Jexsam Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Anyone who needs to lean on the concept of chivalry in order to do nice things for other people isn't a nice person to start with.
Daedric_Cat Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Kendo 2 said: Far Left Rag MOCKS Failures Of Young Men as HILARIOUS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAIcKS7wVGk So is there any wonder that men are rejecting chivalry? BTW, Tim Pool is a progressive. EDIT: and I can't believe I agree with gregathit. I need to do some soul-searching. ? LOl, I was going to post his! Leftists need to take the message of this video seriously, very seriously. As for chivalry, why must people read so damn much into this? It's part and parcel of the actions and words of white people constantly being scrutinized -policed- for racism. White men scrutinized for misogyny. As for chivalry, as I have read in a book about etiquette, was designed for orderly procession in a polite society. Nothing more. A man walked on the outside because his sword would otherwise get caught in the woman's long skirts should he need to draw it, so on. It was pragmantic. Maybe you individually don't see the need for it for whatever reason these days, but it doesn't mean that others who do practice it have nefarious ulterior motives. Men and women used to be raised with it, and some want to see this not die away.
Darkpig Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Chivalry is dead ? Explanation: Unicorns Chivalry = Unicorns Just because you believe in unicorns doesn't make them any more real. This is a fact. Edit: Wow this thread has gotten salty. Well a wise man once said pull out dammit!
KoolHndLuke Posted March 31, 2019 Author Posted March 31, 2019 Maybe the Russians have it right? An article I found gives some insight on chivalry in Russia. A few quotes; "Russians do not refer to women as “the weaker sex”—nor do they think women are weak at all—but instead women are “the prettier sex.”- that sounds reasonable to me. "Men generally act in a way that Americans would describe as “gentleman-like.” They give up their seats on the metro, hold out a hand to help you off a bus, and hold doors open for women, even if they are strangers."- seems it depends greatly on where you are in the world. "The gender roles of men in Russia have nothing to do with the idea of women needing their help. On the contrary, men help women because they are women, i.e. “the prettier sex.”"- a simple difference in philosophical approach. But seems to be significant enough that it was still widely accepted not to long ago and maybe still is today. Interestingly enough, Bushido- the Japanese equivalent of Chivalry has all but disappeared in their culture except in sports from what I understand. The principals of the code did "evolve" several times in response to changing times. At first it was loyalty to the country, then loyalty to the emperor, and finally loyalty to the company which died out in economic troubles in the 90's. My impression is that Bushido or "way of the warrior" was more of a way of rallying the nation to cooperate in order to excel- mostly in war, but also in business. But it is suggested that Bushido was a cornerstone in the forming of modern Japanese society. I would think this to be true of every other society as well. Chivalry- in my mind- is to live by a set of virtues that you determine and no one else, rather than to live by a rigid set of ideals in accordance with a singular, dominating belief. It can be influenced by politics, religion, the teachings of your parents and family, the virtues of others such as your friends and your enemies. And virtues are the value(s) that we place upon our core beliefs of right and wrong. I would say they are our core beliefs, but that can't be true because we sometimes compromise them in different situations. The key virtue of Chivalry is honor I think. Not honor to your lord, or honor to your company, or honor on a battlefield, but honor to yourself in that you are true to yourself above all and will not compromise that for anything. "To thine own self be true. And it must follow, as the night the day. Thou canst not then be false to any man/Farewell, my blessing season this in thee!”- William Shakespeare
