Devious Devices SE

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, wren888 said:

I got DD NG from LL, not Discord, and saw no DD SE patch in that version,

 

The DD SE patch is in DD 5.2's install, not DD NG's install. DD SE/AE/VR installs it automatically. It's called "Devious Devices SE patch.esp".
(LL is messing up pictures again for me, hopefully this sorts itself out before you see it)

 

4 hours ago, wren888 said:

This gave me a DD dll error if I did NOT have your consoleUtilSSE NG installed,

 

ConsoleUtilsSSE is required for some things to work in DD (blindfold fog is what i remember offhand). And DD checks for it on loading the save, so you would crash if you didn't have the right version, but not having it at all shouldn't be a problem for just DD SE. I think it might be a hard requirement for DD NG. It would call out DD in the crash log, but it wouldn't prevent you from launching the game to the main menu.

 

But yeah, if you're just coming over from LE, it's best to start from a small basic install and slowly add things in. It will be much easier to figure out the problems with only one or a handful of new mods at a time.

[wren888]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

The DD SE patch is in DD 5.2's install, not DD NG's install. DD SE/AE/VR installs it automatically. It's called "Devious Devices SE patch.esp".

 

ConsoleUtilsSSE is required for some things to work in DD (blindfold fog is what i remember offhand). And DD checks for it on loading the save, so you would crash if you didn't have the right version, but not having it at all shouldn't be a problem for just DD SE. I think it might be a hard requirement for DD NG. It would call out DD in the crash log, but it wouldn't prevent you from launching the game to the main menu.

 

But yeah, if you're just coming over from LE, it's best to start from a small basic install and slowly add things in. It will be much easier to figure out the problems with only one or a handful of new mods at a time.

Oh. I misunderstood. Thank you for taking time to explain it again.

 

I went back to an early save with DD SE/AE/VR v5.2 and DD NG v3.7 installed, their prerequisites, and some inconsequential mods. I ran the game with those two loaded, with them loaded but removing Devious Devices SE patch.esp, both with and without ConsoleUtilSSE. In every case, the game loaded. I added a hobble dress to my character's inventory and put it on her. In every case, something happened I don't remember ever seeing before. My character's body turned to a faint black mist. Her head was unchanged.

 

Do you know what's going on? Do you know what I need to do to fix it?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, wren888 said:

Oh. I misunderstood. Thank you for taking time to explain it again.

 

I went back to an early save with DD SE/AE/VR v5.2 and DD NG v3.7 installed, their prerequisites, and some inconsequential mods. I ran the game with those two loaded, with them loaded but removing Devious Devices SE patch.esp, both with and without ConsoleUtilSSE. In every case, the game loaded. I added a hobble dress to my character's inventory and put it on her. In every case, something happened I don't remember ever seeing before. My character's body turned to a faint black mist. Her head was unchanged.

 

Do you know what's going on? Do you know what I need to do to fix it?

 

Either the bodyslides haven't been built correctly, or you have something worn that is causing the device hider to hide everything. With DD NG, the way to disable device hider is to set everything to none for both devices underneath sections. If that doesn't make it show up, then odds are it's something with the bodyslides. Make sure your path is set right in the bodyslide settings (it should point to data) then batch build again. As a quick test, build just that one outfit - with a single outfit bodyslide will tell you the path it's going to. Examples of checking bodyslide are also on the troubleshooting post.

[wren888]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Either the bodyslides haven't been built correctly, or you have something worn that is causing the device hider to hide everything. With DD NG, the way to disable device hider is to set everything to none for both devices underneath sections. If that doesn't make it show up, then odds are it's something with the bodyslides. Make sure your path is set right in the bodyslide settings (it should point to data) then batch build again. As a quick test, build just that one outfit - with a single outfit bodyslide will tell you the path it's going to. Examples of checking bodyslide are also on the troubleshooting post.

Of course. The bodyslides. I forgot to run BodySlide. I didn't know about disabling the device hider, though. In all likelihood, you saved me hours of struggling.

 

So I ran BodySlide with all zeroes for all attributes on both sides of the main field to disable the device hider. Then I ran BodySlide with the leather hobble dress. I loaded the game and added one to my character's inventory. I had her put just that on. It showed up. No black mist. Wonderful. Thank you, zarantha. I am most appreciative for your help.

