Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, tamai said:

yes its the first supply quest where he gives you the mask i completely it and go back to the door but its not activatable. for me at least

Ok but on your first naked supply run Belethor shouldn't be asking for sex? So I'm confused...

 

Looking at the code it looks like the only thing that'd block the door dialogue would be if the door wasn't locked. If it's not locked then lock it via the console. 

Target the door and use 'lock 255'

[Monoman1]

11 minutes ago, tamai said:

 

well basically as soon as mother was taken away, i asked father what can i do to bring her back. and then it goes into the whole scenerio where you're a breeder. and for me yea the dialogue became available and the door was locked.

Hmm ok. Looks like becoming his breeder so early on is pushing up your depravity then when the supply run starts;

 

Function TrapDoors()
    If pchsSupplyRunProg.GetValue() == 0.0 && (pchsPcGaveBlowjob.GetValue() >= 1.0 || pchsPcDepravity.GetValue() >= 5.0)

 

I'm going to remove the depravity condition. 

Set depravity below 5 and restart the supply run. 

 

That dialogue though to get mother back is going to have to get some kind of prerequisite and I'm leaning heavily towards 1000 gold. 

 

Also: I've noticed modesty is not shut off. I could have sworn I did that. Unless I'm confusing it with devious sub (favor for equipping devices)

Edited March 15, 2022 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

1 minute ago, tamai said:

'set pchsPcDepravity to 5'

Yes, this. 

not 5 though. Lower!

Edited March 15, 2022 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

posted 10.3

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

posted 10.3

>- Getting Mother back limbless now costs 2000 gold. Only fair since it saves you gold in the long run.

I'm starting to think you have a really warped concept of fairness ?.

[Silvain]

Updated my SE post with a quick 10.3 and SLS 6.85 conversion. Maybe at some point I should consider opening a proper thread for those.

 

As always untested (even though I'm updating my mods right now thanks to Monomans updates dragging me back to Skyrim....)

 

[kapibar]

I just realized there's one thing that bugs the hell out of me. Provided the PC finds her mother and talks to her, she is instructed to run to her uncle. Then she is enslaved via SD, but the mother simply comes back to the father like nothing happened. In fact, she walks out of her slavery as soon as conversation with the daughter ends and simply goes home. This is so ridiculously unimmersive I can't even. It's like the whole thing has never happened, mother is back, the player can run from the uncle and come back to her normal life. It would be great if this could be addressed in one of the future updates. Pretty please.

[safado]

6 hours ago, Silvain said:

Updated my SE post with a quick 10.3 and SLS 6.85 conversion. Maybe at some point I should consider opening a proper thread for those.

 

As always untested (even though I'm updating my mods right now thanks to Monomans updates dragging me back to Skyrim....)

 

 

@Silvain

Maybe asking @nomkaz to close his unofficial conversion to SE "Wartimes - a daughter's tale (Alternate start scenario) SE 1.5" or redirect to maintained version.  Because people already are getting confused about bugs in old converted version and will be more if another version is added to the SkyimSE side.

 

 

 

[nomkaz]

3 hours ago, safado said:

 

@Silvain

Maybe asking @nomkaz to close his unofficial conversion to SE "Wartimes - a daughter's tale (Alternate start scenario) SE 1.5" or redirect to maintained version.  Because people already are getting confused about bugs in old converted version and will be more if another version is added to the SkyimSE side.

 

 

 

Actually, my conversion is "Official" and and approved by the original mod author. I update it when the mod author updates the original version. If someone else gets permissions and elects to upload an SE version with more fixes, they are more than welcome to. Then I will have a reason to take mine down.

[OlafOlafOlaf2]

For some reasen, even through father finished, I still get the notification "failed to satisfy father (-6 favor)" or something similar (hand job), I'm using SLSLO, any idea how to fix this? Has this been reported before?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, OlafOlafOlaf2 said:

For some reasen, even through father finished, I still get the notification "failed to satisfy father (-6 favor)" or something similar (hand job), I'm using SLSLO, any idea how to fix this? Has this been reported before?

Is 'Use separate orgasms' enabled in the sexlab Mcm?

13 hours ago, kapibar said:

I just realized there's one thing that bugs the hell out of me. Provided the PC finds her mother and talks to her, she is instructed to run to her uncle. Then she is enslaved via SD, but the mother simply comes back to the father like nothing happened. In fact, she walks out of her slavery as soon as conversation with the daughter ends and simply goes home. This is so ridiculously unimmersive I can't even. It's like the whole thing has never happened, mother is back, the player can run from the uncle and come back to her normal life. It would be great if this could be addressed in one of the future updates. Pretty please.

Maybe later. Haven't looked much at the alternate endings. 

[Monoman1]

Here's a random thought. Should Father gradually 'get bored' of you. Which would make things more difficult and eventually end up in being tossed out permanently. 

I was thinking reduce maximum favor cap by say 2/3/4 a day. 

If set to 4 then max favour cap would be basically halved in 2 weeks...

Perhaps a reduce favour cap per day setting and a minimum favour cap setting. 

