Devious Devices SE

[safado]

3 hours ago, bigdawg657 said:

I keep having a glitch where (regardless of PC gender), male NPCs say 'Come here, woman,' and demand sex. Regardless of what I choose, no animation plays, and I get locked out of normal conversations with the NPC. I can't find a setting to turn it off either.

 

There are a bunch of mods that could have that NPC' response, below are two examples.  Look for mods in your load list about misogyny and rape.

 

babodialogue:

You are so pretty. Come here, woman. I want to see you up close.

 

SLSFFameComments:

Come here, woman. I want to cover you with my seed!

Come here, woman! I'm going to fill that dirty mouth of yours!

Come here, woman! I've got a present for you!

 

 

[Immor]

The prisoner chains / shackles only work right if there is no animation playing when equipping them. If the character is covering herself with her arms for example (SLSF feature), the chains try to connect to the spots where her hands were. After switching location/loading, the arm chains stay in the basic A pose configuration, while the feet work fine. (Seems to be the case with&without DD NG.)

 

Is there a fix for that?

[zarantha]

14 hours ago, Immor said:

The prisoner chains / shackles only work right if there is no animation playing when equipping them. If the character is covering herself with her arms for example (SLSF feature), the chains try to connect to the spots where her hands were. After switching location/loading, the arm chains stay in the basic A pose configuration, while the feet work fine. (Seems to be the case with&without DD NG.)

 

Is there a fix for that?

 

no. prisoner chains don't connect right under the best circumstances, we were only to get it in approximately the right place. it's a bug with smp that they haven't been able to fix and we haven't been able to work around. jumping, loading a new area, or exiting the game and relaunching are all things you can try, but only relaunching the game has had the most reliable results. it's never going to be perfect though.

[sky295]

The prison system that comes with this mod has affected PAMA's prison. Can I turn it off

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, sky295 said:

The prison system that comes with this mod has affected PAMA's prison. Can I turn it off

Oh well, you might want to read the landing page on Pama's Prison Alternative:

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NOT Compatible (don't ask for help if you have any of these installed!)

-Devious Devices and anything that Depends on Devious Devices (The mere presence of DD doesn't seem to cause immediate problems, but stuff will break if you wear DD restraints)

 

and just for the record: DD has no prison system, that's from some other mod, most likely Cursed Loot, which is incompatible to nearly everything else.

 

[Vulkandrache]

Does someone know what to look into if the timer for worn devices does not count down properly?

 

Ive had to disable "Cursed Loot" and most of this mod because every type of equipement would never

become interactable no matter how much time passed.

Many of the items would start and then sit at 0 hours until removal no matter how many hours i spend waiting or playing.

[CaptainJ03]

10 hours ago, Vulkandrache said:

Does someone know what to look into if the timer for worn devices does not count down properly?

Uhmm, you might want to ask in the mod's thread that added this timer? I am not aware of anything like that with plain DDs

(apart from lock shields, but I've neither had problem with those, nor seen the console command to actually print out the time left)

[Vulkandrache]

38 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Uhmm, you might want to ask in the mod's thread that added this timer?

I dont quite understand. Im talking about the timer that stops you repeatedly spaming

things like "struggle" or even just using the keys for unlocking to attempt to get out of devices.

Is that not a baseline function of DD?

 

[CaptainJ03]

5 hours ago, Vulkandrache said:

I dont quite understand. Im talking about the timer that stops you repeatedly spaming things like "struggle" or even just using the keys for unlocking to attempt to get out of devices.
Is that not a baseline function of DD?

Ah, I see, never thought about that as a timer, maybe lost in translation from german to english and back to german.

Assuming that you've kept the default settings, which would be kinky - that's way too long if you want to play proper Skyrim. I always set that on easiest.

And as this sometimes still is too long, you might want to install something like devious helpers, DD escape overhaul (if that exists on SE...) or Devious Lore which allows you to struggle out of devices, regardless of that timer.

[Dendriah]

An error has ocurred in your installation of Devious Devices. IsWearingDevice recieved no argument any idea why this is happening help would be appreciated 

[ruggsy9]

Any other download links? MEGA stops at 1.49 gb .. I wait 6 hours to continue the download. Then Mega resets the whole download again... So far it has been a 4 day endless loop trying to get this mod. thanks

Unless ..is this a pay only mod....?