 

I looked to see what I had activated of the three mods DD SE/AV/VR v5.2, DD NG 3.7, and ConsoleUtilSSE. They're all activated, but with the Devious Devices patch SE.esp turned off in the right pane of MO2 as you advised. I still don't understand exactly what's going on with those three mods, but they're working, so I'm afraid to touch them. I'll be careful to leave them the way they are.

 

On a side note, I created a "Bodyslide output" folder the way the S.T.E.P instructions say and pointed BodySlide to put everything there instead of the game's data file. It did. Which was nice, because all the time I played LE, I was confused about where everything went. I'm not so good at this kind of thing sometimes. Obviously.

 

Thanks again, zarantha, for being so kind as to help me.

 

All the best to you and everyone who reads this.

Edited February 1, 2025 by wren888

[lkyouka]

how do I get the petsuit crawl animation to work? When i equip the suit my character just continues ro walk and stand

 

[zarantha]

22 hours ago, lkyouka said:

how do I get the petsuit crawl animation to work? When i equip the suit my character just continues ro walk and stand

 

 

Did you run whichever animation tool you have installed after installing DD? FNIS or Pandora? (Nemesis is hit or miss on if it works, and if you use it make sure you have DD NG installed over DD as well.)

 

If you have DD NG already, you'll need to move over to that thread.

[Mysfle]

For some reason the devious devices don't break with Breakable Equipment. Is there some way to allow other mods to detect the armour devious devices adds?

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Mysfle said:

For some reason the devious devices don't break with Breakable Equipment. Is there some way to allow other mods to detect the armour devious devices adds?

 

No. Doing so would likely break how devices are supposed to function and you would end up with broken devices that aren't visible, or can't be removed. The most I'd recommend is getting Unforgiving Devices, which has it's own degrade mechanic for the locks (not the devices) as part of the escape minigame.

[George123456789@@]

I cant get the furniture to work. My character goes up and locks themselves in but then the piece of furniture disappears and my charater stands normally. Another  NPC comes over and does the same thing. I ve checked and I have eveythng I should need. Im wearing some of the devious clothing so im hoping thats not the cause. Also I attached a log that I think might help 

 

Also is their a way to remove the devious clothing through a command

 

Edited February 10, 2025 by George123456789@@
added info

[zzaacc]

I use BHUNP and download the bodyslide, but find the BHUNP hobble dress is strange. Is that means i should try to fix it myself in bodyslide or the file I download has some mistake?

[zarantha]

21 hours ago, George123456789@@ said:

I cant get the furniture to work. My character goes up and locks themselves in but then the piece of furniture disappears and my charater stands normally. Another  NPC comes over and does the same thing. I ve checked and I have eveythng I should need. Im wearing some of the devious clothing so im hoping thats not the cause. Also I attached a log that I think might help 

 

Also is their a way to remove the devious clothing through a command

 

 

 

A screenshot of a log is worse than useless. None of those errors are related to DD. Attach the file itself just like you did the screenshot.

 

What do you mean by devious clothing? Devices from this mod? or some other mod?

Are you sure the furniture is from DD and not ZAZ?

What 'clothing' exactly and what furniture exactly? We need the names.

 

You cannot remove devices with a single console command because of the way devices work. Remove it properly in game by struggling or using a key, or use some other mod to remove the device like DD Equip or Unforgiving Devices.  If you must remove it by console, there's two devices you need to remove, it's easiest to stick everything in a container aside from the device you're wearing, then list your inventory and remove the item. If you don't know what you're doing in the console, I'm not going to walk you through it, it's a good way to break the device permanently if you do it wrong. 

 

Do you use DD NG? If so, you're in the wrong place.

[zarantha]

15 hours ago, zzaacc said:

I use BHUNP and download the bodyslide, but find the BHUNP hobble dress is strange. Is that means i should try to fix it myself in bodyslide or the file I download has some mistake?

 

BHUNP isn't included in base DD 5.2 it's just UNP. Ask wherever you got the BHUNP conversion from, they aren't supported here.

But looking at it, it looks like it needs adjustment in outfit studio - possibly some new sliders for the body/preset that aren't in the original DD BHUNP conversion.

[Slickbutter]

Does the current Devious Devices work? When I try to run SKSE, it says it's incompatible with the current version

DeviousDevices.dll

[zarantha]

34 minutes ago, Slickbutter said:

Does the current Devious Devices work? When I try to run SKSE, it says it's incompatible with the current version

DeviousDevices.dll

 

Easiest way to fix is to install DD NG on top of DD. 

If you don't want to do that, there are updated DLLs on the troubleshooting post, but they are just old versions of the DD NG DLL.

