Sexlab Survival

[Monoman1]

Or this. Per level.

[chuBBies1]

Hmm, never thought I'd be 'that guy' but here I am... mod broke my game, you suck.

 

In all seriousness, I'm really enjoying this mod and all of it's tie in's to other mods on LL and nexus. However, I do have one issue regarding the TAWBA. The armor and leveled lists work just fine( i.e. bodyslide and the use of SLS to implement them into the world), and the game recognizes the bikini armor thus getting rid of the curse. My trouble however is that I am unable to properly wear both top and bottom at the same time. I'm quite certain I overlooked at least some crucial details but I'm not too sure on what they may be. Any help would be appreciated. 

 

[Monoman1]

2 minutes ago, chuBBies1 said:

My trouble however is that I am unable to properly wear both top and bottom at the same time. I'm quite certain I overlooked at least some crucial details but I'm not too sure on what they may be. Any help would be appreciated. 

Sounds like you are not using one of the customized TAWoBA on this page?

In that case it is normal for SoS to interfere with vanilla TAWoBA. Something to do with the schlong (or pubic hair probably in this case) using slot 52. 

[chuBBies1]

You may be right, I'm gonna do a little more troubleshooting to see if this is the case.

 

Edit: In regards to slot 52, I can wear either a top or bottom so I don't believe SoS is causing a incident. It's when I use both items together that creates the problem. To be more specific, it makes the items invisible but they're still being worn. If at the very least, this issue may be due to my installation since I switched back to MO2 and trying to learn the ropes again.

[Monoman1]

13 minutes ago, chuBBies1 said:

Edit: In regards to slot 52, I can wear either a top or bottom so I don't believe SoS is causing a incident. It's when I use both items together that creates the problem. To be more specific, it makes the items invisible but they're still being worn. If at the very least, this issue may be due to my installation since I switched back to MO2 and trying to learn the ropes again.

To confirm I'd go into the SoS mcm and set the player schlong to none. 

[Monoman1]

Better? 

 

[chuBBies1]

10 minutes ago, Monoman1 said:

To confirm I'd go into the SoS mcm and set the player schlong to none. 

So I just went ahead and checked and it said player schlong as none. Even stranger is that I spawned in both a chastity bra and belt to see if there was any conflicts. There were none, even when I was also wearing ab armor. The reason I did is because originally the ab part of the armor would conflict with the chastity bra, but there was no conflict. So I'm not to sure what exactly is happening

[mercplatypus]

44 minutes ago, chuBBies1 said:

So I just went ahead and checked and it said player schlong as none. Even stranger is that I spawned in both a chastity bra and belt to see if there was any conflicts. There were none, even when I was also wearing ab armor. The reason I did is because originally the ab part of the armor would conflict with the chastity bra, but there was no conflict. So I'm not to sure what exactly is happening

The issue sounds like the devious devices item hider.  It keeps devices that would be out of site hidden while wearing anything in your main body slot.  If using the base bikini files the top takes the main body slot causing the device hider to hide the bottom.  Using the modified bodyslide files will change the tops in tawoba to use the same slot as chastity bras but you will still have that problem if using half naked cover.

[chuBBies1]

22 minutes ago, mercplatypus said:

The issue sounds like the devious devices item hider.  It keeps devices that would be out of site hidden while wearing anything in your main body slot.  If using the base bikini files the top takes the main body slot causing the device hider to hide the bottom.  Using the modified bodyslide files will change the tops in tawoba to use the same slot as chastity bras but you will still have that problem if using half naked cover.

Well shit, there was my problem. Going into Survival MCM and turning off half naked cover, well fixed it. Now what exactly is the DD item hider? I've noticed similar things occurring and never knew of anything like an item hider. Is there a way to turn it off, or should I not even mess with it?

[tamai]

2 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

How are you not getting caught lockpicking? ?

