Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

6 hours ago, zato770 said:

However he keeps telling me I am not wearing the clothes.

DD device hider?

3 hours ago, AlphaAndOmega said:

A minor thing. Every time I start the game I see "Wartimes Soulgem Factory started" and I've always wondered what's that about. Is that some unfinished quest from the ancient times or what?

It's a shell quest with some (mostly) empty scripts attached that was a part of the original WT. 

I can't determine what it's intended purpose was. Especially since the plot leans heavily into 'real' pregnancy. 

[zato770]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

DD device hider?

What settings should I change? That's in DD right?

 

I rearranged the JSON accessories to be in order with outfits, that might have fixed it, although it did display correctly in game before hand, DD seems to be a better lead.

[AlphaAndOmega]

20 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

It's a shell quest with some (mostly) empty scripts attached that was a part of the original WT. 

I can't determine what it's intended purpose was. Especially since the plot leans heavily into 'real' pregnancy. 

Well, it is kinda in line with the idea of using the daughter to make as much money as humanly (and inhumanly) possible. With SLS magic licensing wizardry I wouldn't be surprised for father to come up with a way to switch between soulgem and real pregnancy. An attempt to make her more used to the pregnant state? Further degrade her to think of herself as a tool for his goals? Make it not that much of a big deal when he demands to do it for real? Switch it without prior notification once she gets used to the routine?

Will not disagree with it being out of the line, but soulgem oven is a permanent resident in my modlist and the notification messes up with me every time I start a new game.

 

By the way, some time ago there were several reports of father stoppong to ask for food and drink if you come home after midnight. Did you manage to recreate it on your end? I wonder if it's a real thing or a weird side effect of other mods tomfoolery.

[Balgin]

22 minutes ago, AlphaAndOmega said:

Well, it is kinda in line with the idea of using the daughter to make as much money as humanly (and inhumanly) possible. With SLS magic licensing wizardry I wouldn't be surprised for father to come up with a way to switch between soulgem and real pregnancy. An attempt to make her more used to the pregnant state? Further degrade her to think of herself as a tool for his goals? Make it not that much of a big deal when he demands to do it for real? Switch it without prior notification once she gets used to the routine?

Or so he could make money selling the soul gems. It's not a mod I've ever used.

[Karkhel]

48 minutes ago, Balgin said:

Or so he could make money selling the soul gems. It's not a mod I've ever used.

This is what I always assumed about this scrapped quest whenever it popped up in convos here, would I guess check if you have normal or soul gem pregnancy and have some alternative lines and jobs then, maybe soulgem quota to keep up with. Never used soulgem mod and I never used the soulgem option in fertility because it would just be money printing lol.

[Monoman1]

OK I guess the intention is fairly clear. What I meant more was HOW to blend both kinds of pregnancy into a single mod

[Monoman1]

19 hours ago, zato770 said:

What settings should I change? That's in DD right?

 

I rearranged the JSON accessories to be in order with outfits, that might have fixed it, although it did display correctly in game before hand, DD seems to be a better lead.

Disable the device hider in DD settings. 

Cant recommend reorganising the json without knowing how the script works

[Desvati]

23 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

It's a shell quest with some (mostly) empty scripts attached that was a part of the original WT. 

I can't determine what it's intended purpose was. Especially since the plot leans heavily into 'real' pregnancy. 

It was a separate "start" for Wartimes as far as I remember. Originally there were intended to be multiple beginnings you could choose from with different scenarios, but they never got developed and the soulgem breeder/factory one only has some barebones elements laying around.

[Monoman1]

I'd also remind people that sgo4 is se only the last time i checked so there'd need to be separate handling of LE (Sgo3) vs SE (sgo4) = less palatable to me. 

Edited April 23, 2023 by Monoman1

[AlphaAndOmega]

7 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I'd also remind people that sgo4 is se only the last time i checked so there'd need to be separate handling of LE (Sgo3) vs SE (sgo4) = less palatable to me. 

This could theoretically be done entirely through Fertility Mode, since it already has both options. This would require to change a bunch of settings to emulate different behaviour and pacing, but I don't know if a different mod is capable of such control. Is it possible to change mcm settings of mod A as mod B?

[Karkhel]

I completely get not wanting to expand this, seems like a lot of effort for not super amazing pay off? I haven't found any interesting setups with soulgems. The best and closest anyone ever done was whorecrux having its own unique gems you'd birth as a curse, some pretty fun interactions there, mod had a potential but sadly haven't had updates in a while.

[zato770]

On 4/22/2023 at 8:35 PM, Monoman1 said:

Disable the device hider in DD settings. 

Cant recommend reorganising the json without knowing how the script works

EDIT: I think i did a big oopsie, thought the outfits reload on every game restart, so i didnt "import" them into the mod in game.

Is there any way to postpone/disable ZAZ devices? the slots conflict with my outfit.

 

 

Thats didnt work unfortunetley (I wasnt wearing any DD, assume thats related.)
 

Restored to the original generated json and still getting the issue.
 