 

It's become 'easy enough' to keep the home and access to those sweet licences. Player should be ditched eventually into the big bad world without licences/bed/ + probably a devious follower in tow. 

 

Perhaps only after pregnancy has finished. 

 

Or start multiplying the usual favour gain by decreasing amounts. Less favour for the same tasks. 

Edited March 16, 2022 by Monoman1

[kapibar]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Here's a random thought. Should Father gradually 'get bored' of you. Which would make things more difficult and eventually end up in being tossed out permanently. 

 

Actually just today I exited WT and fuck me, it's really hard to screw things up and get tossed out considering how many favour boosts PC receives. Fashion gives 5-6 favours on every check easy. Then there are those little tasks. You'd have to make a concious effort to do shit wrong, so your idea is great.

But - here's another perspective - father spends shitload of time planning to mold the daughter into a perfect slut. I don't think he'd just got rid of a slave girl just because he's bored. I believe a guy like this would first secure a replacement bitch (which he can't do because he never leaves the house). So in my opinion it'd be cool if father gave daughter a task to find him a new toy that would be her replacement. PC would tie a knot on which she will hang.

[reae]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Here's a random thought. Should Father gradually 'get bored' of you. Which would make things more difficult and eventually end up in being tossed out permanently.

 

Either that (I'm not exactly for it, a toggle to switch it off, please) or...

 

Why kick out, when you can whore out?

 

Less favor for mundane tasks, more for "professional" performance.

If Mother is not home yet, then Daddy can simply start really whore PC out, like PW or RP plus some licenses provided or making some shows (why not ending every party by making it with Aldo to amuse guests even more. Twice.) or sending PC to come clients for the night/ letting someone come and play at Home. *

If Mom is back and caged, AFAIK Father wants a child of his own, meaning after giving him a child, Daddy could give a choice of selling PC into slavery, kicking PC out or continuing as servant/ slave whore etc., depending on submissiveness, depravity and favor.

* - I know making scenes is time consuming and prone for ending up broken.

[safado]

12 hours ago, OlafOlafOlaf2 said:

For some reasen, even through father finished, I still get the notification "failed to satisfy father (-6 favor)" or something similar (hand job), I'm using SLSLO, any idea how to fix this? Has this been reported before?

 

Do you mean finished sexlab animation without orgasm?  or with orgasm?   If orgasm are not occurring with SLSO then try to disable orgasm conditions in the general tab of the SLSO MCM and maybe raise the timer for the stage 2/3 animations.   "failed to satisfy father (-6 favor)" generally means no orgasm.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2022 by safado

[lorddenorstrus]

@Monoman1 Any idea why the UI Extension menu for WT might not be working, but Survivals submenu is?  I have everything working from Survivals and it even accesses SGOs submenu wheel.  I just can't figure out why WTs won't work.  I tried rebinding the key from Y but it just doesn't bring anything up.   I just came back to try out some of the new changes and I recall it working with an older version of WT.  I have done something wrong.,,,

 

Do I have to progress WT to a certain state to access the menu?  I was trying to use it to add clothing to the Outfits.json   : Self answered question by progressing to the point it became accessible.  lmfao.  That was the first time I tried to use the menu before then so I got so confused.  

 

Sidenote ; Thanks for adding the fast travel point.  I legit had Lauras Bondage shop added because it was across the street and was using it to fast travel home for the longest time.  I forgot to mention that when I tried out an earlier update and noticed it.  I'm sorry but yeah im a lazy fast travel guy.  

Edited March 17, 2022 by lorddenorstrus
Because i can.

[neneXgod]

58 minutes ago, lorddenorstrus said:

@Monoman1 Any idea why the UI Extension menu for WT might not be working, but Survivals submenu is?  I have everything working from Survivals and it even accesses SGOs submenu wheel.  I just can't figure out why WTs won't work.  I tried rebinding the key from Y but it just doesn't bring anything up.   I just came back to try out some of the new changes and I recall it working with an older version of WT.  I have done something wrong.,,,

 

Do I have to progress WT to a certain state to access the menu?  I was trying to use it to add clothing to the Outfits.json   : Self answered question by progressing to the point it became accessible.  lmfao.  That was the first time I tried to use the menu before then so I got so confused.  

 

Sidenote ; Thanks for adding the fast travel point.  I legit had Lauras Bondage shop added because it was across the street and was using it to fast travel home for the longest time.  I forgot to mention that when I tried out an earlier update and noticed it.  I'm sorry but yeah im a lazy fast travel guy.  

I'm lazy too so I just use Atlas Map Markers to teleport directly to Belethor's General Goods.

[Monoman1]

14 hours ago, kapibar said:

Actually just today I exited WT and fuck me, it's really hard to screw things up and get tossed out considering how many favour boosts PC receives. Fashion gives 5-6 favours on every check easy. Then there are those little tasks. You'd have to make a concious effort to do shit wrong, so your idea is great.

WTs favour system is basically an economy. It's difficult to balance that economy based on what mods the user has installed. I hate to say it but without SLS installed there isn't much to spend that favour on. I suppose I could also add a global favour multiplier so people can adjust it to their own mod list. 

