AAF Violate

[Tortout4]

31 minutes ago, EgoBallistic said:

I'm not sure what I can tell you beyond the instructions I wrote up in that post.  The one I linked, here: post your script log

I will post my logs tomorrow about enemies attacking me. I have alot of problems with this shitty game atm.

Here are logs where I found another bug. I stuck at the surrender animation for a long time and nothing happens. Had to close game after that.

 

EDIT: Managed to get attacked after rape scene, got send to abduction. So I posted the logs here as PapyrusAttack.

Papyrus.0.log

PapyrusAttack.log

[EgoBallistic]

43 minutes ago, Tortout4 said:

Here are logs where I found another bug. I stuck at the surrender animation for a long time and nothing happens. Had to close game after that.

 

EDIT: Managed to get attacked after rape scene, got send to abduction. So I posted the logs here as PapyrusAttack.

Both of your logs show a crazy amount of errors and corrupt Papyrus data due to mods being removed, as well as constant errors from Better Locational Damage and from some kind of artillery mod.

 

As far as the problems with Violate, AAF is throwing internal errors like this one which shouldn't even be possible:

[10/01/2020 - 10:59:53PM] AFV report: AnimationStart Event
[10/01/2020 - 10:59:53PM] error: Cannot play a None idle on an actor
stack:
    [ (FF007C05)].Actor.PlayIdle() - "<native>" Line ?
    [AAF_MainQuest (09000F99)].aaf:aaf_mainquestscript.startMultipleIdles() - "AAF_MainQuestScript.psc" Line 2284
    [AAF_MainQuest (09000F99)].aaf:aaf_mainquestscript.initAnimation() - "AAF_MainQuestScript.psc" Line 2252

This means AAF tried to play an animation but the idle form from the animation pack plugin was invalid.

 

There are just too many problems with this for me to be able to help you.

[Tortout4]

16 hours ago, EgoBallistic said:

Both of your logs show a crazy amount of errors and corrupt Papyrus data due to mods being removed, as well as constant errors from Better Locational Damage and from some kind of artillery mod.

 

As far as the problems with Violate, AAF is throwing internal errors like this one which shouldn't even be possible:

[10/01/2020 - 10:59:53PM] AFV report: AnimationStart Event
[10/01/2020 - 10:59:53PM] error: Cannot play a None idle on an actor
stack:
    [ (FF007C05)].Actor.PlayIdle() - "<native>" Line ?
    [AAF_MainQuest (09000F99)].aaf:aaf_mainquestscript.startMultipleIdles() - "AAF_MainQuestScript.psc" Line 2284
    [AAF_MainQuest (09000F99)].aaf:aaf_mainquestscript.initAnimation() - "AAF_MainQuestScript.psc" Line 2252

This means AAF tried to play an animation but the idle form from the animation pack plugin was invalid.

 

There are just too many problems with this for me to be able to help you.

Well shit. Ok need to sort things out and probably have to reinstall all animation packs

[MrCruelJohn]

28 minutes ago, Tortout4 said:

Well shit. Ok need to sort things out and probably have to reinstall all animation packs

Also don't uninstall mods mid game. You will bork you save.  New games solve many issues.

 

John

[izzyknows]

59 minutes ago, Tortout4 said:

Well shit. Ok need to sort things out and probably have to reinstall all animation packs

And my I suggest making or getting a pure vanilla save that has never left the Vault 111 door. Ms. Vault111 is a good example, as the triggers around the door haven't been tripped.

[driver nephi]

hey egoballistic with the bad end furniture mod would it be possible after the pc had been executed by an enemy would it be possible to show a scene of the dead pc being used for a raider settlement decoration depending on how they are killed? just an idea and i wonder if more forms of bad end executions can be possible (being burned alive,irradiated,eviscerated,mutilation,acid bath)i hope i'm rushing you  but i figure if it can be done it would be a good addon for aaf violate and i like to know if anyone would agree to this thank for reading egoballistic?

[Digz]

Awesome mod. Having an issue though when my character gets "violated", the enemy after the animations becomes "essential". Not sure what I'm doing wrong? Please note the enemies that become essential are not named NPC's. One of the enemies that became essential (after violated initiated animations) was one of the targeted robots when meeting Adda for the first time. 