porkybork Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Your attention, please! It's... it's a fucking big ass block of text down there. Wouldn't recommend it for the faint of heart, soul, mind, body, or penis, especially penis. No homo, of course. Spoiler Alright, my dudes, let's peel this fucking onion. 18 hours ago, gregathit said: And now the PC grammar police with their jack boots come stomping in to tell everyone else what their interpretation of a word is. Correction, not their interpretation, what YOUR interpretation should be. And this is why I absolutely refuse to buy off on ANY of these new so called ideals or words/phrases. Because all of them are nothing more than speech/thought policing. Won't work on folks like me. Sorry. I guess talking about history is now considered thought policing... and grammar, apparently. These aren't my interpretations, these are the conclusions I've reached using the info I have at my disposal. I was just giving some background info before I moved on to my other points. 18 hours ago, gregathit said: Who says I can't be a knight? Who are you to make that decision? Who are you to tell me what my interpretation of chivalric code is? We all know that this isn't the 16th or 18th century and that word meanings can change, right? When I talk about the chivalric code, I mean protecting the weak/poor and following the golden rule. I think most folks interpret this similarly. I think we can both agree that very few folks have read Edmund Burke (I sure as hell haven't) so we can rule that out on making some massive global impact. Hey, man, you wanna be a knight so bad, go talk to the Queen of England. And if that's what you interpret the chivalric code as being, good on you. Just know that your interpretation is independent of the real thing. Also, the mark of a work's impact isn't necessarily dependent on the amount of people that have read the source material. How many people do you think have actually read Adam Smith's works? Probably not that many, not even during his own lifetime. Does that mean his ideas have had little impact on the world? Well, seeing as to how the most affluent countries in the world practice capitalism to some degree and since Smith is often regarded as the Father of Economics, I'd have to say no. Usually people learn about things by people within their circle (family, friends, teachers) rather than reading about it, because, "why read something, when someone I trust can tell me about it instead?" Same applies to Burke. A few people read his work, liked it, then they spread Burke's ideas to the people within their circles. 18 hours ago, gregathit said: Bottom line, speech policing is bad. Instead, find out what folks are really trying to say. I think we can all agree that following the golden rule is ideal. Yeah, because saying that chivalry is bullshit is totally the same thing as wanting to punish people for saying certain things. /s Those last two sentences are hysterical considering the rest of your reply, btw. 18 hours ago, gregathit said: Oh, I especially enjoyed the snide attack on traditional values. Priceless. Too bad the same yardstick isn't used on all of all of the liberal philosophies out there. Not one single thing they have to say would meet the "so what" test. I'm so using that from now on when I argue with any feminist, liberal or like minded individual. Thank you. This should entertain me for the rest of my life as I tell them their thoughts/policies/arguments don't pass the "so what" test and watch them freak out. Haha criticism = attack now too, I guess. Also, you keep bringing up liberals and left-wingers despite me never going after conservatives and right-wingers. Do you think I have it out for people on the right, the same way you have it out for the left (and don't say that I'm wrong or putting words in your mouth, you've made it pretty clear by now that you hate the left)? Cause I don't. I care about people's ideas, not their point on a political spectrum. I don't look for shit to respond to, I respond to whatever I happen to come across (like this thread). It just so happened that the topic at hand was chivalry, something that I believe to be flawed. If I come across an idea that I disagree with or find stupid, I'm gonna say something. Here's a list of things/people spouting left-leaning ideology that I think are dumb: "Natty" a webcomic where a violent radfem murders the shit out of strawmen "Assigned Male" a webcomic that tries to address a serious topic, but ends up alienating trans people instead Gazi Kodzo, a racial segregationist who thinks that all interracial relationships are nonconsensual And here're some right-winger things that I think are dumb: Pretty much anything made by Jay "I'm a super badass objectivist" Naylor Caiden Cowger (I know it's an old video, but it's not like he's gotten any smarter since then) Jesse Lee Peterson (linking a FTT video because fuck JLP) I don't care what side you're on, if you say something stupid, I'm going to point it out. Speaking of which... 