OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

oblivionwithdongs · January 7, 2022

How does the Private Needs Discreet SSE patch work? Do I still need to re-save the plugin in the ck?

PippinTom · January 7, 2022

6 hours ago, N.Gamma said:

Hello I'm not quite sure if my problem comes from Sexlab Utility Pluss, but I thought I'd ask here!
My character and the NPC's cover themselves with their hands when they are naked, which also provides immersion, but is there any way to turn that off? maybe with a button press if your character finds it nice to walk around naked? If that does't work that would be something for the next update.^^

If you are using DAR, then EVG Conditional Idles can be the reason for this shy thing (or any other pack with similar animation). If so you can either uninstall whole pack or just delete specific directories, ones containing "modesty" animations for male and/or female PC and/or NPC.

Edited January 7, 2022 by PippinTom

maxsteiner · January 7, 2022

On 1/5/2022 at 2:37 PM, OsmelMC said:

After the SexLab

Ah. Well, duh, lol. Anyway, Your tip worked. Turning on ragdoll worked. No more ported to the giant camp. You not only do you make fantastic mods. You make good advice as well. Aren't you the best. Thanks man.

*OsmelMC* · January 8, 2022

5 hours ago, oblivionwithdongs said:

How does the Private Needs Discreet SSE patch work? Do I still need to re-save the plugin in the ck?

Bad.

The mod have too many issues at the point I should remove it from the downloads. Last issue I found show me that was making my scripts in general too slow because the way that use to apply the scripts was making copies of the actor scripts for each NPC on the game event when the actor don't use it.

I remove the mod and use the ReSaver to remove all the reference to the PND scripts from the saved game.

I'm working on the new version more lighter with "Dirt and Blood" and "iNeed" compatibility and widgets like those of the iNeed for the hangry and thirsty but in this case is for the bloater and blower.

oblivionwithdongs · January 8, 2022

15 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Bad.

The mod have too many issues at the point I should remove it from the downloads. Last issue I found show me that was making my scripts in general too slow because the way that use to apply the scripts was making copies of the actor scripts for each NPC on the game event when the actor don't use it.

I remove the mod and use the ReSaver to remove all the reference to the PND scripts from the saved game.

I'm working on the new version more lighter with "Dirt and Blood" and "iNeed" compatibility and widgets like those of the iNeed for the hangry and thirsty but in this case is for the bloater and blower.

Ah damn that's a shame, I always thought PND was supposed to be less bloated than other similar mods, it's such a shame there isn't one that just lets you poop/pee without adding a bunch of stuff to npcs or complex mechanics, I just wanna do stuff like take a crap on mercer's desk or piss on thalmor corpses lol.

Ragsinn · January 12, 2022

Greetings thanks for your excellent fixes. I have a small non game breaking issue. With the mod installed and a scene begins Slot 44 is unequipped no matter my strip settings in sexlab.

If I disable utilplus then slot 44 remains equipped . I play on LE and for me Utilplus is nessecary.

Spoiler

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 SexLab.esm
7 7 SGHairPackBase.esm
8 8 WM Flora Fixes.esp
9 9 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
10 a SexLabAroused.esm
11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm
12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm
13 d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
14 e Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
15 f High Poly Head.esm
16 10 CreatureFramework.esm
17 11 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
18 12 DynDOLOD.esm
19 13 HighResTexturePack01.esp
20 14 HighResTexturePack02.esp
21 15 HighResTexturePack03.esp
22 16 ABMM.esp
23 17 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
24 18 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
25 19 SLSO.esp
26 1a SexLabStopCombat.esp
27 1b SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
28 1c Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
29 1d summer_overhaul.esp
30 1e Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
31 1f Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
32 20 Immersive Jewelry.esp
33 21 Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
34 22 HentaiCreatures.esp
35 23 SexLab More Creatures.esp
36 24 BaboInteractiveDia.esp
37 25 MoreNastyCritters.esp
38 26 SexLab_Dialogues.esp
39 27 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
40 28 SL99Exchanger.esp
41 29 The Manipulator.esp
42 2a SGEyebrows.esp
43 2b SGHairPackAIO.esp
44 2c FWB_SexLabDisparity.esp
45 2d GoToBed.esp
46 2e FISS.esp
47 2f SkyUI.esp
48 30 KS Hairdo's.esp
49 31 AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp
50 32 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
51 33 SexLabUtil1.esp
52 34 Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
53 35 Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
54 36 Remodeled Armor.esp
55 37 SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
56 38 SL99Exchanger_Patch_Immersive Jewelry.esp
57 39 iNeed.esp
58 3a HDT Piercingsets.esp
59 3b SexlabLightMeUp.esp
60 3c Zarias_Piercings1.esp
61 3d Aves SkyPircing.esp
62 3e Cumshot.esp
63 3f CumshotSL.esp
64 40 SexLabDefeat.esp
65 41 DW.esp
66 42 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp
67 43 Devious Devices For Him.esp
68 44 Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
69 45 AnubAnimObj.esp
70 46 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esp
71 47 SLSO_PSA.esp
72 48 PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
73 49 SexLabTools.esp
74 4a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
75 4b SexLabMatchMaker.esp
76 4c NCK30Obj.esp
77 4d SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
78 4e SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
79 4f RaceMenuMorphsCOS.esp
80 50 SOSRaceMenu.esp
81 51 XPMSE.esp
82 52 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
83 53 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
84 54 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
85 55 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
86 56 RaceMenu.esp
87 57 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
88 58 SLAnimLoader.esp
89 59 FNIS.esp
90 5a FNISspells.esp
91 5b UIExtensions.esp
92 5c AddItemMenuLE.esp
93 5d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
94 5e DynDOLOD.esp