Papyrus log (there do seem to be some related failures on the maid outfit script):
https://gist.github.com/zato770/bab10919840f410ab1c36a817c1e4ff6
 

Edited April 24, 2023 by zato770

[ck2modfan]

trying a different perspective... defiant. mouthing off in the beginning didn't work as wound up in simple slavery outcome. tried again and was "better" during initial dialog to save/cure ma. when father became "tense", said no. was warned that father was really angry. had enough favor that -15 hit still kept me in positive. 

 

then... nothing. father didn't force himself or even try again. what should happen after first rejection on complying with tense request? what should the variables look like?

 

EDIT: Looks like setting pchsfathersex to -1 (was -2) triggered you useless cow dialog and then sl scene with -4 favor.

Edited April 25, 2023 by ck2modfan

[Piiska]

On 4/17/2023 at 9:37 PM, emily1673 said:

 

Indeed, just posted a merger, YPS v. 6.3, which makes tweak 2.4 obsolete, please go ahead and try it.

But note that the new merged version is LE only! (Not doing SE conversions myself for the time being.)

 

And thanks to Monoman for the great work! ?

Hi, great to see an update for this mod! I had to try the new version but it seems it breaks the piercing scenes in Wartimes. When talking to Tris the whole scene won't start properly and the piercings won't get applied.

Edited April 25, 2023 by Piiska

[Monoman1]

On 4/23/2023 at 8:39 PM, Karkhel said:

I completely get not wanting to expand this, seems like a lot of effort for not super amazing pay off? I haven't found any interesting setups with soulgems. The best and closest anyone ever done was whorecrux having its own unique gems you'd birth as a curse, some pretty fun interactions there, mod had a potential but sadly haven't had updates in a while.

Ya. I think it'd make more sense for father to continue to knock up his breeding pig rather than trying to switch over to soul gems. I'd find it rather jarring if all Npcs + player are getting regular pregnant and then all of a sudden all npcs + player are getting soul gem pregnant because (I'm fairly sure) you can't specifically target with pregnancy mods. 

 

I kind of feel there's more opportunity for story/events with regular pregnancy. I do find FMs pregnancy a bit too... fast though. Both in term and how easy it is to get pregnant. I'm sure there's settings I can change. I just haven't had the time. 

7 hours ago, ck2modfan said:

then... nothing. father didn't force himself or even try again. what should happen after first rejection on complying with tense request?

This is the path I usually take. It works ok. Eventually he'll force himself on you. Patience is required. 

20 hours ago, zato770 said:

Is there any way to postpone/disable ZAZ devices? the slots conflict with my outfit.

The outfit system contains a check to see if the slot contains a DD or zaz device so it should work ok...

 

Bool Function IsSlotBlocked(Armor akArmor)
    Form akForm = PlayerRef.GetWornForm(akArmor.GetSlotMask())
    If akForm && (akForm.HasKeyword(SexlabNoStrip) || akForm.HasKeyWord(zbfWornDevice))
        Return true
    EndIf
    Return false
EndFunction

1 hour ago, Piiska said:

Hi, great to see an update for this mod! I had to try the new version but it seems it breaks the piercing scenes in Wartimes. When talking to Tris the whole scene won't start properly and the piercings won't get applied.

Doing yet another speed run. So far lipstick and eyeshadow working ok. Also ear piercings working ok. 

 

I had what looked like a problem but that was only because I forgot to save and reload before beginning the game. A lot of initialization happens on the 1st save load. 

[Monoman1]

Believe I've fixed the long standing bug where food/drink timers were not resumed when returning home after getting piercings. Timers were entering weird (negative) territory. Also fixed the solitude carriage remaining in solitude when Bjorlam decides to go without you (after midnight). 

 

Anyone experiencing this issue can do the following:

 

1. Get the current game time: 'Help  GameDaysPassed' in console and make a note of the value.

2. 'Set  pchsFatherHungerLastMeal  to  <Whatever GameDaysPassed is>

3. 'Set  pchsFatherThirstLastDrink  to  <Whatever GameDaysPassed is>

 

This will set variables as if you had just served him food/drink right now. Food/Drink tasks should then resume within some hours. 

 

For now just make sure to return home before midnight. Again, low timescale will help a lot with that. 

 

Edited April 25, 2023 by Monoman1

[Piiska]

3 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Doing yet another speed run. So far lipstick and eyeshadow working ok. Also ear piercings working ok. 

 

I had what looked like a problem but that was only because I forgot to save and reload before beginning the game. A lot of initialization happens on the 1st save load. 

Hmm. Maybe my Skyrim is somehow acting up then. Your 2.4 Tweaked version always worked without issues and I have pretty much the same mod setup as well, only updated a few mods. For me the makeup stuff works too but the piercing scenes at Tris do not.

[Karkhel]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

I kind of feel there's more opportunity for story/events with regular pregnancy. I do find FMs pregnancy a bit too... fast though. Both in term and how easy it is to get pregnant.

