sse Paradise Halls Enhanced (pahe) Special Edition with the customary addons

[Martok73]

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

pah collars are considered by skyrim to be the same as necklaces so you'll want to remove any necklaces they're wearing and avoid giving them any while collared

That's weird cause 99% of the time my slaves are naked and only have the collar. So on npcs does it use a different slot than what it does if worn by the player? Asking cause I slipped it on my character just to see which slot it used and it was slot 45 on my character which is not the necklace slot. So maybe it uses a different slot when worn by npcs? I have no clue, my head hurts and I can't think right now.

 

  

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

with more informative console you can open the console then click her to get her base records of what mod made her and what mod last made changes. ya, that's the error i mentioned about combat. fix next update coming soon

yeah had a brain fart and completely forgot I had MIC installed, so after checking her in the console she's from MNC and that's the only mod/file that touches her. What is weird to me is that she uses the exact same skeleton as the male giants and they work just fine, but she's stuck in an a-pose. Ok cool I won't worry about error then and try to wait patiently for the update.

Edited January 8, 2022 by Martok73

[Pfiffy]

5 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

 

for editing the psc files, regular windows notepad opens it as a text file. only need to use the ck to compile those as pex

good to hear you have a compiler now

 

Outside of the CK I open and edit the psc files directly with notepad+. (I didn't try to compile with Notepad+ for now....) Editing is not the problem, but I don't get the CK to save the psc's to a BSA. It only takes the .pex files and I didn't find any settings to make it save the source files, too. After a bit of struggle with the installation I managed to fix most parts of the pimpingquest 4 yesterday and I will start on 5 and 6 today and maybe check out the first 3 for missing edits for the scripts there...

 

There are a few scripts where I don't know how to modify them to use all available Hookers. There I will need your help. 

 

For now I didn't sort out the fragments that may be replaced by one, This will make the mod bigger than needed, but it will not cause any harm....

 

 

 

 

[bnub345]

@Pfiffy You can try using papyrus compiler app from the nexus. It lets you compile without having to boot up the CK, and it has built in MO2 support if you use that. I find it a lot more convenient. Also I would recommend using sublime text over any notepad apps for a coding environment, personally I think it's a lot cleaner and easier to read. As a longtime user of notepad++ I wouldn't go back. 

[CliftonJD]

23 hours ago, Martok73 said:

That's weird cause 99% of the time my slaves are naked and only have the collar. So on npcs does it use a different slot than what it does if worn by the player? Asking cause I slipped it on my character just to see which slot it used and it was slot 45 on my character which is not the necklace slot. So maybe it uses a different slot when worn by npcs? I have no clue, my head hurts and I can't think right now.

pah collars are slot 35 same as necklaces, dd and zaz collars are slot 45. pah collars are what you find on the desk in farengar's study. "iron slave collar" and "Iron Slave Collar of Leashing" are pah collars. dd collars rely on the number of npc's polled. i know it needs to poll each npc wearing devices, dunno if it needs to poll additional npc's in the area to be waiting for devices or not. either way, the setting for dd is under its menus as events and effects

23 hours ago, Martok73 said:

What is weird to me is that she uses the exact same skeleton as the male giants and they work just fine, but she's stuck in an a-pose.

well that could be the problem with her, but i'm not current on mnc so you might want to see if there's a fix for it at mnc

18 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

Editing is not the problem, but I don't get the CK to save the psc's to a BSA. It only takes the .pex files and I didn't find any settings to make it save the source files, too.

hmm, i don't recall needing to adjust any settings for that. i usually just drag and drop the files over from windows to the archive packer window in the ck....but then again i'm also working from the data folder, almost forgot you're working from a vortex

18 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

There are a few scripts where I don't know how to modify them to use all available Hookers. There I will need your help.

some of that i noticed from the properties won't be set from the scripts, but from the script properties-some of those i could tell are gonna be a pita too

18 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

For now I didn't sort out the fragments that may be replaced by one, This will make the mod bigger than needed, but it will not cause any harm....

ya, its understandable. think the best move forward would be to get the stuff we happen to notice and ignore the rest, is way too many scripts to spend your time sorting thru

 

 

[CliftonJD]

On 1/4/2022 at 12:52 PM, Nonseen said:

if the head slot oweritten and not added any armor part with texture the head go invisible.

