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Hello I'm not quite sure if my problem comes from Sexlab Utility Pluss, but I thought I'd ask here!
My character and the NPC's cover themselves with their hands when they are naked, which also provides immersion, but is there any way to turn that off? maybe with a button press if your character finds it nice to walk around naked? If that does't work that would be something for the next update.^^

Posted
1 hour ago, N.Gamma said:

Hello I'm not quite sure if my problem comes from Sexlab Utility Pluss, but I thought I'd ask here!
My character and the NPC's cover themselves with their hands when they are naked, which also provides immersion, but is there any way to turn that off? maybe with a button press if your character finds it nice to walk around naked? If that does't work that would be something for the next update.^^

 

If you have DCL (deviously cursed loot), it is probably that. Look in the MCM and disable it there

Posted
1 hour ago, thedarkone1234 said:

f you have DCL (deviously cursed loot), it is probably that. Look in the MCM and disable it there

No, I have not installed that.

Posted
2 hours ago, N.Gamma said:

Hello I'm not quite sure if my problem comes from Sexlab Utility Pluss, but I thought I'd ask here!
My character and the NPC's cover themselves with their hands when they are naked, which also provides immersion, but is there any way to turn that off? maybe with a button press if your character finds it nice to walk around naked? If that does't work that would be something for the next update.^^

There are few mods with that effect. I'm not sure of the names but probably SexLab Hormones, SL Stories or SexLab adventures. In most of the cases the effect disappear once the actor become Exhibitionist and meanwhile I usually jump to temporarily disable the effect.

The Exhibitionist is a faction you can add on the SexLab Arousal by yourself or wait until the player get used to be naked and some mod give him the faction.

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, N.Gamma said:

Hello I'm not quite sure if my problem comes from Sexlab Utility Pluss, but I thought I'd ask here!
My character and the NPC's cover themselves with their hands when they are naked, which also provides immersion, but is there any way to turn that off? maybe with a button press if your character finds it nice to walk around naked? If that does't work that would be something for the next update.^^

If you are using DAR, then EVG Conditional Idles can be the reason for this shy thing (or any other pack with similar animation). If so you can either uninstall whole pack or just delete specific directories, ones containing "modesty" animations for male and/or female PC and/or NPC.

Edited by PippinTom
Posted
On 1/5/2022 at 2:37 PM, OsmelMC said:

After the SexLab

Ah. Well, duh, lol. Anyway, Your tip worked. Turning on ragdoll worked. No more ported to the giant camp. You not only do you make fantastic mods. You make good advice as well. Aren't you the best. Thanks man.

Posted
5 hours ago, oblivionwithdongs said:

How does the Private Needs Discreet SSE patch work? Do I still need to re-save the plugin in the ck?

Bad. 

The mod have too many issues at the point I should remove it from the downloads. Last issue I found show me that was making my scripts in general too slow because the way that use to apply the scripts was making copies of the actor scripts for each NPC on the game event when the actor don't use it.

 

I remove the mod and use the ReSaver to remove all the reference to the PND scripts from the saved game.

 

 

 

I'm working on the new version more lighter with "Dirt and Blood" and "iNeed" compatibility and widgets like those of the iNeed for the hangry and thirsty but in this case is for the bloater and blower.

Posted
15 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Bad. 

The mod have too many issues at the point I should remove it from the downloads. Last issue I found show me that was making my scripts in general too slow because the way that use to apply the scripts was making copies of the actor scripts for each NPC on the game event when the actor don't use it.

 

I remove the mod and use the ReSaver to remove all the reference to the PND scripts from the saved game.

 

 

 

I'm working on the new version more lighter with "Dirt and Blood" and "iNeed" compatibility and widgets like those of the iNeed for the hangry and thirsty but in this case is for the bloater and blower.

Ah damn that's a shame, I always thought PND was supposed to be less bloated than other similar mods, it's such a shame there isn't one that just lets you poop/pee without adding a bunch of stuff to npcs or complex mechanics, I just wanna do stuff like take a crap on mercer's desk or piss on thalmor corpses lol.

Posted (edited)

Greetings thanks for your excellent fixes. I have a small non game breaking issue. With the mod installed and a scene begins Slot 44 is unequipped no matter my strip settings in sexlab.

If I disable utilplus then slot 44 remains equipped . I play on LE and for me Utilplus is nessecary.

