Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[OlBenny]

Hi Monoman1!  So, indeed, for me it's these three things that I can't configure for some odd reason:
 

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I just can't figure seem to figure it out.  In my game, the above also show as-is as default:  that father's cock size is 0, the NPC Sex Change is 0, and Cum Pools is untoggled.  When I try to adjust the first two, I can access the submenu, change the values, but after I close them to go back to the MCM, they show zero again.  For the Cum Pools, no matter what I do, I cannot toggle that on.  I've tried with my mouse, with the enter key, I've tried hold it down for like 20-30 seconds; I've tried selecting it, saving, and then reloading save, but, nope, still shows deselected. 

By default, what are the values of the Father's Cock Size and NPC Sex Change?  Are they in-fact zero?  And, for Cum Pools, by default is that disabled?  If they are, and most importantly, is there a way to configure them manually outside of the MCM?  On Cum Pools, I've tried "setstage pchsCumPoolsQuest to 1", but that comes back with "Stage 1 not found".  But, that's just me shooting shots in the dark.

By the way, everything else in MCM for Wartimes, can be configured or toggled, it's just these three things.

Edited March 5, 2022 by OlBenny

[Monoman1]

19 hours ago, kapibar said:

I wanted to take a look at what you came up with and I feel the latest version is less robust than its predecessor. For instance some forcegreets are missing - two times I didn't get the forcegreet that I need to buy supplies. The info just appeared in the diary to get the gold and that was that. The other time I not only didn't get that forcegreet, but also father didn't initiate the dialogue for sex. For a first time the supply run is done naked, there's is no "through the door" conversation with father. Just the usual pop-up about the hood.

Nothings changed in that regard AFAIK. Supply run is a FG on the FG stack. Same as all the other FG task intros. 

What can happen is you'll get one FG, say food confiscation or forbidden items (contraception) and then the regular FG stack FG will play directly afterwards. This can be a bit buggy as the dialogue can get mangled somehow (bethesda jank IMO). Same thing used to happen when you entered the house and aldo was horny. His FG would fire immediately, get bugged and exit as if you tabbed out. 

 

I'm not bothered fighting bethesda jank tbh. 

19 hours ago, kapibar said:

Also, while the beating punishment is self-explanatory, equipping deviced feels like a cursed loot or deviously enslaved event. The feature is nice, but there's no personal aspect to it, which I feel is a missed opportunity.

Well the dialogue was rushed but I don't know what you're suggesting...

 

(Also, personal touches take more time)

 

2 hours ago, OlBenny said:

Hi Monoman1!  So, indeed, for me it's these three things that I can't configure for some odd reason:
 

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I just can't figure seem to figure it out.  In my game, the above also show as-is as default:  that father's cock size is 0, the NPC Sex Change is 0, and Cum Pools is untoggled.  When I try to adjust the first two, I can access the submenu, change the values, but after I close them to go back to the MCM, they show zero again.  For the Cum Pools, no matter what I do, I cannot toggle that on.  I've tried with my mouse, with the enter key, I've tried hold it down for like 20-30 seconds; I've tried selecting it, saving, and then reloading save, but, nope, still shows deselected. 

By default, what are the values of the Father's Cock Size and NPC Sex Change?  Are they in-fact zero?  And, for Cum Pools, by default is that disabled?  If they are, and most importantly, is there a way to configure them manually outside of the MCM?  On Cum Pools, I've tried "setstage pchsCumPoolsQuest to 1", but that comes back with "Stage 1 not found".  But, that's just me shooting shots in the dark.

By the way, everything else in MCM for Wartimes, can be configured or toggled, it's just these three things.

I've explained cock size before - the actor needs to be initialized by SOS first. Honestly, I might just remove that control. 

 

The others - I'll probably need a log at this point. They work ok for me. 

 

Defaults are (there's a button for that btw but it needs to be set up in the script): 11, 100, on.

