installed (so no updates).

Certain devices father won't remove because it doesn't make much sense for him. But your character still has the devious keyword which is why the dialogue is available to begin with. 

Devices I can remember he won't remove:

Collar: SLS magic curse. 'Light' device anyway. 

arm & leg cuffs: backup SLS magic curse in case the collar is already a quest collar: also light devices. 

Piercings: Why would he? He obviously likes piercings. On you. 

 

Stuff he removes is stuff that either blocks access to critical equipment (bra/belt) or devices that are debilitating (gag, armbinders, etc). 

[leakim]

Alright. Thank you. That explains it entirely. These were all "light" devices.

[momentomori99]

On 8/4/2021 at 5:33 AM, Silvain said:

 

Wartimes 10: Wartimes Tweak v10.0 (18-Feb-2022) SE.7z

SLS: Sexlab Survival 0.675 BETA (17-Feb-2022) SE fix.7z

 

Note: Dunno if there are new .json files that need converting for SE in new Wartimes version. Could someone do a quick test to see if everything works fine for those conversions? It's been a while so I don't know if I forgot something. Gonna leave the old versions up here till I get confirmation.

SLS gives me warnings about the hkx files being 32bit

[Silvain]

11 hours ago, momentomori99 said:

SLS gives me warnings about the hkx files being 32bit

 

Do you have the "fix" version or the old one?

 

FNIS gives me no error with the version you quoted in your post.

[Silvain]

On 2/22/2022 at 1:58 PM, Iroha said:

Voice pack for wartimes tweak 10.0.

pchsWartime[LE].rar 192.09 MB · 63 downloads

bsa should be repacked if SE, or unpacked to loose files.

 

Added the repack to the conversion post. Thanks again for making this.

[coffeeink]

hm i have a new SE setup and i have some strange issues with the Home Cell.

Depending on the viewing angle there is a lot of red/green/black Flickering ongoing.

 

i only have Cathedreal weather as "Lighting mod". no enb etc.

 

Did someone already encountered this?

 

I attached an example. it goes away if i change the camera.

Edited February 27, 2022 by coffeeink

[Monoman1]

3 minutes ago, coffeeink said:

hm i have a new SE setup and i have some strange issues with the Home Cell.

Depending on the viewing angle there is a lot of red/green Flickering ongoing.

 

i only have Cathedreal weather as "Lighting mod". no enb etc.

 

Did someone already encountered this?

Doesn't sound familiar. Look in whiterun stables. The 2 are practically the same.

[coffeeink]

8 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Doesn't sound familiar. Look in whiterun stables. The 2 are practically the same.

ok i checked whiterun stables. Here the glitching doesn't appear.

I use the Setup itself now for 3 months and it was stable. just this this cell is making issues...

 

can't explain it.

i attached a screenshot of the issue.

 

 

i assume that  i had in my old setup with ENB (issue was not there ~ august last year) that some lightning fix mod was enabled which is not exisitng currently

Edited February 27, 2022 by coffeeink

[safado]

 

@Monoman1

During the "Supply Run" quest/task first lewd run when "Father" remove clothing before kicking out of house, the "modesty" feature reequipped the clothes.

I think is the modesty feature, but I'm not sure.  Maybe doing the removal when the pc is out of the house could work.

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by safado

[safado]

3 hours ago, coffeeink said:

ok i checked whiterun stables. Here the glitching doesn't appear.

I use the Setup itself now for 3 months and it was stable. just this this cell is making issues...

 

can't explain it.

i attached a screenshot of the issue.

 

 

i assume that  i had in my old setup with ENB (issue was not there ~ august last year) that some lightning fix mod was enabled which is not exisitng currently

 

Besides NPC faces, these meshes are the only ones that are added by Wartime:

• AO_BBucket_Fill1.nif
• AO_BBucket_Fill1_Stat.nif
• AO_BBucket_Fill2.nif
• AO_BBucket_Fill2_Stat.nif
• BucketEmptyStatic.nif
• carrot01.nif
• carrot01.xml
• carrot01GO.nif
• Doll.nif
• Doll_Stat.nif
• flute01.nif
• flute01GO.nif
• flute02.nif
• flute02GO.nif
• mead01.nif
• mead01GO.nif
• mead02.nif
• mead02GO.nif
• Mirror.nif
• PuddleSmallWhite.nif

Try, running Cathedral_Assets_Optimizer to process Wartime mod folder with mesh "Full optimization" enabled.  Disable all the BSA base options. Check the log for errors.

Deploy the mod folder with the changes and if the issue persist it is not a Wartime mesh issue. 

Do the original bed for the PC got replaced with the ZAZ torture bed with bedroll on top?  Maybe is a ZAZ mesh corruption.

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by safado

[Monoman1]

6 hours ago, coffeeink said:

ok i checked whiterun stables. Here the glitching doesn't appear.

I use the Setup itself now for 3 months and it was stable. just this this cell is making issues...

 

can't explain it.

i attached a screenshot of the issue.