18 hours ago, gregathit said: I reject your interpretation of Chivalry and I also utterly reject your platinum rule. Why do I reject your platinum rule? Because it is pure and utter nonsense. Seriously. How in the wide fucking world of sports am I supposed to know how someone wants to be treated? That is precisely the mind numbingly stupid diatribe that Kendo2 was saying is hilarious. Fabulously hilarious in fact. So since I can't possibly know what you are thinking, do I just guess? Wow. Just Wow. Talk about massive confusion! I guess we can throw manners out the window and just wing it. So......let's follow this logically: do I open the door for a woman, grab her by the pussy, spit on her, say hi, ignore her, look at her hair, look at her shoes, turn my back to her, try to act natural, salute, take a selfie of my wiener..................? I'm so fucking confused. Maybe you can make one of those deals you shake and it gives you the proper response. Can't you just see everyone walking around with one of those things, furiously shaking them to see what they should do every time the encounter someone else.? That's your platinum rule right there: total chaos. Brilliant. I predict the suicide rate will climb by 30 percent as folks loose all hope of ever guessing what the proper response to other people is. It has zero to do with mutual respect or understanding. Those things aren't realistically possible with total strangers now are they? Of course, there is no denying some good things might actually come about with this, like facebook and twitter dying out completely. ROFL!!!! Seriously, did you hit your head before you typed this out? There's a lot in here to unpack, so I'll take it down bit by bit. I reject your interpretation of Chivalry and I also utterly reject your platinum rule. Why do I reject your platinum rule? Because it is pure and utter nonsense. Seriously. How in the wide fucking world of sports am I supposed to know how someone wants to be treated? It's called "getting to know people." The golden rule is great when you only need to deal with someone for a brief amount of time, but when it comes to forming relationships, personal and professional, it helps a lot more to actually learn what makes the person(s) you're dealing with tick. Once you do that, you can better accommodate that person's needs and wants, which should be more likely to lead to a better outcome than if you were only working from your own POV. Imagine you were going fishing and you needed to buy bait. You, applying the golden rule, may think "I like yogurt, so I'll use yogurt for bait." You then find that, for some reason, the fish don't like yogurt very much. If you'd applied the platinum rule, you'd have realized that just because like something, that doesn't necessarily mean that the fish will like it as well. You'd have thought about what the fish wanted. You'd have thought, "fish usually enjoy worms, so I'll use worms as bait." And you'd have caught those fish. This same line of reasoning can be applied to people; get to know the other person, learn what makes them tick, and then work from there. That is precisely the mind numbingly stupid diatribe that Kendo2 was saying is hilarious. Fabulously hilarious in fact. See, someone suggested that I be more tactful and civil when I interact with people on this site. However, this condescending little remark convinced me not to do that. So since I can't possibly know what you are thinking, do I just guess? You make the most reasonable decision based on the context. Oh, and you say that as if you wouldn't also be guessing if you were practicing the golden rule. Ya know, since part of it is just assuming that other people want to be treated the same as you. Again, get to know them if you're gonna be interacting with them for more than just a little while. While we're on the topic, I never said that we should just throw out the golden rule altogether, just that I think the platinum rule is better. It's not a dichotomy, and they're not mutually exclusive, it's just that one works better in certain circumstances than the other. I probably should've mentioned that before, but I didn't think I'd have to. Wow. Just Wow. Talk about massive confusion! lol yeah, cause talking to people is super confusing. I guess we can throw manners out the window and just wing it. So......let's follow this logically: How the actual fuck did you reach that conclusion? So in your mind, taking other people's preferences into account when you interact with them equates to throwing out manners as a whole. What kind of tortured logic are you employing here? Also, "logical" is not the right word to describe your following statement. do I open the door for a woman, grab her by the pussy, spit on her, say hi, ignore her, look at her hair, look at her shoes, turn my back to her, try to act natural, salute, take a selfie of my wiener..................? I genuinely hope, for the sake of your community, that you are not actually this socially inept. Not even the most nervous of nervous wrecks would have to devote this level of thought to something as basic and simple as opening a damn door. Also, "wiener," really? What are you five years old? I'm so fucking confused. Yeah, I imagine you get confused pretty easily lol. Maybe you can make one of those deals you shake and it gives you the proper response. Can't you just see everyone walking around with one of those things, furiously shaking them to see what they should do every