2 hours ago, tamai said:

idk if this is an issue at all but when you use the open mouth key, shouldn't it show your tongue? if not is there a way i can do that

You keep asking questions in the wrong threads

It should. I don't know about the manual control (haven't use it in a while) but SLS ahegao was working ok for me the other day. Though vibration ahegao was lasting longer than expected. 

Tongue also won't show while gagged. They use the same slot. 

Edited March 5, 2022 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, tamai said:

 

oops my apologies ^^; i just see survival and wartimes really as just one big mod sometimes, ill be more careful. mhmm it works as intended just the default open mouth key alone doesn't have any tongue in the mouth.

Mmm, AFAIR. Open mouth doesn't automatically stick out your tongue. Stick out tongue automatically opens your mouth though IIRC. 

[GIJ]

I am unable to walk dogs for brumbar. I am using the SE version; is there a patch I need to download?

 

[safado]

4 minutes ago, GIJ said:

I am unable to walk dogs for brumbar. I am using the SE version; is there a patch I need to download?

 

 

It triggers when activating/opening the cage door(specific to the cage door) after Brumbar job acceptance dialogue.  It is that what is failing?

 

If you are able to trigger and choose an option to get inside, then it will only trigger the next step if naked and activating rug in the middle of cage.  It may only appear during scene.

 

 

[GIJ]

2 minutes ago, safado said:

 

It triggers when activating/opening the cage door(specific to the cage door) after Brumbar job acceptance dialogue.  It is that what is failing?

 

If you are able to trigger and choose an option to get inside, then it will only trigger the next step if naked and activating rug in the middle of cage.  It may only appear during scene.

 

 

Well, thats the issue, I am not seeing any cages. 

[Monoman1]

22 minutes ago, GIJ said:

Well, thats the issue, I am not seeing any cages. 

You are probably using an out of date zaz

[kapibar]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Nothings changed in that regard AFAIK. Supply run is a FG on the FG stack. Same as all the other FG task intros.

Ah, so it's just Skyrim being Skyrim. Understood.

 

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Well the dialogue was rushed but I don't know what you're suggesting...

 

(Also, personal touches take more time)

Yeah, I know "fan requests" are bothersome.

Anyway, what I had in mind is something more along the Leon quest, where father would punish you wearing the devices for a specific time. For a "personal touch" a pop-up window saying something like "father punishes you for doing/not doing a thing with a set of devices that you need to wear for x time, otherwise he'll get even more angry with you". So, nothing too fancy.

Btw.: I still believe father should force daughter to wear a ring/panel gag permanently. You said it would be problematic since tasks are started by the dialogue, but few mods solved it by making NPCs able to understand gag talk (I know Laura and Dollmaker are such NPCs). And for the forcegreet dialogues, at later stages PC doesn't have anything intresting or influencial to say, so you could just as well change the response to "nod confirmingly" and "shake your head in contradiction".

Edited March 5, 2022 by kapibar

[adle]

Hello,

 

shot question. I'm playing this mod and try to get fathers slave wife. Player is already pregnant via beeing female.

As soon as she is in labor, father approaches her with the slave wife dialogue. After she agress, he leave her alone.

So i tried both, give birth to an child actor, or to child/baby item. But after the birth, there is no dialogue to hand them over. Its just another normal day. 

Its like im stuck in a loop. Does anyone have a solution? 

Im playing on SE with the monoman version of wartime

 

looking forward for your help

 

Sincerely 

Edited March 5, 2022 by adle

[Monoman1]

Just now, adle said:

After she agress, he leave her alone.

I think that's the idea right? Spoiler:

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If you agree to be his slave you get to keep your baby. I think that's pretty much the end of that part of the mod and hasn't been expanded on. 

 

Again the scope of this mod is insane. It's got a lot as it is but it could have so much more as well.

[adle]

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

I think that's the idea right? Spoiler:

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If you agree to be his slave you get to keep your baby. I think that's pretty much the end of that part of the mod and hasn't been expanded on. 

 

Again the scope of this mod is insane. It's got a lot as it is but it could have so much more as well.

ah okay thanks. thought there would be an slave wife ending after that, or that i can hand the kid over. but nothing happened at all. so thats the end. Are you planning on continue?

