Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[iskander3825]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

The ending part is still not fully developed. Keep in mind that the mod is still work in progress. There are however ways in which you can get out of this mod. There are two ending segments at the moment - when the PC gives birth to father's child, she can refuse giving it up, so the father will sell her to the Simple Slavery. The other - more obvious way - is becoming the slave wife. Father will force you to starve the mother, and you'll become slave for life. There are two ways in which you can end it - kill the father (which you already know), or start to fuck up tasks. Lowering favor score to -10 will force father to kick you out, while placing the bounty on your head. After some time he will allow you to come back. Then you'll have another shot at redeeming yourself as a slave. Or you can continue fucking up. Then he'll kick you out for good. These are the options for now at least.

Thank you. Sound good. As for me, best  decision for this mod it's merge with Slaverun reloaded. This is very logical. 

Father  can decide sell PC for the this mod slavers. 

[iskander3825]

2 minutes ago, kapibar said:

But it is only doable during the early stages of the game, before mother has been locked and crippled. I assume iskander3825 is further than that in his gameplay.

You right, it's too late for my PC. 

[kapibar]

16 minutes ago, iskander3825 said:

Thank you. Sound good. As for me, best  decision for this mod it's merge with Slaverun reloaded. This is very logical. 

Father  can decide sell PC for the this mod slavers. 

For seamless transition to Slaverun I'd suggest refusing to give up the baby -> Simple Slavery with only Slaverun option checked -> there you go.

[iskander3825]

14 minutes ago, kapibar said:

For seamless transition to Slaverun I'd suggest refusing to give up the baby -> Simple Slavery with only Slaverun option checked -> there you go.

Yeah, but it's strange. When your PC have a baby she, 100%, horny bitch, and she have a lot of sex experience, but it's no matter for Bellamy and another bastards, Slave still need make basic sex training. I mean part after first certification, not scene near the gate.

Edited November 8, 2021 by iskander3825

[kapibar]

46 minutes ago, iskander3825 said:

Yeah, but it's strange. When your PC have a baby she, 100%, horny bitch, and she have a lot of sex experience, but it's no matter for Bellamy and another bastards, Slave still need make basic sex training. I mean part after first certification, not scene near the gate.

Agreed, this part of Slaverun always pissed me off. This, and the part with Balgruuf saying PC is a worthless fuck. Yeah, right.

Overall, Slaverun has an intresting premise, but it's barely stable, outdated, has a shitload of boring elements and some parts that barely make any sense, like being sentenced to be cooked alive. This mod could really use an overhaul, from what I know there are two under development, but both of them are for the SE version, which is a bummer. Usually LE mods are quickly converted to SE, not so much the other way around.

[iskander3825]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

Agreed, this part of Slaverun always pissed me off. This, and the part with Balgruuf saying PC is a worthless fuck. Yeah, right.

Overall, Slaverun has an intresting premise, but it's barely stable, outdated, has a shitload of boring elements and some parts that barely make any sense, like being sentenced to be cooked alive. This mod could really use an overhaul, from what I know there are two under development, but both of them are for the SE version, which is a bummer. Usually LE mods are quickly converted to SE, not so much the other way around.

Agree about Slaverun. Last party real very stupid. 

Well see about new version. May be it will be one of the reason to change LE to SE 

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[kapibar]

@Monoman1 don't know if it's just me, but for whatever reason the outfit progression forcegreet does not initiate. It was working fine before the update. Json file is OK.

Edit: Yup, something's fucky with v8.7. Downgraded to 8.6 and the forcegreet worked like a charm.

Also:
 

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Devious piercings are an OK replacement for IF piercings during routine checkups. Don't forget to put your IF piercings back in if/when you unlock your devious piercings. 

Nope. Got minus favor after trading IF piercings for devious.

Edited November 8, 2021 by kapibar

[fred200]

SE latest update

Actually - I could live with my lack of cum control - if I could just get this dumb bucket off my head.

 

It is not recognized as WT mask. Nude results in loss of respect.

 

I have tried removing it through the console - it comes right back.

I have tried dropping it - it comes back. One on me - one on the ground.

I have tried using the DD MCM to remove gear. It comes right back.

 

This is worse than the Ghost of Christmas Past...