[EgoBallistic]

3 hours ago, Digz said:

Awesome mod. Having an issue though when my character gets "violated", the enemy after the animations becomes "essential". Not sure what I'm doing wrong? Please note the enemies that become essential are not named NPC's. One of the enemies that became essential (after violated initiated animations) was one of the targeted robots when meeting Adda for the first time. 

Violate doesn't make enemies essential or put them in any essential aliases.  So this mod is not directly causing this.  My guess is that another mod reacting to AAF events made them essential.

 

For some reason though, this rings a bell.  Unfortunately I can't think of where I have seen this before at the moment.

 

 

[Sagebrush61]

5 hours ago, EgoBallistic said:

Violate doesn't make enemies essential or put them in any essential aliases.  So this mod is not directly causing this.  My guess is that another mod reacting to AAF events made them essential.

 

For some reason though, this rings a bell.  Unfortunately I can't think of where I have seen this before at the moment.

 

 

When AAF first started development it had a bug that made the player character essential.  This was before it started using the doppelganger for animations.  I don't remember what caused it but there might be a clue in the early aaf thread.  It's possible someone managed to "recreate" a similar bug unintentionally.

Edit: not just essential, PC was invulnerable to damage, as if god-mode had been applied.

[EgoBallistic]

20 minutes ago, Sagebrush61 said:

When AAF first started development it had a bug that made the player character essential.  This was before it started using the doppelganger for animations.  I don't remember what caused it but there might be a clue in the early aaf thread.  It's possible someone managed to "recreate" a similar bug unintentionally.

Edit: not just essential, PC was invulnerable to damage, as if god-mode had been applied.

I don't think AAF is causing this either.  The only actor AAF makes invulnerable is the doppelganger, and the code is very specific to that actor.

 

Incidentally, now I remember what this reminded me of.  In Violate 1.41 there was a bug where if you attempted to surrender but no valid aggressors were found, your character would get stuck with SetGhost on and would be invulnerable to everything.  But that was fixed in 1.42 and only applied to the player anyway.

[Digz]

After deselecting Madness Mod in MO2, all appears well. I'm guessing maybe Madness was possibly causing NPC's to become essential while in a AAF animation but not removing the tag. Thank you very much EgoBallistic and SageBrush61 for your responses.

[VonHelton]

15 hours ago, EgoBallistic said:

I don't think AAF is causing this either.  The only actor AAF makes invulnerable is the doppelganger, and the code is very specific to that actor.

 

Incidentally, now I remember what this reminded me of.  In Violate 1.41 there was a bug where if you attempted to surrender but no valid aggressors were found, your character would get stuck with SetGhost on and would be invulnerable to everything.  But that was fixed in 1.42 and only applied to the player anyway.

Follower mods have been my problem all along. Apparently, any follower mod that adds extra followers causes everything AAF to go tits up & refuse to work properly. This is why my people stand up during animation, and I bet it's the cause of alot of other problems as well.

 

 

TESTED SO FAR:

 

1. Unlimited Follower Framework

2. Tea Party - Multiple Follower Overhaul.

 

NOT TESTED:

 

1. Everyone's Best Friend

2. Amazing Follower Tweaks

 

 

I bet Unique Player & Follower Redux screws up stuff as well.

[EgoBallistic]

1 hour ago, VonHelton said:

Apparently, any follower mod that adds extra followers causes everything AAF to go tits up & refuse to work properly. This is why my people stand up during animation, and I bet it's the cause of alot of other problems as well.

That's simply not true.

 

I use Everyone's Best Friend and Unlimited Companion Framework with zero problems in AAF.  I also use FCOM which adds scripted NPCs who follow you around - they aren't followers in the technical sense but they are commandable, fight with you, etc.  Never had any issues.

 

Having said that, you only need to look at the Bugs tabs for AFT and Tea Party Companions to see that they should be avoided.

[VonHelton]

5 minutes ago, EgoBallistic said:

That's simply not true.

 

I use Everyone's Best Friend and Unlimited Companion Framework with zero problems in AAF.  I also use FCOM which adds scripted NPCs who follow you around - they aren't followers in the technical sense but they are commandable, fight with you, etc.  Never had any issues.

 

Having said that, you only need to look at the Bugs tabs for AFT and Tea Party Companions to see that they should be avoided.

Brand new install.......