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     SGHairPackBase.esm
  8  8     WM Flora Fixes.esp
  9  9     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 10  a     SexLabAroused.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 13  d     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 14  e     Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
 15  f     High Poly Head.esm
 16 10     CreatureFramework.esm
 17 11     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 18 12     DynDOLOD.esm
 19 13     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 20 14     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 21 15     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 22 16     ABMM.esp
 23 17     InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
 24 18     Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
 25 19     SLSO.esp
 26 1a     SexLabStopCombat.esp
 27 1b     SexLabWorkingGirl.esp
 28 1c     Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
 29 1d     summer_overhaul.esp
 30 1e     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
 31 1f     Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
 32 20     Immersive Jewelry.esp
 33 21     Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
 34 22     HentaiCreatures.esp
 35 23     SexLab More Creatures.esp
 36 24     BaboInteractiveDia.esp
 37 25     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 38 26     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 39 27     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 40 28     SL99Exchanger.esp
 41 29     The Manipulator.esp
 42 2a     SGEyebrows.esp
 43 2b     SGHairPackAIO.esp
 44 2c     FWB_SexLabDisparity.esp
 45 2d     GoToBed.esp
 46 2e     FISS.esp
 47 2f     SkyUI.esp
 48 30     KS Hairdo's.esp
 49 31     AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp
 50 32     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 51 33     SexLabUtil1.esp
 52 34     Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
 53 35     Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
 54 36     Remodeled Armor.esp
 55 37     SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
 56 38     SL99Exchanger_Patch_Immersive Jewelry.esp
 57 39     iNeed.esp
 58 3a     HDT Piercingsets.esp
 59 3b     SexlabLightMeUp.esp
 60 3c     Zarias_Piercings1.esp
 61 3d     Aves SkyPircing.esp
 62 3e     Cumshot.esp
 63 3f     CumshotSL.esp
 64 40     SexLabDefeat.esp
 65 41     DW.esp
 66 42     RohZima_AnimObjects.esp
 67 43     Devious Devices For Him.esp
 68 44     Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
 69 45     AnubAnimObj.esp
 70 46     Expressive Facegen Morphs.esp
 71 47     SLSO_PSA.esp
 72 48     PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
 73 49     SexLabTools.esp
 74 4a     KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
 75 4b     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 76 4c     NCK30Obj.esp
 77 4d     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 78 4e     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 79 4f     RaceMenuMorphsCOS.esp
 80 50     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 81 51     XPMSE.esp
 82 52     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 83 53     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 84 54     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 85 55     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 86 56     RaceMenu.esp
 87 57     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 88 58     SLAnimLoader.esp
 89 59     FNIS.esp
 90 5a     FNISspells.esp
 91 5b     UIExtensions.esp
 92 5c     AddItemMenuLE.esp
 93 5d     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 94 5e     DynDOLOD.esp
 

This is my mod list and loot sorted load order.

Any advice or pointing out a mistake i have made would be most helpful.

 

I appreciate your attention. Thanks in advance.

Edited by Ragsinn
Posted
9 hours ago, Ragsinn said:

Greetings thanks for your excellent fixes. I have a small non game breaking issue. With the mod installed and a scene begins Slot 44 is unequipped no matter my strip settings in sexlab.

If I disable utilplus then slot 44 remains equipped . I play on LE and for me Utilplus is nessecary.

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This is my mod list and loot sorted load order.

Any advice or pointing out a mistake i have made would be most helpful.

 

I appreciate your attention. Thanks in advance.

The new version come with a option to disable the ahegao tongues and now use the slot 61 instead of the 44 for the tongues. Any of those changes should solve your issue.

Posted

I am back after a while and probably skipped a few versions here, but now that I am back for the new version today I find several new issues I don't recall having:

 

1. The camera shake doesn't work in the end of orgasms (I set it to 100% in the MCM and enabled it), instead, there is often a little freeze/stutter of the entire screen in the time it is supposed to happen.

 

2. Moaning while gagged again closes the mouth through the gag. I recall it got fixed by this mod some months ago (or it is a "refresh expressions" issue? Should I disable this setting?)

 

3. Most important, which I would consider a game breaking error: After sex my character cannot interact with anything, I mean I cannot press E next to containers/doors/people to interact with them, and it doesn't even show on the screen the usual "E talk Lydia" or "E search container", meaning something that probably locks away interactions for the duration of the sex fails to finish by the end of the animation. I can still walk, open inventory or hit people, and they will be hurt and react accordingly, just interactions with E won't work.

[Not sure if it might help debugging, but I hurt someone, started combat and triggered a DCL surrender. After the surrender E started working. So both sex and DCL surrender probably lock interactions the same way, thus DCL released it properly. Obviously this isn't good enough to be considered a workaround for each time I have sex, though]

 

Attaching a log of a sex scene after which interactions didn't work for a minute or so and then I immediatly exited the game to make sure it is the final thing the log has to say

Papyrus.0.log

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

The camera shake doesn't work in the end of orgasms (I set it to 100% in the MCM and enabled it), instead, there is often a little freeze/stutter of the entire screen in the time it is supposed to happen.

