Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

4 hours ago, OlBenny said:

Hihi!  Might there be a console command to advance the stage for Alternate Start?  I'm using 10.0 (LE), I've talked to the statue, she says "No one is safe in war" bit after I've selected "I'm a daughter [...]", but the quest doesn't complete to where I can then use the bed and be ported to the pchsWartimesHome.  When I select the bed, it comes back with "Sleep is the last thing on my mind".  I am on a brand new game, using the latest version of Alternate Start, Zaz, I have the Tes5EditMerged built, and 10.0 is loading after LAL in my load order.  For the sake of science, I did try 4.2 and it completed just fine to the next stage.

Additionally, the Cum Pools MCM isn't select-able for me, although it appears to be so.  Also, changing father's dick size in the MCM, after I change it, it goes back to zero after I go back to the MCM.

Mmm. Try save and load in the AS cell. 

Or Try using the left for dead start then use the manual start button. 

Cum pools ill have to check. 

Schlong size is a bit wonky. The actor needs to be loaded. Might even have to be naked. Not sure.

 

[OlBenny]

Hi Monoman1!  Thank you so much for your reply.  I haven't tried the manual start from the Left for Dead scenario.  Indeed, I'll give that a go.  As for trying the save and load in the AS cell, I have done that, but to no avail.

 

EDIT:  Excellent, that worked in doing the Left for Dead scenario and manual start!  Thank you very much!

Edited March 1, 2022 by OlBenny

[Monoman1]

Think maybe it should cost gold to get mother back? Or some other gating factor...?

 

 

On 2/27/2022 at 4:55 AM, safado said:

 

@Monoman1

During the "Supply Run" quest/task first lewd run when "Father" remove clothing before kicking out of house, the "modesty" feature reequipped the clothes.

I think is the modesty feature, but I'm not sure.  Maybe doing the removal when the pc is out of the house could work.

 

Seems to work ok in my speed run test. 

  

12 hours ago, OlBenny said:

the Cum Pools MCM isn't select-able for me, although it appears to be so.

Takes longer to toggle than normal but toggles ok for me. (longer = probably running clean up routine when disabling).

Edited March 1, 2022 by Monoman1

[safado]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Seems to work ok in my speed run test. 

 

 

Ok.

Thanks, it is likely a third party mod then.

 

 

[audhol]

14 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Think maybe it should cost gold to get mother back? Or some other gating factor...?

The amputator quest line seems to work fine as is, maybe a diferent option to being the breeding mare might be nice?

 

Daughter has to collect and trade to get various items (obviously some cum would be involved!) to make special potion once every x number of days instead of the soup?

 

Father forces daughter into prostition (could use sls begging) to pay for Ma's care as alternative to breeding mare?

 

Father chooses someone else to be his breeding mare if daughter refuses, new wife also becomes dominant "sister" to daughter?

 

Gettting mama back "whole" at 10k is less succsesful, what about if....?

 

Time based as long as daughter pays to keep the care going for x number of weeks?

 

Option to get Ma back for less money or time with "radical new cure" but she comes back as someone else, like new wife idea above?

 

When certain level of submision\depravity is reached Ma comes back by herself, she was in on the plan all along (possible Daughter was adopted from the start)?

 

Ma's doctors need a special amulet to cure her, various items and ingredients need to be found and then taken to x npc to craft the amulet, cue various adventures of the sticky kind to get whats needed to make the amulet?

 

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 since you're back on the job (yay!) I have few suggestions:

1.) When ordered to be naked, all clothes should be removed from the inventory. Since father is checking PC's pockets anyway, this would make sense. Also the daughter shouldn't be allowed to have any other clothes than those father gave her in her possesion.

2.) I always found the inspection to be a little boring and not humiliating enough, so here's a suggestion: how about when the daughter is already required to pose, she would also have to undress for the inspection?
3.) This would be more of a hassle I assume (and you probably have some plans), but how about some tasks related to the smithy? Like being required to forge jewelry that father could sell. This would add some variety to the gameplay and allow to at least level up smithing.
4.) Devious Followers has a nice feature - the follower orders PC to wear jewelry that significantly decreases the stats. I've been thinking it would be nice if father did exactly the same thing to make daughter docile - murderous debuffs to all the magic and combat skills, making the daughter a harmless puppy.