 

if hair slot chosen a armor pice the hair "removed"/made invisible.

and yet there's still a whole other slot used for decapitate, 50 for head and 51 for neck or head and neck

On 1/4/2022 at 12:52 PM, Nonseen said:

i made this new version independent from SOS and SOS addon:

PAHENoNakedFix-V2-NO-SOS.esp

after looking it over i found the unused armor addons and created a nude armor which should apply the sos texture if you have the textures installed (without requiring sos for users who don't have it), then made an sos addon incase that version still doesn't work with sos. added the sos revealing keyword to your invisible armor. no idea if your current version already works with sos as is cuz i don't use it myself so if it doesn't work right, try these:

PAHEFixNoNaked.esl

PAHENakedFixSOS.esl

oh and i found that some slaves still rewear their old outfit so i made a devious version as well:

Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp

for some reason the devious version doesn't seem to work for me so hope you have better luck with it...could even be cuz i made it overwrite the other pieces after already in game but didn't investigate this yet

Edited January 9, 2022 by CliftonJD

[Martok73]

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

pah collars are slot 35 same as necklaces, dd and zaz collars are slot 45. pah collars are what you find on the desk in farengar's study. "iron slave collar" and "Iron Slave Collar of Leashing" are pah collars. dd collars rely on the number of npc's polled. i know it needs to poll each npc wearing devices, dunno if it needs to poll additional npc's in the area to be waiting for devices or not. either way, the setting for dd is under its menus as events and effects

Ok, so all of my slaves are either wearing the "iron slave collar" or the "leashing" collar depending on their sub lvl. Fresh slaves wear leash collars, while fully sub slaves wear normal ones. I have currently 41 slaves registered in HSH between the house cells, and the inn waiting for auction, and one giant slave, yes giant, in PAHE. I went thru all of the mods that can strip items and made sure that slots 35 and 45 were not being stripped. I don't know what you mean by "rely on #of npc's polled", I can see those settings in DD but honestly have no clue what they mean or what they are for, I leave them at whatever their default is.

 

2 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

well that could be the problem with her, but i'm not current on mnc so you might want to see if there's a fix for it at mnc

I have no clue, it's weird cause that's the 1st female giant I've seen in my game so far, and she's froze, so no clue. I've asked in both the MNC thread and the CF thread and so far no luck for a fix .

 

  

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

and yet there's still a whole other slot used for decapitate, 50 for head and 51 for neck or head and neck

Don't forget slot 41 the long hair slot which is used by DD as the default device hider compatibility slot, which can also cause an invisible head if covered up, lol.

Edited January 9, 2022 by Martok73

[Will55]

Placed on the AYGAS page as well.

How many slave hookers can I have once I have the Pimp perk? 1,3, 5.....?

Do these hookers count as TDF Hookers (Old or new versions)?

WRT the last question IMHO they should not as I totally distinguish

between forced prostitution and willing prostitution but....

 

Edited January 11, 2022 by Will55

[pinky6225]

On 1/9/2022 at 6:41 AM, Martok73 said:

I don't know what you mean by "rely on #of npc's polled", I can see those settings in DD but honestly have no clue what they mean or what they are for, I leave them at whatever their default is.

 

The DD setting controls how many NPC's it checks (polls) and then the frequency it checks them so you can try and manage how much of an impact it has to papyrus, the default as i recall is 15 so if you have 16 NPC's in a cell all wearing DD stuff then 1 of them won't get checked so wouldnt do DD animations/have there arousal increased etc

[narbzhikaru]

On 1/5/2022 at 1:41 AM, Martok73 said:

Ok, so that does help some with the diagnostics, try this out and see what happens.... While Pardo is standing at the podeum with his paper and quil and a slave is standing on the platform, talk to Pardo and tell him that you don't have time to wait and have to leave. He should then say ok and to come back later to collect your share of the proceeds. Once that dialog is finished and the menu closes, leave the inn, fast travel back to Whiterun or any other town far away where you have a bed you can sleep in. Go to bed and sleep for 24hrs, then wait another 2hrs. Go back to the Restless Hunter Inn and Pardo should be back behind the bar in the main room, talk to him and choose the dialog option to collect your share of the profits from the auction. If he says ok here is your share of the gold/profit whatever, then a few seconds later you get the little message in the upper left corner of your screen saying exactly how much gold you receive, then it worked and the auction was successful. If that happens, that tells me that you have script overload form another mod and are giving your papyrus a heartattack causing the actual auction event to not complete while you are there to witness it. Try that and let me know what happens and we'll go from there.