 

 

i assume that  i had in my old setup with ENB (issue was not there ~ august last year) that some lightning fix mod was enabled which is not exisitng currently

Hmm. Never saw that before. Since it seems localised I'd guess its a mesh but difficult to say with the stretching. Can you console click, disable it to help identify it? Or try the CAO thing saf said. 

4 hours ago, safado said:

 

@Monoman1

During the "Supply Run" quest/task first lewd run when "Father" remove clothing before kicking out of house, the "modesty" feature reequipped the clothes.

I think is the modesty feature, but I'm not sure.  Maybe doing the removal when the pc is out of the house could work.

 

Thought I turned modesty off. Must be another function somewhere. Unfortunately my pc is out of commission atm. 

[coffeeink]

h

5 hours ago, safado said:

 

Besides NPC faces, these meshes are the only ones that are added by Wartime:

• AO_BBucket_Fill1.nif
• AO_BBucket_Fill1_Stat.nif
• AO_BBucket_Fill2.nif
• AO_BBucket_Fill2_Stat.nif
• BucketEmptyStatic.nif
• carrot01.nif
• carrot01.xml
• carrot01GO.nif
• Doll.nif
• Doll_Stat.nif
• flute01.nif
• flute01GO.nif
• flute02.nif
• flute02GO.nif
• mead01.nif
• mead01GO.nif
• mead02.nif
• mead02GO.nif
• Mirror.nif
• PuddleSmallWhite.nif

Try, running Cathedral_Assets_Optimizer to process Wartime mod folder with mesh "Full optimization" enabled.  Disable all the BSA base options. Check the log for errors.

Deploy the mod folder with the changes and if the issue persist it is not a Wartime mesh issue. 

Do the original bed for the PC got replaced with the ZAZ torture bed with bedroll on top?  Maybe is a ZAZ mesh corruption.

 

Hm i do not think it's an asset issue.

No ZAZ stuff is currently not in place but if it would be an ZAZ mesh problem it would appear more often.

I redid CAO but it still is popping up

 

I found out that it's mostly always viewing angle in direction of "mothers room" and own room. to appear. The other vieewing angle looks safe.

 

Also none of this meshes is currently active except the doll.

 

I tend to think it's a ligthing/Shadow issue. (4 Lightsource issue or smth)

 

it's hard to show in screenshots but with glitching i mena rly freaking glitching with color changes etc. simetimes the black part is more red and green, and it's glitching on a high Frequency (not a static glitch)

It also getting bigger and smaler. it is realy glitchy

 

Maybe relevant => i play with ~>100 fps stable and Screenfixes ( => no Physic glitch) -> 100fps makes the script and story engine wy more smooth and a lot of scriptlaggy  mods tend to work way better.

 

[Iroha]

45 minutes ago, coffeeink said:

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Hm i do not think it's an asset issue.

No ZAZ stuff is currently not in place but if it would be an ZAZ mesh problem it would appear more often.

I redid CAO but it still is popping up

 

I found out that it's mostly always viewing angle in direction of "mothers room" and own room. to appear. The other vieewing angle looks safe.

 

Also none of this meshes is currently active except the doll.

 

I tend to think it's a ligthing/Shadow issue. (4 Lightsource issue or smth)

 

it's hard to show in screenshots but with glitching i mena rly freaking glitching with color changes etc. simetimes the black part is more red and green, and it's glitching on a high Frequency (not a static glitch)

It also getting bigger and smaler. it is realy glitchy

 

Maybe relevant => i play with ~>100 fps stable and Screenfixes ( => no Physic glitch) -> 100fps makes the script and story engine wy more smooth and a lot of scriptlaggy  mods tend to work way better.

 

try to install jaxons positioner.

after install conffigure it or left all by default. save.

1) open console and select closest lightsource to glitchpoint( start with candle on the table)

2) close console, hit NumEnter(default key), selected object will be highlighted. Delete object with configured positioner key (delete by default)

3) see if glitch is gone.

4) if not try to select and delete other lightsource.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Iroha

[coffeeink]

4 hours ago, Iroha said:

try to install jaxons positioner.

after install conffigure it or left all by default. save.

1) open console and select closest lightsource to glitchpoint( start with candle on the table)

2) close console, hit NumEnter(default key), selected object will be highlighted. Delete object with configured positioner key (delete by default)

3) see if glitch is gone.

4) if not try to select and delete other lightsource.

 

yes i forgot about Positioner. Perfect idea.

And rly the candles are the problem ... i delted them and glitches ar at least for the short test gone. Let's see on the long run.

 

 

[safado]

6 hours ago, coffeeink said:

 

yes i forgot about Positioner. Perfect idea.

And rly the candles are the problem ... i delted them and glitches ar at least for the short test gone. Let's see on the long run.

 

 

 

If it is the candles/light source, then it is likely a light replacement mod conflict, some high poly mesh replacement mods that also replace lanterns and candles could mess up the light records.  I have experienced weird effects if multiple light replacement mods get combined meshes and the metadata may not be compatible with each other, even with a bash and may need manual load positioning or manual patching.  It also happens with multiple NPC replacement, where the skin textures and the color templates do not match. 