[ck2modfan]

1 hour ago, fred200 said:

SE latest update

Actually - I could live with my lack of cum control - if I could just get this dumb bucket off my head.

 

It is not recognized as WT mask. Nude results in loss of respect.

 

I have tried removing it through the console - it comes right back.

I have tried dropping it - it comes back. One on me - one on the ground.

I have tried using the DD MCM to remove gear. It comes right back.

 

This is worse than the Ghost of Christmas Past...

On SE, had similar issue with mask. Later with plugs.

[Monoman1]

19 hours ago, fred200 said:

With the most recent SE version - I have lost control of cum. No cum entry on the Misc wheel, no way to gather cum or drink it. No way to fill a cum-tainer.

Father is not real happy...

Any ideas?

1. Use SLSs wheel. Not WT.

2. Cum controls aren't in the Misc section of any wheel.

5 hours ago, fred200 said:

It is not recognized as WT mask. Nude results in loss of respect.

People with SE need to figure this out. It's unlikely to be anything to do with WT because:

1. It has always worked fine for me. 

2. WT doesn't do anything special. Equip item. Remove item. 

3. The hood is a DEVIOUS DEVICES item. Not a wartimes item.

4. Only SE people seem to have any problem.

 

Add one to your inventory manually on a new game and equip it. If it still doesn't behave properly then it's something to bring up the DD thread. Not here. 

 

5 hours ago, kapibar said:

don't know if it's just me, but for whatever reason the outfit progression forcegreet does not initiate. It was working fine before the update.

You mean going from one level to the next level up? I'll have to look at it. I'm at max (naked disabled) and I've been getting a new outfit every other day.

5 hours ago, kapibar said:

Downgraded to 8.6 and the forcegreet worked like a charm.

Mmm yea. I hope you went back to a save before upgrading. There's no downgrading this mod (or I'd imagine 99.999% of mods) as there are zero provisions for it in the scripts...

5 hours ago, kapibar said:

Nope. Got minus favor after trading IF piercings for devious.

I assume you mean devious for IF piercings. 

Been working just fine for me as I've been slapped with nip piercings several times now. Haven't had clit piercing though. 

On 11/4/2021 at 4:00 PM, Hpl55 said:

Any idea what could conflict and ctd when by now i try to go near home? I took a week off after a bit of the party, elswhere rather stable, whiterun area problematic now.

i was wondering whatbscripts of WT and SLS are very intense on my game. Allready dialed many down. Wear and tear /slavetats on npcs (mother) a problem?

No idea. If it's a hard crash then it's a simple case of disabling mods until you find the culprit. 

 

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

On SE, had similar issue with mask. Later with plugs.

Devious plugs or the plugs that come with wartimes (carrot, mead etc)?

If devious then is there some issues going on with DD SE that I'm not aware of (wouldn't be hard for me not to know).

[ck2modfan]

16 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Devious plugs or the plugs that come with wartimes (carrot, mead etc)?

If devious then is there some issues going on with DD SE that I'm not aware of (wouldn't be hard for me not to know).

Something going on with DD SE. Not the carrot, mead, etc.

 

Heard that Unrestricted Enchantments Remake has issue with DD 5.x. Removing and starting new game.

[kapibar]

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

You mean going from one level to the next level up? I'll have to look at it. I'm at max (naked disabled) and I've been getting a new outfit every other day.

 

Yup. I didn't receive any new outfit in more than 20 game days. Downgraded to 8.6 and it worked instantly.

 

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Mmm yea. I hope you went back to a save before upgrading. There's no downgrading this mod (or I'd imagine 99.999% of mods) as there are zero provisions for it in the scripts...

Fuck no, man. I did it on a live safe, like a man. To paraphrase the wisdom of a modern time sage Ivan Drago - if it dies, it dies.

 

6 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I assume you mean devious for IF piercings. 

Been working just fine for me as I've been slapped with nip piercings several times now. Haven't had clit piercing though. 

Nope. Exactly as I said - I had 3 stages of devious job, maxed at piercing level. Father gave me piercings -> equipped on IF piercings (IF piercings unequipped) -> next check is a minus favor.

[Monoman1]

5 hours ago, kapibar said:

Fuck no, man. I did it on a live safe, like a man. To paraphrase the wisdom of a modern time sage Ivan Drago - if it dies, it dies.