[Monoman1]

Just now, adle said:

ah okay thanks. thought there would be an slave wife ending after that, or that i can hand the kid over. but nothing happened at all. so thats the end. Are you planning on continue?

No plans at present I'm afraid. 

 

6 hours ago, kapibar said:

So, nothing too fancy.

Mmm. Not sure I'm keen on this. Simply because there's going to be overlap. And anytime you've overlap you're going to get complication (and bugs). Besides there is already the devious requirements isn't there? To wear cuffs/boots/gloves/piercings. The problem is YPS really. I think you use YPS too. But YPS has SO many conditions on being able to do things. If you start adding requirements to wear Devious things then you'll never be able to do YPS things. And I don't really like tackling the tangled knot of those conditions in YPS. 

 

I might be able to do the gag thing but I'll also have to add more condition checking because I'm pretty sure you can't wear lipstick while gagged...

 

So you kind of need to think about which you want. YPS or Devious. They're kind of mutually exclusive as far as wartimes is concerned. 

[kapibar]

13 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

The problem is YPS really.

I think you're one of the very, very few moders in this community that actually tackled YPS in any way. Which is extremely appreciated, it's an awesome mod, but underused because of the way it does things.

As for the lipstick while gagged - I wasn't sure, so I checked. And damn, you're right. YPS not only makes it impossible to apply/remove lipstick. It also recognizes that the PC is gagged. Nevermind then, it really would be too much of a hassle to deal with so many complcation just for a simple aestethic thing.

[Monoman1]

Just now, kapibar said:

I think you're one of the very, very few moders in this community that actually tackled YPS in any way. Which is extremely appreciated, it's an awesome mod, but underused because of the way it does things.

As for the lipstick while gagged - I wasn't sure, so I checked. And damn, you're right. YPS not only makes it impossible to apply/remove lipstick. It also recognizes that the PC is gagged. Nevermind then, it really would be too much of a hassle to deal with so many complcation just for a simple aestethic thing.

I suppose if I really wanted to I could check your makeup and if it's bad and you've got something blocking it then add dialogue to father to ask to remove the blocking device temporarily so that you can fix your makeup. I dunno though. Sounds laborious gameplay wise. And kind of complicated script wise.

[GIJ]

10 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

You are probably using an out of date zaz

Ah I see, thank you for your assistance. For running current SE ZAZ, could I find it through the search bar, or would it be in a forum or something?

[Monoman1]

Just now, GIJ said:

Ah I see, thank you for your assistance. For running current SE ZAZ, could I find it through the search bar, or would it be in a forum or something?

Mmm. I'd wait for one of the SE guys to answer. Don't know much about SE. But I think I'm using version 8 of Zaz.

[safado]

1 hour ago, GIJ said:

Ah I see, thank you for your assistance. For running current SE ZAZ, could I find it through the search bar, or would it be in a forum or something?

 

ZAZ 8+(2018) revision 3 for Skyrim SE:  Support and files

 

Direct to files

• CBBE SE:  Full + bodyslide
  • 3BA Bodyslide only:  (credit Pling94,unknown creator) Requires CBBE SE version and 3BA body
• UUNP SE:  Full + bodyslide
  • BHUNP Bodyslide files only: (credit FactoryClose) requires UUNP SE version and BHUNP body

 

 

note: chain physics are for Skyrim Le and do not work yet in the Skyrim SE version. Static weird behavior from chains is at the moment normal.

 

Edited March 5, 2022 by safado

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I suppose if I really wanted to I could check your makeup and if it's bad and you've got something blocking it then add dialogue to father to ask to remove the blocking device temporarily so that you can fix your makeup. I dunno though. Sounds laborious gameplay wise. And kind of complicated script wise.

The other option would be to use the same solution you introduced for the nail polish - it's ignored after boots and gloves become a requirement. If you force the daughter to wear gag at 100 submission, she would already be pretty deep into the fashion addiction, which means more or less that the PC would be forced to wear makeup for the rest of the gameplay, or suffer a damaging debuff. Which is pretty much the point.