14 hours ago, reae said:

Why kick out, when you can whore out?

 

Less favor for mundane tasks, more for "professional" performance.

That's a great idea. The problem of course is I either need:

A) to create an entire prostitution mod on top of WT or

B) somehow hook into an existing prostitution mod.

Both are a fairly unpalatable and a big commitment. 

5 hours ago, neneXgod said:

I'm lazy too so I just use Atlas Map Markers to teleport directly to Belethor's General Goods.

Ah just be careful teleporting everywhere is bound to break something eventually. All kinds of triggers can be between you and the destination that never accounted for a teleporting PC. I use the console to speed test WT but I know how it works (mostly). 

[kapibar]

32 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

WTs favour system is basically an economy. It's difficult to balance that economy based on what mods the user has installed. I hate to say it but without SLS installed there isn't much to spend that favour on. I suppose I could also add a global favour multiplier so people can adjust it to their own mod list.

Y'know, with some mods you can eviscerate any economy, so I don't think there's really all that much you can do to make favours more... universal.

And while we're at it, I had an idea for SLS. It has an awesome function to make it impossible to barter while gagged. I was thinking there's another layer of punishment that might be added - restriction for barter while visibly bound & without a follower (no trading with lone slaves). With proper mod setup this would fuck up players life - the trade could utilize follower's speech stat (follower's speech stats are usually low, BWitch has a similar solution for gag talk), so the economy would become significantly less rewarding. Also with Devious Followers as a cash sink, with limited options for income, survival would be significantly harder.

This solution would also benefit WT because it would limit PC's earning possibilities to just prostitution. The only problem with that would be fashion stuff. But this could be solved with a freedom license maybe?

  

32 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

A) to create an entire prostitution mod on top of WT or

B) somehow hook into an existing prostitution mod.

Both are a fairly unpalatable and a big commitment.

I know next to shit about modding, but I'm quite adept at laziness. Submissive Lola makes use of the outside prostitution mod, Radiant Prostitution in this case. Maybe you could adapt parts of HexBolt8's code?

Edited March 17, 2022 by kapibar

[Monoman1]

1 minute ago, kapibar said:

restriction for barter while visibly bound & without a follower (no trading with lone slaves).

This'll likely be a core part of the 'freedom licence' anyway... whenever I get around to it. 

[kapibar]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

This'll likely be a core part of the 'freedom licence' anyway... whenever I get around to it. 

If you need a motivational push - get to it ASAP ?.

[AlphaAndOmega]

Hello, I have some stuff to report.

1) I think the problem with outfit levels (not being given the next level) still persists. Even after setting pchsUngiftedOutfitsThisLevelCount to more than zero I'm not getting anything even after numerous forcegreetings. Could be just unlucky though. (I think that the cooldown is also out, but wasn't able to check that. How can I see these variables?)

2) During the supply run, if you manage to set up a unit of clothing outside the house and come to Belethor, you are going to be told that you don't have enough money. The Blacksmith dude works just fine, but Belethor requires you to wear the mask to give you the supplies. It could be intentional, but if it is, it's very unintuitive. "Perhaps you want to sell something" is just a message that you get due to the lack of money or it has some more elevated meaning?

 

Other than that, everything is fine. Thank you for your work, hope you are having fun while doing it.

[GeorgiaCav]

On a new game with 10.3, SLS 6.85, and YPS 2.4 tweak, I have no MCM menu options. The Wartimes MCM entry is there in the list, but it's empty.

 

Going to try rolling back to an earlier SLS, but wondered if anybody else had the same issue.

 

EDIT: Bingo. Rolled back to SLS .675 and the menu populated.

Edited March 19, 2022 by GeorgiaCav

[Pinute]

On 3/17/2022 at 3:11 AM, Monoman1 said:

That's a great idea. The problem of course is I either need:

A) to create an entire prostitution mod on top of WT or

B) somehow hook into an existing prostitution mod.

Both are a fairly unpalatable and a big commitment. 

 

TDF Prostitution has often been my go to mod for prostitution. Perhaps you can test for it and if it's there set a gold goal or use its client count? Horred has been working on it recently and already has some support of whore licenses in SLS. He might have some shortcuts for you.  Heh. I'd noted it months ago for a playthrough but only now got around to reading the support forum. Change of guy to ask: pfiffy. He talked a lot about it throughout the thread.

 

I've only had a chance to dip into your latest version for an hour or two and I'm liking it quite a bit. The only comment I have is to agree it's way to easy to skip over the whole mother thing and go to pregnancy without realizing it

 

Edited March 19, 2022 by PInute
rtfm

[lorddenorstrus]

@Monoman1  SLSO Seems to be really buggy.  Sometimes just not working as intended.  Although, I wonder if Script Load is the reason for it's questionable capability.   It does suck getting into a massive Minus Streak on Favour cus it doesn't work tho lol.

 

Other than that, everything seems to be ok.  I decided to kill my test and prune like 30+ mods tho after I noticed that maybe? script delay.