You misunderstand me. My motivation is purely selfish

You're script version is now 8.7 running on 8.6 scripts/esp. Granted it was a small update but who knows what'll happen. I know the 8.6 -> 8.7 upgrade section of the update function won't run for you next time. That's about all I know. Like I said it's probably ok. But you've essentially, possibly created a mod state that nobody else will have. Therefore some bug reports could possibly be unique to you in the entire world now. And I could end up chasing 'ghost bugs'. Hence my selfishness. 

5 hours ago, kapibar said:

Nope. Exactly as I said - I had 3 stages of devious job

Ah ok so this check is on the devious side not the IF side. Don't suppose you remember the exact notification wording? 

 

Btw I still can't really recommend using the bondage option if you want IF mostly. IF has loads of checks that stop you upkeeping your makeup. I'm trying to build compatibility so at least Father won't be pissed when something is blocked but still IF is just too nitpicky when it comes to DDs - want to change your toe nail polish? Got to take off your stockings first. Whoops before you take off your stockings you've got to take off your shoes. Whoops you're wearing leg cuffs. Oh well, forget about it then. 

11 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

Something going on with DD SE. Not the carrot, mead, etc.

 

Heard that Unrestricted Enchantments Remake has issue with DD 5.x. Removing and starting new game.

I'm using DD 5.1 LE. You'd think they'd be equivalent...

Edited November 9, 2021 by Monoman1

[Hpl55]

Do you by chance have an idea what could have disabled the face trauma functions? When i started the game, mother would get sometimes bleeding lips and stuff like that. Also they were able as makeups for her in racemenu (by project proteus) but now the only traumas happeneing are body bruises on pc.

 

something must mess up my nioverride/slavetats/sls settings but i ve no clue. 

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

You misunderstand me. My motivation is purely selfish

That's a healthy and perfectly understandable motivation

 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

You're script version is now 8.7 running on 8.6 scripts/esp. Granted it was a small update but who knows what'll happen. I know the 8.6 -> 8.7

I figured this might be the case. So I said "fuck it" and restarted the game. It's not like I want to save Skyrim anyway, just having fun. So no worries, now I'm on 8.6 and ready to update.
 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Ah ok so this check is on the devious side not the IF side. Don't suppose you remember the exact notification wording? 

Matter of fact I do, more or less.

"Father is unhappy I'm not wearing my "accessories" favor -10".

 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

Btw I still can't really recommend using the bondage option if you want IF mostly.

Yeah, I figured this might cause some fuckery. I don't think @emily1673 recommends this too. By the way @Balgin I remember you were quite active in the yps thread. Do you know what happened with Emily? She's inactive for a while now.
 

1 hour ago, Monoman1 said:

I'm trying to build compatibility

I'm usually working around the compability issue by using messing with the locking system option in DD. By the way, you have a very soft heart. If I were you, I'd say "fuck the players" and let them figure out how NOT to piss father off by themselves. I can think of at least few methods of working around devices' restrictions.

Anyway, hope you'll figure out the problem soon enough. And I'm hoping for some cool features in the next update ;).

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

I don't think @emily1673 recommends this too. By the way @Balgin I remember you were quite active in the yps thread. Do you know what happened with Emily? She's inactive for a while now.

She's been inactive since New Year's Day. She's busy (but apparently in a good way) and doesn't know if or when she'll be able to get back to the mod. She seemed happy 'though. I honestly don't know more than is publicly available in the thread although I came very close to asking for all her notes and files and plans the last time she put the mod on hold for 7 or 8 months (before she came back to work furiously on it for another 8 or 9 before vanishing again).

 

I have some suspicions about the directions the mod's quest was heading in but none have been confirmed yet. I didn't ask too much because I didn't want to interfere with the creative process too much. I also have a theory about what's been going on in Emily's life and why she's not working on the mod anymore but that one's pretty far fetched and unsubstantiated. More of a "it's possible that so and so it happening/was happening/was going on" kind of thought that I've been bearing in mind just so that it doesn't catch me as a surprise if it actually turns out to be true.