 

AAF

Savage Cabbage

SEU

 

Before EFF, dogmeat did the animations. After EFF, he stops in mid animation & sways back & forth like he's trying to run away but can't.

 

Tea Party was the same way. I just tested AFT, and at first AFT seemed to work, but after awhile it failed too.

 

I'm trying Everyone's Best Friend next........

 

 

 

[EgoBallistic]

9 hours ago, Digz said:

After deselecting Madness Mod in MO2, all appears well. I'm guessing maybe Madness was possibly causing NPC's to become essential while in a AAF animation but not removing the tag. Thank you very much EgoBallistic and SageBrush61 for your responses.

Thanks for following up.  I just took a look and sure enough, AAF Madness uses a ref collection alias that flags actors as essential:

 

[VonHelton]

2 hours ago, EgoBallistic said:

That's simply not true.

 

I use Everyone's Best Friend and Unlimited Companion Framework with zero problems in AAF.  I also use FCOM which adds scripted NPCs who follow you around - they aren't followers in the technical sense but they are commandable, fight with you, etc.  Never had any issues.

 

Having said that, you only need to look at the Bugs tabs for AFT and Tea Party Companions to see that they should be avoided.

Ok, apparently, I had forgotten I had manually installed Autonomy 1.06 & that was the culprit, I replaced it with Random Shenanigans & thusfar no problems.

 

....We'll see how it goes.

[vaultbait]

8 hours ago, VonHelton said:

Ok, apparently, I had forgotten I had manually installed Autonomy 1.06 & that was the culprit, I replaced it with Random Shenanigans & thusfar no problems.

 

....We'll see how it goes.

If it helps, I switched from Shenanigans to Just Fuck a while back. The former is abandoned for a year or more now, but the latter is still fairly actively maintained.

[VonHelton]

3 hours ago, vaultbait said:

If it helps, I switched from Shenanigans to Just Fuck a while back. The former is abandoned for a year or more now, but the latter is still fairly actively maintained.

That's new to me. Got a link?

 

[izzyknows]

12 hours ago, VonHelton said:

That's new to me. Got a link?

 

https://www.loverslab.com/search/?q=Just Fuck &quick=1

[abroady96]

Idk if this was asked already but is there anything i can do the get female to female animations to work? when i get defeated they just stand there for a while and nothing happens is ther a fix thank you  

[StaticPhobia2]

On 10/5/2020 at 4:16 PM, abroady96 said:

Idk if this was asked already but is there anything i can do the get female to female animations to work? when i get defeated they just stand there for a while and nothing happens is ther a fix thank you  

Add the tag F_F to positions. If you have further questions, please include more info, like what animations you have, patches, races, etc.

 

[EgoBallistic]

On 10/5/2020 at 7:16 PM, abroady96 said:

Idk if this was asked already but is there anything i can do the get female to female animations to work? when i get defeated they just stand there for a while and nothing happens is ther a fix thank you  

Please look at the Troubleshooting section on the mod's front page.

[StaticPhobia2]

Oh, I remember what I came to ask. Is there anyway to increase the time for furniture search? AAF is taking longer for pretty much everything. Furniture animations only trigger ~10% of the time when set to 100%. I think it's not completing the scan before selecting the scene. If not, that's fine, I'll get rid of some AAF scripts because I think it's causing problems with xml equipment/action as well.

 

Nevermind, fixed it. Not sure how, but after deleting random stuff. Don't mind me

 

Actually, I can't figure out why it won't pick furniture. I delete NoFurn animations, and furniture works, don't delete it and it sometimes works. No other mods except those required to have a proper scene. All unedited. I'm confused, nobody else has this problem?

 

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[kukoricamorzsa]

Is the problem here?

*how can this error be fixed?

He does not work with human beings.

He works with green creatures. Sometimes you just quit there and don’t...

 

 

[EgoBallistic]

8 hours ago, StaticPhobia2 said:

Actually, I can't figure out why it won't pick furniture. I delete NoFurn animations, and furniture works, don't delete it and it sometimes works. No other mods except those required to have a proper scene. All unedited. I'm confused, nobody else has this problem?

The Global Options page in Violate's MCM has options for Enable Furniture Animations (you want this On), Furniture search radius, and Furniture Preference.  The default value for search radius is not very large, but increasing it makes AAF's scan take longer.  Preference is the % chance that a furniture animation will be used if appropriate furniture is found in the scan radius.