 

 

Edit: Honestly it shouldn't matter whether you skip the quest or did the quest as long as you can talk to Pardo and have him hold a slave auction at midnight it should work. As for the "have to leave" showing up twice, I haven't had that as it only shows up once for me, but from past experience with duplicate dialog options normally they both do the same thing, so I'd try one and if that don't work try the other one. Hope that helps, and good luck .

Alright so I tried that as well sorry it took me so long... been busy... nothing shows up when I return to him I don't get any gold and theres no talk about a new auction or anything.  It still says wait for the auction to be complete but all the slaves I sold to him are gone and they are all acting like its business as usual.

One thing I noticed is that when I opened the console it says some  NPC's spells are missing it says like guard spell missing- all ok or something like that... but for a few differenct characters, don't know if that is important information or not...

Edited January 11, 2022 by narbzhikaru

[terrorofmorrowind]

I just found out that the game "forgets" pregancies on safe load when I actually fuck them. I have baka's fill her up and I also tried both soulgem oven 4 and fertility mode. both are 2 completely different pregancy mods, yet they have both the same issue. Has anyone had this issue before? It worked perfectly fine on LE. In SE there seem to be issues. I didn't mention this before because I thought it was an incompatibility with soulgem but it seems like it's a much deeper issue.

Edited January 11, 2022 by terrorofmorrowind

[CliftonJD]

On 1/9/2022 at 12:41 AM, Martok73 said:

Ok, so all of my slaves are either wearing the "iron slave collar" or the "leashing" collar depending on their sub lvl. Fresh slaves wear leash collars, while fully sub slaves wear normal ones.

ok, if you've given them those collars, i see no reason why the collars would hide. could be that some armors cover them the same way that some armor cover necklaces. the fact it still works shows its just hidden

On 1/9/2022 at 12:41 AM, Martok73 said:

and one giant slave, yes giant, in PAHE.

dunno how you managed that, but we don't normally have that option cuz unless its changed in se, having those slaves in your save can make your save unstable

On 1/9/2022 at 12:41 AM, Martok73 said:

I've asked in both the MNC thread and the CF thread and so far no luck for a fix .

try experimenting with which skeleton best works, i think cf or mnc have a special skeleton for giants. if that doesn't fix it, try disabling giants members from the cf schlongs in the mcm (assuming it still has the option)--you might have to save quit for it to take effect still if this is the cause for it

no idea if the above enslaved giant is causing the issue

On 1/9/2022 at 4:34 AM, Will55 said:

Placed on the AYGAS page as well.

How many slave hookers can I have once I have the Pimp perk? 1,3, 5.....?

Do these hookers count as TDF Hookers (Old or new versions)?

WRT the last question IMHO they should not as I totally distinguish

between forced prostitution and willing prostitution but....

dunno either, but far as i can tell, its independent of tdf with its own prostitution framework built-in

17 hours ago, narbzhikaru said:

Alright so I tried that as well sorry it took me so long... been busy... nothing shows up when I return to him I don't get any gold and theres no talk about a new auction or anything.  It still says wait for the auction to be complete but all the slaves I sold to him are gone and they are all acting like its business as usual.

from what i can tell there's an odd bug in the auction script that once you tell pardo we should have an auction and he agrees to it, leaving the cell tends to erase either all slaves or all slaves with the auction medallion. i think its been mentioned in the hsh thread, but i don't recall musje's response to it and the other user reporting it got nothing for the auction either

