Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, some person who shoots said:

I didn't even see it in bodyslide when i went to check and build it.
CBBE 3BA
DD5.2 (I have both but this happened in the cursed loot jail so i'm guesstimating DD 5.2)

 

DD NG replaces the DD bodyslide groups, so yes, it does matter. Cursed loot has its own bodyslides, but relies on DD to provide most of the devices.

For DD NG to work you must have both DD 5.2 and DD NG active, with DD NG overwriting (and thus taking priority over) DD 5.2

 

For DCL, make sure you have the 3BA bodyslides from the troubleshooting post installed and built.

Build DD NG's groups in bodyslide. If you're on DD NG 3.7 still, build DD 5.2's bodyslides, and then search 'devices' after clearing all groups and build the last few devices for DD NG. NG didn't have a group in that version.

 

Those particular items should be the "DD - CBBE SE - IronSlaveBoots"

They didn't need a 3BA conversion so the CBBE ones are used for both.

If the DD NG ones are explody, temporarily disable DD NG, build the DD 5.2 boots, then enable DD NG again.

 

 

[Wandering_Mania]

So I've tried installing this several times (with both options, the SE version and the AE version); I'm running Skyrim AE exe version 1.6.1130.0, and it always ends with a 'Not compatible' error.

Is there any way to be able to keep my current version of AE (and not break everything by upgrading to the latest patch), while also getting this to work?

 

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[zarantha]

21 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

So I've tried installing this several times (with both options, the SE version and the AE version); I'm running Skyrim AE exe version 1.6.1130.0, and it always ends with a 'Not compatible' error.

Is there any way to be able to keep my current version of AE (and not break everything by upgrading to the latest patch), while also getting this to work?

 

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

 

Install DD NG over the top of this mod. DD NG has the DLL compatible with all versions.

 

[Wandering_Mania]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

Install DD NG over the top of this mod. DD NG has the DLL compatible with all versions.

Well, I'll give it a shot.

Thanks for the help.

[some person who shoots]

On 3/31/2025 at 12:19 AM, zarantha said:

 

DD NG replaces the DD bodyslide groups, so yes, it does matter. Cursed loot has its own bodyslides, but relies on DD to provide most of the devices.

For DD NG to work you must have both DD 5.2 and DD NG active, with DD NG overwriting (and thus taking priority over) DD 5.2

 

For DCL, make sure you have the 3BA bodyslides from the troubleshooting post installed and built.

Build DD NG's groups in bodyslide. If you're on DD NG 3.7 still, build DD 5.2's bodyslides, and then search 'devices' after clearing all groups and build the last few devices for DD NG. NG didn't have a group in that version.

 

Those particular items should be the "DD - CBBE SE - IronSlaveBoots"

They didn't need a 3BA conversion so the CBBE ones are used for both.

If the DD NG ones are explody, temporarily disable DD NG, build the DD 5.2 boots, then enable DD NG again.

 

 

Ay this worked! tysm!

[Wandering_Mania]

Well, that fix did work  zarantha, I don't get the 'version error' anymore; But now every time I try to load a game, it CTDs every time. I can create a new game just fine, and it works just fine; But the second I try to load a save from that game, or any other save, the damn thing CTDs. And I know it has to be something with one of these, because it's never done that before, and I didn't touch, nor install anything else.

 

So I just may not be able to have this set of great mods. I don't know. It's just confusing the hell outta me.

[CaptainJ03]

19 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Well, that fix did work  zarantha, I don't get the 'version error' anymore; But now every time I try to load a game, it CTDs every time. I can create a new game just fine, and it works just fine; But the second I try to load a save from that game, or any other save, the damn thing CTDs. And I know it has to be something with one of these, because it's never done that before, and I didn't touch, nor install anything else.

If installing DD NG did rid you of a part of your problems, please go over to that thread. NG has a completely different mechanic than plain old DD SE.

In that thread someone just brought up that "Papyrus Tweaks NG" are needed, which aren't in the requirements section yet.

But please, head over in the appropriate thread.

[kupa11]

I tried adding no hiding keyword to armor, so nipple piercing would be visible, but I can't find it in ssedit. Is there some sort of separate download so that I could add it, or something?
I saw that there should be Zad_NoHide but I don't see it.