time the encounter someone else.? That's your platinum rule right there: total chaos. Brilliant. I predict the suicide rate will climb by 30 percent as folks loose all hope of ever guessing what the proper response to other people is. ?We're going off the rails on a crazy train!? Man, it's gotta be fucking torture to be this socially awkward. "Shit I need to actually get to know people? Fuck it, I'll just kill myself." This has to be the most poorly executed attempt at a reductio ad absurdum I've ever come across. What in the fat fishes of a phenomenal fahrvergnügen fuck are you on about? Yeah, learning what other people like and treating them accordingly leads to chaos; raining cats and dogs; babies having babies with other babies. Also, "one of those deals you shake"? The hell are you talking about? And if the thought of spitting on someone or grabbing their vag ever crosses your mind if you're about to open a door, then it might be better if you don't interact with anyone after all. It has zero to do with mutual respect or understanding. It has everything to do with mutual respect and understanding. Respecting the other person enough to understand them and use that understanding to make the optimal decisions when interacting with them is an integral part of the rule. Whether you can comprehend that or not is irrelevant. Those things aren't realistically possible with total strangers now are they? Not everyone you'll have to deal with is going to be a total stranger now, are they? And again, maybe I didn't make myself clear enough the first time, so allow to clarify: I'm not discarding the golden rule, I'm saying that the platinum rule is better in certain situations. See the earlier parts of this post for examples. Of course, there is no denying some good things might actually come about with this, like facebook and twitter dying out completely. ROFL!!!! LOL SOCIAL MEDIA IS FACKING STOOPED GAIS AMIRITE?!11?!?!1111?!?1 Get a grip, grandpa. 18 hours ago, gregathit said: That is why the golden rule is about YOU. YOU treat others the way you want to be treated. See how simple that is? You are giving folks a clear roadmap that even a total stranger can follow on how you want to be treated. You're right. It is simple. It's also limited, egocentric, and not always the optimal choice. The world doesn't revolve around you, just like how it doesn't revolve around me or anyone else. Not everyone wants to be treated exactly the same way you do. Respected, sure, but even that can be interpreted differently amongst individuals. This is why taking the time to understand other people can be more beneficial than just assuming that they'll act the same way you do. 18 hours ago, gregathit said: No missed cues, no shaking some answers ball and hoping for the best. Regardless of what code you follow, you will always be hoping for the best. Look, there's no such thing as a fool proof moral system or code of conduct. To say that you'd never have any awkwardness when practicing the golden rule is entirely disingenuous. I'm sure you can think of some instance of you treating someone how you'd have wanted to be treated and they responded negatively. Maybe a blue-haired, feminist liberal who was super left-wing? ? Not to say that you'd never have an unpleasant experience practicing the platinum rule because, again, nothing is perfect. Also, good job misunderstanding the platinum rule once again. The last part of your reply is just political pontification and has nothing to do with chivalry, the golden rule, or the platinum rule, so I won't respond to it. So, let's review. You started off by painting me as an evil PC super villain, painted yourself as an immovable intellectual badass, got offended by me saying that you're not a knight, rambled about the Orwellian nightmare, took pointless jabs at leftists, spouted a bunch of non sequiturs disguised as counterarguments, and wrapped it all up with some condescending remarks while not understanding a single thing I said. Good job. ??? If you wanna respond to this, go ahead, I'm not gonna read it. If the responses I've read from you are any indication, it probably won't be worth reading anyway. We'd probably just end up arguing in circles. Good fucking lord. I'm done. As someone else mentioned, this thread has gotten pretty salty, I've gotten salty, other people have gotten salty, and that's just kinda sad isn't it? All these flavors, and we chose to be salty. That might be partially my fault, but who's keeping track, right? Sorry, OP, you (may or may not) deserve better. I think the guy with the pig for a profile picture has the right idea; I'ma just pull the fuck outta this thread. Sometimes, ya just gotta walk away. Just walk away and watch some German dungeon porn on a dubious website. Later. Maybe I'll get to see ya'll in another thread someday and we can all be bros and give each other handies. No homo. Chivalry is still super dead, btw.
