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Smyre

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Hello! I just figured out Devious Lore and Deviously Cursed Loot are 2 different mods, and I heard of Devious Devices which I'm not sure if its another mod or something within DL or DCL. For Deviously Cursed Loot I found out it's available for Special Edition but what about this mod here? Does it properly work on SE? or I should get LE? The thing is, I don't have Skyrim at all so now that I seek these mods I'm trying to figure out which version of the game I should get to cover both mods without too many issues. Should I get LE since it has most of the mods? Or I should get the newer version SE?

Zaflis

Zaflis

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6 hours ago, Smyre said:

Hello! I just figured out Devious Lore and Deviously Cursed Loot are 2 different mods, and I heard of Devious Devices which I'm not sure if its another mod or something within DL or DCL. For Deviously Cursed Loot I found out it's available for Special Edition but what about this mod here? Does it properly work on SE? or I should get LE? The thing is, I don't have Skyrim at all so now that I seek these mods I'm trying to figure out which version of the game I should get to cover both mods without too many issues. Should I get LE since it has most of the mods? Or I should get the newer version SE?

Devious Devices (DD) has version for LE and SE and provides all the restraints that many other mods use. ZAP provides some more restraints and furnitures that some other mods use too, and that is out for both as well. DCL requires DD and is also out for both. DD and other mods also require SexLab.

 

But while i have both LE and SE i only use LE. The SE version has no animated physics for restraints and propably not going to for long time because Bethesda didn't include the physics engine or something, but this issue prevents you from using a HDT body. Most mods are for LE and more keep being developed (and over time some converted to SE). But SE is the easy and more stable way for Skyrim, and it might even look better (definitely did for me) because of included shader. And everytime i try to add ENB shaders to LE my fps drops to trash and i can never customize it in good and usable way. But vanilla LE doesn't look bad at all and there is just more mods made for it.

 

And if you want to get LE into playable/stable state with least amount of crashing, you will need to do a big amount of research and tweaking for your Skyrim. SE doesn't fully get around that either, there are mods you need to help in that.

Zaflis

Zaflis

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8 hours ago, llokii70 said:

Has there been an SE port of this?

I trust google search will 99% certainty find if it does exists, so answer seems no. It's sometimes players, not mod developers that do the conversions. It could in some cases be as simple as resaving it in SE's Creation Kit.

 

Also this list is being updated with links to all SE conversions (Devious Lore doesn't have green check next to it) :

 

worik

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upgrading question:

 

Shame on me, I've still be using the 1.03 and failed to notice that 1.07 was sitting right here to be activated.

Now: I have one open quest to go to XY and fetch Z... nothing else from DL as far as I know running right now.

 

From what I read, it would make no issue to just activate the new version in my ongoing game and be done with it. Right? ?

 

And FYI:

v1.07 has 1 UDR and 63 ITM's that appear to be automatically cleanable with TES5E

 

Code Serpent

Code Serpent

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14 hours ago, worik said:

From what I read, it would make no issue to just activate the new version in my ongoing game and be done with it. Right? ?

Yep

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MainMansrevenge

MainMansrevenge

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Hey, My old computer died so I need to reinstal this mod along with the nessecary DD mods. I remember there was a specific load order for the DD mods But I don't remember where that info is, Can anyone help?

kurotatsu

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Thank you for the fun update!

 

I think I found a bug though...

When follower unlock items, they are disappearing, not returning to PC or follower's inventory.

 

Also I'd like to consider you adding two options:

1) When asking to lock restraints "Any you like"

2) When asking to unlock "Everything you can"

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Taki17

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1 minute ago, xyzxyz said:

Why are the pony girls invisible? Another HDT problem?

Most likely. Save, reload and they should appear.

CovertDemon

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-A lot of the dialogue branches added by this mod have 'gagged' variants implemented.

Not to be a party pooper, but when your character's gagged, the regular variants of the dialogue added by the mod are still there. I only tested with the follower dialogue, however, not sure about the rest.

MstrN

MstrN

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On 11/9/2018 at 1:40 AM, Code Serpent said:

Note, that whenever an ally locks, unlocks, ties, or unties you, they will become slightly more dominant towards you. Eventually, they may refuse to unlock or untie you for up to two in-game days, depending on how dominant they are, and will persuade your other allies to wait as well.

I'm not seeing an MCM toggle.

 

I mean, followers are supposed to be PC friends or lovers, not assholes. Thing are supposed to be consensual with them.

 

I suggest making them try to persuade PC, not force them, with varying responses player can choose from.

Common to anything follower says:

 

   •"Play's over. Help me."

      •"Oh well. Tell me when you're in a mood for our next one."

 

   •"I haven't asked for them! I don't want to be in it! Help me, please!"

      •"Oh gods, that's terrible! Sorry I haven't realized that!"

 

   •"It hurts. Badly. If you don't want to drag my body to apothecary when I pass out from pain, you better help me."

      •"Oh! Sorry, I haven't realized you're in pain! I'll try to be careful!"

 

   •"I'm crazy horny. Imagine yourself opening a box full of sex!"