[jouda1212]

20 hours ago, ruggsy9 said:

Any other download links? MEGA stops at 1.49 gb .. I wait 6 hours to continue the download. Then Mega resets the whole download again... So far it has been a 4 day endless loop trying to get this mod. thanks

Unless ..is this a pay only mod....?

Try to somehow fix probably your computer (some hints: check for free space both on c: (temp folder) and on target disk, try to use private window, try to use clean browser profile without any plugin, disable antivirus, if your Internet connectivity is poor, try to reboot router, wait for night etc.)

 

Maybe check for memory usage in Windows and stop other programs (if I remember, Mega tries to decrypt downloaded content in browser RAM)

 

[safado]

20 hours ago, ruggsy9 said:

Any other download links? MEGA stops at 1.49 gb .. I wait 6 hours to continue the download. Then Mega resets the whole download again... So far it has been a 4 day endless loop trying to get this mod. thanks

Unless ..is this a pay only mod....?

 

Try creating a free mega account, and use the mega-sync\mega-desktop app to download. It will not be limited to browsers issues, it also has resume.

 

 

Edited April 24, 2025 by safado

[zarantha]

On 4/22/2025 at 1:01 AM, Dendriah said:

An error has ocurred in your installation of Devious Devices. IsWearingDevice recieved no argument any idea why this is happening help would be appreciated 

 

There's not much on that error. These are the best two I found.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/page/179/#findComment-3280230

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/page/230/#findComment-3446319

 

[DoubleMinded]

So when I try to start it, it says "DeviousDevices.dll: disabled, incompatible with current version of the game" I don't know why?

[CaptainJ03]

6 hours ago, DoubleMinded said:

So when I try to start it, it says "DeviousDevices.dll: disabled, incompatible with current version of the game" I don't know why?

We don't know either w/o you telling us which game version you're using.

You might consider switching to DD NG

[DoubleMinded]

5 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

We don't know either w/o you telling us which game version you're using.

You might consider switching to DD NG

Well I have the Anniversary Edition

[ruggsy9]

22 hours ago, safado said:

 

Try creating a free mega account, and use the mega-sync\mega-desktop app to download. It will not be limited to browsers issues, it also has resume.

 

 

yes I did that. I'll try again this weekend. All of Kimy's content is GREATTTTT!!

[safado]

53 minutes ago, DoubleMinded said:

Well I have the Anniversary Edition

 

DD-SE 5.2 last compatible game version was SkyrimAE 1.6.640 (steam), (SKSE 2.2.1/2.2.2/2.2.3) or 1.6.659 (GOG).  

 

Yours is? 

 

I bet is SkyimAE 1.6.1170, (Steam) or 1.6.1179 (GOG) the current last versions.   You need to "patch" DD-SE 5.2 by installing DD-NG over it.  It has a replacer DLL with multi-version "adapting" code, plus its new features.  The problem is, you need to comply with it extended requirements and rebuild in bosyslide all NG replacer assets.

 

Edited April 25, 2025 by safado

[safado]

22 minutes ago, ruggsy9 said:

yes I did that. I'll try again this weekend. All of Kimy's content is GREATTTTT!!

 

Maybe your antivirus is removing the file before it get positioned into the target folder?  Just guessing. Check AV log or quarantine. It is a risk but try temporarily excluding in the AV-realtime-scan the folder where MEGA places it syncs files.  Do not know if Mega uses a temp folder.

 

There are some issues with mega desktop, but it generally will tell you with a request to review in the Transfer manager dashboard menu in right-click tray-icon.

 

Try changing Sync\"Issue Resolution mode" to Advanced from "Smart", it is in the Transfer Menu gear wheel icon on the top right side of menu under X (window close).

So it always warns and waits instead of silently "solving it".

 

Edited April 25, 2025 by safado

[DoubleMinded]

2 hours ago, safado said:

 

DD-SE 5.2 last compatible game version was SkyrimAE 1.6.640 (steam), (SKSE 2.2.1/2.2.2/2.2.3) or 1.6.659 (GOG).  