This is my mod list and loot sorted load order.

Any advice or pointing out a mistake i have made would be most helpful.

I appreciate your attention. Thanks in advance.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Ragsinn

*OsmelMC* · January 13, 2022

9 hours ago, Ragsinn said:

Greetings thanks for your excellent fixes. I have a small non game breaking issue. With the mod installed and a scene begins Slot 44 is unequipped no matter my strip settings in sexlab.

If I disable utilplus then slot 44 remains equipped . I play on LE and for me Utilplus is nessecary.

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0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 SexLab.esm
7 7 SGHairPackBase.esm
8 8 WM Flora Fixes.esp
9 9 ZaZAnimationPack.esm
10 a SexLabAroused.esm
11 b Devious Devices - Assets.esm
12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm
13 d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
14 e Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
15 f High Poly Head.esm
16 10 CreatureFramework.esm
17 11 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
18 12 DynDOLOD.esm
19 13 HighResTexturePack01.esp
20 14 HighResTexturePack02.esp
21 15 HighResTexturePack03.esp
22 16 ABMM.esp
23 17 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
24 18 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
25 19 SLSO.esp
26 1a SexLabStopCombat.esp
27 1b SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
28 1c Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
29 1d summer_overhaul.esp
30 1e Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
31 1f Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
32 20 Immersive Jewelry.esp
33 21 Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
34 22 HentaiCreatures.esp
35 23 SexLab More Creatures.esp
36 24 BaboInteractiveDia.esp
37 25 MoreNastyCritters.esp
38 26 SexLab_Dialogues.esp
39 27 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
40 28 SL99Exchanger.esp
41 29 The Manipulator.esp
42 2a SGEyebrows.esp
43 2b SGHairPackAIO.esp
44 2c FWB_SexLabDisparity.esp
45 2d GoToBed.esp
46 2e FISS.esp
47 2f SkyUI.esp
48 30 KS Hairdo's.esp
49 31 AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp
50 32 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
51 33 SexLabUtil1.esp
52 34 Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
53 35 Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
54 36 Remodeled Armor.esp
55 37 SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
56 38 SL99Exchanger_Patch_Immersive Jewelry.esp
57 39 iNeed.esp
58 3a HDT Piercingsets.esp
59 3b SexlabLightMeUp.esp
60 3c Zarias_Piercings1.esp
61 3d Aves SkyPircing.esp
62 3e Cumshot.esp
63 3f CumshotSL.esp
64 40 SexLabDefeat.esp
65 41 DW.esp
66 42 RohZima_AnimObjects.esp
67 43 Devious Devices For Him.esp
68 44 Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
69 45 AnubAnimObj.esp
70 46 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esp
71 47 SLSO_PSA.esp
72 48 PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
73 49 SexLabTools.esp
74 4a KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
75 4b SexLabMatchMaker.esp
76 4c NCK30Obj.esp
77 4d SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
78 4e SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
79 4f RaceMenuMorphsCOS.esp
80 50 SOSRaceMenu.esp
81 51 XPMSE.esp
82 52 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
83 53 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
84 54 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
85 55 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
86 56 RaceMenu.esp
87 57 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
88 58 SLAnimLoader.esp
89 59 FNIS.esp
90 5a FNISspells.esp
91 5b UIExtensions.esp
92 5c AddItemMenuLE.esp
93 5d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
94 5e DynDOLOD.esp

This is my mod list and loot sorted load order.