 

Not related to the issue, but important;  Make sure Wartime plugin load after Alternate start(LAL) and your light mods, because one of the scenarios needs to change the ownership of a house cell(is minor change and not far from lore)  and mods that load after wartime can and will roll back the change.  Light mods tend to be at the end of the load list.

 

Specific cell entry: ChillfurrowFarm "Chillfurrow Farm" [CELL:00016204]

Needs the Ownership entry be : "ChillfurrowFarmFaction [FACT:0010DE9D]" instead of "Wilmuth "Wilmuth" [NPC_:0009CCD9]"

 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by safado

[safado]

10 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Thought I turned modesty off. Must be another function somewhere. Unfortunately my pc is out of commission atm. 

 

It is a minor issue. I just roll-play-it and undress manually.

 

Hope your PC issue is not the GPU.

?

Edited February 27, 2022 by safado

[manafalls]

How do you assign tasks to the Paradise Halls slaves?

[safado]

14 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Thought I turned modesty off. Must be another function somewhere. Unfortunately my pc is out of commission atm. 

 

Tried the supply run again, and it fails to remove the equipped outfit.   Re-did it using a save before activating the door, and it was successful at removing the equipped outfit.   Latency maybe or a mod getting in the way. 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by safado

[tygct]

14 hours ago, coffeeink said:

h

Hm i do not think it's an asset issue.

No ZAZ stuff is currently not in place but if it would be an ZAZ mesh problem it would appear more often.

I redid CAO but it still is popping up

 

I found out that it's mostly always viewing angle in direction of "mothers room" and own room. to appear. The other vieewing angle looks safe.

 

Also none of this meshes is currently active except the doll.

 

I tend to think it's a ligthing/Shadow issue. (4 Lightsource issue or smth)

 

it's hard to show in screenshots but with glitching i mena rly freaking glitching with color changes etc. simetimes the black part is more red and green, and it's glitching on a high Frequency (not a static glitch)

It also getting bigger and smaler. it is realy glitchy

 

Maybe relevant => i play with ~>100 fps stable and Screenfixes ( => no Physic glitch) -> 100fps makes the script and story engine wy more smooth and a lot of scriptlaggy  mods tend to work way better.

 

 

I had that problem too, in my case it was due to the cum meshes appearing after sex, those cum meshes stretching was a bad conversion, it seems that CAO (for some reason) did not the job for them, you can fix it easily using SSE NIF Optimizer, run it and let it convert the cum meshes to SE. If I remember correctly it was "PuddleSmallWhite", but just to be sure run the optimizer for all meshes.

Edited February 28, 2022 by tygct

[manafalls]

2 hours ago, tygct said:

 

I had that problem too, in my case it was due to the cum meshes appearing after sex, those cum meshes stretching was a bad conversion, it seems that CAO (for some reason) did not the job for them, you can fix it easily using SSE NIF Optimizer, run it and let it convert the cum meshes to SE. If I remember correctly it was "PuddleSmallWhite", but just to be sure run the optimizer for all meshes.

 

 

Safado posted an already fixed version here, if you want to save yourself the trouble:

 

 

[Monoman1]

16 hours ago, safado said:

 

Tried the supply run again, and it fails to remove the equipped outfit.   Re-did it using a save before activating the door, and it was successful at removing the equipped outfit.   Latency maybe or a mod getting in the way. 

 

 

I'll do another speed run. See what happens. 

20 hours ago, safado said:

Hope your PC issue is not the GPU.

No, thank Beelzebub's buttocks. 

Hate to be GPU shopping right now. At the rate things are going I'll probably be buried with my 2080. 

Stupid bitcoin.

19 hours ago, manafalls said:

How do you assign tasks to the Paradise Halls slaves?

You wait for Father to propose the idea then there should be a new dialog option under 'Father?' - 'I've brought you a new toy to play with'

The PAH slaves need to be equipped with a leash collar which is a good way of throttling the pace you can add slaves at. 

[safado]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Stupid bitcoin.

 

 

Not Bitcoin, it is Ethereum and the others.

Bitcoin needs custom hardware SOC, because GPU solution not efficient now.

 

Yeah, kind of same difference.  ?

 

[OlBenny]

Hihi!  Might there be a console command to advance the stage for Alternate Start?  I'm using 10.0 (LE), I've talked to the statue, she says "No one is safe in war" bit after I've selected "I'm a daughter [...]", but the quest doesn't complete to where I can then use the bed and be ported to the pchsWartimesHome.  When I select the bed, it comes back with "Sleep is the last thing on my mind".  I am on a brand new game, using the latest version of Alternate Start, Zaz, I have the Tes5EditMerged built, and 10.0 is loading after LAL in my load order.  For the sake of science, I did try 4.2 and it completed just fine to the next stage.

Additionally, the Cum Pools MCM isn't select-able for me, although it appears to be so.  Also, changing father's dick size in the MCM, after I change it, it goes back to zero after I go back to the MCM.