OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[SexyTop69]

Hello, I was wondering if there was an latest patch for Ahegao HDT tongues for the scripts " sslbase expressions and voices " for sex lab utility since they both overwrite each other on this thread? I tried the latest version of utility and the equipping and placement of the tongues did not work so I'm hoping there is an patch on here.  

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, SexyTop69 said:

Hello, I was wondering if there was an latest patch for Ahegao HDT tongues for the scripts " sslbase expressions and voices " for sex lab utility since they both overwrite each other on this thread? I tried the latest version of utility and the equipping and placement of the tongues did not work so I'm hoping there is an patch on here.  

Nope, "Ahegao HDT tongues" is probably the best Mod for ahegao but the reason why SLU+ include it's own Ahegao expressions is because both mods are incompatible and will never be 100% compatible.

 

You can force the Ahegao HDT tongues over the SLU+ or you can wait until the new SLU+ version be released in few days.

 

WARNING: aside that few error are expected if you force the Ahegao HDT tongues over the SLU+, also Ahegao HDT tongues have it's own expression system that makes useless the SexLab Expressions and that's why both mods are incompatible.

[powersexking]

hello. I'm glad I have a place to ask this. If i choose the lip sync option, mouth will move when moan, but it's not smooth.
I searched past posts. I applied the modified script file on the 'The Still Prevalent Lip Sync Issue' page, but to no avail.

I can edit the lip sync in sexlab mcm options. However, even after changing it several times, it could not be smoothed out. Is this problem unsolvable?

[OsmelMC]

12 minutes ago, powersexking said:

hello. I'm glad I have a place to ask this. If i choose the lip sync option, mouth will move when moan, but it's not smooth.
I searched past posts. I applied the modified script file on the 'The Still Prevalent Lip Sync Issue' page, but to no avail.

I can edit the lip sync in sexlab mcm options. However, even after changing it several times, it could not be smoothed out. Is this problem unsolvable?

 

In my game is smooth enough for my taste.

For i can see on your animation your biggest issue is the amount of time that the mouth stay open.

Most be configuration or some mod overwriting my mod files

 

 

Right now almost everything can be configured on the SexLab MCM. Rollback all the changes you did on the scripts and do this: 

 

1. Go to the "Expression Editor" page of the SexLab MCM and make click on the option that is on the right top called "To Edit OpenMouth & Lip Sync"

 

2. On the "OpenMouth & Lip Sync" page that you can see now scroll down to the bottom and you will see the 6 Lip Sync options.

 

3. The option "Move Time" is the one that allow you control the time that the mouth stay open. Try with 4.0 seconds. And set the "Sound Control" option on "CUT ON TIME" to make sure that the sound get stopped before close the mouth.

 

There you can control almost all except for the speed as the mouth move, but that's another story. First try with the configuration and if is not enough ask me again. The scripts are easy to change but is very delicates and any wrong modification can cause biggest issues. If the configuration is not enough and you are willing to become my tests subject i can tell you what change on the scripts but I will need feedback because I can't make the test with high FPS and not matter what values i set on the scripts, my PC at 30 FPS always show the same velocity to get the mouth open (slow motion).

[SexyTop69]

On 9/6/2022 at 11:59 AM, OsmelMC said:

Nope, "Ahegao HDT tongues" is probably the best Mod for ahegao but the reason why SLU+ include it's own Ahegao expressions is because both mods are incompatible and will never be 100% compatible.

 

You can force the Ahegao HDT tongues over the SLU+ or you can wait until the new SLU+ version be released in few days.

 

WARNING: aside that few error are expected if you force the Ahegao HDT tongues over the SLU+, also Ahegao HDT tongues have it's own expression system that makes useless the SexLab Expressions and that's why both mods are incompatible.

 

Oh thank you for letting me know. I actually didn't know SLU had it's own Ahegao tongues coming soon. Why would you say Ahegao HDT tongues is better than the version that you are implementing in SLU?

[powersexking]

8 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

 

In my game is smooth enough for my taste.

For i can see on your animation your biggest issue is the amount of time that the mouth stay open.