 

Yours is? 

 

I bet is SkyimAE 1.6.1170, (Steam) or 1.6.1179 (GOG) the current last versions.   You need to "patch" DD-SE 5.2 by installing DD-NG over it.  It has a replacer DLL with multi-version "adapting" code, plus its new features.  The problem is, you need to comply with it extended requirements and rebuild in bosyslide all NG replacer assets.

 

All right. I'll do that when I get on my PC. Thanks

[ruggsy9]

8 hours ago, safado said:

 

DD-SE 5.2 last compatible game version was SkyrimAE 1.6.640 (steam), (SKSE 2.2.1/2.2.2/2.2.3) or 1.6.659 (GOG).  

 

Yours is? 

 

I bet is SkyimAE 1.6.1170, (Steam) or 1.6.1179 (GOG) the current last versions.   You need to "patch" DD-SE 5.2 by installing DD-NG over it.  It has a replacer DLL with multi-version "adapting" code, plus its new features.  The problem is, you need to comply with it extended requirements and rebuild in bosyslide all NG replacer assets.

 

I need DD-SE 5.2 for the DD SE NG.  

[Watson152]

Has anyone found issues with the LSAR mod? the outfits dont have skirts and ive tried the only fix I've found on the internet of disabling the under garment settings in DD MCM but no luck

[Ruckey]

I have got into a wierd situation. I can equip any devices to NPCs, however when I tried to equip things like prisoner chains, and wrist shackles on myself, CTD happened. These devices work fine on NPCs, so should not be HDT or dependency issues I guess. Also not every device will cause that CTD, only few of them do. Some other devices with chains can also work, such as black iron shackle though not connected well, so it may not be relative to chains as well. By the way, I am playing male beast character, but with or without BRRF this will happen anyway.

[safado]

On 5/4/2025 at 7:45 PM, Watson152 said:

Has anyone found issues with the LSAR mod? the outfits dont have skirts and ive tried the only fix I've found on the internet of disabling the under garment settings in DD MCM but no luck

 

The 2-nonenal stink is high on this one.  LSAR is a mod from 2012 and last update was 2023 because it has a SKSE DLL (AE updates).  Its creator is japanese and also created ESTRUS, that is a port from his Oblivion version.  He has work on it mods for so long that it didn't matter what newer mod will conflict, his mod has seniority, it is the other mod problem. (my opinion)

 

This is the mod that started the crusade for solutions for underwear clipping, like expanding meshes (loose), or hiding slots\textures.  The other mod following some ideas about "loose" clothes (clipping solution) is Remodel-armor-aio-and-underwear, but it is at the expense of disabling body-morphs by making it fixed CBBE curvy form. DD uses a more complex two asset solutions (inventory part separate from rendered part) to hide visuals while still equipping the slot, driven by scripts and skse-dll.

 

Spoiler

All cloth has underwear meshes embedded using conflicting slots assignment with DD.  It does not need to show for conflict, it is already part of the meshes, if you can't see it is because of tricks hiding the textures and slots (by the SKSE dll). It also has a plug-in to replace the original armors\cloths slot assignment with the mod's replacers formids.  If the plug-in loses the conflict with another similar mod, stuff like the skirt slot54 will not show in game, and slot54 is not used by DD.  The mods dynamic behavior is controlled by a SKSE dll that monitors and effect the meshes slots, the same slot monitored and effected by DD's own SKSE dll.   LSAR has a gimmicky skirt "animation" at mesh level and is not physics or animation driven, it is triggered when falling, that include falling after a jump in place, the skirt with the feature could roll-up, it was such a scandal back in 2012 🙃😁.  Barkeeper was the example, back in the early days. 

 

It is a total conflict issue at different implementation layers. Not compatible. 

Mods from Nexus that do their magic at equipment slot assignments are likely to conflict with DD, unless explicitly stated.

 

Recommend dropping your fetish of dating older mods, get a spanking new mod to date, like a normal loverslab member.  Mods do not have a date limit for consent.   😆

 

 

Here is the DD assignment slots list.

 

Edited May 8, 2025 by safado