Any advice or pointing out a mistake i have made would be most helpful.

I appreciate your attention. Thanks in advance.

The new version come with a option to disable the ahegao tongues and now use the slot 61 instead of the 44 for the tongues. Any of those changes should solve your issue.

thedarkone1234 · January 13, 2022

I am back after a while and probably skipped a few versions here, but now that I am back for the new version today I find several new issues I don't recall having:

1. The camera shake doesn't work in the end of orgasms (I set it to 100% in the MCM and enabled it), instead, there is often a little freeze/stutter of the entire screen in the time it is supposed to happen.

2. Moaning while gagged again closes the mouth through the gag. I recall it got fixed by this mod some months ago (or it is a "refresh expressions" issue? Should I disable this setting?)

3. Most important, which I would consider a game breaking error: After sex my character cannot interact with anything, I mean I cannot press E next to containers/doors/people to interact with them, and it doesn't even show on the screen the usual "E talk Lydia" or "E search container", meaning something that probably locks away interactions for the duration of the sex fails to finish by the end of the animation. I can still walk, open inventory or hit people, and they will be hurt and react accordingly, just interactions with E won't work.

[Not sure if it might help debugging, but I hurt someone, started combat and triggered a DCL surrender. After the surrender E started working. So both sex and DCL surrender probably lock interactions the same way, thus DCL released it properly. Obviously this isn't good enough to be considered a workaround for each time I have sex, though]

Attaching a log of a sex scene after which interactions didn't work for a minute or so and then I immediatly exited the game to make sure it is the final thing the log has to say

Papyrus.0.log

*OsmelMC* · January 13, 2022

7 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

The camera shake doesn't work in the end of orgasms (I set it to 100% in the MCM and enabled it), instead, there is often a little freeze/stutter of the entire screen in the time it is supposed to happen.

The camera shakes only for the player if the Orgasm effects are Enabled and the "Shake Straight" option is bigger than 0 while you are in 3rd person camera. By the way have more sense on the First Person Camera but is being limited to the 3rd person camera since the v1.62 for LE and is probably to prevent some issue.

The camera shakes scripts aren't changed since I added the straight option. So must work like always unless you be playing on AE or something be wrong on your configuration.

I have to check anyway!

7 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Moaning while gagged again closes the mouth through the gag. I recall it got fixed by this mod some months ago (or it is a "refresh expressions" issue? Should I disable this setting?)

The Gags set the open mouth on the actor but just if the ZaZ and/or DDi filters are Enabled.

On the open mouth, the moans shouldn't close the mouth unless you be using some other mod like better blowjob's or some Ahegao mod. But you can check the Advanced Lips Sync configuration on the "Expression Editor" page since some configurations allow lips movement on the open mouth and in theory that can temporarily close the mouth.

For the activation problem try using this file:

sslActorAlias.pex

Edited January 13, 2022 by OsmelMC

thedarkone1234 · January 13, 2022

1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

The camera shakes only for the player if the Orgasm effects are Enabled and the "Shake Straight" option is bigger than 0 while you are in 3rd person camera. By the way have more sense on the First Person Camera but is being limited to the 3rd person camera since the v1.62 for LE and is probably to prevent some issue.

The camera shakes scripts aren't changed since I added the straight option. So must work like always unless you be playing on AE or something be wrong on your configuration.

I have to check anyway!

Was third person, 100% and enabled and I play on LE. I am not sure it is a new issue either, since I am not sure I checked the shake feature since it was initially added to SLU+. Since the screen does freeze for a second, I suppose something happens, it just doesn't look like a shake...

As for the gags, I did disable the DD filter so I can better test DDs own filter on its new version, so this is probably the issue.

If I use both this mod's filter and DD's filter, DD's filter should "win" because it comes later, right?

I will try to add that .pex you gave me later and report if it solved the third issue

*OsmelMC* · January 13, 2022

19 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

If I use both this mod's filter and DD's filter, DD's filter should "win" because it comes later, right?