steelpanther24 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 5 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said: Chivalry- in my mind- is to live by a set of virtues that you determine and no one else, rather than to live by a rigid set of ideals in accordance with a singular, dominating belief. It can be influenced by politics, religion, the teachings of your parents and family, the virtues of others such as your friends and your enemies. And virtues are the value(s) that we place upon our core beliefs of right and wrong. I would say they are our core beliefs, but that can't be true because we sometimes compromise them in different situations. The key virtue of Chivalry is honor I think. Not honor to your lord, or honor to your company, or honor on a battlefield, but honor to yourself in that you are true to yourself above all and will not compromise that for anything. "To thine own self be true. And it must follow, as the night the day. Thou canst not then be false to any man/Farewell, my blessing season this in thee!”- William Shakespeare I would also add a way to honor your past. I admire my grandfathers, what they lived through (not only the world changes as they both saw WWI, but all the death in our family, etc) made me want to emulate their behavior (strong silent men who behaved as gentlemen in all public settings, and were a strong emotional base for all those others who would not or could not handle what life threw at them). Others have commented about the causes of the death of chivalry, in depth. However, I would add that if a generation rejects most of the previous generations ideas as "old" (think "Logan's Run") then it is easy to assume that they wish to throw out everything, rather than just throw out the most egregious activity. Youtube is rife with "social experiments" that have questionable scientific basis, but one thing seems true no matter what generation is being looked at. One person going to aid another, or giving up a seat to another puts social pressure on others to follow suit (i.e. set a good example) and results in generally more people coming to aid or offering their seats up. Finally, I wish I was perfect and always acted the gentleman, but the lapses in judgements from time to time does not mean that I have betrayed my core values, it just means I am human. We should expect others to make mistakes, we just shouldn't expect them to make the same mistake over and over again. See, KoolHandLuke, I don't have you blocked......yet.
steelpanther24 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, porkybork said: Chivalry is still super dead, btw. wow, glad I did not read the salty parts. If Chivalry is dead then rose tint my world and let me believe it isn't! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yZlRqk5_6U (the link is to RHPS or Rocky Horror Picture Show for those unfamiliar, including a camo of Vladimir Putin at 4:10...or am I the only who sees the resemblance?)
gregathit Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 4 hours ago, porkybork said: Hide contents Seriously, did you hit your head before you typed this out? I genuinely hope, for the sake of your community, that you are not actually this socially inept. Not even the most nervous of nervous wrecks would have to devote this level of thought to something as basic and simple as opening a damn door. Also, "wiener," really? What are you five years old? Yeah, I imagine you get confused pretty easily lol. ?We're going off the rails on a crazy train!? Man, it's gotta be fucking torture to be this socially awkward. "Shit I need to actually get to know people? Fuck it, I'll just kill myself." This has to be the most poorly executed attempt at a reductio ad absurdum I've ever come across. What in the fat fishes of a phenomenal fahrvergnügen fuck are you on about? Yeah, learning what other people like and treating them accordingly leads to chaos; raining cats and dogs; babies having babies with other babies. Also, "one of those deals you shake"? The hell are you talking about? And if the thought of spitting on someone or grabbing their vag ever crosses your mind if you're about to open a door, then it might be better if you don't interact with anyone after all. LOL SOCIAL MEDIA IS FACKING STOOPED GAIS AMIRITE?!11?!?!1111?!?1 Get a grip, grandpa. So, let's review. You started off by painting me as an evil PC super villain, painted yourself as an immovable intellectual badass, got offended by me saying that you're not a knight, rambled about the Orwellian nightmare, took pointless jabs at leftists, spouted a bunch of non sequiturs disguised as counterarguments, and wrapped it all up with some condescending remarks while not understanding a single thing I said. Good job. ??? If you wanna respond to this, go ahead, I'm not gonna read it. If the responses I've read from you are any indication, it probably won't be worth reading anyway. We'd probably just end up arguing in circles. Spoiler ROFL! You mad bruh? You must have been pissed to have typed all that. Notice how I attacked/criticized your "idea" and you had to resort to personal insults. I plucked them out and left them in the spoiler above. I never insulted you, but you just couldn't help yourself could you? I'm not going to stoop to your level, I have no interest in crawling around in the intellectual gutter with folks like you. I will just say your ideas and your approach won't ever win you any friends. Your need to validate yourself by virtue signalling won't end up satisfying you. Been there, done that, seen the movie. No one cares. You can't force others to change, that is what the golden rule is all about. You CAN change YOU. Chivalry today doesn't have anything to do with being a hero. It is about you making yourself responsible for your actions. Holding yourself to a standard. But that is clearly something you can't do. Ah well, sad. Peace out.