      •"Sounds good! But can I... Have one before I grab the keys?"

         •"...Yes. In fact, that's exactly what I want."

         •"They aren't exactly comfortable. Freedom first, fun later."

 

Now, some thought on specific quotes:

 

•"Come now. We both know you can get out of that yourself."

   •"And you are just going to stand there and watch me struggle?"

      •"...You got me. That's my favorite thing to do in those moments."

         •"Well then... Enjoy the view!"

            •"I very much will!"

         •"That hardly seems fair. How about I pack you in those - for as long as it takes me to get out - after I'm done?"

            •"That sounds... Like a deal. Now start struggling, please. Why aren't you struggling?..

                  ...For how long you're planning to wear them now? You're making me nervous..."

            •"And then lead me straight into some draugr tomb? No, thanks. Allright, I'll help you.

                  I'm sure I'll get my opportunity to see you bound later. And you to see me.

                  I know you want to. I can see it in your eyes. Or is that reflection of mine? Or both?.. Oh... "

         •"I'm not in the mood for this kind of games. Just do it, please."

            •"Allright. But do tell me when your mod changes for better."

 

•"Are you sure you're through? I think you should enjoy yourself a bit more."

   •"You think so?.. I guess you have a point."

      •"Music to my ears. Now, can you strike a pose? Walk around a bit? The way your hips sway make my head spin."

   •"I am NOT enjoying it right now. Help. Me. Please."

      •"Sorry to hear that. But duty calls, I guess."

 

•"Not yet; you're just too adorable when you struggle."

   •"I'm too tired for this kind of talk."

      •"Oh. Go get some rest, my hero, I'll keep your devices safe for your return."

   •"You know, you're adorable when you struggle too."

      •"You think so?.. Maybe we should tie me too?.."

         •"I like this idea! Do it, and let us struggle together!"

            •"On the one hand, getting us both tied may sound like a bad idea. On the other, we'll figure something out, I'm sure.

                  Now, I need you to bite and pull... Not too tight, please. Well, maybe a bit tighter... A bit more..."

         •"If you want to feel them radiating with warmth of my embrace, you'll need to take them off me first."

            •"I can almost see a trick here, but I'm too busy thinking about their sweet warmth to expose your trickery to the daylight.

                  Now, what should I begin with? Looking at you makes me feel like I'm in candy shop..."

         •"You're right! Now, first I'd have to struggle out of mine - I'd love to see how you will look in them, to watch you struggle too!"

            •"Well... What are you waiting for?"

 

I don't really know what to do with gagged responses, though. Something like this, with some meaning behind moans?

 

 • M-mph. (Slowly shakes head, with half-closed eyes pinned to your body and faint smile growing around gag.)

   • M-mrr. (Listen how your followers breath bates for a moment at your purr, smirk and move on.)

      • Ahh... (Squirms a bit and follows your motions with absent look.)

   • Grrr! (Furrow your brows.)

      • Mf-fh! (Shakes, groans and reaches for pockets.)

   • M-mh!!! (Stare in panic!)

      • Mmf! Mmmf! (Quickly digs digits into key-pouch.)

  

     

 

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tuxagent7

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i think thoses sentences would go well with Devious Helper by Turbonerd (follower is a helper like you said)

 

I like in deivous lore that the follower become more dominant and decide to toy with the pc. He is teasing and controlling her more and more.

 

The upside is that the follower becomes more able with the devices but the downside is that he likes to see the pc stays in them

 

 

 

 

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xyzxyz

xyzxyz

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The follower bound the player with the rope set and suddenly the player body is invisible. I have the newest DDi, DDx and DDa. Why are textures missing?

Zaflis

Zaflis

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1 hour ago, xyzxyz said:

The follower bound the player with the rope set and suddenly the player body is invisible. I have the newest DDi, DDx and DDa. Why are textures missing?

Ropes are part of DDx. You need to batch build them in Bodyslide and XPMSE skeleton. The mods should be loaded in order of DDA, DDI, DDX, and Devious Lore (and rest of the DD using mods) after them some point.

xyzxyz

xyzxyz

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9 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Ropes are part of DDx. You need to batch build them in Bodyslide and XPMSE skeleton. The mods should be loaded in order of DDA, DDI, DDX, and Devious Lore (and rest of the DD using mods) after them some point.

I did that and the full rope body restraint has still no textures.

MstrN

MstrN

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12 hours ago, tuxagent7 said:

I like in deivous lore that the follower become more dominant and decide to toy with the pc. He is teasing and controlling her more and more.

 

12 hours ago, llokii70 said:

And see I see that as an more exciting

 

And I think they should ask for PC consent first. Lack of this is very unnerving for me. That's why most DD mods come with big MCMs.

And in my suggestion there's always a dialogue option to stay bound, as follower asks. To keep everyone's happy.

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Zaflis

Zaflis

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35 minutes ago, Smyre said:

Does Legendary version work on windows 10, as well as this mod?

Yes, i suppose most of us are on Windows 10 by now. Mod Organizer 2 has been working well with LE and it is generally better with all the 64-bit OS stuff than MO1.

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