Well I play a vampire character, its one of the ways i am able to get stronger and deal with the disparity ^^ so I use deflect light and shadow to turn invisible

[tamai]

1 hour ago, chuBBies1 said:

Well shit, there was my problem. Going into Survival MCM and turning off half naked cover, well fixed it. Now what exactly is the DD item hider? I've noticed similar things occurring and never knew of anything like an item hider. Is there a way to turn it off, or should I not even mess with it?

Basically DD hider does is it hides your armor to a hidden slot(41?) while still being equipped and just hides it. So say you wear an armor that's 32(body) slot then in the mcm if you set in the device hider to hide  49(panty) and 56(bra) under the 32 slot then they wont be visible upon equipping

Spoiler

so this is the device hider see 32 everything in these slots is being hidden once 32 is equipped.

 

What survivals mechanic does basically is if you're wearing 49(panty) and 56(bra) slot its considered as full armor and you won't be considered naked anymore but at the same time not allowing you to wear armor that has the slot 32(body).

 

If you don't know what slots your armors are on you can use this mod SkyUI AIO it basically does is it makes the slots numbers visibile in the skyui menu(click armor tab to see them) and what monoman was suggesting is if you didn't get the updated versions of TAWOBA here(unp) and here(cbbe) then the slots numbers are going to be all over the place.

 

these are the original intended slots by bethesda, meaning what armor is supposed to occupy which bodyslot http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Skyrim_bodyparts_number so the updated versions try to match that heres a chart; also you mentioned it works for chastity bra and chastity belt that's because they're in the correct slots you can see the slot usage wiki for DD.

 

Spoiler

the top is what the slots where and the bottom is what they were all changed too, what would happen with the way it was in the old version is the bra would be on 32(body) that means that it was impossible to wear regular armor and a bra at the same time, to it was changed to 56 to counteract that.

 

Lastly I'll say i believe SOS pubic hair coves the 52 slot but it should hide the pubic hair if anything is put in this slot maybe i can't be sure or if that's not what it does you can check under DD hider look under 52 and see what slots are being hidden when its equipped.

 

EDIT: lastly lastly lol is if you dont know how slots work two things need to happen to fix/change a slot for a piece of armor, one open up the ESP file and change the slot to your preferred slot, secondly you have to edit the armor.nif file as well to reflect those changes. This means if you download teh updated versions you have to download install the mod and run bodyslide is a must! unless you want to change them manually which i dont recommend lol

[Hex Bolt]

14 minutes ago, tamai said:

56(panty) and 49(bra) slot

I think you meant 49 (panty) and 56 (bra), right?

[tamai]

6 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

I think you meant 49 (panty) and 56 (bra), right?

haha right thanks for catching that xD

[chuBBies1]

Thanks @tamai for clearing that up. I'm pretty sure I goofed up somewhere along the installation of that patch. I think it's best if I do a fresh install of TAWAB and a clean save and see how I fair.

[tamai]

12 minutes ago, chuBBies1 said:

Thanks @tamai for clearing that up. I'm pretty sure I goofed up somewhere along the installation of that patch. I think it's best if I do a fresh install of TAWAB and a clean save and see how I fair.

your welcome and a clean save is always a good idea

[dult]

Am on a slightly old version of the newest beta(I think it's v0.607, but I'd deleted the zip it was stored in, so not 100% sure. Was pretty soon after you added property license), and my house has people in it IRL, so won't be able to check the newest version until either late tonight or tomorrow morning, but I may have found a couple of bugs with property license.

First, a new character can't buy breezehome due to Proventus telling them about needing a property license, even if you own said license.

 

Second, even turning off property licenses doesn't stop the no-license issues happening. AKA, can't buy breezehome, and will be booted out if you don't have a license even if that license isn't supposed to be a thing.

Will try to hop on and try out the newest version of the beta tonight to see if these are fixed, but I didn't see anything about these bugs in the patch notes, so thought I'd go ahead and mention it while I'm here in case anyone else can confirm.