 

I'm still quite active in the YPS thread. If I can't help too much with actual tweaks and updates to the mod I can at least keep people informed and answer their questions. Kind of like a custodian (or like Mourns For Trees from Planescape: Torment). I've been following Monoman's YPS mod tweaks in this thread (and wondering if he's ever going to update the yps tweak in his mod tweaks files page as some of the tweaks in this thread do things for the mod that the one on his mod tweaks page does not - like some of the more recent changes to nylons, for example).

Edited November 9, 2021 by Balgin

[Iroha]

Did someone notice that if during sexlab scene character sticks out tongue(sl survival) and is weared high-heels on scene start - then sexlab clears high-heel height once again right on sticking tongue out (and moves character back up on tongue-off). Are someone have this problem like me( (for a long time already, but now I want to fix it^_^)?

[Monoman1]

1 hour ago, Balgin said:

(and wondering if he's ever going to update the yps tweak in his mod tweaks files page as some of the tweaks in this thread do things for the mod that the one on his mod tweaks page does not - like some of the more recent changes to nylons, for example).

It's not 'released' because 

1. I'm not 100% happy that stockings are not normally stealable or confiscatable due to the SexlabNoStrip keyword. Though keeping them on during sex is a good side effect at least. 

2. I'm also not 100% happy with the equip/lock/state mechanism. When stockings were confiscated in SLS the overlays sometimes stayed on for some reason. It's easy enough to fix but a PITA. 

3. And chiefly: Newer versions may not be backward compatible with other released 'stable' versions. 

 

I need to finish off wartimes. See if I can do something about the above. Finish off several unfinished features in SLS. And then I can release everything... Dragging 3/4/5 mods along together is no easy task for 1 person. 

1 hour ago, Iroha said:

Are someone have this problem like me

Hadn't noticed tbh. 

Edited November 9, 2021 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

3 hours ago, Hpl55 said:

something must mess up my nioverride/slavetats/sls settings but i ve no clue.

Probably either face overlays have been disabled in NiOverride.ini or there aren't enough slots to add more overlays. 

[Iroha]

13 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

Hadn't noticed tbh. 

Monoman1, please, help me to understand how slot for tongues is setted(getted), I suppose in my instalation its just goes to slot 37 which are checked in sslSystemConfig.pcs  (part of code in spoiler)

Spoiler

; ------------------------------------------------------- ;
; --- 3rd party compatibility                         --- ;
; ------------------------------------------------------- ;

Spell function GetHDTSpell(Actor ActorRef)
    if !HasHDTHeels || !HDTHeelEffect || !ActorRef; || !ActorRef.GetWornForm(Armor.GetMaskForSlot(37))
        return none
    endIf

he, it seems its commented out) well, then this is not the reason (no need to tell about slots)

Edited November 9, 2021 by Iroha

[kapibar]

1 hour ago, Balgin said:

She's busy (but apparently in a good way)

That's great too hear. I wasn't really following the thread, so I was unsure if this was a good absence or a bad one (we had few of those, sadly). Glad to hear she's in a good place, although yps is in a pretty unfortunate state right now.

Many thanks for the update.

[Balgin]

57 minutes ago, kapibar said:

That's great too hear. I wasn't really following the thread, so I was unsure if this was a good absence or a bad one (we had few of those, sadly). Glad to hear she's in a good place, although yps is in a pretty unfortunate state right now.

Many thanks for the update.

 

Here's a copy of Emily's post from New Year's Day:

 

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Thank you for your thoughts.

No need to worry about myself.

It's just that these are strange times – in oh so many aspects! –, and other things keep me very busy at the moment. (This is not a complaint, overall I am doing well.)

As to whether (or even when) I will have time to spend on modding again, I cannot say.

 

In any case: Happy New Year to everybody! New Year brings new luck.

 

[Hpl55]

Have a weird issue (again) after starting over a new game that my pc always head tracks around eventho pc headtracking is removed.

 

i think it has to do with sls or wt. any advice? Cant find a way to turn it off. Is it baked in when leaving WT Home without reading the journal or sth? 

[ck2modfan]

3 hours ago, Hpl55 said:

Have a weird issue (again) after starting over a new game that my pc always head tracks around eventho pc headtracking is removed.

 

i think it has to do with sls or wt. any advice? Cant find a way to turn it off. Is it baked in when leaving WT Home without reading the journal or sth? 

I get that every so often. I created a little bat script that uses the following console command:

player.setanimgraphvar isnpc 0

 

This seems to reset head position.