Most be configuration or some mod overwriting my mod files

 

 

Right now almost everything can be configured on the SexLab MCM. Rollback all the changes you did on the scripts and do this: 

 

1. Go to the "Expression Editor" page of the SexLab MCM and make click on the option that is on the right top called "To Edit OpenMouth & Lip Sync"

 

2. On the "OpenMouth & Lip Sync" page that you can see now scroll down to the bottom and you will see the 6 Lip Sync options.

 

3. The option "Move Time" is the one that allow you control the time that the mouth stay open. Try with 4.0 seconds. And set the "Sound Control" option on "CUT ON TIME" to make sure that the sound get stopped before close the mouth.

 

There you can control almost all except for the speed as the mouth move, but that's another story. First try with the configuration and if is not enough ask me again. The scripts are easy to change but is very delicates and any wrong modification can cause biggest issues. If the configuration is not enough and you are willing to become my tests subject i can tell you what change on the scripts but I will need feedback because I can't make the test with high FPS and not matter what values i set on the scripts, my PC at 30 FPS always show the same velocity to get the mouth open (slow motion).

 

Thank you for answer. I restored the script file as it was and tested it the way you told me.

But sadly it hasn't improved. I'm using Conditional Expressions Extended 1.3.10 (SE) for expressions.

Will this cause problems? I actually haven't been able to solve this problem for a very long time, so I gave up almost 3 years. It's okay if there's no way.

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, powersexking said:

 

Thank you for answer. I restored the script file as it was and tested it the way you told me.

But sadly it hasn't improved. I'm using Conditional Expressions Extended 1.3.10 (SE) for expressions.

Will this cause problems? I actually haven't been able to solve this problem for a very long time, so I gave up almost 3 years. It's okay if there's no way.

 

Conditional Expressions like all the expression related mods need a patch to work with SexLab. Otherwise both will try to take the control and will look bad.

 

I just downloaded the last version of "Conditional Expressions" a few days ago and already updated my patch.

 

Get the last version and the patch that i will share in few minutes.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/45148

 

The version you are using seems to be the one on LoversLab and the description says that is already patched so must be safe but is not the only expression related Mod you will find so better check if you have another expression Mod installed.

 

 

Edited September 8, 2022 by OsmelMC

[ShimizuModding]

i noticed theres a "sexlab face items" as an option. what are those?

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, ShimizuModding said:

i noticed theres a "sexlab face items" as an option. what are those?

Mostly the tongues. Should also allow your own equippable items if they use the same body slot that the tongues but for now the option to include the custom objects is disabled.

[OsmelMC]

12 hours ago, SexyTop69 said:

 

Oh thank you for letting me know. I actually didn't know SLU had it's own Ahegao tongues coming soon. Why would you say Ahegao HDT tongues is better than the version that you are implementing in SLU?

 

Yes SLU+ have it's own Ahegao expressions that comes disabled by default and can be edited like any other expression. But I think the last version have a Bug reported so better wait for the version I'm testing right now.

 

The "Ahegao HDT Tongues and Expressions for SexLab" is the best Mod for ahegao that I tried and in many subjects is being used as reference to develop the Ahegao on SLU+. Of course the Ahegao on SLU+ still report bug's and for that reason I can't say that my is better but I'm working on it and at the end should be the most friendly with the standard SexLab expressions. In fact the Ahegao on SLU+ is just the same SexLab expressions with few adjustments on the values and new options that allow you equip face items like the tongues.

 

To enable the Ahegao on the SLU+ just enabled the option to allow the Face Items on the Animation Settings and enable all the new Ahegao expressions that are on the Expression Editor page and come disabled by default. More details on the description of the download page...

[monty359]

17 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

 

Yes SLU+ have it's own Ahegao expressions that comes disabled by default and can be edited like any other expression. But I think the last version have a Bug reported so better wait for the version I'm testing right now.

 

The "Ahegao HDT Tongues and Expressions for SexLab" is the best Mod for ahegao that I tried and in many subjects is being used as reference to develop the Ahegao on SLU+. Of course the Ahegao on SLU+ still report bug's and for that reason I can't say that my is better but I'm working on it and at the end should be the most friendly with the standard SexLab expressions. In fact the Ahegao on SLU+ is just the same SexLab expressions with few adjustments on the values and new options that allow you equip face items like the tongues.