Yes

*4nk8r* · January 13, 2022

On 1/8/2022 at 7:20 AM, oblivionwithdongs said:

Ah damn that's a shame, I always thought PND was supposed to be less bloated than other similar mods, it's such a shame there isn't one that just lets you poop/pee without adding a bunch of stuff to npcs or complex mechanics, I just wanna do stuff like take a crap on mercer's desk or piss on thalmor corpses lol.

thedarkone1234 · January 13, 2022

58 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Was third person, 100% and enabled and I play on LE. I am not sure it is a new issue either, since I am not sure I checked the shake feature since it was initially added to SLU+. Since the screen does freeze for a second, I suppose something happens, it just doesn't look like a shake...

As for the gags, I did disable the DD filter so I can better test DDs own filter on its new version, so this is probably the issue.

If I use both this mod's filter and DD's filter, DD's filter should "win" because it comes later, right?

I will try to add that .pex you gave me later and report if it solved the third issue

Alright, following up on that one:

Still no camera shake (double checked the settings, reduced to 95% in case 100 was bugged for some reason as an edge case). The stutter/freeze I mention happens sometimes but not all of the times, so it is hard to tell if it means anything.

Enabled the DD filter of SLU and gagged moans now move the mouth to be same as OpenMouth setting (the one for blowjobs), which is better than letting the mouth close, but is not exactly as not moving at all because I use gag-size racemenu plugin (to fit my character's mouth better) and it has different mouth settings for normal and big gags, so I can't set OpenMouth to fit both types. Could a future version make it so if gags are recognized, the lip sync for moans is simply reduced to 0% so they don't move no matter what the gag expression exactly looks like?

As for the worst problem, your .pex file solved it perfectly (Might want to fix the main download so other people don't get my issue)

Also, this one is not exactly new, but there is an odd phenomenon I see especially when females try to have sex with my character when she is bound in a complex way, I first of all get some male animation (often an unbound one), then 1 second after it starts it breaks and switches to a fitting bound animation. If only SLU's DD filter is enabled but DD's own filter is not enabled, sometimes the second animation it swithces to will be an unbound animation as well.

The recent example is chastity belt and armbinder, but it happens with hobble dresses and armbinders too, or either vagina blocking item and a yoke. Sharing a log that ends with my most recent such experience (in which both filters were active so the second animation was legal)

Papyrus.0.log

modball · January 13, 2022

Thanks for the update OsmelMC

Not sure if related to this mod but I have few other mods overwriting SL Framework:

When changing scene location ( ] default key) the timer used to be 7 seconds and now it is 30 which is a bit too long for my preference. Does this mod alter that? If not, any idea what I should be looking for to reduce this timeframe? Is this timer duration set in a script or in a plugin?

Garadon · January 14, 2022

Does anyone else on the most up-to-date version of AE have this issue when using Sexlab Utility Plus?

I removed all mods besides what was necessary (under a new save), and I still got the error. The issue goes away when Sexlab has priority over Sexlab Utility Plus, but then I can't use the mod. I changed out the scripts just to see what would happen (moving the Sexlab scripts to Sexlab Utility Plus), and the ones that "fix" the issue is sslSystemAlias.pex, sslSystemConfig.pex and sslSystemLibrary.pex (I tested and made sure everything worked fine and as far as I could tell, it did). But that then gives me this error every time.

I am guessing there is some kind of conflict between Sexlab and Sexlab Utility Plus on the newest version of AE where the two mods are trying to pull different runtimes up. I have a feeling that if I were to rollback to the first version of AE there wouldn't be an issue. Without Sexlab Utility Plus I don't have any issue, but I really want to use this mod especially as it fixes the "Time having sex" issue.

Edited January 14, 2022 by Garadon

maxsteiner · January 14, 2022

Quick question, how to add more anims to the "foreplay" in sexlab utility + ? When I go into the MCM and toggle anims section, I can tick the animations I want under the foreplay selection but even if I have ticked the "use foreplay" in the anims settings, I only get one or two animation. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, lol.

Oh! And I posted a bit back that I'v was having real problems with my PC droppin through the map or teleported to the giant camp after sex scene end. Well, after trying everything I could think of and then some, in a last hail Mary attempt I reinstalled SKSE and that (fingers crossed) seams to have fixed it. Yay me

feodor.icon · January 14, 2022

How and where can I download SexLab Aroused Creatures SE/LE v04.08 (Tweak) ?

NicoleDragoness · January 14, 2022

17 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Still no camera shake

Of course you are NOT using Free Camera mode during sex scenes, right? Because it causes the shake effect to disappear (and even a lot of other things like subtitles from NPC's who talk while someone or the Player has sex. And the tongues go stuck on characters with Free Camera active, or are not equipped at all).