Sceadugengan Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Chivalry is one of those words with ambiguous definitions. Just like justice where you ask 100 people and you get 101 different definitions. This thread was destined to end in a shitstorm.
joemonco Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 People take The Mary Sue seriously? Thats the site that was so offended at a popular white woman being raped off camera on Game of Thrones that they stopped promoting it. In fact they stopped promoting it so hard they've written close to 50 articles about it since they stopped promoting the show.
2dk2c.2 Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Not that it matters but there's a *reason* my forum name is "2dk2c", because I don't always get the innuendo, the subtext. Why don't we just create a politics forum and have done with it.
gregathit Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, 2dk2c.2 said: Why don't we just create a politics forum and have done with it. Asked and answered already.
27X Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Captain Cobra said: Sims forms were a mistake. Kind of amazing that the game based on the 'most free gameplay' and 'social paradigm based problem solving' and best of all 'conflict avoidant' engenders the most ephemeral and twinkliest of snowflakes and the most cognitively dissonant individuals without fail. Probably a direct link between patreon subs/ego strokes and severed neural connections.
Kendo 2 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Captain Cobra said: Sims forms were a mistake. Glad I'm not the only one who realized that, though Vampire the Masquerade is just as bad.
AKM Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 6:21 PM, RitualClarity said: 1. Why are people worried about what somebody is thinking of you when you do something kind, nice, or polite? 2. If you are truly doing it for good (not trying to get into someone pants or gain some advantage) those that know you will very soon learn that and start to appreciate it.. even if they don't agree with it. 1. That comes from the realization that truth doesn't matter, it's perception that matters. What you intended an act to be taken as matters not a whit. What matters is how the person that act was taken toward interprets the act. 2. Key words: 'those that know you'. My understanding of this whole deal was more of an 'out in public' spin around people you don't know. That being the case, you have no idea what their background is, therefore what their likely reaction to your action will be, and thus it is best to keep to yourself lest your actions be misinterpreted for the worse. In today's litigious society(ies), unfortunately, keeping to yourself and not helping others (as everyone is, apparently, equal, in the eyes of society and can damn well do it [whatever it is] for themselves) pretty much is the safest course of action. Getting your actions misinterpreted can very easily lead to some serious problems for you. Again, it's not about what you think, it's about what they think.