 

To enable the Ahegao on the SLU+ just enabled the option to allow the Face Items on the Animation Settings and enable all the new Ahegao expressions that are on the Expression Editor page and come disabled by default. More details on the description of the download page...

I tried it out, but the tongues were stretched to the ground. I use CPBC only. Can the tongues work with CPBC or do they require HDT?

 

If the tongues should work with CPBC, can you give some pointers, what can be done? CPBC works for me, I have collisions, and physics on males and females.

 

thanks

[OsmelMC]

4 hours ago, monty359 said:

I tried it out, but the tongues were stretched to the ground. I use CPBC only. Can the tongues work with CPBC or do they require HDT?

 

If the tongues should work with CPBC, can you give some pointers, what can be done? CPBC works for me, I have collisions, and physics on males and females.

 

thanks

You can use Fast SMP together with CPBC and work fine. Is all about the setup. I have both configured to deal with different parts of the body.

 

In theory should work only with CPBC, i suppose the tongue bones need to be added to the CPBC configuration in the same way that are added to the SMP but I have none experience on that.

 

I have to check but with my current knowledge i don't know if i can.

 

Will be the same with any Tongue with HDT of any Ahegao Mod unless someone already made the required changes.

 

You can get rid of the bones on the Tongues meshes with the NifTool and that should be enough to keep the tongue in place but will also remove it's movements. 

[sofzx]

Thank you so much for the updated and fixes. Have good day!

[SexyTop69]

Since you have furniture functionality in sexlab utility plus, is Furniture framework mod obsolete now or not needed? Also thank you for the recent update.

[OsmelMC]

5 minutes ago, SexyTop69 said:

Since you have furniture functionality in sexlab utility plus, is Furniture framework mod obsolete now or not needed? Also thank you for the recent update.

 

You tell me! My furniture system is older than "Furniture Sex Framework" but all the efforts of its author was turned on his furniture system while i was dealing with too many and different things at the same time on the SLU+ so my furniture system got behind on the race.

 

I think at this point both mods have the same functionality but in a different ways.

 

In my case I also include more support on: furniture types, furnitures from other mods and any new furniture animation.

 

As bad side I rely too much on the SLATE and my ActionLog to set the right tags on the animations and lake any SSE user knows SLATE is really slow on Skyrim SE/AE. But good news, i found a possible solution outside the game, to edit the JSON files directly automatically with my ActionLog as base and in just few seconds (now i have to make it true)

 

*** Most of the issues with my furniture systems are and are being caused by the ausense of the right tags on the animamations.

[pinkfluf]

Hi Osmel

 

Appreciate the update to Utility plus, do you have a version of Utility Plus without SLSO? I'm getting errors whenever I try to compile any script (via sublime or ck) that involves sexlab and it's related to slso. thanks

 

Spoiler

F:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\Scripts\Source\sslActorAlias.psc(3162,4): experience is not a variable
F:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\Scripts\Source\sslActorAlias.psc(3162,15): cannot compare a experience to a int (cast missing or types unrelated)

 

 

[FireSplitter]

7 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

 

You tell me! My furniture system is older than "Furniture Sex Framework" but all the efforts of its author was turned on his furniture system while i was dealing with too many and different things at the same time on the SLU+ so my furniture system got behind on the race.

 

I think at this point both mods have the same functionality but in a different ways.

 

In my case I also include more support on: furniture types, furnitures from other mods and any new furniture animation.

 

As bad side I rely too much on the SLATE and my ActionLog to set the right tags on the animations and lake any SSE user knows SLATE is really slow on Skyrim SE/AE. But good news, i found a possible solution outside the game, to edit the JSON files directly automatically with my ActionLog as base and in just few seconds (now i have to make it true)

 

*** Most of the issues with my furniture systems are and are being caused by the ausense of the right tags on the animamations.

So having both of them causes problems then? Should we chose one or the other? I would think that have both enabled may break stuff...

[OsmelMC]

On 9/10/2022 at 9:34 AM, FireSplitter said:

So having both of them causes problems then? Should we chose one or the other? I would think that have both enabled may break stuff...