[Wandering_Mania]

50 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

If installing DD NG did rid you of a part of your problems, please go over to that thread. NG has a completely different mechanic than plain old DD SE.

In that thread someone just brought up that "Papyrus Tweaks NG" are needed, which aren't in the requirements section yet.

But please, head over in the appropriate thread.

Well, it's a bit difficult to "go over to the appropriate thread", when I have no idea what the hell is causing the problem in the first place. Especially if/when there's something missing which I didn't even know I needed.

So cut me some slack, and chill out; 'Saright?

[zarantha]

16 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Well, that fix did work  zarantha, I don't get the 'version error' anymore; But now every time I try to load a game, it CTDs every time. I can create a new game just fine, and it works just fine; But the second I try to load a save from that game, or any other save, the damn thing CTDs. And I know it has to be something with one of these, because it's never done that before, and I didn't touch, nor install anything else.

 

So I just may not be able to have this set of great mods. I don't know. It's just confusing the hell outta me.

 

Make sure you have all the DD NG requirements too.

Make sure you have consoleutils ng installed too. the original consoleutils won't work.

 

If there's still a problem after that, it's best to head over to the DD NG thread.

[Wandering_Mania]

22 minutes ago, zarantha said:

Make sure you have all the DD NG requirements too.

Make sure you have consoleutils ng installed too. the original consoleutils won't work.

Yeah, I finally got it to work.

For some reason, beyond my understanding, the pap tweaks files kept deleting themselves after I installed them. Took me like 3 tries installing, to get them to stay put. But all is good with stability now. 

 

Now I just gotta figure out why the DD 3BA bras don't build correctly with bodyslide. As they always seem to build to some default 'flat chested' mesh; Instead of my 'very busty' slider set. But that, I've asked on the bodyslide page. Anyway, thanks for all the help. It's very much appreciated.

[Radic0le]

This might’ve been asked and answered before, but doing a quick skim I didn’t see anything. Which group of the DD meshes do I use to build for male bodies? I figure it’s not CBBE (duh), but I don’t the it’s 3BA either, and nothing else comes up. I did make sure to select DD for Him in fomod (and I didn’t add DD for beast races). I’m using HIMBO and SOS if that’s important. Any help would be much appreciated!

[zarantha]

7 minutes ago, Radic0le said:

This might’ve been asked and answered before, but doing a quick skim I didn’t see anything. Which group of the DD meshes do I use to build for male bodies? I figure it’s not CBBE (duh), but I don’t the it’s 3BA either, and nothing else comes up. I did make sure to select DD for Him in fomod (and I didn’t add DD for beast races). I’m using HIMBO and SOS if that’s important. Any help would be much appreciated!

 

 

There are no male bodyslides, and no HIMBO conversions. Only the SOS body is supported (so TNG SOS body works too).

For Him is already set to go with pre made meshes for the SOS shape. You don't need to do anything.

[zarantha]

56 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Yeah, I finally got it to work.

For some reason, beyond my understanding, the pap tweaks files kept deleting themselves after I installed them. Took me like 3 tries installing, to get them to stay put. But all is good with stability now. 

 

Now I just gotta figure out why the DD 3BA bras don't build correctly with bodyslide. As they always seem to build to some default 'flat chested' mesh; Instead of my 'very busty' slider set. But that, I've asked on the bodyslide page. Anyway, thanks for all the help. It's very much appreciated.

 

There's a short how to on the troubleshooting post. Likely your bodyslide settings don't have the correct path to the data folder.

[Radic0le]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

There are no male bodyslides, and no HIMBO conversions. Only the SOS body is supported (so TNG SOS body works too).

For Him is already set to go with pre made meshes for the SOS shape. You don't need to do anything.

Ohhh ok I see! Thanks so much!

[Wandering_Mania]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

There's a short how to on the troubleshooting post. Likely your bodyslide settings don't have the correct path to the data folder.

Well, I'm doing everything correctly. And it does have the correct build path to the data folder. But I found the exact issue of what it's doing by looking at that post.

 

Apparently, for some outfits, and the DD3BA files as well; The bodyslide tools are not keeping/transferring the preset slider set to those outfits at all. It is setting them at a 'zeroed sliders', even when my saved preset is selected. And for that, all I can think of, is going through every outfit that doesn't build correctly, and set the sliders to my preset manually. And that's gonna be a pain.