18 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

The stutter/freeze I mention happens sometimes but not all of the times, so it is hard to tell if it means anything.

It happens to me also, normally at the first stage of the animation. It seems related to something with the undress mechanic and/or the "inventorizing" of the dress items.

Maybe it's more present because the tongues from Ahegao expressions too.

thedarkone1234 · January 14, 2022

1 hour ago, NicoleDragoness said:

Of course you are NOT using Free Camera mode during sex scenes, right? Because it causes the shake effect to disappear (and even a lot of other things like subtitles from NPC's who talk while someone or the Player has sex. And the tongues go stuck on characters with Free Camera active, or are not equipped at all).

Actually I sometimes do, but not all the time, but since this habit of mine never changed and I used to see camera shake fine, I am not sure why would it have issues...

I am 99% sure I used to see the camera shake on free camera before.

*OsmelMC* · January 14, 2022

17 hours ago, modball said:

Thanks for the update OsmelMC

Not sure if related to this mod but I have few other mods overwriting SL Framework:

When changing scene location ( ] default key) the timer used to be 7 seconds and now it is 30 which is a bit too long for my preference. Does this mod alter that? If not, any idea what I should be looking for to reduce this timeframe? Is this timer duration set in a script or in a plugin?

Is this mod. I increase the time because I'm using "Go to bed" and the previous time was not enough to allow me use the bed.

Is not a problem because you can use the hotkey again to force the end of the time.

So you just need to press the hotkey again when you be on your destination.

*OsmelMC* · January 14, 2022

13 hours ago, Garadon said:

Does anyone else on the most up-to-date version of AE have this issue when using Sexlab Utility Plus?

I removed all mods besides what was necessary (under a new save), and I still got the error. The issue goes away when Sexlab has priority over Sexlab Utility Plus, but then I can't use the mod. I changed out the scripts just to see what would happen (moving the Sexlab scripts to Sexlab Utility Plus), and the ones that "fix" the issue is sslSystemAlias.pex, sslSystemConfig.pex and sslSystemLibrary.pex (I tested and made sure everything worked fine and as far as I could tell, it did). But that then gives me this error every time.

I am guessing there is some kind of conflict between Sexlab and Sexlab Utility Plus on the newest version of AE where the two mods are trying to pull different runtimes up. I have a feeling that if I were to rollback to the first version of AE there wouldn't be an issue. Without Sexlab Utility Plus I don't have any issue, but I really want to use this mod especially as it fixes the "Time having sex" issue.

I not sure about the first, but the second picture can be fixed with just remove the scripts files "SexLabUtil" from the "SexLab Utility Plus"

The file is there to fix one issue on the v1.64b but also that file comes with the version number and need to be specific for each SexLab version. I hope Ashal be fixed that on the v1.64c so you better remove the file "SexLabUtil.pex" from the "SexLab Utility Plus" scripts folder

*OsmelMC* · January 14, 2022

59 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Actually I sometimes do, but not all the time, but since this habit of mine never changed and I used to see camera shake fine, I am not sure why would it have issues...

I am 99% sure I used to see the camera shake on free camera before.

Free camera is not 3rd person camera and is being limited to the 3rd person since always.

I usually don't care about the camera shakes on the Orgasm so I use to keep it low. But I did my tests on 90% and works without problem

By the way, even if I change the scripts to allow the camera shakes on first person I definitely won't allow it on free camera mode

Edited January 14, 2022 by OsmelMC

*OsmelMC* · January 14, 2022

6 hours ago, maxsteiner said:

Quick question, how to add more anims to the "foreplay" in sexlab utility + ? When I go into the MCM and toggle anims section, I can tick the animations I want under the foreplay selection but even if I have ticked the "use foreplay" in the anims settings, I only get one or two animation. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, lol.

You have just few lead-in animations because the animation author's usually don't care about make those animations.

But you can convert the normal animations on leadIn animations with just add the "LeadIn" tag to the animation tag.

By the way foreplay and LeadIn are the same but SexLab only recognize the LeadIn tag.

You can add the tag to the animations using the Toggle Animations page of the SexLab MCM or with the SLATE mod on my tweak list.

feodor.icon · January 14, 2022

SexLab Aroused Creatures SE/LE v04.08 (Tweak) listed on the description page, but not in the download list.

modball · January 14, 2022

3 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

So you just need to press the hotkey again when you be on your destination.

I had no idea it also worked like that, thanks!

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