11 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

I just found out that the game "forgets" pregancies on safe load when I actually fuck them. I have baka's fill her up and I also tried both soulgem oven 4 and fertility mode. both are 2 completely different pregancy mods, yet they have both the same issue. Has anyone had this issue before? It worked perfectly fine on LE. In SE there seem to be issues. I didn't mention this before because I thought it was an incompatibility with soulgem but it seems like it's a much deeper issue.

think somebody else already mentioned earlier they were able to use a private port of sgo2 without any problems

[Pfiffy]

On 1/9/2022 at 5:09 AM, CliftonJD said:

 

hmm, i don't recall needing to adjust any settings for that. i usually just drag and drop the files over from windows to the archive packer window in the ck....but then again i'm also working from the data folder, almost forgot you're working from a vortex

some of that i noticed from the properties won't be set from the scripts, but from the script properties-some of those i could tell are gonna be a pita too

ya, its understandable. think the best move forward would be to get the stuff we happen to notice and ignore the rest, is way too many scripts to spend your time sorting thru

 

 

Way too many scripts....I think, I have the pimping quests done for the most parts.... 

 

 

Edit: This is the 3rd time I tried to post here... 

 

The new version looks better in the CK with every little edit, but I don't have much time to work on it right now. I have problems with the 3-way-options. I don't know how to add the additional Hookers to the script. I have added the needed properties to the scripts, wherever I stumbled over them. the pimping quests are nearly done and most of the other stuff looks already good in the CK. I'm working on renaming all scripts from TIF__xxxx to AIBB_TIF_xxxxx now. 

 

 

Edited January 12, 2022 by Pfiffy

[Will55]

 1/9/2022 at 9:34 PM, Will55 said:

How many slave hookers can I have once I have the Pimp perk? 1,3, 5.....?

Do these hookers count as TDF Hookers (Old or new versions)?

WRT the last question IMHO they should not as I totally distinguish

between forced prostitution and willing prostitution but....

CliftonJD replied:

 dunno either, but far as i can tell, its independent of tdf with its own prostitution framework built-in

 

 

Thank you for the reply. but, it really was a question for Pfiffy as if anyone should know, it should be him that does.

I find that it could be an excellent way of adding  and using slave hookers keeping the TDF etc. ones for non slaves.

However the line between AYGAS slave hookers and TDF slave hookers is very blurred and I am now aboutv to try and see how many I can put into action.

The problem is that they can work AYGAS freelance once they hit 15 clients but how do they get there ? Via Aygas or TDF? Does it matter which? (IMO yes!)

Edited January 12, 2022 by Will55

[Killeer]

Hello, I am still on 8.0.2 just asking if the problem I found can be fix by updating to newer version or the problem is from somewhere else

 

I have Jarl Elisif as slave. She supposed to be super weak but I left her in HSH to train and she is now one shot everything. Even Ebony Warrior with 100,000 Health while other follower with same exact equipment won't make a dent

 

I checked via More Informative Console and found that all parameter seems fine except for her AttackDamageMult is 176476. Where is this come from or might comes from and is there a fix?

 

Thank you

 

Jarl Elisif the Fair + Thalmor Slaver = Elisif the Savage

Spoiler

 

Edited January 12, 2022 by Killeer

[Gukahn]

2 hours ago, Killeer said:

Elisif the Savage

Might be her native perks giving her the edge. Elisif is a Citizen class but has 3 Fighting Perks working for her. One of them is armor light, the others one- and twohanded.  Give her enough training, she levels with you as a slave i guess and she can be a fucking powerhouse.

The Ebony warrior doesn't even use all his perks, i think out of them he only uses 3 in a fight so it's pretty balanced ?

[pinky6225]

4 hours ago, Will55 said:

However the line between AYGAS slave hookers and TDF slave hookers is very blurred and I am now aboutv to try and see how many I can put into action.

The problem is that they can work AYGAS freelance once they hit 15 clients but how do they get there ? Via Aygas or TDF? Does it matter which? (IMO yes!)