[zarantha]

14 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Well, I'm doing everything correctly. And it does have the correct build path to the data folder. But I found the exact issue of what it's doing by looking at that post.

 

Apparently, for some outfits, and the DD3BA files as well; The bodyslide tools are not keeping/transferring the preset slider set to those outfits at all. It is setting them at a 'zeroed sliders', even when my saved preset is selected. And for that, all I can think of, is going through every outfit that doesn't build correctly, and set the sliders to my preset manually. And that's gonna be a pain.

 

That sounds like that reference shape or the outfit itself is broken. But I don't think any of DD 5.2's bodyslides were still broken that way. If you disable DD NG, do they work again?

[Wandering_Mania]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

If you disable DD NG, do they work again?

Well, if I disable DD NG, nothing works, because I have the 'mid-AE version' of 1.6.1130; Which almost no mod seems to support by default (dll versioning and all that).

I'm using the 'BHUNP 3BBB Advanced V4' body, with a custom setup of sliders for a preset. It works perfectly for the Molodic Reverse Bunnysuit and the 'Captured Dreams Catsuits'; But almost every other outfit that says '3BA' has some major/minor issues with clipping.

 

So what I'm thinking is, that it might be that most outfits might have never been updated to the latest format of the BHUNP 3BA V4. Making them build wrong.

[zarantha]

50 minutes ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Well, if I disable DD NG, nothing works, because I have the 'mid-AE version' of 1.6.1130; Which almost no mod seems to support by default (dll versioning and all that).

I'm using the 'BHUNP 3BBB Advanced V4' body, with a custom setup of sliders for a preset. It works perfectly for the Molodic Reverse Bunnysuit and the 'Captured Dreams Catsuits'; But almost every other outfit that says '3BA' has some major/minor issues with clipping.

 

So what I'm thinking is, that it might be that most outfits might have never been updated to the latest format of the BHUNP 3BA V4. Making them build wrong.

 

Ah, I wasn't clear.

I meant disable DD NG temporarily and look at the problematic bodyslides. If they are working, build them. Then enable DD NG again.

 

But the other problem is that "3BA" is actually a CBBE type body which is not compatible with BHUNP. Anytime you see 3BA without BHUNP, you can safely assume it's not the 3BA you need.

 

Reinstall DD and DD NG, and select the UNP and BHUNP options.

Try this too:

 

[Wandering_Mania]

24 minutes ago, zarantha said:

But the other problem is that "3BA" is actually a CBBE type body which is not compatible with BHUNP. Anytime you see 3BA without BHUNP, you can safely assume it's not the 3BA you need.

Is it just me, or are these acronyms getting way out of hand? How in the hell does anyone expect any of this to be understandable anymore? It's like you need some kind of technical degree just to be able to read the mod requirements. Results of 'heavy handed censorship', I guess.

 

But random 'normal man' commentary aside.

28 minutes ago, zarantha said:

Reinstall DD and DD NG, and select the UNP and BHUNP options.

I'll try those. Maybe I'll actually have a decent looking game for once; And not have clipping issues everywhere, that I just have to force my OCD to ignore.

[someuselessuser]

@zarantha can you add TBD conversion to below other conversions in troubleshooting post     ? I just updated it with stuff from DD NG 0.4.0.

I wanted to update a while ago but I saw DD NG added lots of new things and decided to include those.

 

 

[zarantha]

55 minutes ago, someuselessuser said:

@zarantha can you add TBD conversion to below other conversions in troubleshooting post     ? I just updated it with stuff from DD NG 0.4.0.

I wanted to update a while ago but I saw DD NG added lots of new things and decided to include those.

 

 

 

Done. I thought I had before, sorry.

[Wandering_Mania]

Well, that did the trick. Thank you zarantha. 99% of the clipping issues are now solved. That 1% is from another mod that I need to find the files for. But the DD outfits all seem to now be fitting:

Spoiler

 

 

[Sampon]

hello.
How should this be fixed?

 

 

[Thornagar]

Hi, I have just recently returned to modding this game, and now I have the problem that the anckle chains that connect, are not connecting, I read it has something to do withHDT SMP probably, I currently have that newer version "Faster-HDT-SMP" installed, is that a problem, or does is lie somewhere else?
I also have Devious devices NG