Midnight19 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Chivalry died at the battle of Agincourt... Lame joke i know. but in all seriousness, i the way i treat women vary on the woman, i open doors for little old ladies, women with small children, or women that i know, but i don't for Women i am not interested in. or obvious Bitches
Pork Type Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 The other day, I saw this woman in the supermarket. I'd never seen her before. An overly-tanned, and somewhat bawdily dressed, obviously 40-something lady. With a body, and overall affect, that might cause a 20 year old to spontaneuosly ejaculate. Perhaps even a 40 year old! And she knew it. In that moment, I actually loved Feminism
Guest Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 honestly guy's I expect better from an adult forum,this isn't Steam with a bunch of retarded 14 year olds,who don't know left from right or that politics has absolutely nothing to do with manners,unless your a Fascist prick Chivalry was actually killed off by English Long Bowmen,that's were we get the forks......aka come and get my fingers............read a fucking book,sorry OP but stupidity is one thing I can't stand,Did Hitler believe in Chivalry, did Stalin ? History should not be treated as a joke,regardless of your views it fucking happened ( 1984 quote “The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.” ....it's how we should learn and it's what men fight and die for, to preserve our freedoms way of life and points of views,some of the comments here are just plain fucking stupid and I request a mod to lock this thread
legendarytoyou Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Time's change and so do people. Me I was raised to be cordial, respectful and most importantly; chivalrous. My mother used to tell me, "opening a door for a lady is not sexist its just being courteous, the same applies to men to. I didn't raise you to be a jackass...an asshole yes but not a jackass." Now I know a lot of people will say, "she raised you to be an asshole?" and laugh. Well that gives me giggles to but there's a big difference between being an asshole and jackass; An asshole sticks up for himself/herself. He's/She's NOT a weakling, won't let people tread all over him/her. He's/She's the guy/gal that if you marry him/her will protect and defend you like a rabid pitbull. If you have children with him/her they will guard said children with their lives. A Jackass is an ignorant, brainless, cowardly little bastard that only care's about him/her self. So no chivalry isn't dead. There are still men/women out there with a good sense of moral character and common sense. It's called being raised by the right parents.
joemonco Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, legendarytoyou said: A Jackass is an ignorant, brainless, cowardly little bastard that only care's about him/her self. Nah, a jackass is just any idiot. What you describe is a narcissist. Narcissists can be jackasses but not all jackasses are narcissists. To use a previous example, the Mary Sue are narcissists because they write for the ad revenue that an article about a popular white character being raped brings in but completely ignore the black woman being gang-raped on camera on a different show and network that was less popular in social media. The readership that uses those articles to confirm their bias are jackasses.
Pork Type Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 4 hours ago, sikkboy said: honestly guy's I expect better from an adult forum,this isn't Steam with a bunch of retarded 14 year olds,who don't know left from right or that politics has absolutely nothing to do with manners,unless your a Fascist prick Chivalry was actually killed off by English Long Bowmen,that's were we get the forks......aka come and get my fingers............read a fucking book,sorry OP but stupidity is one thing I can't stand,Did Hitler believe in Chivalry, did Stalin ? History should not be treated as a joke,regardless of your views it fucking happened ( 1984 quote “The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.” ....it's how we should learn and it's what men fight and die for, to preserve our freedoms way of life and points of views,some of the comments here are just plain fucking stupid and I request a mod to lock this thread Sober up and repost this; it's interesting, but your presentation is shit. Don't feel bad. My social anxiety is so bad, I usually only post while drunk, myself
Guest Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pork Type said: Sober up and repost this; it's interesting, but your presentation is shit. well i'm off to bed,old age drunk etc,It would seem you know me too well,Porky Pork mmm Bacon on of the things I gave up in my diet,I shall entrust you to give a good fight,perhaps you could reword some of my points better,but for now it's bedtime
Pork Type Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, sikkboy said: I shall entrust you I shall entrust you to take 3 aspirin, swig a bunch of water, and keep a tall glass of it on your nightstand for the morn.
2dk2c.2 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, joemonco said: Nah, a jackass is just any idiot. What you describe is a narcissist. Narcissists can be jackasses but not all jackasses are narcissists. To use a previous example, the Mary Sue are narcissists because they write for the ad revenue that an article about a popular white character being raped brings in but completely ignore the black woman being gang-raped on camera on a different show and network that was less popular in social media. The readership that uses those articles to confirm their bias are jackasses. Are narcissists hot? I think they kind of are, totally hot, but I'm generalizing (sorry about that.) I can forgive and forget everything they are, and put my cloak in the street for them to walk upon (She touched it, bliss-squared). OT apologies in advance
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