Edited March 2, 2022 by kapibar

[safado]

@Monoman1

 

Minor issue 1:

During the party task, the cumslutQuest monitor do not exclude the "ingestible" potion FoodHoneyNutTreat "Honey Nut Treat" [ALCH:00064B38] from removal.

It gets removed multiple times during the party. 

 

Question:

Adding the item to Formlist pchsNoSwapForCumList [FLST:XX2A79A0] will exclude it from removal? But may be loophole for cheat...?

Maybe replace the "vanilla"  FoodHoneyNutTrea with a custom version that has no vendoritem keyword, but also no "nutrition" effects.  Just for the guest.

 

Minor issue 2:

During the Party task, the kickout-of-the-house scene triggered.  It did execute flawlessly, but cutoff the partytask. I forgot to check if the partytask was still active. Unfortunately, I reloaded a save and overwrote the one that recorded it, and now I'm unable to confirm if the pending task like the party were canceled or forced to fail. douuuh ??‍♂️

 

Thanks

 

Edited March 2, 2022 by safado

[MysticDaedra]

If I do not have any pregnancy mods but I do have MME, will I get Wartimes events related to MME, or do I also have to have one of the supported pregnancy mods?

[Alis_999]

Hm... i can't clean the new dirt after update, new dirt don't show the E button. How to turn off the dirt or clean with console or something?

Edited March 3, 2022 by Alis_999

[Monoman1]

14 minutes ago, Alis_999 said:

Hm... i can't clean the new dirt after update, new dirt don't have a E button. How to turn off the dirt or clean with console or something?

The dirt was moved a few updates back to make it more accessible. If done mod game the activator moves but not the dirt. One was moved closer to the door. The other moved closer to mothers room. Hover around there and it should show up. 

15 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

If I do not have any pregnancy mods but I do have MME, will I get Wartimes events related to MME, or do I also have to have one of the supported pregnancy mods?

MME portion only fires after pregnancy. 

 

 

Good suggestions there folks but my suggestion involved adding one dialogue topic and a few conditions ?

What about a long lost twin sister so you can litteraly go fuck yourself.

[Alis_999]

56 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

The dirt was moved a few updates back to make it more accessible. If done mod game the activator moves but not the dirt. One was moved closer to the door. The other moved closer to mothers room. Hover around there and it should show up. 

Still no activators. Please, just say the Quest id and stage number for cleaning, because i open the mod in TESvEdit and find the dirt id, but can't find the quest and stage

Edited March 3, 2022 by Alis_999

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

Still no activators. Please, just say the Quest id and stage number for cleaning, because i open the mod in TESvEdit and find the dirt id, but can't find the quest and stage

Global pchsDirtTimer controls the timing of the task. Set it higher than GameDaysPassed. 

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 I wanted to take a look at what you came up with and I feel the latest version is less robust than its predecessor. For instance some forcegreets are missing - two times I didn't get the forcegreet that I need to buy supplies. The info just appeared in the diary to get the gold and that was that. The other time I not only didn't get that forcegreet, but also father didn't initiate the dialogue for sex. For a first time the supply run is done naked, there's is no "through the door" conversation with father. Just the usual pop-up about the hood.

Also, while the beating punishment is self-explanatory, equipping deviced feels like a cursed loot or deviously enslaved event. The feature is nice, but there's no personal aspect to it, which I feel is a missed opportunity.

[tamai]

12 minutes ago, kapibar said:

@Monoman1 I wanted to take a look at what you came up with and I feel the latest version is less robust than its predecessor. For instance some forcegreets are missing - two times I didn't get the forcegreet that I need to buy supplies. The info just appeared in the diary to get the gold and that was that. The other time I not only didn't get that forcegreet, but also father didn't initiate the dialogue for sex. For a first time the supply run is done naked, there's is no "through the door" conversation with father. Just the usual pop-up about the hood.