It's definitely too easy to get pregnant, didn't have chance to experience father's machinations as I got pregnant on first vaginal scene with him. I was thinking of lowering the base chance by A LOT and then using fill her up sending data to it as a main danger, not sure how well that one works. As for term... on base timescale its a bit over 10hrs by default of pregnancy, I think that's reasonable, 20hrs would prob be max I could stomach (pun not intended).

I'm also using disparity to just debuff the player to basically be useless in combat (though not touching stamina or health or speed or anything like that, just debuffing the heck out of combat skills), maybe a bit crude way but I wanted some big consequences to getting pregnant so it felt like something to be avoided if you wanted to go adventuring. Next time I play wartimes I'm definitely changing the timescale like its been recommended in this thread many times, while it was fun at times with how hectic it got there was an issue with money at some point. Does everyone just use the console to set the timescale or use mods? I never touched the timescale before.

[emily1673]

7 hours ago, Piiska said:

I had to try the new version but it seems it breaks the piercing scenes in Wartimes. When talking to Tris the whole scene won't start properly and the piercings won't get applied.

Strange, I tried it several times (LE version) and it worked.

Edited April 25, 2023 by emily1673

[KurosawaKe]

On 4/7/2023 at 9:42 PM, Monoman1 said:

So here's some things I wanted to show. 

 

1. The dialogue bug on the force greet stack I'd forgotten about. This is fairly serious and I don't know what's going on. I've double checked everything is as it should be and rebuilt the seq file. It's as if the 'Invisible continue' flag isn't working anymore. If you click the '...' at just the right time the dialogue fragment will run twice which in this case results in getting 2x180 gold...

 

Also if the current dialogue block has more than one line and you click the dots all remaining lines in that block are skipped rather than skipping one line and you're moved on to the next topic which makes the dialogue very hard to understand. 

 

Suspect wonky bethesda stuff tbh but I haven't a clue how to fix it...

 

 

 

2. This is a showcase of the new food system. I've probably shown it before. But it supports multiple orders at once (guests) and multiple items per order (this time beef + a side of eidar cheese).

 

However, this time I've added a workaround system for when you're wearing a blocking gag. Normally you can't craft or add/remove food items from a container with these types of gags. The new system will allow you to serve/cook even while hard gagged. Now, you CAN cheat by opening a container and if you're fast enough press 'switch to equip mode' and equip some food really fast but I've decided just to straight up kill the player if this happens as you're clearly trying to cheat by that stage. I'll probably add this system into SLS as it's very general purpose IMO. 

 

Also at the end of the video is a little showing of 'tools'. Eg: You'll need a broom to sweep the floor now. You already need an axe to chop wood but you can place it back by the fire to keep it safe. I plan on adding serving tray/goblets and pot/spoon requirements for serving food/drink. Obviously if you bring them with you and they end up getting stolen/lost then you'll have to replace them yourself. 

 

Creating cooked beef created 4 portions this time. All food needs to be accounted for so you should add back excess food into the pantry storage. Otherwise they'll be considered stolen and you'll be punished. You can then use items in storage for future orders. 

 

I think I'll also have to tone down the cum diet food confiscation force greet as it's conflicting heavily with cooking now. I'll probably minimise it to one check when you enter the home cell. 

 

it is really immersive！！ I almost cant wait for player new version!!

 

[zato770]

What causes the outfits to progress? is there any way to force it? I tried firing off multiple force greets with no luck.

[griffinjohn59]

So, out of curiosity what are the triggers related to party guest dialogue options?  Cause honestly while I know that they CAN ask for sex before you serve them nude it happens so rarely that I'm not certain if it's a bug or if there's some metagame involved in the party.  I swear I read somewhere that dancing and given the guests beer has something to do with it but how many does it take before they get rowdy?  Or am I completely misremembering and it's mostly just random?

 

Thanks!

[Monoman1]

17 hours ago, zato770 said:

What causes the outfits to progress? is there any way to force it? I tried firing off multiple force greets with no luck.

There is a cooldown, otherwise he might tell you to wear one dress and then 4 hours later tell you to wear another which would increase you through the outfit levels too quickly. 

'Set  pchsOutfitChangeCooldown  to  0'

4 hours ago, griffinjohn59 said:

So, out of curiosity what are the triggers related to party guest dialogue options?  Cause honestly while I know that they CAN ask for sex before you serve them nude it happens so rarely that I'm not certain if it's a bug or if there's some metagame involved in the party.  I swear I read somewhere that dancing and given the guests beer has something to do with it but how many does it take before they get rowdy?  Or am I completely misremembering and it's mostly just random?

 

Thanks!

According to my version (where the dialogue has changed a lot but possibly not the sex dialogue) it requires:

Depravity > 0

Player is naked

10% chance

[Monoman1]

 

Farm girl simulator...

 

Edited April 26, 2023 by Monoman1

[audhol]

8 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Farm girl simulator...

Awesome work mono, only thing is the silly girl forgot to close the gate, them chimkins gonna be sneaking out!