 

The camera shakes only for the player if the Orgasm effects are Enabled and the "Shake Straight" option is bigger than 0 while you are in 3rd person camera. By the way have more sense on the First Person Camera but is being limited to the 3rd person camera since the v1.62 for LE and is probably to prevent some issue.

 

The camera shakes scripts aren't changed since I added the straight option. So must work like always unless you be playing on AE or something be wrong on your configuration. 

I have to check anyway!

 

 

7 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Moaning while gagged again closes the mouth through the gag. I recall it got fixed by this mod some months ago (or it is a "refresh expressions" issue? Should I disable this setting?)

 

The Gags set the open mouth on the actor but just if the ZaZ and/or DDi filters are Enabled.

 

On the open mouth, the moans shouldn't close the mouth unless you be using some other mod like better blowjob's or some Ahegao mod. But you can check the Advanced Lips Sync configuration on the "Expression Editor" page since some configurations allow lips movement on the open mouth and in theory that can temporarily close the mouth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the activation problem try using this file:

 

sslActorAlias.pex

Edited by OsmelMC
Posted
1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

 

The camera shakes only for the player if the Orgasm effects are Enabled and the "Shake Straight" option is bigger than 0 while you are in 3rd person camera. By the way have more sense on the First Person Camera but is being limited to the 3rd person camera since the v1.62 for LE and is probably to prevent some issue.

 

The camera shakes scripts aren't changed since I added the straight option. So must work like always unless you be playing on AE or something be wrong on your configuration. 

I have to check anyway!

 

Was third person, 100% and enabled and I play on LE. I am not sure it is a new issue either, since I am not sure I checked the shake feature since it was initially added to SLU+. Since the screen does freeze for a second, I suppose something happens, it just doesn't look like a shake...

 

 

As for the gags, I did disable the DD filter so I can better test DDs own filter on its new version, so this is probably the issue.

If I use both this mod's filter and DD's filter, DD's filter should "win" because it comes later, right?

 

I will try to add that .pex you gave me later and report if it solved the third issue

Posted
19 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

If I use both this mod's filter and DD's filter, DD's filter should "win" because it comes later, right?

Yes

Posted
On 1/8/2022 at 7:20 AM, oblivionwithdongs said:

Ah damn that's a shame, I always thought PND was supposed to be less bloated than other similar mods, it's such a shame there isn't one that just lets you poop/pee without adding a bunch of stuff to npcs or complex mechanics, I just wanna do stuff like take a crap on mercer's desk or piss on thalmor corpses lol.

 

Posted
58 minutes ago, thedarkone1234 said:

 

Was third person, 100% and enabled and I play on LE. I am not sure it is a new issue either, since I am not sure I checked the shake feature since it was initially added to SLU+. Since the screen does freeze for a second, I suppose something happens, it just doesn't look like a shake...

 

 

As for the gags, I did disable the DD filter so I can better test DDs own filter on its new version, so this is probably the issue.

If I use both this mod's filter and DD's filter, DD's filter should "win" because it comes later, right?

 

I will try to add that .pex you gave me later and report if it solved the third issue


Alright, following up on that one:

 

Still no camera shake (double checked the settings, reduced to 95% in case 100 was bugged for some reason as an edge case). The stutter/freeze I mention happens sometimes but not all of the times, so it is hard to tell if it means anything.

 

Enabled the DD filter of SLU and gagged moans now move the mouth to be same as OpenMouth setting (the one for blowjobs), which is better than letting the mouth close, but is not exactly as not moving at all because I use gag-size racemenu plugin (to fit my character's mouth better) and it has different mouth settings for normal and big gags, so I can't set OpenMouth to fit both types. Could a future version make it so if gags are recognized, the lip sync for moans is simply reduced to 0% so they don't move no matter what the gag expression exactly looks like?

 

As for the worst problem, your .pex file solved it perfectly :) (Might want to fix the main download so other people don't get my issue)

 

Also, this one is not exactly new, but there is an odd phenomenon I see especially when females try to have sex with my character when she is bound in a complex way, I first of all get some male animation (often an unbound one), then 1 second after it starts it breaks and switches to a fitting bound animation. If only SLU's DD filter is enabled but DD's own filter is not enabled, sometimes the second animation it swithces to will be an unbound animation as well.

 

The recent example is chastity belt and armbinder, but it happens with hobble dresses and armbinders too, or either vagina blocking item and a yoke. Sharing a log that ends with my most recent such experience (in which both filters were active so the second animation was legal)

Papyrus.0.log

Posted

Thanks for the update OsmelMC

 

Not sure if related to this mod but I have few other mods overwriting SL Framework:

 

When changing scene location ( ] default key) the timer used to be 7 seconds and now it is 30 which is a bit too long for my preference. Does this mod alter that? If not, any idea what I should be looking for to reduce this timeframe? Is this timer duration set in a script or in a plugin?