[Slickbutter]

Ah, so DD NG is required? Okay then.
That seems to have worked, though now I gotta go to the SoS forum because for some reason now that has a problem

[lacie_]

47 minutes ago, Slickbutter said:

Ah, so DD NG is required? Okay then.
That seems to have worked, though now I gotta go to the SoS forum because for some reason now that has a problem

 

It's not required but if you have no issues using it then it's preferable for the improvements it has.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Slickbutter said:

Ah, so DD NG is required? Okay then.
That seems to have worked, though now I gotta go to the SoS forum because for some reason now that has a problem

 

NG is not required, but has a ton of improvements for DD due to modding advances in SE. So it is highly recommended even if you aren't on 1130/1170. It's also the simplest solution for the outdated DLL for those versions.

 

For SOS, make sure you get the AE DLL with the plugin order fix, otherwise it will make you CTD when you change your load order. Or switch to TNG (the new gentleman).
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/208074-schlongs-of-skyrim-dll-for-ae//

 

[zzaacc]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

BHUNP isn't included in base DD 5.2 it's just UNP. Ask wherever you got the BHUNP conversion from, they aren't supported here.

But looking at it, it looks like it needs adjustment in outfit studio - possibly some new sliders for the body/preset that aren't in the original DD BHUNP conversion.

I got  BHUNP conversion from https://babofactory.blogspot.com/2020/05/bhunp-dda-ddx-ddi-se.html.

Sorry for ask question that not support in base mod and thanks for explain,  I just want to find out what happened.

It botheres little and I would just ignore it.

[zarantha]

7 minutes ago, zzaacc said:

I got  BHUNP conversion from https://babofactory.blogspot.com/2020/05/bhunp-dda-ddx-ddi-se.html.

Sorry for ask question that not support in base mod and thanks for explain,  I just want to find out what happened.

It botheres little and I would just ignore it.

 

Yeah, I remember the link but looking at it again, it's from 2020. BHUNP has probably updated since then and sliders added or changed. so the conversion would need to be updated, and that's done through outfit studio not bodyslide.

 

Tutorials on converting outfits also cover how to fix clipping like what you have if you want to try it yourself. SunJeong's youtube tutorials seemed good the one time I looked them up for someone else. Basically add the new bhunp reference merging in sliders, fix the clipping, make sure weighting hasn't changed, then save. After that you can rebuild it in bodyslide. It's not hard once you get used to it, but it is tedious.

[kupa11]

Is there a way to make only one piece of armor have visible devices under it? Removing it from mcm makes it visible on every other armor. 

[chaimhewast]

3 hours ago, kupa11 said:

Is there a way to make only one piece of armor have visible devices under it? Removing it from mcm makes it visible on every other armor. 

Give the armor the "Zad_NoHide" keyword.

[kupa11]

19 minutes ago, chaimhewast said:

Give the armor the "Zad_NoHide" keyword.

in ssedit?

[Vanilys]

Hi

I have an issue with Devious Devices

My Skyrim is 1.6.1170.
I use Vortex.

After having started a new game, saved, then reloaded, I got the following error message:

"An error has occured with your installation of Devious Devices
Please check the log for more information.
Error test :
DDNG : 'Devious Devices SE Patch' ESP is active.
This ESP is no longer required and will cause issues.
Disable the ESP ins your loadorder or remove it."


I then deactivated the ESP file ("Devious Devices SE patch.esp")
But after reloading the last saved game, I immediately get this error:

$SaveGameMissingUnidentifiedContent
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
$SaveGameMissingUnidentifiedSearch


What do I have to do ?
Restarting a new game?
Unstalling a mod?
Something else?


For your information, I installed those mods:

Devious Devices SE 5.2
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5878-devious-devices-se/

Devious Devices NG 0.3.7
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/29779-devious-devices-ng/

Devious Devices - Equip (AE) 6.12.3
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/28553-devious-devices-equip-ae/


Load order :

#60 : Devious Devices - Equip (AE) 6.12.3

#63 :Devious Devices SE 5.2
#64 :Devious Devices NG 0.3.7
 

Edited February 15, 2025 by Vanilys

[chaimhewast]

2 hours ago, Vanilys said:

What do I have to do ?

Start a new game, and any questions for DD NG should be in that thread instead of the SE thread.

[bonesieboy]

ok kinda at my wits end here so i have a problem with some of the butt plug vibrations lasting 15,20,30 and even 45 rl mins. is there any way for me to sorta bring that into a reasonable range.