Also, while the beating punishment is self-explanatory, equipping deviced feels like a cursed loot or deviously enslaved event. The feature is nice, but there's no personal aspect to it, which I feel is a missed opportunity.

 

maybe its on your end?  i played the latest version recently and got conversations through the door for the supply quest. and i had to talk to father to start the supply run and at that point through dialogue i got the gold to do the quest.

[OlBenny]

Hi Monoman1!  So, indeed, for me it's these three things that I can't configure for some odd reason:
 

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I just can't figure seem to figure it out.  In my game, the above also show as-is as default:  that father's cock size is 0, the NPC Sex Change is 0, and Cum Pools is untoggled.  When I try to adjust the first two, I can access the submenu, change the values, but after I close them to go back to the MCM, they show zero again.  For the Cum Pools, no matter what I do, I cannot toggle that on.  I've tried with my mouse, with the enter key, I've tried hold it down for like 20-30 seconds; I've tried selecting it, saving, and then reloading save, but, nope, still shows deselected. 

By default, what are the values of the Father's Cock Size and NPC Sex Change?  Are they in-fact zero?  And, for Cum Pools, by default is that disabled?  If they are, and most importantly, is there a way to configure them manually outside of the MCM?  On Cum Pools, I've tried "setstage pchsCumPoolsQuest to 1", but that comes back with "Stage 1 not found".  But, that's just me shooting shots in the dark.

By the way, everything else in MCM for Wartimes, can be configured or toggled, it's just these three things.

Edited March 5, 2022 by OlBenny

[tamai]

idk if this is an issue at all but when you use the open mouth key, shouldn't it show your tongue? if not is there a way i can do that

[Monoman1]

19 hours ago, kapibar said:

I wanted to take a look at what you came up with and I feel the latest version is less robust than its predecessor. For instance some forcegreets are missing - two times I didn't get the forcegreet that I need to buy supplies. The info just appeared in the diary to get the gold and that was that. The other time I not only didn't get that forcegreet, but also father didn't initiate the dialogue for sex. For a first time the supply run is done naked, there's is no "through the door" conversation with father. Just the usual pop-up about the hood.

Nothings changed in that regard AFAIK. Supply run is a FG on the FG stack. Same as all the other FG task intros. 

What can happen is you'll get one FG, say food confiscation or forbidden items (contraception) and then the regular FG stack FG will play directly afterwards. This can be a bit buggy as the dialogue can get mangled somehow (bethesda jank IMO). Same thing used to happen when you entered the house and aldo was horny. His FG would fire immediately, get bugged and exit as if you tabbed out. 

 

I'm not bothered fighting bethesda jank tbh. 

19 hours ago, kapibar said:

Also, while the beating punishment is self-explanatory, equipping deviced feels like a cursed loot or deviously enslaved event. The feature is nice, but there's no personal aspect to it, which I feel is a missed opportunity.

Well the dialogue was rushed but I don't know what you're suggesting...

 

(Also, personal touches take more time)

 

2 hours ago, OlBenny said:

Hi Monoman1!  So, indeed, for me it's these three things that I can't configure for some odd reason:
 

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I just can't figure seem to figure it out.  In my game, the above also show as-is as default:  that father's cock size is 0, the NPC Sex Change is 0, and Cum Pools is untoggled.  When I try to adjust the first two, I can access the submenu, change the values, but after I close them to go back to the MCM, they show zero again.  For the Cum Pools, no matter what I do, I cannot toggle that on.  I've tried with my mouse, with the enter key, I've tried hold it down for like 20-30 seconds; I've tried selecting it, saving, and then reloading save, but, nope, still shows deselected. 

By default, what are the values of the Father's Cock Size and NPC Sex Change?  Are they in-fact zero?  And, for Cum Pools, by default is that disabled?  If they are, and most importantly, is there a way to configure them manually outside of the MCM?  On Cum Pools, I've tried "setstage pchsCumPoolsQuest to 1", but that comes back with "Stage 1 not found".  But, that's just me shooting shots in the dark.

By the way, everything else in MCM for Wartimes, can be configured or toggled, it's just these three things.