 

AYGAS its perk/slave training related far as i know whether you can leave them to work (dialogue along the lines of you'll make a good slave for my brothel) in a player home

 

I have 15 AYGAS whores in total spread across 3 area's considered homes (5 in each) without problem

 

The TDF one where they can find customers automatically/work in a town is totally unrelated to AYGAS far as i know (unless something has recently changed with it)

[narbzhikaru]

I ended up using LOOT and it destroyed my game save...  I think it is possible my load order was really crappy I will try again with a fresh game and let you know how it goes... as you mentioned theres a bug where you can't get the auction money but my problem is that the auctions don't even initiate at all... so is there a root problem to this or just a bug in the after effect?  either way I appreciate all the help you guys have been giving me and I will let you know what happens once I can make my way over to that part of the map,

[Martok73]

On 1/11/2022 at 6:49 AM, pinky6225 said:

 

The DD setting controls how many NPC's it checks (polls) and then the frequency it checks them so you can try and manage how much of an impact it has to papyrus, the default as i recall is 15 so if you have 16 NPC's in a cell all wearing DD stuff then 1 of them won't get checked so wouldnt do DD animations/have there arousal increased etc

Ok, well that makes sense, but since all my slaves are naked wearing only the collars from PAHE that setting should not matter then.

 

On 1/11/2022 at 7:58 AM, narbzhikaru said:

Alright so I tried that as well sorry it took me so long... been busy... nothing shows up when I return to him I don't get any gold and theres no talk about a new auction or anything.  It still says wait for the auction to be complete but all the slaves I sold to him are gone and they are all acting like its business as usual.

One thing I noticed is that when I opened the console it says some  NPC's spells are missing it says like guard spell missing- all ok or something like that... but for a few differenct characters, don't know if that is important information or not...

Yeah, since you tried that and the auction actually never completed which is shown by there not being any dialog for you to collect your share of the gold but all the npcs are back to where they were, then that says alot. It tells me that the script never fired properly and the auction complete script that controls the amount of gold you make never fired. That tells me one of two things, either A. There is another mod causing massive script lag that is preventing the HSH auction scripts from firing correctly. or B. That HSH install somehow corrupted and the scripts are not functioning correctly. In the case that B is the answer I would suggest to re-install HSH and see if that fixes the issue with the auction script not firing.

 

3 hours ago, narbzhikaru said:

I ended up using LOOT and it destroyed my game save...  I think it is possible my load order was really crappy I will try again with a fresh game and let you know how it goes... as you mentioned theres a bug where you can't get the auction money but my problem is that the auctions don't even initiate at all... so is there a root problem to this or just a bug in the after effect?  either way I appreciate all the help you guys have been giving me and I will let you know what happens once I can make my way over to that part of the map,

LOOT is a good place to start with sorting a load order but it should be taken with a grain of salt and manual adjustments should be made in order to place plugins in the right spot so as to not have conflicts. I always backup my current plugin list before ever sorting via LOOT or via the Vortex "sort" button. Can't remember which mod manager you said you use to be honest. However LOOT should not have screwed up your save as all your mods are still there just in a different load order now. If you did not backup your plugin list what I would suggest is try to put your mods back in the order you had them prior to sorting via LOOT and keep doing that until you get the game to load without crashing, then try to load up your save file and see what happens.

 

13 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

ok, if you've given them those collars, i see no reason why the collars would hide. could be that some armors cover them the same way that some armor cover necklaces. the fact it still works shows its just hidden

All but one of my slaves are naked with only the PAHE collar in their inventories so there should not be anything "hiding" the collars. If I use the dialog option to look in their inventory it shows that the collar is unequipped (no checkmark thingy), then I have to use the "Put your clothes back on" dialog option to get them to re-equip it, which I honestly never thought that they could unequip it to begin with. It may be something in HSH causing them the unequip the collars I honestly don't know, I just noticed that a few of them would not be wearing it while the rest were, so not many, just a few, maybe something with HSH honestly have no clue at this point.