[Darkwing241]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I suppose if I really wanted to I could check your makeup and if it's bad and you've got something blocking it then add dialogue to father to ask to remove the blocking device temporarily so that you can fix your makeup. I dunno though. Sounds laborious gameplay wise. And kind of complicated script wise.

Sometimes it's better to just roleplay through super difficult to mod stuff.  

 

[Anunya]

15 hours ago, kapibar said:

Btw.: I still believe father should force daughter to wear a ring/panel gag permanently. You said it would be problematic since tasks are started by the dialogue, but few mods solved it by making NPCs able to understand gag talk (I know Laura and Dollmaker are such NPCs). And for the forcegreet dialogues, at later stages PC doesn't have anything intresting or influencial to say, so you could just as well change the response to "nod confirmingly" and "shake your head in contradiction".

 

While I like the implication, anything involving long term gag use should ideally consider people using needs mods. Wouldn't want daughter to die of thirst / starve to death.

[DevilFIN]

Probably not caused by this mod (alone), but on several occasions I've realized at some point that Wartimes MCM has disappeared. Does anyone know what could cause this? 

[jperrins66]

Just thought I'd put in a couple of requests if you ever fancied adding a bit more, could you add the option to request the dog/horse/guard/maid tasks directly from themselves once the main mod is done ( cause for me it seems a waste to have them but not use them afterwards ) and add in father as a innkeeper type (or whatever is needed) for the purpose of using radiant prostitution so he can whore you out for money please.

[safado]

6 hours ago, DevilFIN said:

Probably not caused by this mod (alone), but on several occasions I've realized at some point that Wartimes MCM has disappeared. Does anyone know what could cause this? 

 

 

 

 Try, and wait for refresh. It will re-init the MCM listing.

setStage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1

 

SkyUI MCM has a 128 list limit.  How many mods you have listed in MCM?

Do not know your issue, but if you have128 listed mods, then it is likely others got off list.

 

Patch for more than 128 limits.

Original Patch is this post.

Newer based on original.:   Site is not Loverslab  Google: 370-skyui-se-mcm-limit-upgraded-patch

 

There's also the "SkyUI - Troubleshooting" in steamcommunity.com

 

 

 

Edited March 6, 2022 by safado

[kapibar]

On 3/6/2022 at 1:09 AM, Anunya said:

 

While I like the implication, anything involving long term gag use should ideally consider people using needs mods. Wouldn't want daughter to die of thirst / starve to death.

I use needs mod. And this shouldn't be a problem since father is taking away all the food from the inventory (daughter is on a strict diet).

Edit: Few hours into the gameplay and I don't see anything different about the supply run. @Monoman1 would you be so kind and spoil the surprise? I don't know if anything should happen or when.

Edited March 7, 2022 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

6 hours ago, kapibar said:

Edit: Few hours into the gameplay and I don't see anything different about the supply run. @Monoman1 would you be so kind and spoil the surprise? I don't know if anything should happen or when.

 

Regular supply runs (up to naked) will run until...

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You give father a blowjob. After which belethor will figure out who you are and begin extorting you. 

 

You can probably fast forwards by setting the pcgaveblowjob var to 1 and do StartQuest pchsSupplyRunQuest and keep starting the quest when finished. At least that's how I speed test it. 

 

further spoilers

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Belethor will demand a blowjob or he'll expose you to the town. Being exposed means you'll pay very high prices in whiterun so you should try not to. 

 

After a couple of blowjobs, belethor will demand you fuck his dog out in the street for all to see (if bestiality is enabled). Failure to do so = exposure.

 

After fucking the dog a couple of times Father will stop giving you a hood for the run thus forcing you to expose yourself. Belethor will agree to keep his prices the same and give you access to his 'special stock' as long as you continue to suck his dick. Failure to do so means you've effectively nowhere in whiterun to buy/sell stuff.