I've explained cock size before - the actor needs to be initialized by SOS first. Honestly, I might just remove that control. 

 

The others - I'll probably need a log at this point. They work ok for me. 

 

Defaults are (there's a button for that btw but it needs to be set up in the script): 11, 100, on.

2 hours ago, tamai said:

idk if this is an issue at all but when you use the open mouth key, shouldn't it show your tongue? if not is there a way i can do that

You keep asking questions in the wrong threads

It should. I don't know about the manual control (haven't use it in a while) but SLS ahegao was working ok for me the other day. Though vibration ahegao was lasting longer than expected. 

Tongue also won't show while gagged. They use the same slot. 

Edited March 5, 2022 by Monoman1

[tamai]

22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

You keep asking questions in the wrong threads

 

oops my apologies ^^; i just see survival and wartimes really as just one big mod sometimes, ill be more careful. mhmm it works as intended just the default open mouth key alone doesn't have any tongue in the mouth.

[Monoman1]

2 hours ago, tamai said:

 

oops my apologies ^^; i just see survival and wartimes really as just one big mod sometimes, ill be more careful. mhmm it works as intended just the default open mouth key alone doesn't have any tongue in the mouth.

Mmm, AFAIR. Open mouth doesn't automatically stick out your tongue. Stick out tongue automatically opens your mouth though IIRC. 

[GIJ]

I am unable to walk dogs for brumbar. I am using the SE version; is there a patch I need to download?

 

[safado]

4 minutes ago, GIJ said:

I am unable to walk dogs for brumbar. I am using the SE version; is there a patch I need to download?

 

 

It triggers when activating/opening the cage door(specific to the cage door) after Brumbar job acceptance dialogue.  It is that what is failing?

 

If you are able to trigger and choose an option to get inside, then it will only trigger the next step if naked and activating rug in the middle of cage.  It may only appear during scene.

 

 

[GIJ]

2 minutes ago, safado said:

 

It triggers when activating/opening the cage door(specific to the cage door) after Brumbar job acceptance dialogue.  It is that what is failing?

 

If you are able to trigger and choose an option to get inside, then it will only trigger the next step if naked and activating rug in the middle of cage.  It may only appear during scene.

 

 

Well, thats the issue, I am not seeing any cages. 

[Monoman1]

22 minutes ago, GIJ said:

Well, thats the issue, I am not seeing any cages. 

You are probably using an out of date zaz

[kapibar]

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Nothings changed in that regard AFAIK. Supply run is a FG on the FG stack. Same as all the other FG task intros.

Ah, so it's just Skyrim being Skyrim. Understood.

 

5 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Well the dialogue was rushed but I don't know what you're suggesting...

 

(Also, personal touches take more time)

Yeah, I know "fan requests" are bothersome.

Anyway, what I had in mind is something more along the Leon quest, where father would punish you wearing the devices for a specific time. For a "personal touch" a pop-up window saying something like "father punishes you for doing/not doing a thing with a set of devices that you need to wear for x time, otherwise he'll get even more angry with you". So, nothing too fancy.

Btw.: I still believe father should force daughter to wear a ring/panel gag permanently. You said it would be problematic since tasks are started by the dialogue, but few mods solved it by making NPCs able to understand gag talk (I know Laura and Dollmaker are such NPCs). And for the forcegreet dialogues, at later stages PC doesn't have anything intresting or influencial to say, so you could just as well change the response to "nod confirmingly" and "shake your head in contradiction".

Edited March 5, 2022 by kapibar

[adle]

Hello,

 

shot question. I'm playing this mod and try to get fathers slave wife. Player is already pregnant via beeing female.

As soon as she is in labor, father approaches her with the slave wife dialogue. After she agress, he leave her alone.

So i tried both, give birth to an child actor, or to child/baby item. But after the birth, there is no dialogue to hand them over. Its just another normal day. 

Its like im stuck in a loop. Does anyone have a solution? 

Im playing on SE with the monoman version of wartime

 

looking forward for your help

 

Sincerely 

Edited March 5, 2022 by adle