 

Posted (edited)

Does anyone else on the most up-to-date version of AE have this issue when using Sexlab Utility Plus?
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I removed all mods besides what was necessary (under a new save), and I still got the error. The issue goes away when Sexlab has priority over Sexlab Utility Plus, but then I can't use the mod. I changed out the scripts just to see what would happen (moving the Sexlab scripts to Sexlab Utility Plus), and the ones that "fix" the issue is sslSystemAlias.pex, sslSystemConfig.pex and sslSystemLibrary.pex (I tested and made sure everything worked fine and as far as I could tell, it did). But that then gives me this error every time.

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I am guessing there is some kind of conflict between Sexlab and Sexlab Utility Plus on the newest version of AE where the two mods are trying to pull different runtimes up. I have a feeling that if I were to rollback to the first version of AE there wouldn't be an issue. Without Sexlab Utility Plus I don't have any issue, but I really want to use this mod especially as it fixes the "Time having sex" issue.

Edited by Garadon
Posted

Quick question, how to add more anims to the "foreplay" in sexlab utility + ? When I go into the MCM and toggle anims section, I can tick the animations I want under the foreplay selection but even if I have ticked the "use foreplay" in the anims settings, I only get one or two animation. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, lol. 

Oh! And I posted a bit back that I'v was having real problems with my PC droppin through the map or teleported to the giant camp after sex scene end. Well, after trying everything I could think of and then some, in a last hail Mary attempt I reinstalled SKSE and that (fingers crossed) seams to have fixed it. Yay me :)

Posted
17 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Still no camera shake

Of course you are NOT using Free Camera mode during sex scenes, right? Because it causes the shake effect to disappear (and even a lot of other things like subtitles from NPC's who talk while someone or the Player has sex. And the tongues go stuck on characters with Free Camera active, or are not equipped at all).

 

18 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

The stutter/freeze I mention happens sometimes but not all of the times, so it is hard to tell if it means anything.

It happens to me also, normally at the first stage of the animation. It seems related to something with the undress mechanic and/or the "inventorizing" of the dress items.

Maybe it's more present because the tongues from Ahegao expressions too.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, NicoleDragoness said:

Of course you are NOT using Free Camera mode during sex scenes, right? Because it causes the shake effect to disappear (and even a lot of other things like subtitles from NPC's who talk while someone or the Player has sex. And the tongues go stuck on characters with Free Camera active, or are not equipped at all).

 

 

Actually I sometimes do, but not all the time, but since this habit of mine never changed and I used to see camera shake fine, I am not sure why would it have issues...

 

I am 99% sure I used to see the camera shake on free camera before.

Posted
17 hours ago, modball said:

Thanks for the update OsmelMC

 

Not sure if related to this mod but I have few other mods overwriting SL Framework:

 

When changing scene location ( ] default key) the timer used to be 7 seconds and now it is 30 which is a bit too long for my preference. Does this mod alter that? If not, any idea what I should be looking for to reduce this timeframe? Is this timer duration set in a script or in a plugin?

 

Is this mod. I increase the time because I'm using "Go to bed" and the previous time was not enough to allow me use the bed.

 

Is not a problem because you can use the hotkey again to force the end of the time.

 

So you just need to press the hotkey again when you be on your destination.

Posted
13 hours ago, Garadon said:

Does anyone else on the most up-to-date version of AE have this issue when using Sexlab Utility Plus?
20220113183731_1.thumb.jpg.1d525357689a9c1b9e058a6bafe916cf.jpg
I removed all mods besides what was necessary (under a new save), and I still got the error. The issue goes away when Sexlab has priority over Sexlab Utility Plus, but then I can't use the mod. I changed out the scripts just to see what would happen (moving the Sexlab scripts to Sexlab Utility Plus), and the ones that "fix" the issue is sslSystemAlias.pex, sslSystemConfig.pex and sslSystemLibrary.pex (I tested and made sure everything worked fine and as far as I could tell, it did). But that then gives me this error every time.

20220113190110_1.thumb.jpg.3e4ab2b821bf7a06b5d11666c3d37c02.jpg

I am guessing there is some kind of conflict between Sexlab and Sexlab Utility Plus on the newest version of AE where the two mods are trying to pull different runtimes up. I have a feeling that if I were to rollback to the first version of AE there wouldn't be an issue. Without Sexlab Utility Plus I don't have any issue, but I really want to use this mod especially as it fixes the "Time having sex" issue.

 

 

I not sure about the first, but the second picture can be fixed with just remove the scripts files "SexLabUtil" from the  "SexLab Utility Plus" 

 

The file is there to fix one issue on the v1.64b but also that file comes with the version number and need to be specific for each SexLab version. I hope Ashal be fixed that on the v1.64c so you better remove the file "SexLabUtil.pex" from the "SexLab Utility Plus" scripts folder

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