 

13 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

dunno how you managed that, but we don't normally have that option cuz unless its changed in se, having those slaves in your save can make your save unstable

I assume it was because the giant was in a bleedout state and when I clicked on giant it had the "Enslave Health" option available. So for shits n giggles I tried it and it worked. So far I haven't noticed any issues with the save file, and checking it in resaver shows no errors. I've had a couple crashes since getting the giant but after looking at the logs they were crashes caused by the same thing that has been plaguing me for months now long before getting the giant so I know he's not the reason. So far he's working out pretty well, he's at 100 sub/respect and at 51 combat, which is funny as hell cause he's OP AF at only 51 combat. I've got him guarding Lakeview Manor outside where the occasional hostile spawns in to harass my livestock and it's so funny when I fast travel and see him launching bandits to the moon. He's still under PAHE control just have him in sandbox mod, which he actually walks around a little bit which is more than the human slaves do when I tell them to sandbox, lol.

 

13 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

try experimenting with which skeleton best works, i think cf or mnc have a special skeleton for giants. if that doesn't fix it, try disabling giants members from the cf schlongs in the mcm (assuming it still has the option)--you might have to save quit for it to take effect still if this is the cause for it

no idea if the above enslaved giant is causing the issue

I'll give that a try and see what happens. I wouldn't think that my "pet" giant is the cause tho as she was stuck in the A-Pose before I ever enslaved her mate/boyfriend/brother/cousin/whatever. She's currently all alone at that giant camp ever standing in an A-Pose whilst the mammoths are dead, and the male giant is my guard at Lakeview Manor. Ironically she is the only female I've found so far in my game as I've went around to all the giant camps I have discovered/unlocked and haven't seen any other females. So one female out of about 20 camps I think currently that have all been cleared multiple times. Strange that she's the only one so far TBH.

[Will55]

15 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

 

AYGAS its perk/slave training related far as i know whether you can leave them to work (dialogue along the lines of you'll make a good slave for my brothel) in a player home

 

I have 15 AYGAS whores in total spread across 3 area's considered homes (5 in each) without problem

 

The TDF one where they can find customers automatically/work in a town is totally unrelated to AYGAS far as i know (unless something has recently changed with it)

Thank you for that.

 

In the MCM it says that "slaves must have turned 15 tricks". I took this to mean that all AYGAS slaves each had to turn 15 tricks.

But you are telling me that it is 15 tricks in total by all slaves as a group and once this has happened, I can wholesale any number of AYGAS hookers onto the streets/inns/wild. Is this correct?
In addition, what is the desired skill set for such a new hooker starting out"

I can understand submission (Min for me =100), sexual experience (>50 I would expect) and in theory, pose ( I have no idea of the value of this ). What about respect and anger?

Could a hooker with 100 sub/pose and sex 10 begin her career?

Edited January 13, 2022 by Will55

[pinky6225]

1 hour ago, Will55 said:

Thank you for that.

 

In the MCM it says that "slaves must have turned 15 tricks". I took this to mean that all AYGAS slaves each had to turn 15 tricks.

But you are telling me that it is 15 tricks in total by all slaves as a group and once this has happened* (almost 2/12 ago in my current game) I can wholesale any number of AYGAS hookers onto the streets/inns/wild. Is this correct?
In addition, what is the desired skill set for such a new hooker starting out"

I can understand submission (Min for me =100), sexual experience (>50 I would expect) and in theory, pose ( I have no idea of the value of this ). What about respect and anger?

Could a hooker with 100 sub/pose and sex 10 begin her career?

 

Yeah once you have the perk it applies to all, from the AYGAS page

 

You can also have your (PAH) slave turn tricks once you gain the Handler perk

 

With the Pimp perk, you can leave your slaves unattended in inns, in the streets of cities where slavery is common, and have them turn tricks by themselves

 

When you gain the Madame perk, you can turn your HSH home or player home into a brothel

Its only the last two that take them out of the PAH slave list and move into AYGAS so they no longer count (until you move them back)

 

It does mention a min sub/sex required but tbh i usually train mine to 100 so i don't know whats required, I'd imagine its like TDF there and they will refuse if there stats are to low

 

 

[Killeer]

13 hours ago, Gukahn said:

Might be her native perks giving her the edge. Elisif is a Citizen class but has 3 Fighting Perks working for her. One of them is armor light, the others one- and twohanded.  Give her enough training, she levels with you as a slave i guess and she can be a fucking powerhouse.