[mercplatypus]

4 hours ago, chuBBies1 said:

Well shit, there was my problem. Going into Survival MCM and turning off half naked cover, well fixed it. Now what exactly is the DD item hider? I've noticed similar things occurring and never knew of anything like an item hider. Is there a way to turn it off, or should I not even mess with it?

You can modify the settings in the Devious Devices MCM menu.  The sub tab is devices underneath.

[ttpt]

Mmm, I got a bug where with the beta versions where I can't toggle any of the setting for the built-in STA functionality. I can toggle it on and off but all the other option remain greyed out, I'm not running the main STA on this save and it's pretty much a brand new game with this SLS version from =the start.

[chuBBies1]

Just wanna say thanks to @tamai, @mercplatypus, and @Monoman1 for helping me. My setup and load order seem to be running quite smooth with no apparent bugs( at least not yet  ). I may not need any tech assistance right now, but I do have some questions. This is a very extensive mod that incorporates a plethora of other mods to very interesting effects. One in particular is Sexual fame. I remember using this mod in the past, but how does this mod utilize this system. 

[mercplatypus]

I've run into a few situations where it seems to have an impact.  Most notably was when a character that hadn't done a lot of whoring had called out the quartermaster on trying to extort more money for licensing he seemed worried about getting caught.  After whoring he had dialogue along the lines of no one believing a common whore.  There may be a few other areas as well.

[dult]

You can probably ignore that earlier post I did, checked the most recent version and I think the problems are fixed. Definitely the one with property licenses kicking in when resting in breezehome even if they're disabled. Not sure about buying yet though, so I'll test that out at some point.

On the other hand, i can confirm there's still a bug where hide bikini armor won't show on the leveled lists, no matter how high you put the score at. That one's been around for a while though, just hadn't really thought about it until now.

[Monoman1]

13 hours ago, saltshade said:

In the beginning of my current game I had the begging for clothes option, but now it's gone. I don't know when it happened but it seems to have been replaced by begging for lactacid, which I don't care about at all. Can that happen if you become milk maid and is there a way to get back the begging for clothes dialogue? I wouldn't mind replacing any of the options if you can't have more than four options(which would be strange).

The option is independent. Can't remember how it works exactly but the intention is that you should not have clothes in your inventory. Determining that is offloaded to MWA if it's installed as you may have stuff that doesn't fit you. 

Without MWA I believe I tried using GetKeywordItemCount. And I'm not certain it works reliably. 

[Monoman1]

12 hours ago, ttpt said:

Mmm, I got a bug where with the beta versions where I can't toggle any of the setting for the built-in STA functionality. I can toggle it on and off but all the other option remain greyed out, I'm not running the main STA on this save and it's pretty much a brand new game with this SLS version from =the start.

Not sure I understand...

You don't have STA installed and the STA options are greyed out? Sounds.... right. Right?

[Monoman1]

11 hours ago, chuBBies1 said:

One in particular is Sexual fame. I remember using this mod in the past, but how does this mod utilize this system.

It simply adds fame. I believe slaverun has a comments module you can install. Don't think it requires slaverun either?

 

Making dialogue decisions based on variables that are NOT a hard dependency is laborious. You've got to create local variables and mirror/refresh the other mods variables into your mod when needed. 

And then! since the mod is a soft dependency you've got to create a path for people that have the mod installed and for those that don't have the mod installed. Effectively doubling the workload in one go.

 

In this sense SLSF is kind of flawed. At least for mods that don't use it as a hard dep.

[Monoman1]

11 hours ago, mercplatypus said:

I've run into a few situations where it seems to have an impact.  Most notably was when a character that hadn't done a lot of whoring had called out the quartermaster on trying to extort more money for licensing he seemed worried about getting caught.  After whoring he had dialogue along the lines of no one believing a common whore.  There may be a few other areas as well.

That's completely random whether he calls your bluff of not. But it's a good idea. But again the work involved.... ugh.