This is a crippled version of the FSF that only have it's furniture marker's and is compatible with my SLU+

 

Crippled FurnitureMarkerSex for SLUplus.7z

 

Edited September 11, 2022 by OsmelMC

[OsmelMC]

4 hours ago, pinkfluf said:

Hi Osmel

 

Appreciate the update to Utility plus, do you have a version of Utility Plus without SLSO? I'm getting errors whenever I try to compile any script (via sublime or ck) that involves sexlab and it's related to slso. thanks

 

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F:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\Scripts\Source\sslActorAlias.psc(3162,4): experience is not a variable
F:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\Data\Scripts\Source\sslActorAlias.psc(3162,15): cannot compare a experience to a int (cast missing or types unrelated)

 

 

Of course not. The SLSO scripts on my SLU+ only become active when the SLSO is installed so i don't have the need for another version of the scripts.

 

That means that you probably need the source scripts of the SLSO to be able to compile but for i remember the communication between SexLab and SLSO if through the PapyrusUtil and the source files of the SLSO aren't required.

 

That error don't seems related with SLSO. Looks like you made the mistake of erase so line of script.

 

I recommend you to use the comparation plugin of the notepad++

Edited September 10, 2022 by OsmelMC

[pinkfluf]

19 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

 

That error don't seems related with SLSO. Looks like you made the mistake of erase so line of script.

I probably am missing a script somewhere related to SLSO, yesterday I compiled a simple script that used sexlab and it worked, today I installed SLU and the same simple script failed with the above error, disabling SLU and the script compiles. If I don't have SLU installed and just instal SLSO I still get an error compiling. 

 

[OsmelMC]

19 minutes ago, pinkfluf said:

I probably am missing a script somewhere related to SLSO, yesterday I compiled a simple script that used sexlab and it worked, today I installed SLU and the same simple script failed with the above error, disabling SLU and the script compiles. If I don't have SLU installed and just instal SLSO I still get an error compiling. 

 

Make sure that you are editing the same sslActorAlias file that you are compiling and find on my Mod files where the missing var is being defined on the sslActorAlias because for i remember that variable isn't hereditary.

 

[pinkfluf]

4 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

Make sure that you are editing the same sslActorAlias

Hi,

 

I'm not editing sslactoralias or any sexlab files, I've also noticed errors in papyrus (I should have saved the log!!) with other mods when slso edited sexlab files are enabled (cumshot etc). My guess is those mods were compiled against stock SL files, but adding a third party change into SL core files is throwing them out of synch. Anyway I've given up thanks for the help!

[FireSplitter]

Thanks for the furniture marker update.

 

I played a bit after updating SLAL and SLU (on AE) and I noticed something strange.

When in a defeat scene, at some point the crowd (assuming there are more enemies waiting) starts attacking something. It is not the player as they don't appear as enemies or the assaulting NPC. They just hit the air on where the scene is happening. This breaks the entire defeat scene in the end. 

 

I played with the load order a bit, and I think it might be related to the changes SLU does to SLSO. If I move the SLSO to overwrite SLU, the defeat scenes work fine. When I move back the SLU to overwrite SLSO the defeat scenes starts to misbehave again. 

[OsmelMC]

7 hours ago, FireSplitter said:

Thanks for the furniture marker update.

 

I played a bit after updating SLAL and SLU (on AE) and I noticed something strange.

When in a defeat scene, at some point the crowd (assuming there are more enemies waiting) starts attacking something. It is not the player as they don't appear as enemies or the assaulting NPC. They just hit the air on where the scene is happening. This breaks the entire defeat scene in the end. 

 

I played with the load order a bit, and I think it might be related to the changes SLU does to SLSO. If I move the SLSO to overwrite SLU, the defeat scenes work fine. When I move back the SLU to overwrite SLSO the defeat scenes starts to misbehave again. 

This is the new version of SexLab Defeat:

 

I don't think be the SLU+ but you can try disabling the "Wait idles" on the SexLab MCM.

 

 

 

 

[Tops34]

On 9/8/2022 at 2:56 PM, OsmelMC said:

I just downloaded the last version of "Conditional Expressions" a few days ago and already updated my patch.

 

Get the last version and the patch that i will share in few minutes.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/45148

Where can I find the patch? Your last is for 1.20 (in the download section).