The Ebony warrior doesn't even use all his perks, i think out of them he only uses 3 in a fight so it's pretty balanced ?

 

It could have an impact a bit but I manually use console to check her parameter and the damage somehow got multiply by 200,000

Perk will help her double or quadruple her damage, but probably not 200,000X damage Also, she remained at level 10  (check in console).

 

Now she will return to her throne and replace interim Jarl Elenwen as puppet High Queen. 

[narbzhikaru]

I don't know exactly why but LOOT seemed to mess up my save because it just crashes when I load the old save I did make a restore point so I will try that out but as it stands Pardo wont talk to me unless I enslave him and release him and even then he wont sell me anything and when I go to sell the criminals in the first couple of missions it will only let me sell 2 of them at Dawnstar and even after I sell them the dialogue with the slaves is as if they are a normal npc now I don't know how much of that is normal or if I should revert to another save and try again.

[Will55]

9 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

 

Yeah once you have the perk it applies to all, from the AYGAS page

 

Thank you for the reply. Apologies for more questions below.

 

Yes, I did read it all and have had the perk for a while now, but the MCM page makes it to seem to mean the individual slave.

This was what cause the confusion.

 

9 hours ago, pinky6225 said:

It's only the last two that take them out of the PAH slave list and move into AYGAS so they no longer count (until you move them back)

 

It does mention a min sub/sex required but tbh i usually train mine to 100 so i don't know whats required, I'd imagine its like TDF there and they will refuse if there stats are to low

 

But exactly how do you transfer a slave from PAH to/from AYGAS or TDF to/from AYGAS?

That has been the essence of my confusion here for quite some time.

 

It takes absolutely ages to sex train a PAH slave from 95 to 100 ( I have a about 12 on 100 and about 5 on 95-100) and IMO it is simply not worth the effort required (diminishing returns exemplified) and selling a 100 sex slave is almost a crime in my book as no amount of money will replace their potential working income.

 

The AYGAS page says: Slaves may be sold or set to work as prostitutes, depending on which perks you have earned. Slaves need to have sufficient Submission, respect and sex training.

 

What level of respect is essential for AYGAS hookers? IMHO respect seems self-evident but is there a defined minimum level?

I ask as I dumped 10 slaves at Fellglow and none had any respect >20 and all paid well with one at 8.5k and 7 were well behaved and polite.

 

AYGAS page also says: With the Pimp perk, you can leave your slaves unattended in inns, in the streets of cities where slavery is common, and have them turn tricks by themselves.  Tell them to "stay here and turn tricks". 

 

Just how many slaves can be working like this across Skyrim?

 

I intend to use such to work in or near places such as mod inns and other well-travelled places that TDF cannot be expected to cover but have not yet worked out the exact number required until I understand the mechanism better.

 

My apologies to all for posting here but the AYGAS page is almost dead WRT info requests.

Edited January 13, 2022 by Will55

[Will55]

18 hours ago, Killeer said:

Hello, I am still on 8.0.2 just asking if the problem I found can be fix by updating to newer version or the problem is from somewhere else

 

I have Jarl Elisif as slave. She supposed to be super weak but I left her in HSH to train and she is now one shot everything. Even Ebony Warrior with 100,000 Health while other follower with same exact equipment won't make a dent

 

 

OOC do you have the Amorous Adventures mod installed?

I ask, as that will complicate Elisif even more as there are (IIRC) 5 quests that involve her, and one involves a fighting double (I think as I have yet to do it).

In addition, where did you find that green outfits or is that a poison spell effect?

[Killeer]

2 hours ago, Will55 said:

OOC do you have the Amorous Adventures mod installed?

I ask, as that will complicate Elisif even more as there are (IIRC) 5 quests that involve her, and one involves a fighting double (I think as I have yet to do it).

In addition, where did you find that green outfits or is that a poison spell effect?

Hello, I don’t have Amorous Adventures installed. 

 

The armor is ESO Altmer Armor.
 

…But the green aura things… hmm…

 

I have that question with myself before but forgot to actually looking for the answer ?. 
 

Well, I will check this out for real this time.

Edited January 13, 2022 by Killeer